World Economic Forum Megathread (The Great Reset)

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That's what I'm concerned about, how it's specifically about reskilling a billion people by 2030. The other 7 billion? Bet you anything those are the ones deemed 'useless eaters' by the pedolites and want them genocided to ensure a 'managable' population and that humanity can never again amass the numbers and strength necessary to shake off these tyrants born from ancient family blood. The Rockefellers and Rothschilds will be perfectly fine managing their new stock of slaves, thank you very much. Meanwhile, the plebs will be vaccinated and made into docile drones that will happily work themselves until death for their uncaring masters - all for their pleasure.

I don't think they really need or want to genocide billions of people because of lack of resources. These people combined have trillions of dollars and can slap together a new megacorporation to obtain more resources (from space, with currently experimental/hypothetical technology, etc.) with whatever tech they choose. I believe all the environmental issues at this point exist for the sake of power. And also remember that people, especially corporate types, like to see numbers going up. If your population goes down, there's less consoomers and your corporate income shrinks. That's why we're not allowed to experiment with economies that don't grow or sustainably shrink and we need to bring in millions of immigrants to act as new consoomers and a replacement for the native population.

That said, if they hypothetically wanted to kill 7 billion to rule over everyone else, they'd do it passively and peacefully using the same mechanisms they've perfected. If you live in a pod and own nothing, you're not going to have kids. If you do, you might have maybe one kid at most. Since the dawn of time, living in a city depresses the birth rate and that's even more true now. The places with the lowest birth rate EVER recorded are in Chinese cities, with something like 1 in 3 people having a kid, one single kid of course because One Child Policy. But this happens everywhere. One of the reason the Japanese birthrate is so shit is because most people live in tiny apartments in big cities and have to work all day, leaving no time for reproduction or raising kids. You see this all over the world.

Now imagine if you live in a pod and eat the bugs all day and live on a fixed UBI like almost everyone else. Having a kid would be too time-consuming and take away resources from you, since don't expect the extra UBI stipend for families to fully cover the costs. There'd be propaganda everywhere encouraging you to consoom and talking about how pointless having kids are. Therefore you'd have maybe 1-2 kids at most, thus leading to a shrinking population. Abortion and contraceptive would be everywhere and at times mandatory. I wouldn't be surprised if they also want to eradicate the very idea of parenthood, possibly through artificial wombs (which would be a fantastic misuse of that technology) or through taking kids and raising them in government education facilities so everyone is equal and gets the same chance. Artificial wombs would also help them maintain the population at whatever level they feel like. Probably some eugenics too (but not called that of course) with anyone who seems excessively smart or unstable in any way among the proles receiving the Harrison Bergeron treatment and getting sterilized.

 

[Meriasek]

How about this for the 7 billion less-skilled:
The 7 billion are the idle masses, kept calm with consoomption funded by UBI. The 1 billion to be reskilled are the middle class that are dangerous to the elite in power. They are those who are first to rise up, so they need to be taken care of.
They will be those skilled enough to still work, and they'll be taught to be proud to be the only ones working their asses off. Reskilling every five years means that they'll have constant economic anxiety about losing their status as important workers, because that job they're doing is keeping them above the idle masses.
This keeps the middle class and the masses busy and placated.
Hm, where have I heard this exact arrangement? Oh yeah, Nineteen Eighty-Four. You have the Proles, the Outer Party, and the Inner Party. The entire system just exists to oppress the Outer Party, the former upper middle class, into complacency.
The Proles don't do shit on their own, it's always the middle class overthrowing the ruling class with the help of the proletariat.
So now the wealthy elite will create a system to keep the masses happy with some basic prolefeed, and the middle class will have to compete for jobs and skills and be constantly in fear of the next Coof or climate change or losing their jobs because they skipped sensitivity training.
Why do they like living in pods or large rooms full of glorified bunk beds? Because it eliminates privacy, and they want constantly shifting environments so no long-lasting connections between people can form. The goal is that you'll never be able to trust anyone enough to actually voice any wrongthink opinions. "Co-being spaces", shared living spaces, it's all to stop people from meeting in private so that they never know wether there's some dangerhair overhearing them, ratting them out. Remember dongle-gate? Like that, but everywhere.

 

[Overgame]

I don't see why everyone is worried about anything, our corporations operate under the greatest ideal known to mankind: capitalism. This ensures that we will achieve the most optimal outcome for our society.

 

[Eris!]

I don't see why everyone is worried about anything, our corporations operate under the greatest ideal known to mankind: capitalism. This ensures that we will achieve the most optimal outcome for our society.

I know you're ironyposting but the best thing about Capitalism is that it is not an ideal or a system. Capitalism is freedom. Socialists organize their economy, distributing each resource here and taking each hour of labor there, organizing logistics systems, determining demand, etc. Capitalism does none of these things. It's not that it does them in a distributed fashion. It's not that they're done by 'the invisible hand.' It's that it doesn't do them. No one distributes resources at a systemic level in a capitalist system. No one manages the system as a thing itself. Every man owns what he owns and does what he wants with it, that's it, that's the whole thing. There is no organizing system, there is no principle of ideals, there is nothing, nothing, nothing at all but property rights. That is why capitalism is a good system: It isn't one. Capitalism not only does not ensure that we will achieve the most optimal outcome for our society, but treats the very question with contempt. Let the outcome be whatever it is. Let the cards fall where they may. Let people sink or swim as they choose.

 

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I know you're ironyposting but the best thing about Capitalism is that it is not an ideal or a system. Capitalism is freedom. Socialists organize their economy, distributing each resource here and taking each hour of labor there, organizing logistics systems, determining demand, etc. Capitalism does none of these things. It's not that it does them in a distributed fashion. It's not that they're done by 'the invisible hand.' It's that it doesn't do them. No one distributes resources at a systemic level in a capitalist system. No one manages the system as a thing itself. Every man owns what he owns and does what he wants with it, that's it, that's the whole thing. There is no organizing system, there is no principle of ideals, there is nothing, nothing, nothing at all but property rights. That is why capitalism is a good system: It isn't one. Capitalism not only does not ensure that we will achieve the most optimal outcome for our society, but treats the very question with contempt. Let the outcome be whatever it is. Let the cards fall where they may. Let people sink or swim as they choose.

Capitalism is natural human behavior but it's undeniable that like other natural human behavior it's easy to misuse and turn it into oppression. And that's exactly what this cabal of multibillionaires and their corporations and banks does. They succeeded through capitalism at some point and decided to pull up the ladder for everyone else. It's like how humans naturally look for authority figures (i.e. the strongest hunter or most persuasive speaker) yet authority figures can mislead and destroy people.

 

[Eris!]

Capitalism is natural human behavior but it's undeniable that like other natural human behavior it's easy to misuse and turn it into oppression. And that's exactly what this cabal of multibillionaires and their corporations and banks does. They succeeded through capitalism at some point and decided to pull up the ladder for everyone else. It's like how humans naturally look for authority figures (i.e. the strongest hunter or most persuasive speaker) yet authority figures can mislead and destroy people.

There is no ladder retard

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I know you're ironyposting but the best thing about Capitalism is that it is not an ideal or a system. Capitalism is freedom. Socialists organize their economy, distributing each resource here and taking each hour of labor there, organizing logistics systems, determining demand, etc. Capitalism does none of these things. It's not that it does them in a distributed fashion. It's not that they're done by 'the invisible hand.' It's that it doesn't do them. No one distributes resources at a systemic level in a capitalist system. No one manages the system as a thing itself. Every man owns what he owns and does what he wants with it, that's it, that's the whole thing. There is no organizing system, there is no principle of ideals, there is nothing, nothing, nothing at all but property rights. That is why capitalism is a good system: It isn't one. Capitalism not only does not ensure that we will achieve the most optimal outcome for our society, but treats the very question with contempt. Let the outcome be whatever it is. Let the cards fall where they may. Let people sink or swim as they choose.

Too bad there's one stubborn guy then I mentionned once in the Antifa thread who so stubborn.

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

After reading threads like these, I wonder how many times “they”/”the elites”/whatever look to conspiracy speculation for ideas

 

[ShortBusDriver]

I don't see why everyone is worried about anything, our corporations operate under the greatest ideal known to mankind: capitalism. This ensures that we will achieve the most optimal outcome for our society.

There's a reason the US produced GM, Ford, and Chrysler while Soviet engineering peaked at a poorly constructed Fiat clone.

Just sayin'

 

[Overgame]

I know you're ironyposting but the best thing about Capitalism is that it is not an ideal or a system. Capitalism is freedom. Socialists organize their economy, distributing each resource here and taking each hour of labor there, organizing logistics systems, determining demand, etc. Capitalism does none of these things. It's not that it does them in a distributed fashion. It's not that they're done by 'the invisible hand.' It's that it doesn't do them. No one distributes resources at a systemic level in a capitalist system. No one manages the system as a thing itself. Every man owns what he owns and does what he wants with it, that's it, that's the whole thing. There is no organizing system, there is no principle of ideals, there is nothing, nothing, nothing at all but property rights. That is why capitalism is a good system: It isn't one. Capitalism not only does not ensure that we will achieve the most optimal outcome for our society, but treats the very question with contempt. Let the outcome be whatever it is. Let the cards fall where they may. Let people sink or swim as they choose.

That's correct my friend, we must not interfere with the ability of private companies to do whatever they want. To suggest otherwise is an abomination to the ideals of freedom and what it means to be American.

 

[Eris!]

That's correct my friend, we must not interfere with the ability of private companies to do whatever they want. To suggest otherwise is an abomination to the ideals of freedom and what it means to be American.

I'm a private company so yeah

 

[mindlessobserver]

I've thought about what they are actually trying to do here and I think it's pretty simple. Before the goal of industrialization was to more cheaply and efficiently get products to the customer. Leading to increasing automation and standardization. Over time these industrial procedures were adapted to other things, such as food service, movie production, book production, music, advertising, etc.

Now however the goal is to do this in reverse. Increasing automation and standardization of the CUSTOMER as opposed to the product. All the power of science and government applied to create a permanent consumer class perfectly conditioned to work for and buy the products of these companies. They wont even need an Orwellian state to maintain the control either. Social media and social reputation systems will lead to the consumer class self policing itself.

 

[Ash Gassem]

Now however the goal is to do this in reverse. Increasing automation and standardization of the CUSTOMER as opposed to the product. All the power of science and government applied to create a permanent consumer class perfectly conditioned to work for and buy the products of these companies. They wont even need an Orwellian state to maintain the control either. Social media and social reputation systems will lead to the consumer class self policing itself.

Right, they won't need it, but they'll still have it as a backup.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Right, they won't need it, but they'll still have it as a backup.

Both options will fail. Rate me optimistic, but I dont subscribe to the nihilistic political theories that the teeming masses will happily offer their neck for the chains. While in college I ran into this stuff. Very smart people who believed with absolute sincerity they could mathematically quantify the human soul. I was politely ignored when I argued that human behavior is more accurately described by the "infinity" symbol rather then the "Mu" symbol. My history professors also hated me for pointing out that effect does not naturally follow cause.

Our technocratic overlords think they have unlocked the secrets of the universe with their equations, and sociology and an unholy alliance of the two. They are arrogant fools. Children playing with fire confident they are in total control.

 

[TheRedChair]

I don't see why everyone is worried about anything, our corporations operate under the greatest ideal known to mankind: capitalism. This ensures that we will achieve the most optimal outcome for our society.

Yea I know you are being sarcastic but when you are allowed to see the world of the rich and the super rich you will see that there are no words on what true evil is.

They are a parasitic Death, feeding off the backs of the poor.

 

[Overgame]

Yea I know you are being sarcastic but when you are allowed to see the world of the rich and the super rich you will see that there are no words on what true evil is.

They are a parasitic Death, feeding off the backs of the poor.

The poor wouldn't even be able to live without the rich. The rich are the who provide the backbone to civilization: They're responsible for providing food, shelter, water, and jobs. Without the rich we wouldn't have things like capitalism, democracy, mass agriculture, plumbing, electricity, architecture, technology, highways, medicine, internet, security, and video games. The poor should be thankful they're allowed to have even a scrap of what the rich have provided to society. The rich are the most useful members of society, so it's only fair that they get a larger share of the pie.

 

[PaleTay]

The poor wouldn't even be able to live without the rich. The rich are the who provide the backbone to civilization: They're responsible for providing food, shelter, water, and jobs. Without the rich we wouldn't have things like capitalism, democracy, mass agriculture, plumbing, electricity, architecture, technology, highways, medicine, internet, security, and video games. The poor should be thankful they're allowed to have even a scrap of what the rich have provided to society. The rich are the most useful members of society, so it's only fair that they get a larger share of the pie.

Largely no. You need capital to create many things, but the majority of the dynastic "rich" are massive leeches to society. Many control inefficient monopolies backed by cronyism or other forms of corruption, and maintain their power through the destruction of innovation instead of the improvement of society.

The poor are useless, but that's by design as there needs to be a consumer class for the garbage products. Without the dynastic rich, and with a more free market system we might enable the poor to create something of value.

 

[Overgame]

Largely no. You need capital to create many things, but the majority of the dynastic "rich" are massive leeches to society. Many control inefficient monopolies backed by cronyism or other forms of corruption, and maintain their power through the destruction of innovation instead of the improvement of society.

The poor are useless, but that's by design as there needs to be a consumer class for the garbage products. Without the dynastic rich, and with a more free market system we might enable the poor to create something of value.

Uhh no, that's impossible, if the rich were massive leeches to society, then why does everyone keep buying their products and making them more rich? It's because their products are the best possible products currently available to humanity thanks to our capitalistic society which ensures that everything operates at optimal efficiency. America has been operating under this system for a long time, if this was such a bad system America never would have became the world's greatest country and made leaps and bounds in improving society's quality of life and technology. If you don't like the rich, just vote with your wallet and stop buying their products. Then all of their revenue streams will dry up except for the ones coming from free market tax dollars, and they'll be less rich.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

It's because their products are the best possible products currently available to humanity

Oh yes, because the Pippin was the best possible product.

It even came with a FLOPPY DRIVE EXTENSION! Truly the best possible product in 1996 and the wave of the future. Thanks, Apple!

 

[Otterly]

I’m fine with people being rich. Be as rich as you can be.
but... pay your taxes and treat your workers fairly and don’t trash the planet or do undue harm.

case in point: the opioid crisis triggered by Purdue, who are basically the Sackler family. Drugs with a legitimate but restricted use marketed to a population they should never have been targeted to via really shitty marketing and venal greed of a lot of medical professionals who saw dollar signs for more prescriptions. That’s the kind of wealth acquisition society should be hammering down on. (But how, I know.)
Bezos treats his workers like shit. Foxconn has suicide nets around their factories. They’d all still be richer than any human could ever even spend in eons if they just tweaked business practices a bit to be less harmful. Do we have any truly philanthropic billionaires these days? That kind of business practice creates a race to the bottom in how people and planet get treated. It separates the elite from the rest of us and creates that vast gulf that has set up even the possibility of a cohort of people with sufficient power and resources to attempt this reset type stuff.

I suppose it’s very difficult to create a regulatory environment where you allow most of a free market and innovation but you still have powers to reign in the worst excesses that damage society.