Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

Yes, they did. But it was seen as uncouth by the 19th century. Eventually, Americans came to realize that marrying off teenager girls wasn't good for their development and health, thus we stopped doing it.

My nation's Founding Fathers also lived in a world where chattel slavery was the norm and even practiced it. It took 87 years but after much strife and the bloodiest war in my nation's history we eradicated the institution of slavery. You wouldn't want to ask for the return of American chattel slavery today.

And if they really thought paedophilia wasn't a problem then they wouldn't have recommended a death penalty for people bonking children 7 years and younger for Delaware.

I have to tell you though, engage him long enough and he will say you are concern trolling and wasting his time.
 
Yes, they did. But it was seen as uncouth by the 19th century. Eventually, Americans came to realize that marrying off teenager girls wasn't good for their development and health, thus we stopped doing it.
Yes and then they discovered that teenage casual sex (free love circa 1960) was good and women should enter the workforce, be paid equal like a man and die as a childless crazy cat lady.
Real success story.

My nation's Founding Fathers also lived in a world where chattel slavery was the norm and even practiced it. It took 87 years but after much strife and the bloodiest war in my nation's history we eradicated the institution of slavery. You wouldn't want to ask for the return of American chattel slavery today.
You still have slavery today, you just call it undocumented workers and guest workers or export it overseas e.g. sweatshops.
 
Yes and then they discovered that teenage casual sex (free love circa 1960) was good and women should enter the workforce, be paid equal like a man and die as a childless crazy cat lady.
Real success story.


You still have slavery today, you just call it undocumented workers and guest workers or export it overseas e.g. sweatshops.
lol but those aren't people.
 
Yes and then they discovered that teenage casual sex (free love circa 1960) was good and women should enter the workforce, be paid equal like a man and die as a childless crazy cat lady.
Real success story.


You still have slavery today, you just call it undocumented workers and guest workers or export it overseas e.g. sweatshops.
What, pray tell, does your backwards nation have today?

America is far from perfect but it's still better than most nations in existence today. The Baby Boomers are reviled in our nation precisely because their lifestyle encouraged both of those things. They wanted cheap things and easy sex. Now look at the state of things, the younger generations have to piece things back together. It's not just like this in America, this is an issue almost everywhere.

You're arguing that my nation's imperfections are a reflection on my character. Thus, you contend, my argument that wanting to lower the age of consent is tantamount to pedophilia is foolish and backwards.
You're wrong. Americans revile pedophilia, including ephebophapeoelia- or however that retarded word for teen chasers is spelled- for good reason.
It's selfish and predatory. A teenager cannot make informed decisions well. They have agency, but it's nascent and that naiveté shouldn't be taken advantage of by adults. Furthermore, a teenager is nowhere near fully developed. Pregnancy is an immense toll on the body. Why subject an adolescent to that? Why force them to risk mortal injury just so you can get your rocks off?

The fact of the matter is that the age of majority in the United States and many other nations is 18. Wanting to lower it is generally seen as sleazy and predatory behavior. What do you have to gain from lowering the age of consent? Why argue for it? Why can't you successfully attract an adult? Why target adolescents and children?
 
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What, pray tell, does your backwards nation have today?

America is far from perfect but it's still better than most nations in existence today.
1. My ethnic homeland will still exist 100 years from now. America will likely collapse within 20 years and if it doesn't than it'll become some hybrid of Brazil and South Africa.
2. Many nations with qualify of life equal or better than USA, including many Pacific Rim nations. Most of America is unlivable. You cannot even live in most major cities because of the demographics, homeless or drug addicts.

The Baby Boomers are reviled in our nation precisely because their lifestyle encouraged both of those things. They wanted cheap things and easy sex. Now look at the state of things, the younger generations have to piece things back together. It's not just like this in America, this is an issue almost everywhere.
This is /pol/tier historical revisionism. The boomers fought in the 1st culture war. They tried to stop drug usage from being normalized. They stopped gay marriage and forced the homosexuals back into the closet (don't ask don't tell). They got 100% cucked by muh constitution,
As for America, if you go back people were complaining that this nation was getting soft in the 1890s post Manifest Destiny (Colonization). Many problems were already baked-in by the 1920s: alcoholism/prohibition, flappers, 19A, and jazz (Africanization). Things got worst in the 50s and 60s but the nation was already culturally degenerate by the time boomers were born.
If anything it's Gen X that is the real problem. They are limp dicked. 100% emasculated and their libertarianism allowed the woke shit we see today.

You're arguing that my nation's imperfections are a reflection on my character. Thus, you contend, my argument that wanting to lower the age of consent is tantamount to pedophilia is a foolish and backwards.
You're wrong. Americans revile pedophilia, including ephebophapeoelia- or however that retarded word for teen chasers is spelled- for good reason.
It's selfish and predatory. A teenager cannot make informed decisions well. They have agency, bit it's nascent and that naiveté shouldn't be taken advantage of by adults. Furthermore, a teenager is nowhere near fully developed. Preganacy is an immense toll on the body. Why subject an adolescent to that? Why force them to risk mortal injury just so you can get your rocks off?

The fact of the matter is that the age of majority in the United States and many other nations is 18. Wanting to lower it is generally seen as sleazy and predatory behavior. What do you have to gain from lowering the age of consent? Why argue for it? Why can't you successfully attract an adult? Why target adolescents and children?
In a health society, childhood ends at puberty and by middle-school women are told to get married and start a family. Once this, normal human sexuality, becomes uncouth that allows all the feminist degeneracy we see today (equal pay, women in politics and leadership, casual sex, birthrate collapse). You have to put women on a path to marriage at the end of puberty if you want your society to be healthy. You cannot be anti-science and ignore human biology because your social conditioning makes it uncouth.

Most nations simply copied the USA but USA cultural hegemony is failing and I except other nations to change the age of consent and other laws to reflect their culture.
 
1. My ethnic homeland will still exist 100 years from now. America will likely collapse within 20 years and if it doesn't than it'll become some hybrid of Brazil and South Africa.
2. Many nations with qualify of life equal or better than USA, including many Pacific Rim nations. Most of America is unlivable. You cannot even live in most major cities because of the demographics, homeless or drug addicts.


This is /pol/tier historical revisionism. The boomers fought in the 1st culture war. They tried to stop drug usage from being normalized. They stopped gay marriage and forced the homosexuals back into the closet (don't ask don't tell). They got 100% cucked by muh constitution,
As for America, if you go back people were complaining that this nation was getting soft in the 1890s post Manifest Destiny (Colonization). Many problems were already baked-in by the 1920s: alcoholism/prohibition, flappers, 19A, and jazz (Africanization). Things got worst in the 50s and 60s but the nation was already culturally degenerate by the time boomers were born.
If anything it's Gen X that is the real problem. They are limp dicked. 100% emasculated and their libertarianism allowed the woke shit we see today.


In a health society, childhood ends at puberty and by middle-school women are told to get married and start a family. Once this, normal human sexuality, becomes uncouth that allows all the feminist degeneracy we see today (equal pay, women in politics and leadership, casual sex, birthrate collapse). You have to put women on a path to marriage at the end of puberty if you want your society to be healthy. You cannot be anti-science and ignore human biology because your social conditioning makes it uncouth.

Most nations simply copied the USA but USA cultural hegemony is failing and I except other nations to change the age of consent and other laws to reflect their culture.
All these words to support a stance that most find repugnant and untouchable. You never answered my questions, you little gremlin.

Why should an adolescent girl be put into a scenario where they are taken advantage of by an older socially inept man like you? Why should they risk their lives to bear your maladapted children? Why should their mothers and fathers trust men like you with their wellbeing?

Why do you support pedophilia?
 
All these words to support a stance that most find repugnant and untouchable. You never answered my questions, you little gremlin.

Why should an adolescent girl be put into a scenario where they are taken advantage of by an older socially inept man like you? Why should they risk their lives to bear your maladapted children? Why should their mothers and fathers trust men like you with their wellbeing?

Why do you support pedophilia?
Real funny. You live in a society that thinks homophobia is repugnant and racists are untouchable.

Why should an adolescent girls be put into a scenario where they are taken advantage by men? e.g. casual sex in high school, tinder, porn industry, Everything you consider normal today. You're supposed to makes sure you daughter is with a good man.

Also wanting to have sex with girls post puberty is not pedophilia.

Age of consent laws already represent their culture. Do you view Nigeria as a beacon of civilization because it has 11 as the age of consent?
This is a conflation fallacy. Nigeria has other differences from USA, besides age of consent. This is the type of logical fallacy the skeptic community would do. Try harder.
 
This is a conflation fallacy.
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This is a conflation fallacy. Nigeria has other differences from USA, besides age of consent. This is the type of logical fallacy the skeptic community would do. Try harder.
What are your problems with Nigeria? I fully believe Nigeria with its trialist politics and low age of consent is the perfect place on Earth for you @BoxerShorts47. You can even start planning your trip now! Your new home.
 
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