2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Even though I think Mail-In voting is convenient for those who are too lazy to go to the polls, it can come with some potential problems that will make people scratch their heads about the integrity of the Election.
I'm not fully against it, but there's no doubt it can create a mess. (in which we're in right now)
Mail-in voting is fine for those that are extremely elderly and can't go to the polls otherwise, but it has to be strictly managed. Like you have to have a witness sign and ensure that you have a condition that prevents you from going to the polls rather than some generic illness. I'm not agianst mail-in voting either, but there's a reason even countries like India don't use them for voting purposes.
 
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And watch the Dems make universal mail-in voting a national priority.

^That right there's basically what I've been predicting this whole time but less subtly. If Biden gets in, no way he ain't using corona as an excuse to permanently alter voting laws in ways that make it even easier to cheat.

The season finale of 2020 is indeed proving to be a weird one.

Well by the time we started seeing all the corona bollocks people were already predicting 2020 was gonna get us to ww3 somehow. So I guess if october is the second wave and #buildbackbetter takeover and december is ww3 then november being a coup d'etat isn't a bad middle point between the two. Natural escalation patterns you know, gotta keep that dramatic tension rising all throughout! I'm just wating for january 2021 when we finally get the alien invasion, February's gonna have to be lit af to top that!

did PA certify?

Eyeup. Not by unanimity, but it did so.

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from what I know, not yet.

wait what? I quit the livestream after it seemed like a 3-1 certification. Did something change since I'm gone? Oh god DID I MISS THE SALTY COMMENTS?! Someone please tell me that's archived!
 
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Julie Matuzak, horror

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Her and her wife



All 4 canvassers:
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Nah, we’re going to Brazil, not South Africa.
Are whites hunted, culturally erased, and systematically disenfranchised - genocided, basically - in Brazil? Because that is a constant in the west that is not going to go away.
 
As I've stated before, the mess that is this election doesn't make me prioritize a second Trump term (as much as I would like for that to happen, don't get me wrong).

The priority here is to make sure that this shit doesn't happen again in future elections. Sadly, there are far too many spineless people in the GOP to make me have faith that our future elections will be secured ... Even if Trump pulls this off.
 
This is what the US has to say about the Ukrainian elections that was used to declare it a rigged, illegitimate election



"The following are examples of the most egregious, widely observed and reported examples of election-day fraud on November 21:
  • Illegal Use of Absentee Ballots: According to the respected NGO "Committee of Voters of Ukraine" (CVU), massive electoral fraud was committed through the illegal use of absentee voter certificates. For example, people were caught in Dnipropetrovsk and Sumy oblasts with their pockets stuffed with blank absentee ballots that they were using to vote at multiple polling stations.​
  • Opposition Observers Ejected: Observers from Our Ukraine and other opposition groups were expelled from most polling stations in eastern Ukraine on Election Day. For example, in Territorial Election Commission (TEC) district number 42 in Donetsk oblast, Our Ukraine observers were kicked out of all but a few polling stations.​
  • North Korean-Style Turnout in the East: Turnout in the pro-Yanukovych eastern oblasts was unnaturally high. In several electoral districts, turnout for the run-off round increased by 30 to 40 percent over the first round. In Luhansk oblast, the reported turnout rate hit nearly 96 percent -- a number that, to quote the OSCE, even Stalinist North Korea would envy. A similar turnout rate was reported in Donetsk oblast, where 98 percent of the votes went to hometown candidate Prime Minister Yanukovych.​
  • Mobile Ballot Box Fraud: In the second round of the election, the number of voters who supposedly cast ballots at home using mobile ballot boxes was double that of the first round. Much of this voting occurred without observers being present and was massively fraudulent. In Mykolayiv oblast, for example, nearly 35 percent of the oblast's voters purportedly cast their ballots "at home."​
  • Computer Data Allegedly Altered To Favor Yanukovych: There were credible reports showing that that Yanukovych supporters gained illegal access to the Central Election Commission's computer system and illegally altered vote tabulation data being transmitted by TECs to the CEC.​
  • Reports of Opposition Fraud: Yanykovych’s supporters allege that Yushchenko’s supporters stuffed ballot boxes in western Ukraine. But the reports and evidence of pro-Yanukovych fraud greatly outweighed those indicated for Yushchenko."​

Similarities to the 2020 election are not coincidences, these elections don't pass your OWN internetional standards of what a coup should not look like
Can comparisons like these be used effectively in court? It's not direct evidence obviously, but I feel it puts a lot of pressure on the defense and judges since they'd have to rationalize brushing off the fraud in this election but not other foreign elections like the US has been noting for at least the past 20 years.
 
Who gives a fuck about the Middle East, other than neocons and Israel-firsters? Let the hadji idiots blow each other up for being the wrong kind of Muslims, it's no skin off our asses. The world will not miss them.

Easy for you to say since we wasted billions of dollars on that as Americans got their limbs blown off in the process
 
Can comparisons like these be used effectively in court? It's not direct evidence obviously, but I feel it puts a lot of pressure on the defense and judges since they'd have to rationalize brushing off the fraud in this election but not other foreign elections like the US has been noting for at least the past 20 years.

Those weren't the most safe and secure elections ever held though.
 
As I've stated before, the mess that is this election doesn't make me prioritize a second Trump term (as much as I would like for that to happen, don't get me wrong).

The priority here is to make sure that this shit doesn't happen again in future elections. Sadly, there are far too many spineless people in the GOP to make me have faith that our future elections will be secured ... Even if Trump pulls this off.
Hopefully by 2022/2024, this won't be a problem.
 
I got to say, Techpriest following up his adamant assertions that he understands how the US Supreme Court works followed up by him not knowing the difference between a State Supreme Court and the US Supreme Court is my favorite thing to happen in this thread.
No, this was a full Supreme Court case. It was the injunction about late arriving ballots in PA. Supreme Court declined to hear it today.
 
Her's some pause from the current moment.
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Ok that guy was an idiot. Not the judge whoever marked that shit. Do they seriously not explain over there in the US that if you add anything other than the specified required info you "spoil the ballot" (or as it's called in spain, make it a "voto nulo" (null ballot))? I mean hell, here we do that as a sign of protest, I thought everyone knew this shit. Just fill in the fields and don't be snarky unless you don't wanna vote and just wanna be snarky. Either the guys from the Lincoln Project are retards or the USA needs to make some big fucking posters to leave at poll booths with the instructions.
 

When I wrote that it occurred to me it worked either ironically or non ironically depending on how you view democracy.

I've said it before and I'll say it again the Democrats, true to their name, want democracy of the mob rule variant. Republicans want a republic of the 'checks and balances, hardcoded rights, protection for minorities' variant.
 
This is what the US has to say about the Ukrainian elections that was used to declare it a rigged, illegitimate election



"The following are examples of the most egregious, widely observed and reported examples of election-day fraud on November 21:
  • Illegal Use of Absentee Ballots: According to the respected NGO "Committee of Voters of Ukraine" (CVU), massive electoral fraud was committed through the illegal use of absentee voter certificates. For example, people were caught in Dnipropetrovsk and Sumy oblasts with their pockets stuffed with blank absentee ballots that they were using to vote at multiple polling stations.​
  • Opposition Observers Ejected: Observers from Our Ukraine and other opposition groups were expelled from most polling stations in eastern Ukraine on Election Day. For example, in Territorial Election Commission (TEC) district number 42 in Donetsk oblast, Our Ukraine observers were kicked out of all but a few polling stations.​
  • North Korean-Style Turnout in the East: Turnout in the pro-Yanukovych eastern oblasts was unnaturally high. In several electoral districts, turnout for the run-off round increased by 30 to 40 percent over the first round. In Luhansk oblast, the reported turnout rate hit nearly 96 percent -- a number that, to quote the OSCE, even Stalinist North Korea would envy. A similar turnout rate was reported in Donetsk oblast, where 98 percent of the votes went to hometown candidate Prime Minister Yanukovych.​
  • Mobile Ballot Box Fraud: In the second round of the election, the number of voters who supposedly cast ballots at home using mobile ballot boxes was double that of the first round. Much of this voting occurred without observers being present and was massively fraudulent. In Mykolayiv oblast, for example, nearly 35 percent of the oblast's voters purportedly cast their ballots "at home."​
  • Computer Data Allegedly Altered To Favor Yanukovych: There were credible reports showing that that Yanukovych supporters gained illegal access to the Central Election Commission's computer system and illegally altered vote tabulation data being transmitted by TECs to the CEC.​
  • Reports of Opposition Fraud: Yanykovych’s supporters allege that Yushchenko’s supporters stuffed ballot boxes in western Ukraine. But the reports and evidence of pro-Yanukovych fraud greatly outweighed those indicated for Yushchenko."​

Similarities to the 2020 election are not coincidences, this years US elections don't pass their OWN international standards of what a coup should not look like

but somehow magically all of these things happening domestically are not suficient evidences of fraud anymore, for the media, you can have a literal Ukrainian coup election and somehow still there is "no evidence of widespread fraud" pretty funny how that works.

ngl, it's funny as shit our elections are devolving into a literal Third World voting racket while demeaning everyone else for being undemocratic
 
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