2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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if the state legislators send trump electors, whats the dems options?

Insurrection. They'll use BLM and AntiFa to riot and intimidate people and the media will say it's fine and the protests were 'mostly peaceful'. Just like they used intimidation to get Republicans to certify the ballots in Michigan. They'll also denounce Trump as literally Pinochet for staging a coup and using his stormtroopers to suppress 'peaceful protests'.

Also here's GTV translating Jon Voight into Chinese for their anti-CCP/anti-DNC audience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll4ANvxv-Kw
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So they said fuck it you get 2 extra frankfurts we don't give a shit. And they kept not giving a shit until this very day.
Jesus fucking Christ how do you know so much shit :stress:
These are very smart and mature people who should be running one of the most important processes in our country.
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Boys count me as mad on the internet. This is so fucking stupid.
I hope all you Americans spend Thanksgiving with your families not doomposting on here.

I will of course be doomposting on here for those of you who don't have families.
Godspeed, hope eveyone does the same. Some of us will be hosed by travel restrictions, others by their family deciding to all stay home as well. By the time evening rolls around a few more of us will probably be on after dinner and dessert are over and those who travel go home. Some of us will just check via our phones in between conversational lulls as well, so don't worry about us too much if you see us :)
 
"Milo got invited to CPAC? He's WAY too aggressive and gay to be a proper conservative-faggot, a lefty gave me this spliced together audio of him making a joke about how he was viciously raped as a child, repeatedly, for years, and the edits make him look like a pedo. That'll teach those damned uppity gays to support us while acting gay."
I believe Milo in fact got done dirty by the conservative establishment (in strangely one of their few moments of organization), and I don't believe said establishment has veritable investment in their supposed social ideals-- that, or they're profoundly lazy in propagating their social ideals and would be just as glad to find any millennial that'd be willing to say "guns good, capitalism good, communism very bad".

That said, it was ultimately good for the conservative movement that Milo lost influence in the "conservo-sphere" because he was very bad at extolling those social ideals, between being a promiscuous, flamboyant homosexual and being the political equivalent of a court jester, i.e. his value was limited. The entirety of conservatism isn't WRECKING SJWs, and that's in fact something you can do while still being a liberal because that's only a rebellion against schizophrenic authoritarians rather than the roots of the ideologies that gave birth to that particular authoritarianism. His primary value was being the "gay conservative" that-- much like the "Based Black Conservative"-- validated sensitive conservatives and right-leaning moderates as well as provided cover for conservative ideas by having them come from a "protected person". But that schtick didn't work for very long, and the left learned to deal with the fact that they were violating their inchoate demographic totem pole by... not giving a damn.
If we're going for the optimistic prediction on what's going to happen here, then this could possibly mean that these GOP lawmakers are taking a firm stand to defend Trump on this, and they're sending that message by having Trump physically there in Gettysburg with them today.
I think it's supposed to be one last plea from the GOP for any reasonable, tangible evidence that will give them pause in certifying the results. Or maybe they always do this and it's the first time that it's getting a high profile.
So if the Democrats stuff ballots in the GA runoffs they will give citizenship to 11 million illegals which will then make it impossible for the Republicans to ever win again.
Not necessarily. You need to think about the distribution of these illegals, first of all. The law can still be challenged all the way to SCOTUS which currently has a conservative bent. And in the absolute worst case scenario, it means that the GOP needs to be extremely aggressive in swinging the politically diverse Hispanic voter bloc over to them (I'll assume most of these illegal immigrants are from Central and South America).

The time it would take to do that without mindlessly pandering to illegal immigrants (to the detriment of everyone, including illegal immigrants), I'm not sure. If they're able to be naturalized, you can't really use the argument that the Democratic party allows them to be blackmailed and exploited by the dregs of high and low society-- which is an argument that needed to have been blasted earlier ad infinitum, for the record, but probably wasn't because the GOPe is allergic to winning.
That's not real.

That can't be real.

Nobody can be that stupid and/or corrupt.
 
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Should I bother asking for a general state update or nah? This is a really slow week comparatively.

Nobody can be that stupid and/or corrupt.
We are on a forum dedicated to sideshows and spectacles with at least 40% having an IQ around a nice summer day. You know it to be true. :heart-empty:
 
As grim as the situation seems there's a strange air of unreality about it. It's not some efficient coup where you can look at it and think 'We're all completely fucked'. Most of it is just the media telling you you're fucked when anyone looking at the court cases, demonstrations and slowly dawning realization inside the GOP that they're heading into a do or die situation can see that it could still go either way.



As I've explained patiently your problem is that you lesser of two evils calculation must not saturate even if both evils are infinitesimally close to pure evil. It must still return a result. We're not machines that suffer from arithmetic overflow, we're quite capable of seeing that one infinite set is smaller than another in finite time.

In the case of US elections that means voting for the other non-Democrat major party. Even if you're literally voting for A HITLER(R) or J STALIN(R).

And if that doesn't work the moral imperative will get steadily darker from there.
Much of the "there is no evidence of widespread fraud" mimics the "mostly peaceful protests" behavior of the media, where they say everything is fine while the city burns to ashes, the point is, they don't get to decide how much fraud is acceptable and what constitutes evidence, the authorities do and such authorities are supposed to respond and serve the people, the same people that say "if you burn my city, fuck you" and say "if you defraud my elections fuck you".

Is time to apply pressure to these fuckers, because they know what happened, we know what happened and even the "winners" know what happened, it's the time to test if they can lie to everyones faces and get away with it once again.
 
Actually it's because of America. No I'm not kidding. Outside of America meat is usually bought using the metric system. But while hot dogs weren't quite invented in America they were certainly popularized by Americans and as a result INDUSTRIALIZED in America. And in America the meat is bought by the pound. And 10 hot dogs usually weight about 1 pound. Hence that standard.

Buns on the other hand come in packs of 8 because the machines used to create them industrially were made before the hot dog (Buns like those are used for plenty of other foods, by filling them with seafoods or minced meat and veggies, specially in America but also in fairs around the world. Indeed the tradition seems to come from Mexico although the original and usual food tends to use normal bread.) and uses trays of 4. Which was decided due to the usual size of conveyor belts at the time and the width of the buns. And changing that to 5 would require changing the whole damned production line due to the importance of a standard volume. Meaning changing that would require a very large amount of investment with no added benefit. So they said fuck it you get 2 extra frankfurts we don't give a shit. And they kept not giving a shit until this very day.
Can I pay you to just teach me all of the shit you know or something?
 

A scorpion, which cannot swim, asks a frog to carry it across a river on the frog's back. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung by the scorpion, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature.

Same shit, different actors.
 
The latter, alongside almost the entire state legislature, both federal senators, and an absolute ton of voters.

He's under assault from all sides, its glorious.
Odds he resigns? If anything, it’ll give Abrams a chance to return from exile since he doesn’t seem like a fighter and GA is working to become the will of Atlanta.
 
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Can I pay you to just teach me all of the shit you know or something?
I'll do it for free:
Just make shit up on the spot that vaguely sounds right.

Lol at people in this thread saying "trump's team hadn't shown any evidence of fraud!"

That's bullshit. The statistical analysis showing impossible coincidences is evidence. The sworn affidavits of boxes of ballots, of observers being locked out, is evidence. The documentation showing the dominion machines were updated with an emergency patch and not re-certified is evidence. The documents showing a link between dominion and smartmatic is evidence.

There is such an absurd amount of evidence most conservatives aren't interested in seeing more of it. We know it was fraud, it's obvious.

When acb was being confirmed, and kamala was asking her retarded questions, she brought up the concept that the court is allowed to consider things that are widely accepted knowledge, like cigarettes cause cancer and viruses are real. The scotus justices don't have to ignore reality in their judgements. The people arguing the case in front of the SC don't have to prove cigarettes cause cancer or that viruses exist.

This also means they don't have to prove definitively every last fraudulent vote for biden.

Now what goes on in the minds of our 9 philosopher kings is hard to say. They ar le more invested than random citizens in the notion that the us government is legitimate, because calling the system into question inherently calls their own authority into question.
 
Should I bother asking for a general state update or nah? This is a really slow week comparatively.


We are on a forum dedicated to sideshows and spectacles with at least 40% having an IQ around a nice summer day. You know it to be true. :heart-empty:

Quick run down from what I know

Nevada: A judge in Carlson City is giving Trump's campaign a chance to argue their case for Nevada

Wisconsin: Recount's still going ahead with alot of ballots being taken aside. I'm personally expecting a shit show to break out over this recount what with the amount of ballots being picked up, the pexiglass and the poo emoji armbands.

Georgia: I haven't heard much about in the past 24 hours before it was supposed to start a second recount yesterday supposedly with signaturing auditing. Apparently Kemp is getting pressure from both within and outside of Georgia.

Michigan: Barnes seems to be optimistic about an audit being triggered. I think it's one to watch.

Pennslyvania: There's something going down today with the republican state legislature and a press conference with both Rudy and Trump himself.

And Arizona seems to have vanished off the face of the Earth.

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Personally I'm waiting for the press conference in PA and then I'm gonna TRY to take a break from the thread. Between following this and personal stuff I'm feeling pretty drained.
 
Quick run down from what I know

Nevada: A judge in Carlson City is giving Trump's campaign a chance to argue their case for Nevada

Wisconsin: Recount's still going ahead with alot of ballots being taken aside. I'm personally expecting a shit show to break out over this recount what with the amount of ballots being picked up, the pexiglass and the poo emoji armbands.

Georgia: I haven't heard much about in the past 24 hours before it was supposed to start a second recount yesterday supposedly with signaturing auditing. Apparently Kemp is getting pressure from both within and outside of Georgia.

Michigan: Barnes seems to be optimistic about an audit being triggered. I think it's one to watch.

Pennslyvania: There's something going down today with the republican state legislature and a press conference with both Rudy and Trump himself.

And Arizona seems to have vanished off the face of the Earth.

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Personally I'm waiting for the press conference in PA and then I'm gonna TRY to take a break from the thread.
none of those states have done signature audits right? outside of democrat stalling, what's the issue preventing sig match?

GA: they may have shredded the envelopes needed for signature match?
 
if the state legislators send trump electors, whats the dems options?
They define who's being sent and for whom in their certification certificate. As it stands, Georgia has produced a certificate assigning electors to Joe and Kamala. I expect that this will be the MO of every other contested state absent tangible evidence that puts a major question mark over their tallies.

Which, I would have imagined would have came out by now if it was there.

outside of democrat stalling, what's the issue preventing sig match?
Republican stalling.
 
none of those states have done signature audits right? outside of democrat stalling, what's the issue preventing sig match?

GA: they may have shredded the envelopes needed for signature match?

As far as I know none of them have done signature audits, I have no idea if it's something coming up in Wisconsin just because from what I have seen the extent of that recount has been very vague.

As far as I know the issue stopping signature audits is that the people in positions of power don't want to do them because they are scared.

I have no idea if the envelope shredding story in Georgia has any truth to it. I wouldn't at all be suprised but I'm not too sure if it has been properly confirmed.
 
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As far as I know none of them have done signature audits, I have no idea if it's something coming up in Wisconsin just because from what I have seen the extent of that recount has been very vague.

As far as I know the issue stopping signature audits is that the people in positions of power don't want to do them because they are scared.

I have no idea if the envelope shredding story in Georgia has any truth to it. I wouldn't at all be suprised but I'm not too sure if it has been properly confirmed.
In Cook County, they reportedly shredded everything except ballots and envelopes.
 
They define who's being sent and for whom in their certification certificate. As it stands, Georgia has produced a certificate assigning electors to Joe and Kamala. I expect that this will be the MO of every other contested state absent tangible evidence that puts a major question mark over their tallies.
It’s there in black and white. Clear as crystal. They’re doing everything possible to make it impossible for Trump’s only hope of electors going rogue. Trump will end up having nothing but indictments in 2021.
 
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