2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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None of them were up for reelection this year. If Manchin's ass was on the line this year, he'd have stayed well away. Just look at what happened to Doug Jones in AL. Tommy Tuberville clobbered his ass.
Doug Jones won only because Roy Moore was thrown to the dogs by the after the sexual misconduct allegations, and even then he only lost by just over 1%. Nobody wanted Jones, but not nearly as many people were motivated to vote for Moore. People were calling 2020 for future Republican challenger on the day of that special election in 2017.
Yes, those states are fucked for now, but I have a very strong feeling that Porkface Whitmer will have a very difficult election struggle in 2022, especially if John James is nominated for the race. As for Blackface Ralph, let's see if he tries to turn VA into a gun free state again.
If the Detroit fraud machine is left alone, she'll win handily. John James hasn't given up the fight, and he knows there lots of fraud.
According to Powell, Trump did so well that Dominion algorithms actually broke and they had to resort to manual input of Biden votes to win.

Funny if true.
73 million is record breaking (despite the muh nobody voted drumpf narrative), so that can't be far from the truth.
 
You guys are a bit behind here on the farms.

There is robust technical and statistical evidence of fraud over analysis.

The results don't look fishy because they are "weird", you see outright technical and mathematical impossibilities in them.
To be fair they aren't impossible, they are just outrageously unlikely (i.e. 5.5 standard deviations away from the norm). Now this improbability is confounded by the fact there were multiple such once-in-a-lifetime events happening simultaneously but only in the specific districts Biden needed to win.

Again to clarify for all nay-sayers, this isn't to say it was outrageously unlikely for Biden to win, just that it was mind-blowingly improbable for the manner of which he won.

73 million is record breaking (despite the muh nobody voted drumpf narrative), so that can't be far from the truth.
This is what's further mind-blowing.

Like again if Ohio & Florida and all the bellweather counties went to Biden or even were narrow toss-ups, and Trump reeled in just 63-68 million a Biden victory would be obvious. But the fact that Trump utterly outperformed all expectations and still lost thanks to crazy unforeseeable shooting star turnout events?

Call me a skeptic, call it cope, but something doesn't fucking seem legit.
 
Keep in mind, Gustav, that all the swing states but Nevada are Republican controlled. And while they are run by RINOs they uhm... their constituents are not. They are going to feel a lot of pressure to do some election reform, and hooo boy if Trump loses its going to be a -lot- of pressure.

I hope so. There'll be a comparatively small amount of pain in having them not certify the results and force a contingent election but it will be nowhere near as bad as essentially ceding the ability to decide elections to a few ballot stuffers in Democrat-run cities in PA, MI, WI, GA, NV, AZ.

That relies on them being able to control the elections in OH, TX, FL, and a bunch of other states and that people will actually listen to them.

Not at all. Biden got to 270 this time using rigged votes in the states I mentioned. They could just keep doing that. They don't give a shit what people in OH, TX, FL think because they know they've got 270 votes in the bag with the states they can win legally and the ones they can win illegally.

We'll just read New York Times and Washington Post thinkpieces about how TX and FL are no longer the bellwethers they used to be due to ... reasons. And we'll also hear how demographics will turn them blue in a couple of decades anyway and if you look at the history of the nation states have gained and lost their bellwether status according to experts and people complaining about being disenfranchised in TX and FL are just stupid dummies who voted for Trump and are probably racist.
 
Honestly, I am starting to view Biden as a better outcome the more I talk to Democrats. Now before I get hate—bombed, hear me out.

The Dems are split right now into two factions. There are the neo-Libs and their support base amongst the Gen X 40+ year olds that are very along the lines of people on the Farms in terms of politics, and then there is the progressive base comprised of 20-30 year old Millennials and early Gen Z that wants their Communist run. The older Dem base is smart, if not just behind in the times. They went from ahead of the old Neo-cons in the 90s and 2000s to the very Fox News watchers they bash as they rely solely on CNN and comedians because they were great 10+ years ago. They really do not align with progressives and would freak out about any change as they cannot even handle more moderate progressives like Bernie. When AOC is really on full display for something other than “strong woman” or “Trump Bad” the hope would be that Gen X loses it as her policies are too far left. Since Progressives are looking to overturn the Dem party for themselves, I believe anything hooking the two coinciding Dem generations together will fall apart quickly as the ideologies are contradictory to each other. Gen X wants to stay in the Obungo years, Progressives want full Commie mode. Their only glue was Trump, so expect war to break out.

I think Trump has done his work. He has radicalized the left to much for many to go with them. They are no longer slowly moving towards Communism and race policies like they were in 2016. Back then they could gain older peeps as they slowly introduced them to race policies and guilted them in. Now that they are going all in on stuff like the race education, which I have seen old Dems depict it as ridiculous.

As for Republicans, this election was so poorly handled that I doubt they will lose any support. Trump’s base is energized and ready to go, which will push support for the GOP in 24. Republicans can also likely count on the slow rising numbers of Gen Z as the more young, Republican base starts to factor in. If Progressives attempt to kill Biden’s run like they are planning, expect infighting in the DNC which will lead to low turnout as either progressives will get kicked out again and try to promote 3rd party, or they will win and alienate Gen X to leaving. The Dems cannot win without compromise, but neither is looking to do that. Progressives want blood, and Establishment has cucked all progressives for 4 years now.

Trump held the Dems together, without him, I say easy winnings for the GOP come 24, you know, unless fraud happens. :roll:
This, ladies and gentlemen, is cope.

"If we lose we actually win more!"

Take note, people who like to call everything cope.
 
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but as of this moment I think it would be better for Biden to win, although Trump should still fight this in court for as long as possible. There are several reasons for this:
1. With Biden in and Trump out, the Democrats have a pyrrhic victory. The lightning rod that unified the warring factions is gone, and they're left to pick up the pieces of a country they destroyed to get the win. Assuming of course that we're not in a pandemic or some other bullshit in 2022, the DNC won't have the time to sufficiently rebuild in a way that they will be super popular, and dementia Joe and Kopmala aren't nearly charismatic enough to guarantee that the mid terms won't be a rout.

2. Republicans control the legislatures of most states where there will be redistricting, and will likely also push through some further election integrity laws. I strongly see Georgia and Pennsylvania tightening their laws, but this will need to have legal challenges.

3. Trump's massive turnout shows the Republicans can't and won't ignore his ideological base. That means they will need to pander to economic populism, which makes them more liable to primary challenges.

4. Trump not backing down and fighting it all the way will endear him to his base, as if he had just given up they would've abandoned him. He will instead live on as a martyr against a corrupt system and will likely serve as a new Reagan. A more appropriate analogy is actually Salvador Allende, but not nearly as much of an authoritarian faggot as he was.
Laughable that people think the republicans are capable of learning anything from Trump besides pandering to minorities(its even questionable if that was the main cause of the rise in his support among them). Trump "losing" is more likely to destroy the Republican party, not the Dems. The progressive/Neo lib split in the Democratic party is surface level imo, outside of a few far lefties both sides have the same goals long term. Whereas Republicans are all over the place and actively divided over issues such as censorship and immigration.
 
Doug Jones won only because Roy Moore was thrown to the dogs by the after the sexual misconduct allegations, and even then he only lost by just over 1%. Nobody wanted Jones, but not nearly as many people were motivated to vote for Moore. People were calling 2020 for future Republican challenger on the day of that special election in 2017.

If the Detroit fraud machine is left alone, she'll win handily. John James hasn't given up the fight, and he knows there lots of fraud.
Roy Moore was a product of the MeToo witch hunt and a deeply divided GOP. He was the GOP's choice for the nom, and those spineless bastards did nothing for him as he faced down the Witchhunt at it's full strength. The Kavanaugh confirmation changed a lot of that now, and Tara Reade's unpersoning has for the most part discredited MeToo.

The Detroit fraud needs to actually be litigated for years, hard evidence needs to be collected, and a solid case needs to be built. That requires months and years, not weeks, of discovery, and that can only happen starting next year. This is why the GOP leadership needs to step up now to nip it in the bud. It's unlikely to go away even with a Trump win unless it's litigated for real.
 
I hope so. There'll be a comparatively small amount of pain in having them not certify the results and force a contingent election but it will be nowhere near as bad as essentially ceding the ability to decide elections to a few ballot stuffers in Democrat-run cities in PA, MI, WI, GA, NV, AZ.
While the GOP tend to be cucks, they don't tend to simply sit around doing nothing. Florida is an example of this happening twice.

The problem with the GOP is that they tend to be crippled by two vices, faith in the system and love of procedure.

The first makes them unable to respond to Democrat shenanigans due to being ostriches, the latter makes them -slow as fuck- to address problems unless a fire is put under their ass.
 
73 million is record breaking (despite the muh nobody voted drumpf narrative), so that can't be far from the truth.
The fact that it is even a competition, and that the Blue Wave didn't happen (or it was dashed against a Red Cliff), has broken liberals' brains. Their circlejerk has been so severe that they cannot fathom anyone could ever disagree with them. You'd think they made eye contact with Cthulhu.
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Fuck it, I want these pieces of shit to live in abject fear. I hope they're losing sleep and keeping their heads on swivels.

I hope nothing actually happens to them, because I don't want the Left to have martyrs. But it feels good, knowing that the mere existence of people like me makes their lives a living hell. They call people like me "domestic terrorists"? Good. I hope my existence strikes terror in whatever shriveled, gangrenous, maggot-ridden lump of rotten flesh they have that passes for a heart. They are evil, and they deserve it.
 
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You think Joe Manchin doesn't realize that his thin majority relies on him pandering to people who openly support a conservative SCOTUS? He votes for court packing, and he can kiss his seat goodbye. Did you also know that there's a Democratic Senator in MT? Imagine if that guy votes for court packing to destroy a conservative SCOTUS. Sherrod Brown of OH is also in the hot seat if it goes through. Finally, any Republican senator with any dreams of incumbency or staying in the good graces of the GOP won't dare to fuck McConnell over like that. There's a reason why Romney has been such a bitch to Cocaine Mitch, and that's because he realizes that if he crosses the tortoise he'll be primaried faster than you can say binders full of women.
You don't understand that there is no, "Kissing his seat goodbye" because the vote will never matter. You won't be able to vote these people out. If they rig this election, they will do it again, and they will do it so thoroughly that the fraud will be virtually undetectable. Any talk of not accepting the results will immediately cause swathes of headlines about how Republican candidates refuse to concede, and then walla! All the balls the RINOs gained under Trump will disappear. They'll take the path of least resistance like they always do and be content to be the controlled opposition.

That is what is on the line this election.
 
I am really not a fan of how Tucker is being jerked off for the Sydney Powell thing. I hate how quick the left is to jump on the dicks of right wingers who say something negative about Trump. The fact they did it for John Bolton really shows how hypocritical.

Also does anybody a good resource about how alot of the ballots that showed up in the middle of the night only impacted the presidential races and not the congressional ones.
FOX specializes in creating fake contention against itself. I really don't understand why people haven't picked up on the pattern, by now. How many shows has FOX cancelled only to put back on the air and in the very first episode they shit all over the network for cancelling them in the first place? I'm sure that Tucker rails against FOX and its executives all the time on his show, and says all of these things that he's "not supposed to say", but do you think that's real, or is it just a marketing trick to make it seem like Tucker's being more genuine by pretending to "defy the masters?"

The fact that Tucker could have made an effort to contact Dominion and have one of their representatives on his show, but instead chose to lay Powell in the crosshairs, demand that his show--and by extension Paul Ryan and Donna Brazile's FOX--be given preemptive access to evidence before it can reach the courts is explicitly one of the reasons why I never tag along behind what Tucker Carlson is doing or saying. He may be given an extraordinary amount of leniency in what he's allowed to say on his show, but if FOX says jump, up he goes.

What benefit would that serve for Powell, though? Why would a lawyer go on a TV show and throw all of their evidence across the table, giving the defense a chance to pore it over, prepare their case, and possibly destroy any evidence involved with Powell's case before it can be locked under a subpoena? There's a hundred other things that Tucker Carlson could have done and a thousand different ways to have presented them, and instead he leveled a gun at Powell's credibility and tried to pull the trigger.

People really need to learn that you can't trust a journalist, no matter who they are. All of them have an agenda; none of them are worth idolizing.
 
No. Because you and I know that it isn't going to stop there.

At best, we'd have an Augustus situation where the emperor tries to keep the trappings of the old Republic, but de facto ruling as a dictator. It is likely to transition into an elective monarchy. At worst, we will see a massive civil war that will shake up the world order, and not in a good way. In both cases, the America as we know it will be gone forever.
America died on November 4th 2020 for me, now we in the stage where who is bold enough to rape the corpse.

My poison is Trump staying in power versus Biden and his globalist cabal running the show.
 
I'm only rating you optimistic because I think you're missing something important. The media outlets as they are now serve another, infinitely more useful purpose: as propaganda machines. It's why newspaper tycoons of old were hugely influential, why Bezos bought himself the Washington Post.

If you think for a minute that these platforms won't be subsidised by money funneled in from elsewhere, well, I daresay you have a far more optimistic take on the current media landscape than I do.
They can't be funded from the government without alienating progressives. I suppose a billionaire could keep them afloat by pumping money into them but that would have limits because you could probably just set the damn money on fire.

Even if they are propped up that would just make them the equivalent of PBS. When was the last time you watched PBS?

(Probably quite a few of you have watched PBS recently because autism.)

My point being that the decline in quality and blatent bias will just cause people to walk away.
 
What gets me is the asshole judge came back out of retirement once a year just to force it to be extended forever. He did this up until the day he fucking died. Just to make it so that the GOP had to eat shit if the DNC stole an election. Why? Because MUH BWAKS.

What's the immediate thing they're screaming about Wayne County?

WON'T YOU THINK OF MUH BWAKS?!
Given how Trump had record minority turnout, even from Black men and women. And there was also talk of even blacks voting Republican in the urban areas who votes might have been either not counted or changed by the poll workers. I believe the nigger's days of crying for gibs are coming to an end. Prop 16 got heavily nuked from orbit in California as it was designed to help niggers, who are like 3 percent of California now. Looking at how salty were the rich niggers at Trump's turnout, it looks like their days are coming to an end as the new Hispanics and other groups don't have the white guilt factor and will crush the niggers mercilessly once whitey loses his power.
 
They can't be funded from the government without alienating progressives. I suppose a billionaire could keep them afloat by pumping money into them but that would have limits because you could probably just set the damn money on fire.

Even if they are propped up that would just make them the equivalent of PBS. When was the last time you watched PBS?

(Probably quite a few of you have watched PBS recently because autism.)

My point being that the decline in quality and blatent bias will just cause people to walk away.
You think "progressives" care? That's cute.

They will justify literally anything if it benefits them. They have no standards. None. They do not give two flying fucks about anything that isn't winning.
 
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