2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[HumanHive]

I'd note, using Truthbois good overview, we are mostly exactly where we expected to be. Pennsylvania told a SCOTUS judge to basically go fuck himself, and Michigan is the Ratking throne. Both of these states are directly on track with what was expected.

The only surprise is Gerogia with its certification, and its in the air involving an alleged audit.

Who the fuck knows what Arizona and Nevada are doing.

In short... its kidnda the same holding pattern that should be expected in this stage. Mind, I am not predicting a Trump win so my level of expected isn't the same as some of the more hopeful members here. But the odds I gave him were not terrible either, so it holding to what is expected means its... well, all still waiting for SCOTUS to decide and break the stalemate. One way or another.

Anything that's been certified will not be audited, at least not before the electoral college meets. We'll hear about it two or three years from now, buried on page 5, that oopsie there was in fact fraud.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I think at this point somebody here should drive to Arizona and make sure it's still there cause I haven't shit for ages.

You should... go to a hospital.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Do you truly think nothing will change regarding election laws? Do you really think there's never going to be another successful anti-establishment political movement?

Absolutely, no doubt about it.

 

[Bartleby]

Huh

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Looks like he got pissed about people misconstruing his earlier statement as him conceding, which was a stretch of an interpretation to begin with, especially with how obvious it was in the GSA's letter that their heart wasn't in it at all.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Trump takes the money back from the DNC? Or [prepare your rainbows] Trump is trapping Biden by letting him take federal funds for a fraudulent reason? I mean if election fraud is proven and Biden takes the cash, Barr could technically prosecute Biden for fraud to the tune of millions of dollars? I legit don’t know, I think the former is FAR more likely. The latter would be too hilarious for it to be possible, I mean it is 2020 but come on, man!

Trump had nothing to lose by letting that old senile fuck use federal funds. The media already declared Biden the winner, what was there to lose except feed probably into Biden's ego to see what is the Democrat's next move maybe.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Anything that's been certified will not be audited, at least not before the electoral college meets. We'll hear about it two or three years from now, buried on page 5, that oopsie there was in fact fraud.

The fact that they can just push through a certification and leapfrog over recounts and audits is such bullshit. If anything, this election has proven that our system is weak at stopping or even examining fraud.

 

[Gehenna]

Anything that's been certified will not be audited, at least not before the electoral college meets. We'll hear about it two or three years from now, buried on page 5, that oopsie there was in fact fraud.

Eeeh, I am less sure of that for Georgia specifically.

For Penn. and Mich. Oh god yes.

In fact, generally yes.

I only make an exclusion for Georgia because the only reason its occurring at all is -immense- pressure put on the ones who certified it. The shows at least some chance, maybe even a good one, of an audit changing things in the near rather than far future. Specifically, its internal pressure which is something that isn't gonna happen in any of the other states save -possibly- Arizona, assuming it hasn't fallen into the core of the Earth and nobody noticed.

 

[Kane Lives]

Looks like he got pissed about people misconstruing his earlier statement as him conceding, which was a stretch of an interpretation to begin with, especially with how obvious it was in the the GSA's letter that their heart wasn't in it at all.

The GSA letter reads like "I will oblige you, but consider this a formal record of our disapproval." Note all the caveats they wrote into the start of that letter.

 

[AkAuZtIk]

SC isn't going to crown Trump. Winning three different lawsuits in three different states is not going to happen, I'm afraid. AT BEST, they'll give Trump PA or MI as a pity victory.

The SC also, by virtue of any of it's rulings, doesn't determine what is true or not either. One state being "given" to Trump will be more than enough to galvanize support. Left can't toss out PROVEN fraud and they certainly can't memory hole it after that. If your operating on precedent, then you really shouldn't, as nothing about these cases, or this year in general, has anything to do with past cases during elections brought to SCOTUS.

Also, the more blatant refusals to do the bare minimum required to ensure checks and validated only is going to wake up normies more. They are tired of hearing, as are the majority of support on either side. I don't give a fuck what 9 people say, they aren't the arbiters of reality. "Legaleze" isn't going to get anyone out of half the society taking a massive shit on the cheaters.

So either: A.) Trump wins, we fix this stupid moronic process finally and for good, and punish all those involved all the way from the bottom to up top. -or B.) Biden wins, and Democrats, along with any supporters will have to forever be secret supporters much like Trump's were. Every conversation of political discourse will always end with: "Well Democrats & Biden are cheaters, what do I care what they have to say?" Every debate, every interview, every street podcast/stream, every pollster, etc. etc. - Hell even live heckling will be hilarious.

I'm almost at the exhausted stage myself, where I'm just more inclined to just dare them to win at this point, they are too delusional for any honest debates, and the one's stuck in the middle left, they just childishly fall back to "Well Trump was just hated THAT much!".

 

[wopirish]

How would this turn out?
Because now they are cashing checks their asses can't pay.
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please fucking try it. I dare them to travel two hours out of seattle or portland and see how well that goes. Armed rural folk were watching the roads themselves to keep antifa from burning the forests.

 

[murdered meat bag]

So the current state of things is

Wisconsin: Currently going through a tedious recount and essentially an audit

Michigan: Lawfare + Certified

Pennsylvania: Lawfare + Certified

Georgia: Recount with an actual audit + Certified

Arizona: Who knows

Nevada: Who knows

i think WI is just a recount not an audit since they're doing signature match? maybe?

 

[graham_cracker]

The fact that they can just push through a certification and leapfrog over recounts and audits is such bullshit. If anything, this election has proven that our system is weak at stopping or even examining fraud.

Which is why I am not doomed about nothing happening. Some US state elections have been awful for a while but were less visible due to quick concessions and a lack of mail in ballots. This election, at the very least, illuminated those issues.

The government in general is shit at implementing changes so don't get your hopes up for anything federal though.

 

[Bartleby]

Anything that's been certified will not be audited, at least not before the electoral college meets. We'll hear about it two or three years from now, buried on page 5, that oopsie there was in fact fraud.

Eeeh, I am less sure of that for Georgia specifically.

For Penn. and Mich. Oh god yes.

In fact, generally yes.

I only make an exclusion for Georgia because the only reason its occurring at all is -immense- pressure put on the ones who certified it. The shows at least some chance, maybe even a good one, of an audit changing things in the near rather than far future. Specifically, its internal pressure which is something that isn't gonna happen in any of the other states save -possibly- Arizona, assuming it hasn't fallen into the core of the Earth and nobody noticed.

I thought the consensus before was that certification isn't the end-all-be-all, though? Or are you saying that for PA and MI, they can't be won through an audit but some other remedy if SCOTUS rules favorably?

 

[GuntPunt]

Nevada: Who knows

I'm sorry HK, I just needed to roast Nevada for being the literally worst state in the election.

 

[Gehenna]

Which is why I am not doomed about nothing happening. Some US state elections have been awful for a while but were less visible due to quick concessions and a lack of mail in ballots. This election, at the very least, illuminated those issues.

The government in general is shit at implementing changes so don't get your hopes up for anything federal though.

There -can't- be anything federal. This is what I wish a lot of hopeians and doomers alike would get.

It is, constitutionally, a power given only to state legislatures.

I thought the consensus before was that certification isn't the end-all-be-all, though? Or are you saying that for PA and MI, they won't be won through an audit but some other remedy?

The consensus of doomers and idiots, really.... though that might be harsh.

Certification signals the end of 2 things, the states doing anything (usually, see Georgia) and the chance of it being "States Choose Electors Fuck you".

 

[Kane Lives]

i think WI is just a recount not an audit since they're doing signature match? maybe?

It's an audit. There's already like a few tables worth of challenged ballots in Milwaukee alone.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

i think WI is just a recount not an audit since they're doing signature match? maybe?

signature match is the second best thing to an audit

 

[Random Internet Person]

There be fuckery afoot i tell you Hwhat. Dig in and get ready for the SCOTUS case

Let's hope something good happens.

SC isn't going to crown Trump. Winning three different lawsuits in three different states is not going to happen, I'm afraid. AT BEST, they'll give Trump PA or MI as a pity victory.

The way you say it, you make it sound like Trump is better off conceding that taking all the Ls.

I don't particularly like either party or even have a lot of love for Trump so I may be slightly sober (or naive) when saying this but I really doubt Joe Biden's administration is going to lead to some hellish dystopia with commie lists. In all likelihood it'll probably just be do-nothing neoliberalism with a lot of corporate cock-sucking where if you were doing well during the Obama years you will probably continue doing well and if not, well stagnation at best is what you can look forward to.

The thing about Biden is that he was the course correction. Once his time is done, and the Democrats solidify their grip, they can easily move to pursue their pet project to head to their progressive utopia (and yes, that includes the lists and the purges and the trials and the camps and the seizing of assets). And one reason that they'll easily be able to move toward utopia: They have Kamala Harris ready to fill Biden's shoes, and she's basically AOC but easier to put on a leash.

Anything that's been certified will not be audited, at least not before the electoral college meets. We'll hear about it two or three years from now, buried on page 5, that oopsie there was in fact fraud.

I think that could be one of the worst parts of it. Actually, considering how history is written by the winners, they'll say there wasn't fraud at all and Trump led his last stand to preserve what was left of his tyrannical regime and got fucked harder than Custer.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Apparently Tucker and Trump are best friends now since Trump just retweeted a portion of tonight's broadcast.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Apparently Tucker and Trump are best friends now since Trump just retweeted a portion of tonight's broadcast.

I guess Barnes was right when he said that Powell's performance on Tucker was supposed to be a wake-up call for Trump to cut her loose.