2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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No there's not. if you could manufacture paper votes to match manipulated electronic tallies, there's no need to switch the electronic tallies in the first place, retard. This is elementary stuff.

I'm not responding to this quote in particular but to you in general. Yes, you have a valid point that even if the electronic counter was rigged that the paper trail would be able to correct it. I would like you to consider that Barnes https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author who I think should be considered respectable witnessed a fair few perfectly crisp ballots with a biden bubble only.

When you add that into the mix with other sources some of which you may regard as unreliable reporting impropriety with the recount I think you should be reticent to entirely dismiss the dominion claim.

FWIW I'm highly skeptical about this dominion thing bearing fruit (like 10% chance). I'm 98% confident that there was widespread fraud and it altered the outcome of the election, but my best guess is that it was through ballot harvesting followed by ballot stuffing. I'm currently waiting on news from Wisconsin as that should fill in some blanks regarding voter fraud.
 
i can see the dems are fighting a revote.

looks like biden regret is real
I've said it before but a revote is the last thing they want. Safeguards and closer scrutiny mean they can't cheat, pissed off Trump voters will be even more motivated to come out and vote, Biden voters (the actual Biden voters) will be less motivated now that the mask has come off and if there were even enough actual Biden voters in the first place then they wouldn't have needed to cheat.
 
I'm sad that I missed this early-morning conversation as I'm still getting caught up, but I did want to poke my nose in and discuss the 1984-Brave New World parallels again for a moment. Pre-2016, I had really thought that we were headed for Brave New World territory, and I think it's very alarming that the Dems have this "return to normalcy", bring back Obama-era complacency as their M.O., complete with more war in the Middle East. I had posted this comparison in the Riots thread many months ago, and I still think it's true:

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I can't stop thinking about the "You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy" tagline of the Great Reset, and I think if Biden secures the win, we are heading full-throttle to the Brave New World scenario, with a nice touch of 1984 Big Brother big tech watching you from your phone, smart TV, and fucking car dashboard. The economic crash that's coming, combined with endless lockdowns and unconstitutional mask mandates, will have people begging for the supposedly benevolent government to take all of the decision making out of their hands. Can Trump stop it? I don't know, but I don't want to find out what happens when Harris, I mean Biden, takes the reins.

By the way, Brave New World is public domain and can be found for free on Project Gutenberg. It's quite good and recommended reading for anyone who's sick of 1984 comparisons.
People fear the one they know, and there have been (and are) 1984-style societies, but a Brave New World-style one has never been seen and is entirely new..
 
Stop dude. I'm a Trump voter and you guys are embarrasing. If you look at the other claims, they mostly come down to pure conjecture. There's nothing there that will flip the result.

The Trump team is hanging their hat on the Dominion nonsense, and it's going to get laughed out of court.
Former Trump supporter here.
 
Well it’s going to be awhile since it is a much more thorough process they are doing



I hate calling other people shills but Jesus Christ this is the most classic shill tactic ever “I’m just like you guys so believe my nonsense cause I’m one of you”

Also can you come up with anything new cause your posts are literally low effort that has been said by others.

I'm not a shill, I only look like a shill to someone that can't examine the plausibility of these claims for 5 minutes and see that they don't add up.

If you can't own up to basic facts then I'll have to repeat those basic facts until they worm their way into your fact resistant narrative.
 
They're not dipshit. The voter fills out a ballot and passes it through the machine. I used one myself.

Where are you people getting this shit.
From Dominion's own instruction manual.
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No there's not. if you could manufacture paper votes to match manipulated electronic tallies, there's no need to switch the electronic tallies in the first place, retard. This is elementary stuff.

Lolwut

Zero sense made

As is usual with shouting

Again this is very simple

You cant know ahead of time how many legitimate votes are going to be cast

Like say if one candidate significantly outperforms expectations like Dromald Plonpf did

This is not about what actually happened it's about you screeching DIS INCONCEIVABLE when it's easily conceivable. What a spergy rabbit hole you're at the bottom of screeching about other rabbit holes
 
From Dominion's own instruction manual.
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Read the item above. The paper ballot are scanned and an image is kept in the system, an image of the ballot that the voter filled out by hand. Do you get it? The paper ballots are still available for a hand recount.

These machines are used in my state, I've used them. You idiots don't know what you're talking about.

Lolwut

Zero sense made

As is usual with shouting

Again this is very simple

You cant know ahead of time how many legitimate votes are going to be cast

Like say if one candidate significantly outperforms expectations like Dromald Plonpf did

This is not about what actually happened it's about you screeching DIS INCONCEIVABLE when it's easily conceivable. What a spergy rabbit hole you're at the bottom of screeching about other rabbit holes

Are you drunk dude?
 
They're not dipshit. The voter fills out a ballot and passes it through the machine. I used one myself.

Where are you people getting this shit.
The voter fills out a ballot on a touch screen and then prints out a paper copy. That paper copy is still a record of what the machine did. If the machine changes Trump votes to Biden and the voter prints it out it's still a record of what the machine did, not what the voter personally did or intended to do

A machine that actually prints out ballots is already highly suspect.
 
I've said it before but a revote is the last thing they want. Safeguards and closer scrutiny mean they can't cheat, pissed off Trump voters will be even more motivated to come out and vote, Biden voters (the actual Biden voters) will be less motivated now that the mask has come off and if there were even enough actual Biden voters in the first place then they wouldn't have needed to cheat.

No no no, let them beg for it. They most likely won't get it but it'd be a twist that would make Shyamalan blush.
Have you not seen what their "DON'T CARE HOW I WANT IT NOW" mentality has gotten them? More than they thought, less than what they started with. Give them more shovels to dig their own graves and unearth what tomfuckery lies at the bottom that is 2020.
 
My God. If Trump wins this by getting all three of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania but doesn't salvage Georgia... then the world is going to flip upside down. If Trump wins this way, he has to make sure that every last resource he has is pumped into turning Georgia red again—at least for the Run-offs.
He would need to ensure that most of the current Georgia GOP leadership is run out of town on a rail.

I'm OK with this.
 
^ As above, so below.

Seriously, as others mentioned before, he's the guy that pulled this stunt:


(Long story short, he installed on the Oval Office a bring red button he plays with while negotiating just to intimidate his adversaries. If pressed the button sends a message to the buttlers to get him a coke. Yes he is that childish, and it is amazing.)

Yes, Trump is the avatar of chaos. He's the living fucking embodyment of the american spirit: ultrapatriotic, egotistical, childish and absolutely sick of everyone's shit to the umptieth degree. He feeds off of the suffering of the neoliberals and he shits out pure, undiluted populism. He's like an avatar of change, surrounded by an aura that unveils the rot in society's core wherever he goes, driving the weak to madness and the strong to unyielding rage. He is the god of our world and he has come for all of us.

Or leaving aside the metaphors and exaggerations. Trump's absolutely AMAZING at dismantling the bullshit that has built up over the years. And by god, there was a lotta bullshit to dismantle.

Neolibs and Neocons have been lulling the west into a carefully built soft power based multinational system, carefully constructing a web of favors, regulations, masked dependencies and socioeconomic flows nearly designed to ensure the death of morality. The erradication of true politics, of passion and patriotism, and of anything that would be considered unsavory by their masters. Since the cold war it's devolved into a spiral of intrigue and economic transformations. They did a great job building castles out of air, and ensuring the new dynasties could be kept afloat through control of the global market. Add a tax loophole there, break a country's economy by forcing a trade deal over here, keep out a rival business by planting a protectionist measure over there... Toothpick after toothpick they have covered our world in superstructures impossible to defeat by regular means.

And just when Obama had managed to break the USA and was about to enslave the EU by extending the TPP to us. Just at the very precipice when all those plans were coming to the horrifying conclussion of leaving the whole world's economy irrevocably linked to china and tied to trade deals too big to dismantle without societal unrest mounting up to unsurmountable degrees, exactly the same month talks between the USA ambassador and Rajoi's economic minister were coming to their conclussion.

Trump got elected and he went "nah fuck that" and just erased the TPP in one fell swoop.

They said he was insane. They said he would kill the USA. They said no sane person would ever do such a thing.

But he was not a sane person. He was Donald. Motherfucking. Trump. And he knew damned well what he had to do.

And since then he has done nothing but repeat that feat over and over again. He has carefuly selected the toothpicks that would cause the most superstructure destruction with the least backlash and he has carelessly and bombastically anounced he would burn them to the ground one after the next, forcing the multinational powers to bend or break on his wake.

He really has done nothing but destroy since he was elected. And by god what a beautiful destruction it has been. Wish we had more like him over here in europoor land.
After reading this, I have a hard time believing that he will let Joe Biden get anywhere close to the White House and I hope that his "do the right thing" was just his way of saying "We getting a second term one way or the other".
 
The voter fills out a ballot on a touch screen and then prints out a paper copy. That paper copy is still a record of what the machine did. If the machine changes Trump votes to Biden and the voter prints it out it's still a record of what the machine did, not what the voter personally did or intended to do

A machine that actually prints out ballots is already highly suspect.
No that's not how it works.

The paper ballot is in human readable form and tells you exactly what votes were recorded.

Here's a demonstration:


Again, if the votes that are recorded in plain English on the ballots differ from the electronic tallies (by hundreds of thousands), a hand recount would find that huge discrepancy.
 
The fact that people are pretending that Trump has an obligation to help transition now is fucking hilarious.

If you believe that November 2016 Obama was doing anything for the transition but setting a Rube Goldberg trap with the intelligence communities to undermine everything Trump would do, then you’re a moron beyond redemption.

Just look at their press meeting where they were sitting in the chairs, Obama has that "If only you knew how bad things really are" look on his face, the same dude that got on national TV and smugly said "Well Mr. Trump at least I will actually be United States President" and had to eat so much crow he almost mistook it for Thanksgiving dinner. Obama and company didn't give two fucks, they just wanted to lower their heads and run from the shame of the whole affair.

It's like authoritarians and left-wingers (but I repeat myself) just do not grasp that people simply don't trust the government and its agents.

There's that and they don't want to grasp it, for many of them especially the atheistic types (the more fedora lord ones) they've simply left behind the God of Abraham and swapped him out for the Government.

How can you not love God? I mean the government, it provides you with gibs and keeps you safe and secure. The more they pulled away from religion the more they simply ran back into it's arms just in a different way. Not to say religion doesn't have its faults and is perfect but it's funny watching how they've mirrored the religious right of the old days with their levels of puritanism while in some ways being oblivious to it.
 
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