- Joined
- Apr 22, 2019
This Quinton Flynn situation really makes me MATI. From what I understand, he chatted with women over the internet. He wanted sex, he said things that convinced those women to sext him things. He may or may not have had some sort of sexual interaction with those women who believed they were consenting at the time but later felt upset about it. It's similar to the Ryan from RoosterTeeth thing. All these women engaged willingly with the guy, but they were too dumb to realize that it was just the worstest thing ever until after they were done.
So, personally, I'm of the opinion that sex should be something that happens only in a monogamous marriage, and that you should do sufficient due diligence before getting married to have a pretty darn good reason to think your marriage will last. I think sex in any other situation is immoral and unintelligent HOWEVER, I also have spent my whole life living in a society in which it's very common for people to disagree with me and I've been happy enough to let them live their lives and have their own views. It's not my job to force people to adhere to my world view.
That said, I am just sick of the hypocrisy and the lack of foresight of all these people who are running around claiming that there's something off-the-charts nefarious about men pursuing women, even multiple women. They're in favor of women being sexually liberated, aren't they? Of women choosing how and when to have sex? And not shaming them if they're not interested in marriage and monogamy? But at the same time, they're acting as if women lack the intellectual capacity to ever be able to really consent.
OMG, he lied to me! I was incapable of understanding that humans are capable of lying! Therefore my agreeing to engage sexually with him wasn't really consent.
OMG, he kept giving all these clues that he wanted sex, and I picked up the clues enough to be able to send him nudes, but I didn't really understand where the whole thing was going, therefore my agreeing to engage sexually with him wasn't really consent.
OMG, I totally lack sufficient understanding of human nature to realize the ramifications of my choices, and to understand the steps necessary to tell whether this sexual encounter is one that I'm going to regret in the future, therefore my agreeing to engage sexually with him wasn't really consent.
What these people are doing is shouting at top volume to the world that women are mentally and emotionally incapable of being able to consent to sex with men. Not only that, women are incapable of using their judgment to avoid having sex with men if those men put even the slightest pressure on them. What they are advocating for is a world view in which the only possible solution for the problem of female stupidity and laziness is for women to be protected by outside agents; women can't be left alone in the presence of men or those men might try to seduce them and that's inexcusable! Women must be chaperoned in all interactions with men, otherwise they might make a mistake they were too stupid to see coming and too emotionally and intellectually deficient to deal with after they realized the error of their ways. We must protect the women!
These people will take us right back to the 12th century with women strapped into chastity belts and locked up in towers for their own protection. I don't need some stupid chaperone to force me to make the right choice and I don't appreciate their infantilizing treatment of women. These people simultaneously want to believe that women should be sexually liberated and yet want to act like women are too delicate and inferior to men to ever really be capable of giving consent. Females these days need to grow the hell up and take responsibility for their own life choices.
/end rant
So, personally, I'm of the opinion that sex should be something that happens only in a monogamous marriage, and that you should do sufficient due diligence before getting married to have a pretty darn good reason to think your marriage will last. I think sex in any other situation is immoral and unintelligent HOWEVER, I also have spent my whole life living in a society in which it's very common for people to disagree with me and I've been happy enough to let them live their lives and have their own views. It's not my job to force people to adhere to my world view.
That said, I am just sick of the hypocrisy and the lack of foresight of all these people who are running around claiming that there's something off-the-charts nefarious about men pursuing women, even multiple women. They're in favor of women being sexually liberated, aren't they? Of women choosing how and when to have sex? And not shaming them if they're not interested in marriage and monogamy? But at the same time, they're acting as if women lack the intellectual capacity to ever be able to really consent.
OMG, he lied to me! I was incapable of understanding that humans are capable of lying! Therefore my agreeing to engage sexually with him wasn't really consent.
OMG, he kept giving all these clues that he wanted sex, and I picked up the clues enough to be able to send him nudes, but I didn't really understand where the whole thing was going, therefore my agreeing to engage sexually with him wasn't really consent.
OMG, I totally lack sufficient understanding of human nature to realize the ramifications of my choices, and to understand the steps necessary to tell whether this sexual encounter is one that I'm going to regret in the future, therefore my agreeing to engage sexually with him wasn't really consent.
What these people are doing is shouting at top volume to the world that women are mentally and emotionally incapable of being able to consent to sex with men. Not only that, women are incapable of using their judgment to avoid having sex with men if those men put even the slightest pressure on them. What they are advocating for is a world view in which the only possible solution for the problem of female stupidity and laziness is for women to be protected by outside agents; women can't be left alone in the presence of men or those men might try to seduce them and that's inexcusable! Women must be chaperoned in all interactions with men, otherwise they might make a mistake they were too stupid to see coming and too emotionally and intellectually deficient to deal with after they realized the error of their ways. We must protect the women!
These people will take us right back to the 12th century with women strapped into chastity belts and locked up in towers for their own protection. I don't need some stupid chaperone to force me to make the right choice and I don't appreciate their infantilizing treatment of women. These people simultaneously want to believe that women should be sexually liberated and yet want to act like women are too delicate and inferior to men to ever really be capable of giving consent. Females these days need to grow the hell up and take responsibility for their own life choices.
/end rant
