ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

Nyk is still in Saul Saltzman "indignant SJW professor" mode, let's enjoy it while it lasts. Next thing you know he'll break a nail and he'll switch right back to "gurl" and "uwu" mode:

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But you are at brunch, Nyk:

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Nyk woke up this morning and forgot to take his medicine:

I woke up this morning with a sense of dread that I can't shake. So I'm gonna put my doom spiral out there in hopes you all can convince me I'm just paranoid. Here it is, how Trump could still "win," a thread:

Wow, Nyk's side won and he's still paranoid? This, ladies and gentlemen, is malignant pathological narcissism clouding the mind of a narcissist. Narcissists are "winner takes it all" types and nothing is ever good enough for them. Dude, you fucking know Trump's lolsuit doesn't stand a chance at SCOTUS. Three judges have a known personal grudge against Kamala Harris and Joe Biden but if they rule in favour of Trump just to get back at Biden/Harris, no one will trust SCOTUS ever again, so SCOTUS will never do anything that makes them look like they are pursuing personal vendettas. Nyk, you have a boyfriend who's a wannabe lawyer and a brother who's an actual lawyer, can't one of them explain this to you?

The basic worry is outlined in this Van Jones video from October, which considers the possibility of a "constitutional coup against majority rule."

Again, will never happen because SCOTUS' perception with the public is more important than allowing three SCOTUS judges with a personal grudge to go after Biden/Harris by validating Trump's lolsuit.

Here's how it could happen:
1. Trump continues what he's already begun: he files dozens of lawsuits alleging fraud, insists he's the real winner of the election, and uses every available medium to propagate the idea that the election was stolen.

He can do that but again: SCOTUS' own legitimacy comes first and those justices, even those three that would love to get back at Biden/Harris, know that.

Now so far Republicans and even Fox News are resisting this, and Dems and leftists are laughing at it like it's pitiful and impotent. But Trump is not going to give this up. Not soon, not ever. What if Trump's base, his still-mobilized campaign continues to stand by him?

"What if Trump's base, his still-mobilized campaign continues to stand by him?", this isn't even a what-if. Obama's groupies never relented either.

I think they will stand by him. It doesn't matter there's no real evidence of fraud. It's classic Hitlerian strategy, "the Big Lie." He lies with such conviction & perseverance that people believe there must be something to it. Specious "evidence" is invented faster than debunked

"It doesn't matter there's no real evidence of fraud", there's no evidence of you being a woman either, but you too expect everyone to go along with your Big Lie, hypocrite. You claiming to "feel feminine" and defining that as "being desired" as a basis for claiming womanhood is the very definition of 'specious evidence'. You yourself are the very embodiment of that lying deceiving mass media that no one trusts anymore.

So we have ~70 million people standing behind Trump, "the LEGAL winner of the LEGAL votes," in defiance of "the FakeNews media" and "the lying communist Dems who stole the election."

Again, how did 4 years of deplatforming, demonizing, ostracizing and blacklisting "cis normies" work out for you, SJW influencer? And yes, the MSM are the fake news media who propped you up. Those same media actively assisted YOU with putting out a fake narrative about who you are, when you got on Youtube, what your content was really about, who was behind your channel.

Republicans soon realize that they're nothing without Trump. There is no turning back. And one by one they fall into line and accept the invented reality that Trump is the true winner. Conservative media joins them, endlessly broadcasting updates about the Election Fraud.

"Republicans soon realize that they're nothing without Trump" ROTFLMAO. The entire military industrial complex in the US is run by powerful influential moneyed Republicans but I guess Nyk was too busy jacking off to Natalie Mars t-porn to notice who's really running this country.

Now here's the part I'm uncertain about: The worry is that somehow, the Republicans are able to deny Biden a majority of electoral votes. Maybe by somehow replacing the state-certified electors with alternative electors.

Again, will never happen, see what I wrote above about three SCOTUS judges having a personal grudge and the validity of SCOTUS being more important than those three judges appearing to take revenge against Biden/Harris by ruling in favour of Trump.

Maybe Trump encourages faithless electors. Maybe he's somehow able to sow enough chaos that for whatever reason, come December there simply is no majority electoral vote.

"Maybe he's somehow able to sow enough chaos", well, tell your fellow Tabbys to stop rioting hon. But no, you only want to contribute to the chaos, not help decrease it. BTW, is "faithless" some kind of SJW speak for "neutral/impartial"?

In that case, the election is decided by the House of Representatives, which has no obligation to defer to the popular vote. The popular election simply does not matter. Worse, it's vote by delegation. Each state gets a vote. And there are more red states than blue.

Centrist and conservative Youtubers and Bitchuters already explained this weeks ago, but Nyk needs to plagiarize their content for his audience who are too dumb to understand it.

So the red states appoint Trump, and he's sworn into office for another four years. And that's one way to do a coup.

This is not a coup. You have never experienced a real coup or you would've already packed our bags and exited the country on a one-way private plane flight to the UK to move in with Oliver. Millionaires like you do not stick around long enough to experience a real coup.

How can we stop this? Can we trust the Republicans to fight it? Nancy Pelosi? The Democrats?

"How can we stop this", a narcissist's megalomania. You can't stop a lolsuit just because you don't like it. You have to let the legal process take its course. Ask your boyfriend the wouldbe lawyer to explain this to you.

Obviously there would be massive protests if it happened. But would that stop him? There would be riots, which Trump would use as pretext to deploy military police. Maybe even private militias, who knows! LAW AND ORDER!! DEFEND THE ELECTION!!!

"There would be riots", there already are riots, which is why you yourself ALLEGEDLY bugged out Baltimore to go to VA to be with Niki. Not that you of all people truly fear "private militias", since you can just ask your trannie chaser fans at the John Brown Gun Club for "help".

70% of political discourse on here is a proxy for personality clashes and interpersonal drama, and the sooner you realize that the sooner you can get back to turning the Western Male into catgirls

What, you mean the way you targeted Blaire White for years supposedly because she was a Republican transwoman, when the reason for your enduring hate-boner is the fact that HSTSs just don't want to fuck AGPs like you?
 
Lol "Conservative media joins them"

Fox wouldn't even call Florida for Trump when the votes were being counted.

People like Trump. And Trump is contesting the results. He's going to lose and that's going to be the end of that. Nyk is losing his mind over nothing.

Again, it's absurd to watch these people sperg about how right-wingers "may" and "might" rise up to commit violence after three months of sustained arson and looting in Portland by Antifa.
 
Nyk is still in Saul Saltzman "indignant SJW professor" mode, let's enjoy it while it lasts.

I've actually watched the video with Saul Saltzman again because you posted it here and you're spot on with the comparison. Like all troons Nyk loses his mask when he's distressed. Pretending to be a female all the time must put a lot of pressure on the prefrontal cortex and under stress they can't but go back to their male self.

Nyk alwasys tried to potray himself in his videos as this self-assured and intelligent person who is above everything ("Uwu, I don't care about the hate I get!"). On Twitter we always got a much better picture of what Nyk actually is and what he cares about: money, validation of his narcissistic personality disorder and troon rights. All of these things are of course correlated: he earns his money by making troon content, his simps validate constantly his troon identity ("Nathalie, I'm so jealous! I'm a cis woman and I'd die for being as beautiful as you!"). Trump will now go away and of course Nyk can't accept this: Who can he blame then for taking aways his troon rights all the time? He can't do it with Biden, because he's lesser of two evils and Contra can't suddenly claim that Biden is a fascist as well.

In my opinion Nyk's view and "activism" will from now on more or less be aligned with the mainstream narrative of the news. I make a prognosis and guess that the timeline of 2012-2024/2028 will look like this:

- Trump is an idiot and will never become a president. (Remember: Pre-troon Nyk admitted that he kinda liked Trump in the first debate)
- Trump won! The world will end! He will kill all the brown, black, gay and trans people!
- Ok, he didn't do this. But he's still corrupt and a facist!
- We have to get Trump out of the White House. Lefties, we know you don't want to vote for Biden, but he's the lesser of two evils. After the election you can put pressure on Biden!
- Biden won! But oh no, Trump is trying to deny Biden's victory and will bring forth a facist state! (This is the phase we're currently in. The media is all the time talking about Trump's possible coup d'état and Nyk's paranoia is also based on this irrational fear)

Now my prognosis:

- Biden will be inaugurated and Trump will go back golfing. The media will of course learn nothing and just spin a new narrative.
- Biden is president. But oh no, don't ever think that the facist threat is over! Don't forget, facists and white supremacists are everywhere. Remember how lefties were told that they can start criticizing Biden/Harris after the election? Well, the time won't ever come. People will now tell lefties that criticizing Biden is nothing more than empowering facists and white supremacists on the right. This is already happening, for example some former Warren supporters said already something like "Shut up about Biden! We can't criticize him now, otherwise the facists will win!". I guess Nyk will do something similiar with his YouTube career. I assume that his content next year will be mostly about brown scare.

- 2024 is here and it's time for another exhausting election. I don't think that Trump will run again, but somebody else. Now something similiar to Bush will probably happen: Suddenly Trump ain't so bad after all, but the new Republican candidate, well he/she is really a FASCIST! Believe us, we are the media! When did we ever lie to you? I also expect that Nyk will take a similiar stance, if he didn't die of alcoholism already. He will talk much more nicer about Trump now and suddenly so-called "dogwhistles" of the right will now also be okay for the left ("Trump actually never did something against troons!" "Trump was actually more pro LGBT than Biden!"). In 2024 the media and Nyk must downplay Trump in order to make the next republican candidate appear worse than he is. When Trump was literally Hitler and almost 50% of all voters still voted for him, you can't just claim that the new republican candidate is as bad as Trump. You have to retract the Hitler statements about Trump and must apply them now to the new candidate the same way they did when they compared Trump to Bush.

Now, this is only my prognosis and I could be totally wrong. I can't even be sure if Biden will be able to serve for four years, but we'll see.

Too long too read: Nyk will, after his paranoia phase, abandon any notion of radicalism and become a typical mainstream media troon whore.
 
Trump will now go away and of course Nyk can't accept this: Who can he blame then for taking aways his troon rights all the time? He can't do it with Biden, because he's lesser of two evils and Contra can't suddenly claim that Biden is a fascist as well.
He'll go back to blaming all the people who don't accept troon orthodoxy fully into their hearts as to why troons face harship. Maybe he'll attribute it to a residual Trump affect in society, either way, since MAGA is here to stay, so will TDS. 'White Nationalism' will just become the Left's version of 'Radical Islam' from the 2000s.

Some of the global minded SJWs can direct their crusade elsewhere temporarily as well. I expect to see breadtuber videos on Bolsinaro, Duartate, Modi, Ourban and Erdogan, and maybe even Putin (not Xi though, hes a "comrade"). You might have pushes to get the UK to renounce Brexit and carry out another refrendum.

The post Trump era will last longer than Trump's presidential tenure. And whoever the Republican nominee in 2024 is, they're just going to say that their candidate is a facist with the spectre of Trump looming behind them.

Nyk's view and "activism" will from now on more or less be aligned with the mainstream narrative of the news
For the most part, particularly in relation to cultural issues, the mainstream narrative will be aligned with Nyk's views.

Sex denialism and gender expansionism can be pushed by the msm as a means to 'combat hate,' but will just serve to enable the Yanivs of the world by telling ppl that their lack of acceptance is the real biggotry. Race grifters who push critical race theory will use similar tactics.

The Anti Free Speech movement could latch onto both ideologies and use them as examples as to why speech must be regulated to combat hate, and to prevent another Trump from ever being elected again.

Biden is president. But oh no, don't ever think that the facist threat is over! Don't forget, facists and white supremacists are everywhere. Remember how lefties were told that they can start criticizing Biden/Harris after the election? Well, the time won't ever come. People will now tell lefties that criticizing Biden is nothing more than empowering facists and white supremacists on the right.
The most i see Contra throwing at Biden is the title of "diet fascist," or "facist lite," and he might try and demonstrate the purported link between facist enabling and liberalism.

That being said, he cant go full "liberals get the bullet too," because then he'll look like the Troon who cried wolf with Biden. And I suspect based on its sheer size alone, that Nyk's audience has the most ideological diversity out of all Breadtube fandoms, so he might not want to upset his moderate and centre-left paypigs.
He will talk much more nicer about Trump now and suddenly so-called "dogwhistles" of the right will now also be okay for the left
The truth is that dogwhistles have always been kosher for the left, look at all the little easter eggs they include about deplatforming, milkshaking, doxing, 'peaceful protesting,' rounding up landlords and buisness owners, forced redistribution, re-education, the obsession with radicalization, propoganda/agitprop and so many more examples.

Hell, if the Alt Right figures said the word 'ethnostate,' as many times as the Breadfags say 'revolution,' you'd still see compilation clips of them being run on the msm to this day.

Nyk will, after his paranoia phase, abandon any notion of radicalism and become a typical mainstream media troon whore.
He never truly understood or cared about the socioeconomic arguments of the populist maga movement, that's why he could never offer any of their perspectives in his videos apart from deriding them as strawmen.

He might be upheld as the incel whisperer because of his years as a sex deprived young man, but the same can't be said about his ability to push MAGA ppl left.

I expect to see him continue to push the far lefts views on troons as some kind of mainstream consensus. He is the embodiment of external validation, and can only feel comfortable if everyone else accepts his grift into their hearts, and now he has a merry band of followers to help him achieve this.
 
3) All autogynephiles start as crossdressers, so this isn't unusual as well. Nyk started his Contrapoints shtick with crossdressing and his fans, of course, loved it. The modern woke left, however, doesn't think that gender nonconforming man can exist, so they pushed the idea of "Nyk is actually trans!" very early on.
I meant to respond to this earlier post but I only got around to it now, so here we go.

What I wanted to say in response to this is that you must remember that Nyk actually cross-dressed on Youtube before the ContraPoints channel. Nyk registered the ContraPoints account in 2011. He was already flaunting his femininity back when he was still Nykytyne2. If you look up the Nykytyne2 account archive, you can see that his old Nykytyne2 avatar was a picture of Nyk in a women's dress. This was the still from a Nykytyne2 video titled How To Not Be A Rapist where Nyk was playing a female role in the video.

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LMAO, notice the comment on the right where Nyk responds to CopperCab saying: "YES YOU'RE BACK! CopperCab I love you are my hero!!!!!". I wish they would go a collab in the present. CopperCab, if you're a KF regular like the rest of your Youtuber colleagues, please consider this.

Here is the thumbnail for the How To Not Be A Rapist video that became the Nykytyne2 avatar:

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So the public cross-dressing predates the ContraPoints channel.
5) It's normal for autogynephiles to become "less straight" when they transition. So it wouldn't surprise me if Nyk suddenly would take a cock up his ass (or after the snip in his wound). It's suspicious, however, that Nyk's hot nights with the boys are just all hear-say. Let's look at the potential affairs Nyk might have had:

Ollie (Maybe?)

Oliver is an almost certain maybe at this point. I don't know if you were already reading KF at the time that Oliver came out with his Queer video, if you haven't read those posts definitely go back and check them out. Oliver all but openly admitted that, when Nyk deleted his Twitter account and went on a vacation, Oliver himself was the one Nyk went on a vacation with. When people began to openly question whether Oliver was dating Nyk, he posted a written statement on Twitter complaining about how he "Had my private life speculated on", and it was like, bitch, you all but openly admitted that when Nyk was on vacation a month ago you were there with him. Of course Oliver was fucking around with Nyk, he's just too (hahaha, but it's in place here) transphobic to openly admit it (cos if you're fucking trannies at least have the balls to be honest about it, just admit it). He was the lover that Nyk was talking about in the Gender Critical video who wouldn't hold Nyk's hand in public. Later Oliver tweeted out (in response to NB zombies askin him to cancel Nyk for the Buck Angel thing): "I love her very much", I am sure that was just platonic mr. Lennard. I still wonder whether Oliver cheated on his cis girlfriend (the one that supposedly hit him) with Nyk.

It's like Nyk and Oliver really enjoyed feeding into these rumours that they are a couple... but if you are a trans activist, like Oliver pretends he is, why not just come out and say: "Hell yeah, I fuck trannies, and I fucked this here trannie that everyone thinks is the best thing since sliced bread. I am a confirmed trannie fucker fucker of trannies and a trans activist. I am a British cis man and I fuck American trannies barebacking on PrEP to demonstrate to the British that they don't have to be so TERFy. There is nothing to be scared of or worried about.". The only reason Olver would refuse to come out and openly admit whether he actually had a relationship with Nyk is his own homophobia. If Oliver can openly admit to having a cis girlfriend on a Livestream with Nyk, why not openly admit to having a trans girlfriend in Nyk? If he's such a trans activist, there should logically be no difference between the two, the two relationships, trans and cis, should be equal in worth and value. Why obfuscate, if not because of internalized homophobia? And yes, I instantly thought of Oliver when I heard Nyk talk on that one Livestream about cis men who keep trannies as their dirty little secret.

And how many gullible females has Nyk fucked in this time? Definitely more than men I bet. This is of course also typical for an autogynephile: They like male approval ("They look at me! I pass!"), but still have male sexuality ("Uwu we are best friends and do girly stuff! Now put your pants off and show me your fronthole!")

I always go back to the fact that no one has ever come out and admitted fuqing Nyk, pre or after HRT. It's Nyk himself who is claiming to have all this crazy sex with all these people, but these claims are never independently confirmed. Not even Theryn or Oliver, whom everyone assumes are having sex with Nyk, did ever confirm having sex with Nyk as a transwoman. I will highlight again Nyk doing that Livestream a while back where he said that cis men who fuq trannies should come out and say it and be out loud and proud about it instead of "treating us as their dirty little secret". (BTW, Nyk, did you fuq Theryn or are you treating her as your "dirty little secret"? If you want other to be out, loud and proud about fuqing trannies why not just come out and say it yourself, you hypocrite?). I very strongly suspect that the reason Nyk made this statement is because the cis men who have fuqed Nyk have ever came out and been out, loud and proud about it. Nyk did a whole video insisting that we need to stop telling these dudes they're gay for fuqing trannies, reinforcing the idea that he is driven by internalized homophobia. Because if we only enable their internalized homophobia ("I am not homo, I'm a tranniefucker, fucker of trannies"), these dudes will surely be more forthcoming about fuqing trannies. Or so Nyk would have you believe.

That said, I think people underestimate the sheer amount of sexual interest there is in Nyk. I know Positron here on KF thinks that Nyk is lying about having 2500 pantysniffers on Tinder, but I personally believe it's true and that Nyk does have countless of chasers. Most people like Nyk because they see him as a postergirl of the left and they just want to fuck him. And his troon fans would reinterpret the fact that he was streaming trannie porn and lesbian smut on BlogTV as evidence of his being an egg all these years. Another thing: Nyk said in one of the Livestreams that there are deepfakes of him on the porn sites. He said that he has seen these deepfakes and didn't seem to mind about them. There is also a deepfake animator on Twitter who has been tweeting his deepfakes at Nyk. The links to these deepfakes of Nyk on Twitter were posted here on KF, if you insisting on seeing them. Nyk even pressed like on one of those.


Nyk being homosexual is just too unlikely for me. It's also very rare that homosexual transexuals would transition as late as Nyk did.

Let me explain the context in which I and I would imagine others here on KF speculated about Nyk being gay and using his trans-LARP as an excuse to come out and have sex with men:

After bragging about being "soft for months" due to his HRT, the first time Nick tweeted about having sex again as a transwoman was him bragging about all the anal sex he was having with his Tinder dates. The guy was clearly waiting to burst out of the closet all these years and find an excuse to have anal sex with men. He also says on Twitter that he discovered he enjoyed being the passive partner or bottom in anal sex as a result of being trans, but that's bullshit because he already said he liked pegging (anal sex with a strap-on) back when he was a self-declared "pretty much straight" man. So his claim that he discovered his liking of anal sex as a result of being trans is a lie. He already liked anal sex before, he just didn't have the nerve to have anal sex with men so he was asking women to "top" him back then.

So, here you have a guy, who openly said on his Livestream that he was asking women to give him anal sex with a strap on, who admitted he was disgusted at the idea of having penetrative sex with women (like you would expect from a gay man)... who now pretends to have discovered anal sex with men as a result of being trans.

So my attitude at the time was, OK, you are gay but you don't have to pretend to be trans to justify wanting to have anal sex with men. It's OK if you don't want to have sex with vagina and prefer to have anal sex with men. You don't have to invent stories to justify wanting to have gay sex.

Nyk was already into anal sex and anal penetration back in the day. Everyone who was around back then still remembers Nyk getting drunk and trying to fuck a bottle on a Livestream once. Even his friend Dick Coughlan mentioned it during that Livestream that Nyk has now deleted. Everyone knew Nyk was into his ass back then. Nyk even made fun of his anal fixation in one of this rsponse videos to Armoured Skeptic:

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Now he goes on Twitter and pretends that he discovered his love of anal sex only as a result of being trans and going on dates with his Tinder chasers and being their bottomy/subby girl. Those of us who have seen Nyk on BlogTv know better. Nyk was always into anal sex. It's hysterical that he now pretends otherwise.

That said, I don't think Nyk is a self-loathing homophobe, I agree that he's a textbook example of AGP and that his sexual escapades with men were more about validation and passing rather than being genuinely interested in men. I do think there is a lot of denied homophobia on his part, and his resentment at Shane and Jeffree was the confirmation for me. Nyk's homophobia stems from the fact he envies famous succesful gay men, because he recognized that their homosexuality gave them an edge and streetcred that he as an upper-middle class straight white boy just doesn't have and can never hope to have. This envy of gay men goes back to Nyk's admiration of the books David Sedaris and Quentin Crisp - Nyk was literally reading Quentin Crisp on his way to VidCon2017, a month before he trooned out on darknet HRT. A gay man can fuck a man as a man, which Nyk cannot bring himself to do, so he envies homos for being able to do the one thing he secretly desired all this time but could not bring himself to do.

2:29 - 2:46

And there it is.

So the best thing about being a Youtube millionaire is brunch?

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"Good is: the bills are paid. That's really the best part, honestly. When you have neither money nor fame - which most of my life, I had neither - I wanted to have both. And now I realize, only money is worth having. Fame is garbage. I organized my life all wrong. I should've only thought about money and not thought about fame. Because I love, like, I love, like, something breaks, oh, just hire an electrician to fix it. Like, you don't think about how much it costs. That is an immense, like, unburdening of anxiety. However, fame, on the other hand, is the introduction of a lot of new anxiety."

I appreciate his honesty, that he readily admits that he really is a vapid shopaholic with no life and no purpose other than wanting to be rich, but whoa the motherfucker, what a pampered unworthy ungrateful piece of shit.

BTW, this is not what he originally said about becoming a Youtuber. He originally said (in one of the Pokemon Gamestreams that has since been taken down) that he did it because he always wanted to be an artist but didn't feel like he had enough talent to pull it off. It's very telling that he started out with this hipster posturing, "oh, I am such an artistuh", only to end up admitting: "Yeah, I lied about being an artistuh, I am just plain greedy, it was just about paying the bills and living the life all along."
 
Did any of you watch Nyk's interview at The Stoa?
That round-robin Q&A format was a bit like watching Natalie settling into her new place, engaging in a bit of drinking and merrymaking in peace, only to flushedly encounter the specters of Contra past, present, and future. Fortunately for her, these are the types of people that she likes most. (She has stated in the past that she is mostly friends with gay men, but I hardly see any on her channel or Twitter.)

The host Peter's attitude reprised much of Natalie's early audience. I was chuffed when Peter admitted that his former therapist was Jordan B. Peterson. Peters are mannish, straight (or bicurious) philo grads, skeptical, tolerant, often fledgling content creators themselves. Basically, these are the type of people who pat themselves on the back for being able to maintain a straight face around a CD. Peters like to admire their own distance from the subconscious when engaging with trans identities, as it is what enables them to make it through a few hours around someone such as Natalie without any cog dis, e.g., flashbacks to the thousands of cumshots on cis women's faces that they've witnessed. Peters are the ghost of Contra past, always a bit shy of queerness themselves, though tolerant, and a few steps behind the progressive crowd, as well. but perhaps more capable of addressing Natalie's self-sabotage, considering that they are less aesthetically motivated. This type was there before Natalie ever really garnered support from the queers, though they are mostly missing to this day. Occasionally we run into one of these straight men who are just catching up to Natalie, more or less: for example, that recent interviewer Alok Kanojia, whose questioning was hardly conversational, and more akin to a psych eval, when Natalie has already talked about the topic of her transness/womanhood/femininity/etc. to death on her own channel. She seems to be much more at home when talking about party-line politics and mere aesthetic preferences.

Then we have the Hannahs, and Julias, and so on. . . that large contingent of conventionally situated cis women, femmes, and nonbinary people who are sent straight into fight-or-flight at the sight of Natalie, based on their preexisting notions of what Contrapoints is all about. There are a few commonalities here: there is the affirmation of an aesthetic conception of sexuality as opposed to a moral one. There is the success of Natalie's transition, due to the presently successful distribution of the aesthetic and the moral in their life, a presentation that leads to all sorts of unusual emotions in people; admiration, yes, but also, jealousy, resentment, and grief. Of course, there is the support that arises in the backlash to negativity, or the fandom's secondhand understanding of Natalie's negative interactions with various nonbinary and trans people, which seems deliberately skewed towards the power dynamic of platformed peoples in the first place. (Her video on Canceling has nothing to say about transfeminist talking points such as trans erasure, trans rights, or safe spaces; her fans tend to get riled up and make a few progressively-minded inferences here in Natalie's place.) With the exception of Natalie's "bio girl" obsession and her insistence on preferred pronouns, there is only Natalie's appeal as a moderate, always taking the less-than-radical stance on gender non-conformity and transness, which makes her slightly more palatable than any HSTS to any conservatively-minded woman casually coming to trans politics.

The present-day fanbase is not the most educated about Natalie, but they are the "proudest" of Contrapoints. They are the most likely to gawk at KF rhetoric and to stay away from here, thank the Lord. They are most likely to forgive Natalie's private life without reservation, for fear that they "attack" another femme. Natalie is in a cushy spot with these sorts of people right now: fight-or-flight triggers this or that in the ol' by noggin, and voila, Natalie's receiving another $2-5 a month, and a handful of comments and messages she won't bother to address. These fans skip over any problematic admissions or subtext, automatically assuming that any slip-up is tantamount to what is completely "authentic" in their videos. These supporters assume that Natalie has a clear position against the alt-right when in reality, the alt-right has served far more as a muse for her liberal critique of the disenfranchised Left than it has served as an object of criticism.

And, then. . . there are the Kevins, the Benitas, the Katys, Nathans, and Jeremys; yes, the impending phantasm of Natalie's Future is her gradual, perpetual exposure to a cottagecore club. These people demonstrate a more methodical interest in Natalie's work as it relates to YouTube as a medium, asking questions about her acting methods and influencer status. They might be less fanatic than a Hannah or a Julia, though they will approach the content with the same purported enthusiasm; but they may wonder more about things that zoomers, growing up as immediate participants in internet culture, don't immediately get to, like the impact of someone's self-indulgent power leveling, or Natalie's suggestion to ignore KF and right-wing critics and to just "be gay" instead (like that's any replacement for a thick skin). Natalie's rhetoric (especially in older videos) is sometimes disingenuous, and it is not clear whether Natalie was really that interested in conveying something authentic to an audience, so much as playing the part correctly.

Jeremy's question on pedagogy at the end of this Stoa interview is very interesting, considering that Natalie currently seems more preoccupied with memeing petulantly alongside Vaush, Riley, Jenny, Lindsay, and so on, than she does with making videos for high school teachers to put on when they're too hungover to teach class (PhilosophyTube is right on the mark there). In Natalie's response to Jeremy, she says that Justice (Part 1) was "kind of an educational video." I did notice that Natalie liked this comment on the Justice (Part 1) video:

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IMO the old Anatomy of an Uprising video was a much more pedagogically inspiring video on the topic of police brutality. Voting was a more straight-faced attempt at an educational video, though it's useless now. Those two are the throwaways this year. Another win for the right, as those were perhaps two of her most important topics to address as a leftist, though, as I've said, it seems like she really wants to stick to easy party-line rhetoric and to be done with any more "serious political work":

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More like, should have done more in tribute to Anatomy of an Uprising. The inspiration there was much more 'authentic,' if there's anything to be said about Natalie's relationship to Baltimore. She didn't seem too concerned this year about warning her stans that she finds rioting displeasing. It seems about right for a Baltimore Dem: spend years caucusing and organizing, only to stop caring entirely once you go crazy off of too many paint fumes.

Tbh, i don't know how much i believe that he had a truly fucked up childhood. I feel like its just another bit of drama to flourish his texperiences.

In 'Opulence' she admits that she was beaten up by other classmates, though the way she brings it up, it seems like an off-color joke. In any case, her fate seems better than most, and her particular success is hardly replicable. For every Natalie Wynn, there are a dozen or more stans in budding lolcowdom, inspired by her hardships. This metanarrative of Natalie pushing people in and out of binaries as an influencer is what makes her relationship to centrists and the alt-right interesting. I mean to say that Natalie's own project's utility is perhaps more significant to centrists and the alt-right than it will prove to be for leftists in the first place. Leftists already have the rallying cry of trans rights, and most of the progressive work on trans issues has already been attempted before Natalie Wynn even arrives on the scene. She is just a right place, right time kind of person who is going to convince a generation of people to make YouTube content that no one truly has the time for anymore. She inspires people to conquer their shame in the wrong way, to act defiantly in the face of canceling, and to ignore other people's cringe. It sounds like a surefire formula to make a bunch of young Leftists all get around to hating each other's weak autonomy. To me it is just not quite as satisfying as the fates of Darwin award winners who were trying to imitate their favorite action movie heroes.
 
I meant to respond to this earlier post but I only got around to it now, so here we go.

What I wanted to say in response to this is that you must remember that Nyk actually cross-dressed on Youtube before the ContraPoints channel. Nyk registered the ContraPoints account in 2011. He was already flaunting his femininity back when he was still Nykytyne2. If you look up the Nykytyne2 account archive, you can see that his old Nykytyne2 avatar was a picture of Nyk in a women's dress. This was the still from a Nykytyne2 video titled How To Not Be A Rapist where Nyk was playing a female role in the video.

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LMAO, notice the comment on the right where Nyk responds to CopperCab saying: "YES YOU'RE BACK! CopperCab I love you are my hero!!!!!". I wish they would go a collab in the present. CopperCab, if you're a KF regular like the rest of your Youtuber colleagues, please consider this.

Here is the thumbnail for the How To Not Be A Rapist video that became the Nykytyne2 avatar:

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So the public cross-dressing predates the ContraPoints channel.


Oliver is an almost certain maybe at this point. I don't know if you were already reading KF at the time that Oliver came out with his Queer video, if you haven't read those posts definitely go back and check them out. Oliver all but openly admitted that, when Nyk deleted his Twitter account and went on a vacation, Oliver himself was the one Nyk went on a vacation with. When people began to openly question whether Oliver was dating Nyk, he posted a written statement on Twitter complaining about how he "Had my private life speculated on", and it was like, bitch, you all but openly admitted that when Nyk was on vacation a month ago you were there with him. Of course Oliver was fucking around with Nyk, he's just too (hahaha, but it's in place here) transphobic to openly admit it (cos if you're fucking trannies at least have the balls to be honest about it, just admit it). He was the lover that Nyk was talking about in the Gender Critical video who wouldn't hold Nyk's hand in public. Later Oliver tweeted out (in response to NB zombies askin him to cancel Nyk for the Buck Angel thing): "I love her very much", I am sure that was just platonic mr. Lennard. I still wonder whether Oliver cheated on his cis girlfriend (the one that supposedly hit him) with Nyk.

It's like Nyk and Oliver really enjoyed feeding into these rumours that they are a couple... but if you are a trans activist, like Oliver pretends he is, why not just come out and say: "Hell yeah, I fuck trannies, and I fucked this here trannie that everyone thinks is the best thing since sliced bread. I am a confirmed trannie fucker fucker of trannies and a trans activist. I am a British cis man and I fuck American trannies barebacking on PrEP to demonstrate to the British that they don't have to be so TERFy. There is nothing to be scared of or worried about.". The only reason Olver would refuse to come out and openly admit whether he actually had a relationship with Nyk is his own homophobia. If Oliver can openly admit to having a cis girlfriend on a Livestream with Nyk, why not openly admit to having a trans girlfriend in Nyk? If he's such a trans activist, there should logically be no difference between the two, the two relationships, trans and cis, should be equal in worth and value. Why obfuscate, if not because of internalized homophobia? And yes, I instantly thought of Oliver when I heard Nyk talk on that one Livestream about cis men who keep trannies as their dirty little secret.



I always go back to the fact that no one has ever come out and admitted fuqing Nyk, pre or after HRT. It's Nyk himself who is claiming to have all this crazy sex with all these people, but these claims are never independently confirmed. Not even Theryn or Oliver, whom everyone assumes are having sex with Nyk, did ever confirm having sex with Nyk as a transwoman. I will highlight again Nyk doing that Livestream a while back where he said that cis men who fuq trannies should come out and say it and be out loud and proud about it instead of "treating us as their dirty little secret". (BTW, Nyk, did you fuq Theryn or are you treating her as your "dirty little secret"? If you want other to be out, loud and proud about fuqing trannies why not just come out and say it yourself, you hypocrite?). I very strongly suspect that the reason Nyk made this statement is because the cis men who have fuqed Nyk have ever came out and been out, loud and proud about it. Nyk did a whole video insisting that we need to stop telling these dudes they're gay for fuqing trannies, reinforcing the idea that he is driven by internalized homophobia. Because if we only enable their internalized homophobia ("I am not homo, I'm a tranniefucker, fucker of trannies"), these dudes will surely be more forthcoming about fuqing trannies. Or so Nyk would have you believe.

That said, I think people underestimate the sheer amount of sexual interest there is in Nyk. I know Positron here on KF thinks that Nyk is lying about having 2500 pantysniffers on Tinder, but I personally believe it's true and that Nyk does have countless of chasers. Most people like Nyk because they see him as a postergirl of the left and they just want to fuck him. And his troon fans would reinterpret the fact that he was streaming trannie porn and lesbian smut on BlogTV as evidence of his being an egg all these years. Another thing: Nyk said in one of the Livestreams that there are deepfakes of him on the porn sites. He said that he has seen these deepfakes and didn't seem to mind about them. There is also a deepfake animator on Twitter who has been tweeting his deepfakes at Nyk. The links to these deepfakes of Nyk on Twitter were posted here on KF, if you insisting on seeing them. Nyk even pressed like on one of those.




Let me explain the context in which I and I would imagine others here on KF speculated about Nyk being gay and using his trans-LARP as an excuse to come out and have sex with men:

After bragging about being "soft for months" due to his HRT, the first time Nick tweeted about having sex again as a transwoman was him bragging about all the anal sex he was having with his Tinder dates. The guy was clearly waiting to burst out of the closet all these years and find an excuse to have anal sex with men. He also says on Twitter that he discovered he enjoyed being the passive partner or bottom in anal sex as a result of being trans, but that's bullshit because he already said he liked pegging (anal sex with a strap-on) back when he was a self-declared "pretty much straight" man. So his claim that he discovered his liking of anal sex as a result of being trans is a lie. He already liked anal sex before, he just didn't have the nerve to have anal sex with men so he was asking women to "top" him back then.

So, here you have a guy, who openly said on his Livestream that he was asking women to give him anal sex with a strap on, who admitted he was disgusted at the idea of having penetrative sex with women (like you would expect from a gay man)... who now pretends to have discovered anal sex with men as a result of being trans.

So my attitude at the time was, OK, you are gay but you don't have to pretend to be trans to justify wanting to have anal sex with men. It's OK if you don't want to have sex with vagina and prefer to have anal sex with men. You don't have to invent stories to justify wanting to have gay sex.

Nyk was already into anal sex and anal penetration back in the day. Everyone who was around back then still remembers Nyk getting drunk and trying to fuck a bottle on a Livestream once. Even his friend Dick Coughlan mentioned it during that Livestream that Nyk has now deleted. Everyone knew Nyk was into his ass back then. Nyk even made fun of his anal fixation in one of this rsponse videos to Armoured Skeptic:

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Now he goes on Twitter and pretends that he discovered his love of anal sex only as a result of being trans and going on dates with his Tinder chasers and being their bottomy/subby girl. Those of us who have seen Nyk on BlogTv know better. Nyk was always into anal sex. It's hysterical that he now pretends otherwise.

That said, I don't think Nyk is a self-loathing homophobe, I agree that he's a textbook example of AGP and that his sexual escapades with men were more about validation and passing rather than being genuinely interested in men. I do think there is a lot of denied homophobia on his part, and his resentment at Shane and Jeffree was the confirmation for me. Nyk's homophobia stems from the fact he envies famous succesful gay men, because he recognized that their homosexuality gave them an edge and streetcred that he as an upper-middle class straight white boy just doesn't have and can never hope to have. This envy of gay men goes back to Nyk's admiration of the books David Sedaris and Quentin Crisp - Nyk was literally reading Quentin Crisp on his way to VidCon2017, a month before he trooned out on darknet HRT. A gay man can fuck a man as a man, which Nyk cannot bring himself to do, so he envies homos for being able to do the one thing he secretly desired all this time but could not bring himself to do.



So the best thing about being a Youtube millionaire is brunch?

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I appreciate his honesty, that he readily admits that he really is a vapid shopaholic with no life and no purpose other than wanting to be rich, but whoa the motherfucker, what a pampered unworthy ungrateful piece of shit.

BTW, this is not what he originally said about becoming a Youtuber. He originally said (in one of the Pokemon Gamestreams that has since been taken down) that he did it because he always wanted to be an artist but didn't feel like he had enough talent to pull it off. It's very telling that he started out with this hipster posturing, "oh, I am such an artistuh", only to end up admitting: "Yeah, I lied about being an artistuh, I am just plain greedy, it was just about paying the bills and living the life all along."
I think Daddy Blanchard has a thing to say about all of this:

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Again, Nyk is a stereotype of an AGP, right down to denying that he is one.
 
She is just a right place, right time kind of person who is going to convince a generation of people to make YouTube content that no one truly has the time for anymore. She inspires people to conquer their shame in the wrong way, to act defiantly in the face of canceling, and to ignore other people's cringe.

I recently paid a little visit to r/breadtube and saw the decadence of that community.

In my opinion, the whole breadtube ethos has become fedoratube 2.0. Most posts are from people self promoting their own underwhelming videos covering topics the big boys have already covered. I wont say that these videos are not well made, but they are certainly not original. It got my attention how one of the members was teasing a future video of them "uncovering" alt-right "cults" within youtube. Needless to say; these "cults" they were refering to were nothing more than the fashwave community that has always been part of youtube since 2016.

A lot of people on that subreddit claim to ve "ex alt-right" but seem extremely ignorant of true state of the far right; sure, they know the memes, but they have no idea of where to find them, or what the dog whistles are now. They even seem to be ignorant of the transition of the internet right from Nazi Larpers to Kaczynski-esque eco fascist and Nick Land-ish accelerationist, or even it's return to something more akin to cyberpunk and hacker culture. Moreover: a lot of their sworn enemies have become tankies, and are making a great job exposing their contradictions while they keep attacking an imaginary foe.
 
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It got my attention how one of the [breadtube] members was teasing a future video of them "uncovering" alt-right "cults" within youtube. Needless to say; these "cults" they were refering to were nothing more than the fashwave community that has always been part of youtube since 2016.
A long-teased upcoming ContraPoints video is about Conspiracy, surely, to discredit any evidence of her participation in the real satanic cabals --
A lot of people on that [breadtube] subreddit ... seem to be ignorant of the transition of the internet right from Nazi Larpers to Kaczynski-esque eco fascist and Nick Land-ish accelerationist, or even it's return to something more akin to cyberpunk and hacker culture.
Kaczynski was hardly an eco. Don't you mean 'anarcho-primitivist'?

Natalie is predominately concerned with social justice as the necessary limit on political activity, which keeps her situated as a reformist. The alt-right playbook has never been as overt as any accelerationist or posthumanist platform, though breadtube is quick to those comparative arguments. Ironically enough, what accelerationism, ecoterrorism, and posthumanism all have in common is the injunction to 'set free what lives,' which calls back to the twentieth century's interpretation of Natalie's darling, Nietzsche. The question of what needs to be set free is precisely what distinguishes these viewpoints from each other. Still, they are all revolutionary theories, as opposed to reformist theories. Natalie keeps hinting at a future project involving Nietzsche, perhaps to advance her own vision of how amorality influences the future. However, it is unclear whether this project is some upcoming ContraPoints video or some other work that she keeps situated on the horizon due to a lack of confidence. In any case, her read on Nietzsche seems closest to Deleuze's romanticized exegesis, who was correct in situating Nietzsche further on the left than dominant twentieth-century interpretations, but who can be said to have moralized Nietzsche a bit, in the last instance.
 
Kaczynski's fans on that part of the internet rarely make a distintion and probably consider both to be the same thing. Hence why I didn't make a distinction.
I see what you mean now, absolutely. Interesting that these types seem to be interested in coming right out with their radical agendas, whereas it seems more prudent to bide one's time, when one is on that sort of megalomanical trajectory. Contra is in a league of their own in terms of drumming up the material resources and blind support, often completely leaving their own situatedness in the world out of the picture. After all, it's plain for all to see that Natalie isn't likely to radicalize any further. She's a progressive Dem who isn't opposed to high tax raises that disproportionately affect minorities, and she expresses skepticism towards defunding the police.

As to whether she's secretly building pipe bombs of her own, more like she's been careful not to disclose her location at her new place, maybe so as to continue to ignore the neighborhood troons, whom she would step on like insects if they were to cross paths. (She has come down hard against 'trenders,' but let's remember that she was the one who brought the Blanchard typology back into popular consciousness, subsequently giving a lot of folks the AGP/HSTS distinction in the place of ts/tt, even though she purports to disavow Blanchard herself.) She honestly seems happier in life with her connections to MRAs, centrist skeptics like June, people who are in denial of ephebophilic takes like Vaush, and the edgier libertarian socialist crowd. . . you get the picture
 
Guys, you're gonna love this new ContraPoints interview, I swear:


Nyk is feeling fugly: "And I can't stand how I look", Michael Jackson polysurgery addiction when? I guess we'll have to wait after the pandemic for that. I mean he already sounds like Michael Jackson, might as well take it all the way.

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Aaaw, would look at this poor Youtube millionaire, he can't go on transatlantic trips anymore to see his best friend fuckbuddy. Why not celebrate the fact that you're not increasing your carbon footprint Nyk? "I kind of lost my best friend.", well Nyk if Trump stages a coup, like you so desperately desire, then you can bug out to the UK and cry to Oliver to take you back in, and since Oliver is part of the SJW cult he has no choice but to be a TRA ally and let you back into his life. Come on, admit it, this is the real reason you want Trump to stage a coup.


"Made a mess of my whole life/Call that bitch Katrina", I am sure Nyk can fully identify with those lyrics, LMAO.

Nyk: "The year I became a Youtube millionaire has been the worst year of my life"

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"There's also a lot of transphobia in the world, and a lot of it finds its way to my eyeballs online", no, you deliberately seek it out, just like you lied about blocking /LGBT on 4chan so you wouldn't have to read their "transphobia" anymore. Why don't you download some of that censorware that your fellow SJW censorfascists have put out, like Shinigari Eyes, and use that to protect your brittle sense of self from the truth? But no, you deliberately go looking for trouble online because your life is so empty and vapid.

Nyk: "Being a Young Angry Queer (YAQ) on the internet is to hate ContraPoints.", what about all the Old Wise Lesbians (OWLs) aka TERFs online who also hate you, you ageist? Nevermind, you only want to be cool with the young kids cos what who you're really into.

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He also tweeted this:

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"Total unhinged madness" said the man who thinks he's a woman but also doesn't believe there are men and women and instead insists that everything a spectrum while lying about biology. (Funny, I have yet to see a debunking video from either Riley, Xanderpig or Vaush to @zaelefty's video. I guess they know they're full of shit, so they're just going to ignore it entirely.)
 
"I don't know why I'm as hated as I am."

If Nyk wants proof that he's a lolcow, he just displayed one of the key criteria. A profound lack of self awareness.
A notable quality of Contrapoints is her odd level of self awareness. Truly she doesn't have nearly enough to feel consistent shame or become motivated to change. But she does have the tiniest inkling of self awareness, especially on topics like her radical politics. This is very unlike her fellow twitter troons and reddit revolutionaries, who as we know have no understanding of everyone else's opinions.

But remember that shame. You have to remember that Contra is a typical /tttt/ tranner. Most /lgbt/ troons are in a weird dissonant phase between twitter and 4chan culture, and therefore between arrogant denial and stark self awareness. This only produces more self-deprecation and eventually, self-pathologization.


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Am I the only one noticing how mindless Nyk has started to look and behave? The puckered face, the glassy eyes, the glossy skin? Ever since the FFS she's just become more and more like a misshapen porcelain doll. I want to say it's in the name of passing but it's not even human enough for that. Well, when she's not painted we can assume the gigahon boldly returns. Not to mention the atrocious cali vocal fry, and the uncanny stillness via antidepressants. She's fully succumbed to the Los Angeles way. I'm about to say I want the old, unpassing Nyk back, at least that was more humorous than disturbing.
 
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