2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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The question is what do the DNC oligarchs actually want, besides power? New wars? Appeasement of China? What about all the woke shit? Will they drop that and purge people like AOC? Will they go for a mandatory buyback of guns or just reintroduce the assault weapons ban and call it done? Will they rig the midterms? Pack the courts?
Power is not a means, it is the end. Welcome to Realpolitik, the world where you honor no flag, no cause, no leader. The only thing that matters is to gain power for yourself and deny it to all others. This is the difference between the street-level Democrats and the Deep State: the plebians actually believe in things like ideals, they have a vision they want to achieve out of a sense of doing the right thing. The Deep State, on the other hand, bears no such delusions. They exists because of and for the sake of only one thing: POWER
 
Biden is not getting 25th'd unless he has a genuinely serious illness. Getting 25th'd means the democrats admit they picked someone who was way too old/incompetent.
Biden just won't run in 2024.
Firstly, depending on how bad Biden's condition is (which must be assumed to be pretty bad since he mostly campaigned from the basement) they might not have a choice. Secondly, you're assuming a political party brazen enough to rig an election this blatantly and get away with it wouldn't also, just as brazenly say 'Whoops, I guess Joe really does have dementia. Kamala is your president'.

They don't even try to hide it. At numerous points they've let it slip that Biden was just there to get Harris over the line and you've got Bill De Blackio's daughter calling Kamala the President and admitting that Biden stole it.
And we'll then get to see just how well the DNC can manufacture a win for their totally charismatic and not at all unpopular Kween Kamala.
You're not really understanding the gravity of what's happened. It doesn't matter if people like Kamala. Popularity is not needed for Kween Kamala. They don't even really need voters to go and vote for Kamala. All that matters to her globalist puppet masters is that she does what they want. Look at Macron. Macron is unpopular as shit. But he does what the globalists want and his election kept Le Pen away from power. They rigged that one, too.
 
The interesting thing will be to see what the likely Biden administration actually governs like. I'm assuming it's going to be some sort of rule by the DNC oligarchy with Biden as a puppet.

The question is what do the DNC oligarchs actually want, besides power? New wars? Appeasement of China? What about all the woke shit? Will they drop that and purge people like AOC? Will they go for a mandatory buyback of guns or just reintroduce the assault weapons ban and call it done? Will they rig the midterms? Pack the courts?

One of the most fascinating things about this is that we've got no idea if the US is in for a breakneck ride into dystopia possibly ending in some sort of showdown with half the country or a rerun of the Obama admin where, to be honest, not a lot got done apart from gay marriage, Obamacare and executive order/executive agency fuckery like Title IX and trannies in the changing room.

And what will the Republican party do? Will it be a bipartisan uniparty regime with dissenters purged? Or will they fight it tooth and nail as Gingrich did?
Honestly, how effective a possible Biden/Harris admin will be depends on if the dems can gain control of the senate. If they can't, then Biden/Harris will just be lameducks from day one, if they can, then we're full speed ahead for the dystopia and eventual showdown you mentioned.
 
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I know I probably sound like a broken record constantly talking about shit Barnes left. But something but I really can't help but think about he often makes about how Trump went into this election alot weaker without people like Roger Stone and Steve Bannon around.

Barnes thinks they would have seen this coming and I can't help but agree.
He literally made an executive order and put the country in a state of emergency, under which this election happened. He totally saw this coming.
 
Power is not a means, it is the end. Welcome to Realpolitik, the world where you honor no flag, no cause, no leader. The only thing that matters is to gain power for yourself and deny it to all others. This is the difference between the street-level Democrats and the Deep State: the plebians actually believe in things like ideals, they have a vision they want to achieve out of a sense of doing the right thing. The Deep State, on the other hand, bears no such delusions. They exists because of and for the sake of only one thing: POWER

Honestly, how effective a possible Biden/Harris admin will be depends on if the dems can gain control of the senate. If they can't, then Biden/Harris will just be lameducks from day one, if they can, then we're full speed ahead for the dystopia and eventual showdown you mentioned.

It wouldn't surprise me if their media lackeys don't push 'A return to normalcy' with Biden stumbling through speeches where he condemns both the far left and the far right which get covered as 'The Best Speech Ever Given By An American Politician'

Like I've said there's a tendency for ideology to drain out of corporate-friendly anocracies.
 
He literally made an executive order and put the country in a state of emergency, under which this election happened. He totally saw this coming.

Ok I fucked up with that original post by missing a really important detail from the point I was bringing up and it was pretty stupid to miss this point.

Beyond just expecting it people like Bannon and Stone are the guys who are willing to get down into the dirt to fight for Trump which is something of a weakspot for trump due how to the way that the establishment handles trump.
 
Beyond just expecting it people like Bannon and Stone are the guys who are willing to get down into the dirt to fight for Trump which is something of a weakspot for trump due how to the way that the establishment handles trump.
I'm not sure this is a problem that can be handled the way Bannon and Stone typically handle things. Trump has always outlined the problem:
1) It's rigged
2) We don't have our people in there
Recent events have shown that Trump is not a crazy person, and that whoever counts the votes is just as, if not more, important than whoever casts them. I dunno what Bannon or Stone would have done to ensure their people get to count the votes
 
Honestly, I am still just trying to figure out how an ~8-9 million increase in the US population lead to a 20+ million vote spike compared to the previous election. The number of eligible voters didn’t spike, the media would be all over reporting that everyday. Can‘t blame Trump for calling fraud, really.

On one of Academic Agent's streams, his buddy mused about 'where the Democrats could possibly have found all these extra voters', and AA said 'Forget it. You're running against the Night King and winter has come' and he was laughing so much he could barely say it.
 
Conspiracy Theorist Sidney Powell was fired from the Trump team after the majority of her theories were proven false.

Luckily President Trump has been asking what should he do and the only person egging him on with the lawsuits is Rudy. Rudy also advised against starting the transfer process. Luckily Trump is allowing the transition to move forward.
 
Honestly, I am still just trying to figure out how an ~8-9 million increase in the US population lead to a 20+ million vote spike compared to the previous election. The number of eligible voters didn’t spike, the media would be all over reporting that everyday. Can‘t blame Trump for calling fraud, really.
1) Increased polarization (non stop TDS, etc) leading to more political engagement on both sides.
2) Everyone bored at home due to the lockdown.
2) Expanded mail in voting, early voting, same day registration. It is now easy to vote.
3) Democrat tricks other than fraud to increase turnout (e.g., ballot harvesting where legal, carpet bombing with unsolicited ballots)
4) Special 4am deliveries of just enough totally legitimate ballots that are 99% Biden and definitely not fraudulent to flip the state.
5) Fraud

I think this is one of the weaker arguments for fraud. Remember all the registration trends that were discussed here before the election? It's fucked up that TDS is so effective at herding the sheep but that doesn't mean it can't work. Trump received more votes than Obama in '08. Specific precincts with 90+ turnout sure, but nationwide? I can believe it.

In terms of circumstantial evidence I find it less plausible that 70M+ people voted for Biden than that turnout increased by <10% after the past four years.

Conspiracy Theorist Sidney Powell was fired from the Trump team after the majority of her theories were proven false.

Luckily President Trump has been asking what should he do and the only person egging him on with the lawsuits is Rudy. Rudy also advised against starting the transfer process. Luckily Trump is allowing the transition to move forward.
She was never on the Trump team. And please -- it's the transition process. Trans rights *uwu*.
 
Conspiracy Theorist Sidney Powell was fired from the Trump team after the majority of her theories were proven false.

Luckily President Trump has been asking what should he do and the only person egging him on with the lawsuits is Rudy. Rudy also advised against starting the transfer process. Luckily Trump is allowing the transition to move forward.
Luckily? Lucky for who - you?
 
Harris is a mercenary and fake as fuck though. She'll do what the DNC wants which is to enact the will of their corporate donors. I really doubt the likes of Amazon and Goldman Sachs are going to want a political party pushing lists, trials, and asset seizing which I am sure would go to every court in the country and absolutely result in massive electoral backlash.
If it means putting Trump and his supporters behind bars, in camps to learn the error of their ways, along with their shit being taken, those companies will write the lists themselves and give the way to grab those people.
The gay community has been largely discarded, and eventually the BLMs will be discarded as well.
You underestimate the ability to take the good PR that they offer. Democrats live on that.
Biden is not getting 25th'd unless he has a genuinely serious illness. Getting 25th'd means the democrats admit they picked someone who was way too old/incompetent.
Biden just won't run in 2024.
Just paint it in a sympathethic light and you'll have literally everyone painting him as a good man who had a long and distinguished career and desrves to ride off into the sunset? Who'd risk the social lashing to call bullshit?
No one has heard breaking news, but lawyers are waiting to pounce there too. Arizona now identifies as a ninja apparently, because they are quiet as hell right now.
Not only that, they're the covert ninja instead of the running into everything like Naruto.
The interesting thing will be to see what the likely Biden administration actually governs like. I'm assuming it's going to be some sort of rule by the DNC oligarchy with Biden as a puppet.

The question is what do the DNC oligarchs actually want, besides power? New wars? Appeasement of China? What about all the woke shit? Will they drop that and purge people like AOC? Will they go for a mandatory buyback of guns or just reintroduce the assault weapons ban and call it done? Will they rig the midterms? Pack the courts?

One of the most fascinating things about this is that we've got no idea if the US is in for a breakneck ride into dystopia possibly ending in some sort of showdown with half the country or a rerun of the Obama admin where, to be honest, not a lot got done apart from gay marriage, Obamacare and executive order/executive agency fuckery like Title IX and trannies in the changing room.

And what will the Republican party do? Will it be a bipartisan uniparty regime with dissenters purged? Or will they fight it tooth and nail as Gingrich did?
The answer to this question of what do they want is...all of it. They want the progressive utopia, and the dissidents out and the Trump/MAGA people shamed into oblivion or worse. The real question is what'll be the order in which their pet projects are enacted.
Firstly, depending on how bad Biden's condition is (which must be assumed to be pretty bad since he mostly campaigned from the basement) they might not have a choice. Secondly, you're assuming a political party brazen enough to rig an election this blatantly and get away with it wouldn't also, just as brazenly say 'Whoops, I guess Joe really does have dementia. Kamala is your president'.

They don't even try to hide it. At numerous points they've let it slip that Biden was just there to get Harris over the line and you've got Bill De Blackio's daughter calling Kamala the President and admitting that Biden stole it.

You're not really understanding the gravity of what's happened. It doesn't matter if people like Kamala. Popularity is not needed for Kween Kamala. They don't even really need voters to go and vote for Kamala. All that matters to her globalist puppet masters is that she does what they want. Look at Macron. Macron is unpopular as shit. But he does what the globalists want and his election kept Le Pen away from power. They rigged that one, too.
You underestimate Kamala. She's the type of person to go all in on the progressive points (she's got pronouns in her Twitter bio). The thing about it is you have someone like AOC who isn't a loose cannon and can say the quiet part quietly until it's time to spring into action. The only reason you could say they condemned the riots was because it got so big that they couldn't be justified as "the crying out of a down on its luck group". I'm sure that once you see BLM talking about social justice and justice for dead blacks who were struck down for their skin color alone by a cop, you'll see Kamala and the press and the Democrats raking in the PR brownie points, the Democrats' catnip. As for Antifa, I'm sure they can find a way to justify what they can do, while also turning a blind eye to attacks on Trump supporters, even if it's in broad daylight. Hell, some could even use them as shock troops and attack dogs if they're feeling particularly brazen. Look at Portland and what could happen if Antifa has a more sympathetic mayor to go along with their DA.
 
I think this is one of the weaker arguments for fraud. Remember all the registration trends that were discussed here before the election? It's fucked up that TDS is so effective at herding the sheep but that doesn't mean it can't work.
Even us more neutral, ambivalent, or center oriented individuals can get caught off guard about what the general population believes. It's a common psychological distortion to assume that others know what you know.

I've come away feeling EXTREMELY jaded after having many conversations with all sorts of academic and intelligent people who are deeply deeply DEEPLY entrenched in the leftist narrative and lies.

It's MUCH worse than I think many of us have realized.

From my perspective I do feel like you are correct, and I think the lies and damn near brainwashing has essentially worked, and a lot more people were willing to vote for the left than we would have ever thought was possible.

I'm not saying that something significant, and possibly election turning, didn't happen, but I do think it's fair to say we should maybe calibrate our initial reading of just how effective the media's "slanting" worked this election.

Just look at the poll here coming into the election, most of us thought it was a lock for Trump. The riots, the white racism, it seemed so clear to all of us that nobody would stand for it. But the news and social media platforms were absolutely flawless in their whitewashing this time.

It'll make the untangling of law nightmarish to say the least, and the precedent this sets is horrific moving forward.

It may not even be something recoverable from this point.
 
Even us more neutral, ambivalent, or center oriented individuals can get caught off guard about what the general population believes. It's a common psychological distortion to assume that others know what you know.

I've come away feeling EXTREMELY jaded after having many conversations with all sorts of academic and intelligent people who are deeply deeply DEEPLY entrenched in the leftist narrative and lies.

It's MUCH worse than I think many of us have realized.

From my perspective I do feel like you are correct, and I think the lies and damn near brainwashing has essentially worked, and a lot more people were willing to vote for the left than we would have ever thought was possible.

I'm not saying that something significant, and possibly election turning, didn't happen, but I do think it's fair to say we should maybe calibrate our initial reading of just how effective the media's "slanting" worked this election.

Just look at the poll here coming into the election, most of us thought it was a lock for Trump. The riots, the white racism, it seemed so clear to all of us that nobody would stand for it. But the news and social media platforms were absolutely flawless in their whitewashing this time.

It'll make the untangling of law nightmarish to say the least, and the precedent this sets is horrific moving forward.

It may not even be something recoverable from this point.
SO it looks like Trump hatred is too far developed to do anything. Now it's painfully obvious that the Trust and Reconciliation Commission hearings are going to have sky high ratings. Lots of blank checks will probably go around now.
 
How will die hard second amendment people respond if the biden administration succesfully shoah's gun rights?
 
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