Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

I hope he doesn't know any actual 14 year olds. Not just because rape is bad mkay, but also because that's the only way he could reasonably consider that an adult age. But I don't want to start imagining this cretin attacking my neices, so let's discuss other things.

Boxasaurus, you seem very concerned with emphasizing your masculine superiority, but nobody believes you, because you haven't doxed your bench press max with proof.
 
Hitler wasn't a white nationalist. He was a German nationalist and he was basically advocating Social Darwinism to the max. The German are the master race ethnicity and all other ethnicities were inferior and would serve the Germans.
The reason he wanted to exterminate the slavs was because they were underdeveloped compared to Western Europe so he viewed them as inferior and wanted to take their land for lebensraum.


Marco Rubio is another white Hispanic.
I knew a Diego from Cuba and he was pure 100% Spaniard.

IIRC Hispanic exists as a category to categorize Spanish speaking Tejanos.



I should add removing Hispanic from US Census as a policy position.
Hitler was a German nationalist but he was also an Aryan (Nordic and Germanic) racial supremacist. Hitler's German nationalism tied very heavily into his and other Nazis ideas about race. They didn't consider all white people to be the same race, much like how most white nationalists today don't consider Jews with European features to be white. This wasn't about ethnicity, which is more tied to culture. It was far more about their concept of genetics.

Just by looking at him, I think it's pretty clear Marco Rubio has some non-white blood. Of course as a non-white we can't expect you to have the whitedar that all true and honest white people are equipped with.

Hispanic isn't a category purely to categorize Tejanos. The Wikipedia quote you snipped doesn't even say that. It's a blanket term for everyone who was under the Spanish Empire and adopted the Spanish language and many aspects of Spanish culture. Spain was the ultimate assimilator in many ways, possibly outdoing even the Roman Empire.
 
why is this considered more healthy than let's say 16 + 22?
The only reason Romeo + Juliet loopholes exist is simply because these relationships are soo common that they cannot enforce 18 age of consent.
Why is 18 or 16 age of consent? Because 18 is when women graduate high school and 16 used to be the age people could drop out of high school.
The entire point of age of consent was to force women into education.
Prior to age of consent, many women would be getting married or put on path to marriage 14-18.
Feminists hated this, they said "motherhood is prison" and they wanted to put women on a path to education -> workforce instead.
Except that didn't work, Romeo + Juliet loopholes were added and created the messed up system we have today.
We can see the results today.

You will not have a health society with an 18 age of consent. It needs to be dropped to max 14.
It's not enough to dediversify, you need to also defeminize society.
Over 50% of teenage pregnancies are a result of relations with a man over the age of 20. If you still believe a 22 year old should be able to legally have relations with a 16 year old then argue for Romeo and Juliet laws to be extended from 4 years to 6 years. There's zero reason to make it legal for 35 year olds to fuck 14 year olds over edge cases like a 22 year old and a 16 year old.

Age of Consent was raised to somewhere between 16 and 18 in the very early 1900's. This was before the big push to have women in college and careers in the 60's and 70's. The Age of Consent was raised because stories of 13-15 year old prostitutes being taken advantage of surfaced and the public was outraged. It wasn't about women in education.

The Post-Structuralist New Left types were actually very keen on abolishing Age of Consent laws in the 60's and 70's (And today on the downlow with things like "MAPs" and "Cuties"). The petition to abolish Age of Consent laws in France was a "who's who" of New Left philosophers and included the biggest names like Michel Foucault, Jean-Francois Lyotard, Jacques Derrida, and Jean-Paul Sartre:


I encourage every person in this thread to play a game of "Queer Theory Jeopardy":

 
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Over 50% of teenage pregnancies are a result of relations with a man over the age of 20. If you still believe a 22 year old should be able to legally have relations with a 16 year old then argue for Romeo and Juliet laws to be extended from 4 years to 6 years. There's zero reason to make it legal for 35 year olds to fuck 14 year olds over edge cases like a 22 year old and a 16 year old.
1. Do you have the data to show many many teenagers date men in their 20s or 30s? What is the "free market" normal distribution?

2. Teenage, NOT PRE-TEEN, pregnancy is safe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_maternal_age#/media/File:Down_risk_by_maternal_age.png In fact most women should be having kids by the end of their teenage years or early 20s (18-22). Fertility is declining throughout the 20s. Very important concept to internalize. Women peak by age 21-22.

3. People, especially women, having the biological drive to have sex and get impregnated in their teenage years is 100% normal. You can either build your society around that or you play God and try changing human nature. Say marriage is "uncouth," women need an education. Enact age of consent laws to prevent sex. That doesn't work so add loopholes to allow sex with people near the same age. Add abortion, the pill (destroys a woman's hormones) or condoms to prevent pregnancy. You can see how the slippery slope works. Everything spirals out of control as soon as you say human nature is "uncouth."

To make society LONG-TERM viable, we need to repeal the feminism post civil war, repeal feminist gender studies and return society to traditional family values.
As I've said, it's not enough to simply enact an ethnostate, we need to completely change our social and economic policies and foreign policy too.
20th Century America is dead and we need to build a new nation.

Age of Consent was raised to somewhere between 16 and 18 in the very early 1900's. This was before the big push to have women in college and careers in the 60's and 70's. The Age of Consent was raised because stories of 13-15 year old prostitutes being taken advantage of surfaced and the public was outraged. It wasn't about women in education.
Because the feminists targeted politics in the 1910s with suffrage and politics in the 1920s before the workforce. They were unexpectedly aided by WW2 forcing women into the workforce.


The Post-Structuralist New Left types were actually very keen on abolishing Age of Consent laws in the 60's and 70's. The petition to abolish Age of Consent laws in France was a "who's who" of New Left philosophers and included the biggest names like Michel Foucault, Jean-Francois Lyotard, Jacques Derrida, and Jean-Paul Sartre:


I encourage every person in this thread to play a game of "Queer Theory Jeopardy":

The far left will eventually abolish age of consent. They normalized homosexuality, transgenderism. race-mixing. People had the exact same disgust towards these actions as they do towards pedophilia right now. With the right propaganda, the left can normalize anything. Once trans rights are fully normalized all their lobbying efforts will be redirected towards pedophilia. Cuties is the start of the pedo-nornmalization.
 
The Post-Structuralist New Left types were actually very keen on abolishing Age of Consent laws in the 60's and 70's (And today on the downlow with things like "MAPs" and "Cuties"). The petition to abolish Age of Consent laws in France was a "who's who" of New Left philosophers and included the biggest names like Michel Foucault, Jean-Francois Lyotard, Jacques Derrida, and Jean-Paul Sartre:
It's not surprising this turd endorses degenerate ideas from degenerates like Foucault.
 
How UNCOUTH that your single mom works, paying for the internet you use to bitch about single moms working.


Boxy agreed. We all knew you were a NEET, but thanks for the cucking confirmation. Have you told your mom to stop working yet?

As for Slavs being white, some say they are. Others do not. They're like bottom tier white, a generic racial product, the Diet Coke of whiteness. But, even if we grant a Slavic exception, Boxy referenced one Slav group that is pretty damn far from white. He referred to himself as Bosnian here.
 
Boxy agreed. We all knew you were a NEET, but thanks for the cucking confirmation. Have you told your mom to stop working yet?

As for Slavs being white, some say they are. Others do not. They're like bottom tier white, a generic racial product, the Diet Coke of whiteness. But, even if we grant a Slavic exception, Boxy referenced one Slav group that is pretty damn far from white. He referred to himself as Bosnian here.
I'm 1/8th Romanian.
 
Over 50% of teenage pregnancies are a result of relations with a man over the age of 20. If you still believe a 22 year old should be able to legally have relations with a 16 year old then argue for Romeo and Juliet laws to be extended from 4 years to 6 years. There's zero reason to make it legal for 35 year olds to fuck 14 year olds over edge cases like a 22 year old and a 16 year old.

Age of Consent was raised to somewhere between 16 and 18 in the very early 1900's. This was before the big push to have women in college and careers in the 60's and 70's. The Age of Consent was raised because stories of 13-15 year old prostitutes being taken advantage of surfaced and the public was outraged. It wasn't about women in education.

The Post-Structuralist New Left types were actually very keen on abolishing Age of Consent laws in the 60's and 70's (And today on the downlow with things like "MAPs" and "Cuties"). The petition to abolish Age of Consent laws in France was a "who's who" of New Left philosophers and included the biggest names like Michel Foucault, Jean-Francois Lyotard, Jacques Derrida, and Jean-Paul Sartre:


I encourage every person in this thread to play a game of "Queer Theory Jeopardy":


And you hear arguments like those from @BoxerShorts47 saying that different girls hit puberty at different ages.

He also proposes that we should lower the age of consent to 10 or 12 as if all girls hit puberty at 10 or 12, contradicting himself. He justifies this with some bullshit saying that lowering to 10 will make us see 10 year olds as "young adults".

He also contradicts himself again by saying the age of consent ought to be up to the individual as opposed to being up to a number like 10, 12, 16, 18 or 21.

All I hear from that "girls mature sexually at different ages" argument is for a removal of age of consent. After all it is not up to a number but the individual.
 
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2. Teenage, NOT PRE-TEEN, pregnancy is safe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_maternal_age#/media/File:Down_risk_by_maternal_age.png In fact most women should be having kids by the end of their teenage years or early 20s (18-22). Fertility is declining throughout the 20s. Very important concept to internalize. Women peak by age 21-22.
Your brain doesn't become fully developed until your 20's. 13 year olds are hormonal wrecks with undeveloped brains. But around 18 they're usually developed enough (Though not entirely). If you want to say "Why not wait until they're 25?" then go ahead, but don't lower age of consent to 13.

3. People, especially women, having the biological drive to have sex and get impregnated in their teenage years is 100% normal. You can either build your society around that or you play God and try changing human nature. Say marriage is "uncouth," women need an education. Enact age of consent laws to prevent sex. That doesn't work so add loopholes to allow sex with people near the same age. Add abortion, the pill (destroys a woman's hormones) or condoms to prevent pregnancy. You can see how the slippery slope works. Everything spirals out of control as soon as you say human nature is "uncouth."
Paternal instincts are also human nature. That's why age of consent laws were passed in the first place. And 13 year old girls aren't naturally hypersexualized and wanting to get pregnant. They can have sexual attraction, but so can 9 year olds. The answer is to have parents do things to keep their kids from becoming hypersexualized by doing things like not allowing the internet/TV to raise their kids (Or at least blocking their children from consuming adult content). The answer is not letting 35 year olds wed 12 year olds.

To make society LONG-TERM viable, we need to repeal the feminism post civil war, repeal feminist gender studies and return society to traditional family values.
As I've said, it's not enough to simply enact an ethnostate, we need to completely change our social and economic policies and foreign policy too.
20th Century America is dead and we need to build a new nation.
You won't be able to build a new nation when White Fathers and Mothers find out there's a law to legalize their 12 year old daughter being able to marry an adult.
 
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