2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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It has nothing to do with evidence. You could have ironclad proof, that doesn't stop the zealots from threatening you or your livelihood.
And we've already seen where that got them in Michigan- it's essentially the only clear example so far of officials being threatened to not do their job properly, which only resulted in said officials signing affidavits and rescinding their votes, which seemingly haven't actually been certified either, to the point that Trump's legal team is lessening their focus there. You can extrapolate and speculate further, but as of now, it still seems to be rooted more in paranoia than anything concrete.
 
The last time the American political landscape shifted in favor of the worker was during the FDR administration, when intense union power and the threat of violent Communist revolution forced the corporatist cripple to do something for the common man. Antifa is a joke, a tool of the system that Donald Trump deliberately allowed to run wild against anyone who would challenge him for his failure to deliver on cutting immigration, deporting illegals, targeting employers of illegals, and harassing corporates who shifted jobs overseas. They're exemplified by grotesque specimens like Gwen Snyder.. neoliberals, not leftists.

Will real leftists who don't trade in IDPol be able to get traction? Maybe, maybe not. The neoliberal poison runs deep, but it won't be any worse than under Trump with the retard neolibs running wild, or under Obama who at least pretended to care about improving things for the everyman.

"Don't talk about it... you'll jinx it"
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Yes, that’s interesting, but why are you Turkish and allow Iblis to fuck your asshole?
 
How so? Is it because the evidence isn't strong enough? Is it based on the past histories of the SCOTUS judges? Is it due to something in the legal process that means it somehow won't be appealed to the SCOTUS to begin with? You're proving my point, there's no substance to the odds you're giving. Paranoia is not reality nor is it objective, at best it's a literal cope so that no matter what, you won't be disappointed due to setting your expectations so low.

Because literally the entire system wants his orange ass out of the office, and this is how they're going to get just that, public opinion and integrity be damned. What possible reason do people that would be capable of voter fraud, and the people who would let it happen and pretend it doesn't exist for the express purpose of political expediency, have not to leverage every unfair advantage they can muster?

A conscience? That's optimistic as fuck. If he pulls it off it will be very definitively in spite of the system and the people who operate it, not because it's some fair uncaring machine.
 
While the entire process is slow, it has been abysmally moving at a snail's pace.
Earlier in the week, I observed that around this time, a verdict was rendered from that Florida circuit court in 2000.

I don't think we're moving at a snail's pace, but rather you're antsy because you're privy to information that normies get much later and see how quickly it takes for the MSM to spin it to kill traction.
 
Yeah, the sad thing is that even if Trump wins now they will have 4 years to learn from their mistakes with the next republican candidate
It won't matter if all the relevant people get their shit in gear and take measures to Florida-up. Pennsylvania needs a Jeb.
 
They did try in PA. But you can't really do anything with the state courts are blatantly stacked against you to the point where they ignore their own laws, if I recall what happened correctly.
You also can't allege a future illegal act will probably happen. Like what was the trump campaign supposed to do before the election, more than they already did? A little hard to get a court to hear that you think the other side is gonna cheat in the election.

In pa they went so far as to have the sc order the ballots to be segregated and observers be allowed to actually observe.

Yeah, we're all hedging our bets and trying not to get our hopes up too much, but goddamn fuck off with the "it's all hopeless" bullshit. If you can't substantiate it with an actual claim of substance.

Misery loves company but nobody wants to be your company you miserable bastards.
 
Why does Trump even want a second term? Covid stupidity is about to cause an economic crisis that's almost unprecedented with possible violence and societal breakdown to follow. Better for all the shit to go down under a democratic presidency so they take the blame.
 
Because literally the entire system wants his orange ass out of the office, and this is how they're going to get just that, public opinion and integrity be damned. What possible reason do people that would be capable of voter fraud, and the people who would let it happen and pretend it doesn't exist for the express purpose of political expediency, have not to leverage every unfair advantage they can muster?

A conscience? That's optimistic as fuck.
Alright, so list what exactly they'll do. Everyone knows that Democrats, RINOs, and the media are overwhelmingly against Trump, but that doesn't mean it's impossible for him to come out on top. I'm not even saying it's likely, but there seems to be this conception that due to the institutional power they hold, the DNC can't ever make mistakes or be incompetent, which again, the recent happening in Michigan shows just one way where that isn't always the case, to the point that even the more pessimistic posters in this thread were baffled to how that could even happen.
 
Why does Trump even want a second term? Covid stupidity is about to cause an economic crisis that's almost unprecedented with possible violence and societal breakdown to follow. Better for all the shit to go down under a democratic presidency so they take the blame.
So he can stop it? And if it collapsed under the Left, they'd just blame it on Trump.
 
Why does Trump even want a second term? Covid stupidity is about to cause an economic crisis that's almost unprecedented with possible violence and societal breakdown to follow. Better for all the shit to go down under a democratic presidency so they take the blame.
Also a good chance of a climate catastrophe due to pole shifting and a potential blue ocean event (which in all likelihood will just result in similar weather conditions to 5 million years ago).
 
What are you going to do in a year when Biden is in office and nothing has fundamentally changed? Cry about voter fraud until you die?
Also looking forward to conservatards pretending that Trump's last minute sops to the people who put him over the line in 2016, but didn't care as much as the people who righteously hated him in 2020, were things that he was actually seriously trying to implement.
  1. "Biden re-authorized Critical Race Theory training that Trump did nothing to actually enforce his last minute ban on! He's a DEMONRAT racist"
  2. "Biden increased H1-B levels to the levels they were at under Obama, before Trump brought in even more in his first three years, only reducing them in the last minute due to COVID. He hates American workers!"
Maybe Trump will do a last minute EO against birthright citizenship too in a bad-faith attempt to get the Supreme Court to rule in favor of birthright citizenship being an actual thing. Should be fun!
 
Why does Trump even want a second term? Covid stupidity is about to cause an economic crisis that's almost unprecedented with possible violence and societal breakdown to follow. Better for all the shit to go down under a democratic presidency so they take the blame.
It would be nice to eliminate a giant source of voter fraud, for one...

Who the fuck cares about legacy? Democrats don't get blame either way. I would like for america to prosper, rather than be managed into decline for the benefit of george soros and the davos crew.
What are you going to do in a year when Biden is in office and nothing has fundamentally changed? Cry about voter fraud until you die?
Let us know when you guys have stopped crying about 2016 and then we'll talk. Accurate username though.
 
Why does Trump even want a second term? Covid stupidity is about to cause an economic crisis that's almost unprecedented with possible violence and societal breakdown to follow. Better for all the shit to go down under a democratic presidency so they take the blame.
You think the media blaming Trump for everything will stop with him out of office?

Did you forget the roller-coaster of "when economy good it's the Obama economy, when bad it's the Trump economy" and so on? No reason it couldn't be done with COVID surges.
 
The simple problem is that Republicans just do not do pre-emptive lawfare because their ideology, whatever it may be, just does not allow for it.

I mean, you need zeal to do that. There's no zeal on the Republican-higher-echelon end, because if there is you get tarred by the media even when you win.

Let's also be more exact - it wasn't election night, it was post-election pre-dawn.
You're right, other posters in the thread make points defending it that boil down to exactly that, and they all deserve to lose because of it.
 
What are you going to do in a year when Biden is in office and nothing has fundamentally changed? Cry about voter fraud until you die?
It will fundamentally change, my friend. It will be moving at a slower pace to the point you won't notice it. You will be unarmed. You will eat the bugs. You will live in a pod. You will own nothing. And you will be happy.
 
Why does Trump even want a second term? Covid stupidity is about to cause an economic crisis that's almost unprecedented with possible violence and societal breakdown to follow. Better for all the shit to go down under a democratic presidency so they take the blame.
There are a fuckton of parties who are looking to bury him with lawsuits and indictments when he leaves office. Those may or may not be legally meritorious, but the point of them is to punish Orange Hitler for humiliating Princess Pantsuit.
 
Alright, so list what exactly they'll do. Everyone knows that Democrats, RINOs, and the media are overwhelmingly against Trump, but that doesn't mean it's impossible for him to. I'm not even saying it's likely, but there seems to be this conception that due to the institutional power they hold, the DNC can't ever make mistakes or be incompetent, which again, the recent happening in Michigan shows just one way where that isn't always the case, to the point that even the more pessimistic posters in this thread were baffled to how that could even happen.

You misunderstand, it's not that they're all powerful or incapable of error, it's that we've reached the point that it clearly doesn't matter anymore. If there was even a sliver of an iota of a chance of Trump turning this around, the powers that be wouldn't be acting so cocksure in victory. Not of course, that Trump can't do it, but the powers arrayed against him are much more potent than you seem to be making them out to be.

I would not be shocked in the least if, if any of these cases went to SCOTUS, they'd cuck out and give it to Biden to "keep the peace" or some such mealy-mouthed bullshit. I'm not saying it's impossible either, but it damn sure isn't likely. And, like I said, it would be in spite of the system, not in working with it. Judges are still at the end of the day, human, and like you were keen to point out that means they are capable of making mistakes. Or "mistakes", going by that one story of that woman who got death threats over this bullshit.
 
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