Gamergate III: Rise of the Machines

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David Auerbach wrote a pretty good twitlonger post about Anti-GG's frustration with AAA publishers:



http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1smmqdt

His also raises some very good points about GamerGate's shortcomings as a media watchdog group:

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Which is to say, corporate corruption is *professional*. The journos and their favored devs made such easy targets for Gamergate because their corruption was absurdly inept. The AAAs and mouthpieces like IGN and GameInformer and PCGamer run a professional outfit: sure, it's all a big PR con job, but they aren't going to have journalists reviewing games by people they're publicly friends with (or if called out on it, they'll apologize, add disclosures, blah blah), and they eventually realize to cut out the Doritos nonsense, even if a bit too late. Moreover, they aren't going to be dumb enough to run a bunch of articles on the death of gamers. (That would be the "passions" trumping the "interests.") As far as incompetent corruption goes, the journos were the low-hanging fruit. Investigation into AAA corruption would take boots on the ground that Gamergate doesn't have. The journos made it easy. Indie scenes have always celebrated themselves, but they usually don't make themselves targets to quite this extent.

He definitely has a point here. Seeing how so many members of the clique have an uncontrollable urge to advertise every aspect of the their social life on twitter, it's not hard to uncover cases in which journos write about their indie dev friends without providing full disclsoure. I'm assuming that AAA developers are more cautious about disguising their attempts to buy positive coverage. What should GamerGate do in order to step up it's game and expose cases of collusion between large game publishers and the gaming press?
 
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He definitely has a point here. Seeing how so many members of the clique have an uncontrollable urge to advertise every aspect of the their social life on twitter, it's not hard to uncover cases in which journos write about their indie dev friends without providing full disclsoure. I'm assuming that AAA developers are more cautious about disguising their attempts to buy positive coverage. What should GamerGate do in order to step up it's game and expose cases of collusion between large game publishers and the gaming press?

That is an excellent question. I think Gamergate's role as a watchdog group is a critical juncture in its life, and I think if it can step up to the plate, that'll be for the best. That's not going to come easily or smoothly, but I do believe it can happen. Most of the quality "New" media - youtubers, internet commentators, etc - are either neutral on Gamergate or flat-out pro. The Escapist is practically pro-GG in everything but name. All of this means that GG isn't going anywhere, and given that devs have been essentially pro-GG is going to help. And since we already have our side being its own press (see: Total Biscuit breaking the Shadows of Mordor travesty), I'm pretty confident GG can do it.

Part of this is simply supporting outlets that aren't shit. Spread word around about the ones that are good. Call out the ones that are assholes. That's how this game goes. We have to build our own solution to the problem, basically. We have some out there already doing it (Bro Team Pill and Boogie who are Neutral but lean hard Pro-GG, TotalBiscuit, etc), but they're just the start. TechRaptor and many other news groups have gotten quite a surge in readership from Gamergate, and Gamergate has the power to leave Gawker's asshole in ruins, co-opt any hashtag that Anti-GG tries to use, and essentially weaponize its own autism, so the time's ripe.

They'll need to be watched. And GG'll need to make sure they're on-the-level. But the future looks remarkably not-shit if cards are played right.
 
His also raises some very good points about GamerGate's shortcomings as a media watchdog group:



He definitely has a point here. Seeing how so many members of the clique have an uncontrollable urge to advertise every aspect of the their social life on twitter, it's not hard to uncover cases in which journos write about their indie dev friends without providing full disclsoure. I'm assuming that AAA developers are more cautious about disguising their attempts to buy positive coverage. What should GamerGate do in order to step up it's game and expose cases of collusion between large game publishers and the gaming press?
Actual, professional detectives and lawyers. Hints. Further and better education.
 
Boogie is such a pushover it's not even funny.

Pretty much. He wants to be neutral and find a middle ground with everyone which is fine but it has accomplished pretty much nothing. He's dealing with people who have extremist views on the subject and they view him just as bad as GG for not condemning GG. So he gets respect from neither side and disdain from both. He probably would have been better off just ignoring the whole thing.
 
Yeah, Thompson just said video games are evil because they'd corrupt our youth, not trying to take some veil like McIntosh. What you said earlier in that they need to STFU is very fitting. The tweets McIntosh are nothing more drivel that tries to sound intellectual.
Thompson and McIntosh/Anita may be two sides of the same coin, but one thing about Thompson I can respect he has more honor. He is still a moral crusader but at least he is not a (complete) hypocrite. He at least acknowledges that not all games are for children and his focus seemed to be on keeping adult games away from children even if he pursued it in a heavy handed way. He does not pretend to be a gamer and that he spent all this time playing various games to develop his opinion doing independent research. Most importantly of all, Jack Thompson's words come from himself and he is willing to defend his perspective.

He is not a saint by any means, there was a reason why he got disbarred (http://www.cnet.com/news/report-jack-thompson-game-industry-scourge-disbarred/).

It is not a matter of who I like more; it is a matter of who I dislike the least.
 
Like, at least... one of the worst things Thompson did, all things considered, was using his son to prove that it was easy for kids to buy GTA.

That's not a good thing. But it's not nearly as awful as the Sarkeesians' charity scam.
 
Another day, another hilarious SJW meltdown...
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Another day, another hilarious SJW meltdown...
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Those are from last year so not exactly new, but archived in case he tries to delete everything.
Oh, and that 'school shooting threat'? It's the one made against Utah State University when they were hosting Sarkeesian's speech. You know, the one that was deemed 'not credible' by investigators and made no mention whatsoever of video games, much less GamerGate?
 
Ah yes, the dreaded Utah school shooting attempt. Very interesting case regarding Anita as interesting enough the shooter mentioned a shooting from the 70s and not a recent shooting like Sandy Hook or the Virgina tech massacre. The shooter of said case happened to be anti feminist too. Very interesting.
Fun fact: the vast majority of school shooters never advertise their plans. The only people who ever did were the two from the Colombine High School massacre.
The "threat" is 100% fake as Anita wanted to drum up attention to her so she would receive money from the drooling drones who follow her. Sadly I can't link the video because I'm not near my pc, but Sargon has pointed this out himself.
 
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That psycho from the dKos drama has EA employees drinking the Koolaid.

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The individual Margaret Pless called "the most polite man on Twitter," everyone!

In the world of the Antis, white people are not allowed an opinion on anything, ever, in regards to race. Tell me how well you think the civil rights movement would've gone without the support of white people, Veeren. Or better yet, don't, because you've made abundantly clear that the only way you know how to deal with being a minority voice is to marginalize every opinion not your own.

It must be really hard to be an Anti-GGer.

I used to joke that it would be hard to be a religious fundamentalist during the 90s when they were all afraid of catching the gay or worse, tolerance, but somehow being an Anti-GGer seems way harder. You have to worry about toeing the line too hard and being outed as a Geordie Tait (even though his insane opinion is actually quite prevalent in their midst), you have to worry about not toeing the line hard enough and being seen as a backslider, worry about becoming socially irrelevant as more and more of the internet unites to kick your shit in (even Maddox, in a recent podcast, declared SJWs the biggest threat to the internet right now), worry about how the opposition is able to inflict incalculable damage to major corporations and outlets that your side deemed unassailable, worry about the big guns on your side up and leaving when the tide is finally obviously turned, worried about AAA taking the side of those filthy GGers, worried about ultimately losing a war that you so clearly had in the bag, to the point where you have to deny reality entirely to make the argument that you're winning with a straight face.

And then you peel back the surface, under their ability to fucking deny reality, and you see that these people are even more frightened than that - they live in constant, pant-shitting terror. Gamergate isn't just winning, it's invulnerable in the conventional sense. Destroy one of their strongholds, they make three more. Launch a hashtag, Gamergate co-opts it. Start new terms to discredit them, they mock them. Launch documentaries to lionize your side, they dismantle them. False-flag yourself, they catch you. Be the source of the attacks towards them, and they will wreck your shit. To the average Anti, Gamergate must seem like the killer of a fucking horror movie - invulnerable, implacable, relentless, and never truly destroyed. If it weren't for their constant attempts to declare Gamergate over, they'd clearly be nursing a serious grudge over an enemy they can't shame, can't defeat, and which has essentially solidified opposition in the industry against the Antis.

Those are from last year so not exactly new, but archived in case he tries to delete everything.
Oh, and that 'school shooting threat'? It's the one made against Utah State University when they were hosting Sarkeesian's speech. You know, the one that was deemed 'not credible' by investigators and made no mention whatsoever of video games, much less GamerGate?

Ah yes, the dreaded Utah school shooting attempt. Very interesting case regarding Anita as interesting enough the shooter mentioned a shooting from the 70s and not a recent shooting like Sandy Hook or the Virgina tech massacre. The shooter of said case happened to be anti feminist too. Very interesting.
Fun fact: the vast majority of school shooters never advertise their plans. The only people who ever did were the two from the Colombine High School massacre.
The "threat" is 100% fake as Anita wanted to drum up attention to her so she would receive money from the drooling drones who follow her. Sadly I can't link the video because I'm not near my pc, but Sargon has pointed this out himself.


Ask and you shall receive, old friend.
 
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do gamergaters just exist online?

I thought I met one on a long bus trip but it was a false alarm

and it all started so well too when he intros with "fucking feminazis."

turns out dude hated gg more than feminism for "making gamers look like neanderthals."

and it's just like. the two or three people out there that care about gg must RLY care about it.

because where the fuck is everyone hiding?

it has become a personal quest to find a gamergater irl.
 
Ask and you shall receive, old friend.

Godspeed you magificent man you.

In the world of the Antis, white people are not allowed an opinion on anything, ever, in regards to race. Tell me how well you think the civil rights movement would've gone without the support of white people, Veeren. Or better yet, don't, because you've made abundantly clear that the only way you know how to deal with being a minority voice is to marginalize every opinion not your own.

If the antis lived during the time of Martin Luther King Jr, they would be the ones who ordered the assassination. They would then celebrate the assassination by declaring him a internalized-racial-hatred man because their instincts would be worse than those of lemmings.

As for them shitting in fear, here's the thing:

They fucked up, hard. They know they have fucked up hard and are afraid of admitting that they fucked up hard. Admitting their mistake would mean they have misled the drones they call followers in falsehood and thus making them appear 'human'. The phrase "To error is human" means that anyone can make a mistake. But to admit they made a mistake is to admit that they too are human.

And that is something they refuse to admit.

Sites like Shitaco and Gawker know that they are in the wrong. They realize that they have spinned the reality in favor of clickbaits and accusations towards others. They know that should they admit their mistake their followers will bite them hard in the ass. Their credibility (the illusion of it) would dissipate into nothing. Why would they maintain the sex video of Hulk Hogan up in defiance of court orders whilst damning anyone watching the sex video of a female celebrity and claim to be fighting against censorship? Because they want to maintain the illusion of them being right.

In a world where game journalists are in favor of games and gamers, Gamergate would not exist. Why would it if Game Journalists are unbiased and ethical? But that is the image of a ideal gaming world. The harsh reality is that GG is the biggest enemy the Antis have, one whose hand is slowly destroying their every stronghold and sweeping aside the rags of lies.

GG is the wall the antis have slammed into and found out that their is no way they can break it.

EDIT: Forgot to add the following:

E3 2015 is where true gamers and lovers of games have been. Everytime a new game was announced, Gamers cheered. Be it the remake of FF 7 or Doom, gamers have rejoiced in gaming.
The Antis? They despised each game. They boo'ed at Doom because of violence. They literally had not one shred of positivity about this year's E3. Who will game companies listen?
 
Man, I'm surprising to say this but: Thank God Milo is in E3 and I'm sorry that I doubted about the quality drama that the SJW will bring to the E3.
 
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I used to joke that it would be hard to be a religious fundamentalist during the 90s when they were all afraid of catching the gay or worse, tolerance, but somehow being an Anti-GGer seems way harder. You have to worry about toeing the line too hard and being outed as a Geordie Tait (even though his insane opinion is actually quite prevalent in their midst), you have to worry about not toeing the line hard enough and being seen as a backslider, worry about becoming socially irrelevant as more and more of the internet unites to kick your shit in (even Maddox, in a recent podcast, declared SJWs the biggest threat to the internet right now), worry about how the opposition is able to inflict incalculable damage to major corporations and outlets that your side deemed unassailable, worry about the big guns on your side up and leaving when the tide is finally obviously turned, worried about AAA taking the side of those filthy GGers, worried about ultimately losing a war that you so clearly had in the bag, to the point where you have to deny reality entirely to make the argument that you're winning with a straight face.

It's a good point. I saw exactly the same thing on Conservapedia. To survive there you obviously had to toe the line, but never go as extreme as Andy Schlafly (the owner) or you risk being banned for being a liberal troll posing as a Reaganaut. Genuine conservative nutters got banned for this reason. The rule for survival was to be crazy, but not as crazy as Andy. Of course if you aren't crazy enough you'll be kicked out for being a dirty libruhl. i.e. the system was perfect for trolls who knew this, but bad for genuine contributors.
 
it has become a personal quest to find a gamergater irl.

Here's a list of planned/potential GG meetups. Your profile says that you live in New England; that doesn't tell me too much about your sepcific location, but if you're close to NYC you can go to the GG meetup that will be there on August 1st. I also see that GG-supporters in the Phillipines are planning to have their own meetup, though nothing is certein at this point. I think that I speak for all of us by expressing hope that our very own @homerbeoulve will attend.
 
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