Lolcow Andrew Peter Carlson / Anaiah Carlson / Tamarlover / Xtamarlover - Jewish/Christian Wannabe Cult Leader, Stalker, Ugly af, dogfucker, mayor of spitsville

They may have the right to "choose" in the way that someone has the right to choose whether they are going to murder or rape someone. As in they have a right to make that choice, but if they make that choice, they deserve to be killed because of how evil they are.


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I acknowledge that my two points of view seem contradictory and may in fact be contradictory. I did realize that I was typing the second point.

However here's my answer: it is not wrong to make yourself be afraid, while it is wrong to kill yourself. therefore, if someone influences you in a way that encourages you to be afraid, that's not the same as encouraging you to kill yourself. they are objectively very different things ethically. That being said, I do agree with the general principle that you should not cause people undeserved suffering. So if I know someone is in genuine terror over certain actions, I may be in the wrong to do those actions. In which case, then, I have to figure out as least a terrifying way as possible to do those things. But if they are still terrorized after I do my best to diminish the terror of my actions, then I can't be to blame when I went out of my to try to make my actions as sinisterless as possible.

People are usually responsible for their own actions, and they are sometimes partially responsible for other people's reactions, You can't really do a universal statement because there are valid exceptions in these things. A case where you aren't really responsible for your actions would be if you turn the key to your car to turn on your car, and unbeknownst to you, someone had wired a bomb to your car, whereby you turning the key to start your car sets off the bomb and kills everyone in your car instantly. While you caused the action, you were in total ignorance, and your ignorance as justified and not your fault and not your responsibility. For this reason, your actions you were not responsible for in that instance. And likewise, for other people, we are usually responsible for how people react to what we do, but not always. For example, if you do something good and right, but the person gets angry because they are in general a very angry person, you cannot be held responsible. Even though your action contributed to their anger, it wasn't your "fault". So I would make a distinction between actions you contributed to and are at fault for and actions you contributed to and are not at fault for. The differentiating basis is intent. if your intent is to hurt and harm without justification, then yes you are at fault. But if your intent is to do something good, and unintentionally the person takes it the wrong way, you may not be at fault, depending on the nature of your nonintended harm that you caused. if its something which you should have known better, then you are still at fault even though you didn't intend it.

It may be true that i am in the wrong to knowingly do something that is likely to cause someone to feel terror. But regardless, my goal and intention is that they won't feel terror, but if they do, I won't feel too bad about it, because of the "terror" they caused me in the first place.



Double standards apply to all people groups irrespective of their religions, though some of course are far worse than others. I try to avoid double standards and I usually do a good job of it in most other topics, but perhaps in issues of more personal pain to me, I may have double standards, particularly when it comes to women. The good news though is I proudly proclaim that I am not righteous and not saved as of yet, so I deprive myself of the most obnoxious aspect of double standards and that is the double standard of painting oneself as without error. you can look at this thread earlier, where I grapple back and forth over how wrong I was to treat tamar the way I did, over which things I may be justified to have done, and which things I definitely think i was in the wrong about and went too far, and which things are more blurry for me and unclear. At least in the moment, I think I am in the right and justified, but it may come to pass after my ex girlfriend finds out what Ive done, that i may realize once again i went too far and I was in the wrong. I many times I acknowledge I was wrong, far more often than most religious people. I have great ability to change my views based on evidence. keep in mind other peoples opinions and ethical arguments don't qualify as evidence, they are just counter assertions. Though a well argued ethical argument may make me think long and hard and could constitute evidence. But simple assertions I am wrong don't qualify as evidence in and of themselves so they don't do much for me without the backing of a forceful compelling argument that I simply cannot refute and I have to acknowledge is true to be consistent with my values.


Wanting to be reconciled with my ex girlfriend isn't the sin of lust or coveting that Jesus spoke of. But I have always maintained my primary weakness and moral flaw is my lust for women. and that it is one of the primary things that makes me unrighteous and not saved as of this time. You may think I'm just saying this, but i have abundance of evidence that I have consistently made this claim over the last 10 years and not once in the last 10 years have I ever claimed to be saved and instead have always claimed I am damned and hellbound due to my sin issues in my life.

My ex girlfriend won't fuck my family's life. maybe just mine. so be it if that happens. its worth it to me.


like once every 1-2 years I try to reach out to her but she's always nasty to me and lashes out at me and usually blocks me after rebuking me. So I pretty much give up on it. With Lyndsey I have compelling reason to believe she has paranoid schizophrenia. because of her truly total and utter lack of mental stability, I don't find it useful or beneficial to keep reaching out to her. But even so, I may still try to reach out to her someday when she's in a nursing home or something. We will see. I used to check on her facebook page often, but she basically made her facebook page offline for a long time, and since then I haven't bothered to keep checking up on her. plus even when i do see her fb page, there's nothing there usually. So there's just not much to look for her, and its just a waste of time to even bother with her. I also feel nothing for her anymore. She means nothing to me. Maybe deep deep down inside there's still some pain she caused me and i still care about her, but in the most practical and conscious sense of it, she means nothing to me and I feel nothing for her. still fantasize about her on a very rare occasion though.



I already have a plan of what to do if a guy was to ever try to rape me. basically i would be tried for murder or horrific assault if my claim of self defense wasn't accept. unlikely scenario to experience a gang rape. If that happens, then I'll just kill them in their sleep or after I get out of jail I'll hunt them down and kill them one by one.



I know you asked someone else, but MGTOW is absurd. Maybe a few aspects of it are valuable, but most of it is crazy stuff. I would never separate myself from women. MGTOW is all about you don't need a woman to be happy. While I agree with that, in practice, and in my true heart of hearts, I desperately need and want a woman to be happy and I will never give up that desire. So i'll never be a mgtow. mgtows are losers.



You mean in the far distant future? No I wouldn't be happy for her so long as she refuses to speak with me. I would be partially happy for her but partially angry at her. Because its mixed, and my anger against her would override my happiness for her, I would say overall, no. But i'd probably keep that to myself. But if she and i were on speaking terms again then that's a totally different story. I'd be far more optimistic and happy about her having a happy marriage.



Yes you can count on it that by the end of the PO i will definitely have already broken it, and how many times, no one will know.



Except Russell says that about women that are complete strangers to him or clearly are not interested in him, including celebrities like taylor swift. Whereas for me I've said it to only people ive been in very close or intimate relationships with, 1.ex wife (aka ex sexual partner that I was in a committed relationship with) 2.former friend (who at one point expressed strong interest in the possibility of pursuing marriage with me), and 3.ex girlfriend in a 15 month deeply personal and committed relationship.

I agree with you that MGTOW are losers, but only because they are MSTOW or Men Sent their Own Way. If you look at any MGTOWs in real life or on their youtube channels they are all balding, ugly, stupid, poor losers that women wouldn't want anyways. They just use MGTOW to cope and pretend they are voluntarily going their own way, when in relaity women never wanted them because of their subhuman genetics. If you dont believe me, google "Neo Nazi Tinder Experiment" or "Pedophile Tinder Experiment". Inb4 Tinder isnt real life. Ted Bundy, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin were all coveted by many women due to their looks and status.

Everything else you said is horrifying. Could you give me Lindsey's cell? I want to say hi and become friends with her.
 
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Except Russell says that about women that are complete strangers to him or clearly are not interested in him, including celebrities like taylor swift. Whereas for me I've said it to only people ive been in very close or intimate relationships with, 1.ex wife (aka ex sexual partner that I was in a committed relationship with) 2.former friend (who at one point expressed strong interest in the possibility of pursuing marriage with me), and 3.ex girlfriend in a 15 month deeply personal and committed relationship.
If they told you to fuck off, they're as good as strangers to you. You can't even pin this on autism because all of us and the US government have told you that you need to give up your ridiculous Love Quest with these women who hate you. It's not like you don't know they hate you, it's been entered into the legal record. You're a lolcow because you pretend like this is ambiguous and continue to let it run your life.
 
I agree with you that MGTOW are losers, but only because they are MSTOW or Men Sent their Own Way. If you look at any MGTOWs in real life or on their youtube channels they are all balding, ugly, stupid, poor losers that women wouldn't want anyways. They just use MGTOW to cope and pretend they are voluntarily going their own way, when in relaity women never wanted them because of their subhuman genetics. If you dont believe me, google "Neo Nazi Tinder Experiment" or "Pedophile Tinder Experiment". Inb4 Tinder isnt real life. Ted Bundy, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin were all coveted by many women due to their looks and status.

Everything else you said is horrifying. Could you give me Lindsey's cell? I want to say hi and become friends with her.
she changed her number years ago and since then I've not known her number. Its better that way.
If they told you to fuck off, they're as good as strangers to you. You can't even pin this on autism because all of us and the US government have told you that you need to give up your ridiculous Love Quest with these women who hate you. It's not like you don't know they hate you, it's been entered into the legal record. You're a lolcow because you pretend like this is ambiguous and continue to let it run your life.
I don't blame it on autism. It is my choice and I take full responsibility if I am in the wrong for it on judgment day or in jail if such judgment happens in this lifetime. In fact I would be offended if anyone tried to insinuate that my life choices are due to my autism as that tries to rob me of my core values. I own all my actions for better or worse. It is who I choose to be and not me being a victim of some mental illness that makes me do anything. It is my own choices and nothing can take that away from me.
 
Wanting to be reconciled with my ex girlfriend isn't the sin of lust or coveting that Jesus spoke of. But I have always maintained my primary weakness and moral flaw is my lust for women. and that it is one of the primary things that makes me unrighteous and not saved as of this time. You may think I'm just saying this, but i have abundance of evidence that I have consistently made this claim over the last 10 years and not once in the last 10 years have I ever claimed to be saved and instead have always claimed I am damned and hellbound due to my sin issues in my life.
Lust isn't always the thing involving boners. You want to possess your ex. You want her to be yours, and you want to control her. This is lust and it's a far more unhealthy thing than looking at someone a certain way

My ex girlfriend won't fuck my family's life. maybe just mine. so be it if that happens. its worth it to me.
No, you are fucking up your own life and your family's life. You think your fam wants you to be a stalker with criminal convictions? How do they feel about your actions? You're not only risking your career with criminal convictions but if you continue on with this you're going to have a red flag that will put off any other woman wanting you for good. At best you'd have a fat tumblrite who gets off to serial killers. But as for everyone else? Prepare to spend the rest of your life alone permanently

like once every 1-2 years I try to reach out to her but she's always nasty to me and lashes out at me and usually blocks me after rebuking me. So I pretty much give up on it. With Lyndsey I have compelling reason to believe she has paranoid schizophrenia.

because of her truly total and utter lack of mental stability, I don't find it useful or beneficial to keep reaching out to her. But even so, I may still try to reach out to her someday when she's in a nursing home or something. We will see. I used to check on her facebook page often, but she basically made her facebook page offline for a long time, and since then I haven't bothered to keep checking up on her. plus even when i do see her fb page, there's nothing there usually. So there's just not much to look for her, and its just a waste of time to even bother with her. I also feel nothing for her anymore. She means nothing to me. Maybe deep deep down inside there's still some pain she caused me and i still care about her, but in the most practical and conscious sense of it, she means nothing to me and I feel nothing for her. still fantasize about her on a very rare occasion though.
Good! Move on!
 
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Lust isn't always the thing involving boners. You want to possess your ex. You want her to be yours, and you want to control her. This is lust and it's a far more unhealthy thing than looking at someone a certain way


No, you are fucking up your own life and your family's life. You think your fam wants you to be a stalker with criminal convictions? How do they feel about your actions? You're not only risking your career with criminal convictions but if you continue on with this you're going to have a red flag that will put off any other woman wanting you for good. At best you'd have a fat tumblrite who gets off to serial killers. But as for everyone else? Prepare to spend the rest of your life alone permanently




Good! Move on!
to be clear Lyndsey isn't my ex girlfriend. different person.
 
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My fucking oath, lads. He's off his chops. The lustful malignancy can no longer be contained. He's gloating in his depravity. He's probably far more broken than Russell Greer.
 
Remember we already established, long before, me being the mayor of spitsville.
Edomite, your writhing whimpering mouth bout to be an orifice for Black Israelite penile virility.

You just said people who abandon you are evil. You gloated about terror being applied to them. You are a selfish sophist and a delusional man-child. Eventually, unfortunately, your insolence will be punished.
 
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If someone wants someone else enough, they are owed their affection?
After all, how deserving one feels is purely a matter of imagination. One can easily construe oneself to be deserving of whatever one wishes, given enough mental gymnastics. As such, any person could consider themselves deserving of any other person. Is therefore any other person obligated to have a relationship with someone, once that person feels they deserve it enough? What criteria do you base this obligation on and how can they ever be objective? If they are subjective to you, then why should anyone outside yourself be beholden to them?
I'd still be interested in your take on this. Especially considering:

They may have the right to "choose" in the way that someone has the right to choose whether they are going to murder or rape someone
Perhaps I missed by which less subjective criteria their right of choice is nullified by your personal feelings.
You apply a particular standard to Greer - you say these people are strangers to him (by your criteria) therefore, he is not entitled. Could not your criteria which you have outlined for why you do deserve a particular person's affection, be easily considered null and void in turn.
Because if the determining factor as to where the line is drawn is solely based on previous levels of perceived intimacy (not enough with Greer and Grande in your view, his perception no doubt differs), then again, anyone could justifiably feel entitled to anyone else, if only they consider the previous interactions with that person intimate enough. And consequently, anyone's right to choice is therefore nullified, if another party feels intimately drawn to them.

if someone influences you in a way that encourages you to be afraid, that's not the same as encouraging you to kill yourself
If an influence correlates strongly with precursors to suicide, where does that fall on the line? Stalking in all genders is a strong contributing factor to substance abuse and depression (Davis and Anderson 2002), which are strongly corelated with suicidal tendencies (Overholser et al. 1997, Hawton et al. 2003)


The differentiating basis is intent. if your intent is to hurt and harm without justification, then yes you are at fault. But if your intent is to do something good, and unintentionally the person takes it the wrong way, you may not be at fault, depending on the nature of your nonintended harm that you caused. if its something which you should have known better, then you are still at fault even though you didn't intend it.
What is the positive thing intended in this case that warrants stalking behavior?

If intent is grossly misjudged, do these rules still apply? If one person judges their intentions to be positive by their subjective perception, but that intent is not positive when applying less subjective guidelines, do these rules still apply?

I take full responsibility if I am in the wrong for it on judgment day or in jail if such judgment happens in this lifetime
Huh. This is an approach to morality that is rather foreign to me (and I mean that in a factual way, not a condescending one). Is a crime acceptable if one is also willing to accept the potential punishment? In my view, this is a nonsensical idea.
The punishment only exists as a deterrent, the acceptance of the potential punishment in no way justifies the crime in and of itself. If one inflicts harm upon another, whether one is punished for it or not, that harm was still inflicted. The harm inflicted is not undone. As such, the stance of the perpetrator towards the punishment / judgement is completely irrelevant.


Davis, K. E., Coker, A. L., & Sanderson, M. (2002). Physical and mental health effects of being stalked for men and women. Violence and Victims, 17(4), 429-443.
Overholser, J. C., Freiheit, S. R., & DiFilippo, J. M. (1997). Emotional distress and substance abuse as risk factors for suicide attempts. The Canadian journal of psychiatry, 42(4), 402-408.
Hawton, K., i Comabella, C. C., Haw, C., & Saunders, K. (2013). Risk factors for suicide in individuals with depression: a systematic review. Journal of affective disorders, 147(1-3), 17-28.
 
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Edomite, your writhing whimpering mouth bout to be an orifice for Black Israelite penile virility.

You just said people who abandon you are evil. You gloated about terror being applied to them. You are a selfish sophist and a delusional man-child. Eventually, unfortunately, your insolence will be punished.
You know I don't think threats really sink in with this guy. He's delusional enough to think he can kung fu his way out of it

Why not hit him where it hurts? Block Andrew from the Mel thread. As autistic as Mel is Andrews been watching it and getting some narc supply from the lulz

I'd he's going to be a psycho why cater to him?

Edit: in fact, what if his top secret plan was to egg this ex into coming here post a bunch of emails so he can see another Mel thread. He's been enjoying mels chimp outs who's to say he isn't trying to pull the same trick twice?
 
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You know I don't think threats really sink in with this guy. He's delusional enough to think he can kung fu his way out of it

Why not hit him where it hurts? Block Andrew from the Mel thread. As autistic as Mel is Andrews been watching it and getting some narc supply from the lulz

I'd he's going to be a psycho why cater to him?

Edit: in fact, what if his top secret plan was to egg this ex into coming here post a bunch of emails so he can see another Mel thread. He's been enjoying mels chimp outs who's to say he isn't trying to pull the same trick twice?
I feel you, I'm sure you recognise my dumb Larping. As for blocking Andrew from that thread, I don't know if any mod would block him as all he's doing is lurking and occasionally revenge rating. Andrew....likes to watch, y'see. He typically stays within the confines of legality but his craziness and delusion still simmers away.
 
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I feel you, I'm sure you recognise my dumb Larping. As for blocking Andrew from that thread, I don't know if any mod would block him as all he's doing is lurking and occasionally revenge rating. Andrew....likes to watch, y'see. He typically stays within the confines of legality but his craziness and delusion still simmers away.
Only way to make me unable to read the thread is to make it a private thread.
 
You know I don't think threats really sink in with this guy. He's delusional enough to think he can kung fu his way out of it

Why not hit him where it hurts? Block Andrew from the Mel thread. As autistic as Mel is Andrews been watching it and getting some narc supply from the lulz

I'd he's going to be a psycho why cater to him?

Edit: in fact, what if his top secret plan was to egg this ex into coming here post a bunch of emails so he can see another Mel thread. He's been enjoying mels chimp outs who's to say he isn't trying to pull the same trick twice?
He's already banned from posting in it. We can't ban him from reading it.
 
You know I don't think threats really sink in with this guy. He's delusional enough to think he can kung fu his way out of it

Why not hit him where it hurts? Block Andrew from the Mel thread. As autistic as Mel is Andrews been watching it and getting some narc supply from the lulz

I'd he's going to be a psycho why cater to him?

Edit: in fact, what if his top secret plan was to egg this ex into coming here post a bunch of emails so he can see another Mel thread. He's been enjoying mels chimp outs who's to say he isn't trying to pull the same trick twice?
Mel could always just.... not post. If she wasn’t addicted to being the sub and getting off to being wrong all the time as people humiliate her online. Notice, Mel hasn’t posted much and amazingly. Her thread has stopped advancing 50 pages per hour. Funny how that works.

Andrew seemed to piss himself when FBI had a few questions. As of right now he’s just a weird creep online with a distorted view of human relationships. At least he’s blatantly honest about it. I don’t think he has a master plan of bringing all his exes to the farms. Mel only came here after people tried to help her. And the screeching began.
 
Mel could always just.... not post. If she wasn’t addicted to being the sub and getting off to being wrong all the time as people humiliate her online. Notice, Mel hasn’t posted much and amazingly. Her thread has stopped advancing 50 pages per hour. Funny how that works.

Andrew seemed to piss himself when FBI had a few questions. As of right now he’s just a weird creep online with a distorted view of human relationships. At least he’s blatantly honest about it. I don’t think he has a master plan of bringing all his exes to the farms. Mel only came here after people tried to help her. And the screeching began.
Andrew is a stalker, and stalkers are threats. He thinks his feeling are so justified he is above the law.
 
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You know how you stalked a guy and followed him to his college? What were your intentions?

Did you want to shove your tongue deep into his man-cunt and have him tighten, then relax, then tighten his shit hole around your tongue? Did you smell his boipussy and fuck it?

Im going to migrate all my sexual autism over to your thread now that I've been banned from Melinda's.
 
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