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[Deftones]

If I can remember correctly, MauLer also finds Aqua Teen Hunger Force unfunny. However I could be wrong. It could have been Fringy or Rags that said that.

Aqua Teen Hunger Force is unfunny? Lol I'm not sure if I want to see what comedy shows Mauler and the gang find hilarious.

 

[Shieldman]

Jay got himself on the crosshairs of loli twitter and I thought it was funny.
https://twitter.com/JayExci/status/1330925875077017600

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

Mauler is trying to get a voice acting role for a (most likely comedic) Warhammer 40k animation by Flashgitz. So far he has not been responded to.

Here is of Flashgitz' earler Warhammer 40k videos to get the general idea of what kind of video it would most likely be like:

Also this.

 

[JonIrenicus]

IIRC, didn't Mauler say they're planning on doing an EFAP on Plinkett's prequel videos?

I think Mauler is full of shit here because he absolutely worships the ground RLM walk on.

If he did, it would be ignored as even Mike Stoklasa has admitted the Plinkett videos have aged somewhat, and RLM don't interact with fans or youtubers in the slightest. The most one can speak to them is through sending a friendly message to Jay on patreon. I don't think they bother much with their discord either.

Most they'd ever do is refer to them with a side swipe, such as when they called other reviewers pricks as an obvious joke and proceeded to make Stuckmann cry his eyes out.

 

[Johan Lindqvist]

Hey guys (especially you forum vets out there). I've been lurking here for quite a while, and have come to notice that in order to post here, it appears one is required to have a negative opinion on whoever is the subject of any particular thread. Is this more or less an accurate characterization?

I've never bothered much with Twitter, so I'm not qualified to make any judgments in that regard, but speaking as avid fan of EFAP, I find it difficult to suss out the reason for all the vitriol directed at the podcast in general, and MauLer in particular.

I've perused almost everything connected to both, and to my possibly naïve ears, MauLer seems like a stand-up guy. With Rags it gets a bit more complicated; sure, as has been amply established, he can be an absolute dick at times, but having spent literally hundreds of hours analyzing his character, he really does seem to have a surprisingly strong moral compass when it comes down to brass tacks. Heck, just listen to his drunken profession of love for his friends on Metalcommander's stream "Dranks and ghormes with the MASSIVES". It is also quite endearing that he is such a lightweight when it comes to alcohol (speaking as a proud alcoholic, it is simply fascinating to encounter someone so easily inebriated).

Anyway, just my two cents after twelwe special brews.

 

[Clorox Cowboy]

Hey guys (especially you forum vets out there). I've been lurking here for quite a while, and have come to notice that in order to post here, it appears one is required to have a negative opinion on whoever is the subject of any particular thread. Is this more or less an accurate characterization?

I've never bothered much with Twitter, so I'm not qualified to make any judgments in that regard, but speaking as avid fan of EFAP, I find it difficult to suss out the reason for all the vitriol directed at the podcast in general, and MauLer in particular.

I've perused almost everything connected to both, and to my possibly naïve ears, MauLer seems like a stand-up guy. With Rags it gets a bit more complicated; sure, as has been amply established, he can be an absolute dick at times, but having spent literally hundreds of hours analyzing his character, he really does seem to have a surprisingly strong moral compass when it comes down to brass tacks. Heck, just listen to his drunken profession of love for his friends on Metalcommander's stream "Dranks and ghormes with the MASSIVES". It is also quite endearing that he is such a lightweight when it comes to alcohol (speaking as a proud alcoholic, it is simply fascinating to encounter someone so easily inebriated).

Anyway, just my two cents after twelwe special brews.

You are very much allowed to have a positive view of the thread subject especially as this is in the multi-media section and not the general lowcow area. That being said I am inclined to believe you haven't actually read through this whole thread as there have been many people who have clearly stated the fundamental problems with both Mauler and EFAP at large.

• Mauler puts on an aura of being knowledgeable about film despite only seemingly watching 50 or so Hollywood blockbusters and a few select generally approved of older films. This doesn't lead to a well-rounded view of cinema or much of a pool to compare stuff to.
• This wouldn't even be a problem except Mauler wants to be seen as some high-brow "objectively correct" film snob, but then makes laughable claims like Infinity War being the "best, least broken" movie of the year.
• Mauler's "objective" critique is a grossly bloated plot summary which ignores any and all actual film making techniques or staging choices in favor of surface-level nitpicking a la Cinemasins.
• EFAP is a fundamentally broken format for giving serious criticism. Not only do they often cut off the video recipient mid-point, they often go off-topic needlessly lengthening the run-time.
• On top of that often EFAPs turn into character assassinations and the crew purposefully playing dumb just so they can disagree with whomever the video is on.
• Mauler and Rags literally stating that long critique is better regardless of the actual content of the critique
• Expecting people to actually respond to EFAP drivel and then getting upset when people look at the run-time and go "lol no."
• "Me, Wolf, and Rags have a special gift"
• Mauler procrastinating so hard on making edited videos he is taking his patrons for a ride.
• Generally encouraging a cult of personality around himself by basically stating that all who follow him are smart, rational, and intelligent, unlike those nasty Force Awakens fanboys.

He mainly just comes off as an idiot masquerading as an enlightened figure. "Look at my long in-depth review, nevermind the value of the actual contents! What you don't want to sit through seven hours of nit-picking? L-long man bad, haha!"

 

[biscuitscilia]

Hey guys (especially you forum vets out there). I've been lurking here for quite a while, and have come to notice that in order to post here, it appears one is required to have a negative opinion on whoever is the subject of any particular thread. Is this more or less an accurate characterization?

I've never bothered much with Twitter, so I'm not qualified to make any judgments in that regard, but speaking as avid fan of EFAP, I find it difficult to suss out the reason for all the vitriol directed at the podcast in general, and MauLer in particular.

I've perused almost everything connected to both, and to my possibly naïve ears, MauLer seems like a stand-up guy. With Rags it gets a bit more complicated; sure, as has been amply established, he can be an absolute dick at times, but having spent literally hundreds of hours analyzing his character, he really does seem to have a surprisingly strong moral compass when it comes down to brass tacks. Heck, just listen to his drunken profession of love for his friends on Metalcommander's stream "Dranks and ghormes with the MASSIVES". It is also quite endearing that he is such a lightweight when it comes to alcohol (speaking as a proud alcoholic, it is simply fascinating to encounter someone so easily inebriated).

Anyway, just my two cents after twelwe special brews.

As a user pointed out before, this thread started out being positive towards Mauler, and there are still threads on this site that like him. The issue is he doesn't accept criticism. Mauler's thread slowly started turning against him when his content output started to slow to a halt, EFAP took greater priority, and his behavior on Twitter became more hostile to critics. TheOldLurker has essentially run through some of the bigger points of contention, but it's his hostility and Sargon-tier fart huffing that makes him insufferable. EFAP is an extension of that, it feels less like a "stream with friends" and more like character assassinations geared towards people for having the "wrong opinion" on movies. That type of content is more harmful to public discourse as it makes people more weary of approaching topics, or voicing their opinions, in fear of being featured on EFAP. You could be a kid going through puberty, and they'll still cover your content.
It also pushes a sort of ignorance on film, and that objectivity is some sort of God-like entity that everyone needs to appeal to. He flip flops a lot on what he actually means by "objective critique" and if you call him out on his inconsistencies, he'll call you intellectually disingenuous or that you took him out of context.
That's why people are frustrated with him, in fact, a lot of the users on this thread used to be fans of him too. It's not that shocking that when you act like an asshole, people start to abandon you.

 

[buying gf]

That's why people are frustrated with him, in fact, a lot of the users on this thread used to be fans of him too. It's not that shocking that when you act like an asshole, people start to abandon you.

It's like Dear Leader Null (PBUH) said: "Never be smug".

 

[Johan Lindqvist]

Confidence, or simply "autism adjacent assertions" (I really am loathe to use this term, seeing as it in slangy parlance has basically come to mean "more exacting than I personally am comfortable with") are hard to separate.. Not giving a shit can easily be mistaken for smugness, though..

If I were to hazard a guess in order to simplify matters, I'd say that the EFAP brand of comedy just works for me, and (maybe most importantly) that I'm stable enough (or just perhaps narcissistic enough) to automatically ignore things they say that I don't agree with.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

Confidence, or simply "autism adjacent assertions" (I really am loathe to use this term, seeing as it in slangy parlance has basically come to mean "more exacting than I personally am comfortable with") are hard to separate.. Not giving a shit can easily be mistaken for smugness, though..

If I were to hazard a guess in order to simplify matters, I'd say that the EFAP brand of comedy just works for me, and (maybe most importantly) that I'm stable enough (or just perhaps narcissistic enough) to automatically ignore things they say that I don't agree with.

What are you even talking about? I feel like you've missed the point of what we said. It's not that we find him unfunny or disagree with him. It's large the way he acts and carries himself on Youtube and social media which we largely have a problem with.

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

Confidence, or simply "autism adjacent assertions" (I really am loathe to use this term, seeing as it in slangy parlance has basically come to mean "more exacting than I personally am comfortable with") are hard to separate.. Not giving a shit can easily be mistaken for smugness, though..

If I were to hazard a guess in order to simplify matters, I'd say that the EFAP brand of comedy just works for me, and (maybe most importantly) that I'm stable enough (or just perhaps narcissistic enough) to automatically ignore things they say that I don't agree with.

Dude I just don't like Mauler because he's a prick who abuses his following to harass anyone who even lightly ribs him.

It's not that deep.

 

[biscuitscilia]

Confidence, or simply "autism adjacent assertions" (I really am loathe to use this term, seeing as it in slangy parlance has basically come to mean "more exacting than I personally am comfortable with") are hard to separate.. Not giving a shit can easily be mistaken for smugness, though..

If I were to hazard a guess in order to simplify matters, I'd say that the EFAP brand of comedy just works for me, and (maybe most importantly) that I'm stable enough (or just perhaps narcissistic enough) to automatically ignore things they say that I don't agree with.

>"Not giving a shit"
The guy explodes at literal nobodies on Twitter for saying his videos are too long on a daily basis, I think he gives a lot of shit about what people say about him.

What are you even talking about? I feel like you've missed the point of what we said. It's not that we find him unfunny or disagree with him. It's large the way he acts and carries himself on Youtube and social media which we largely have a problem with.

I wonder if it's that Sophistic Autistic guy from his Discord server. I know he lurked on this thread before and talks about it on there, and the formal writing is kinda similar to how he writes. Though, admittedly, most of Mauler's fanbase acts like that. It really is a collective of pseudointellectuals with a fake demeanor of civility and rationality. "stable enough" lmao.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

The guy explodes at literal nobodies on Twitter for saying his videos are too long on a daily basis, I think he gives a lot of shit about what people say about him.

To be fair to MauLer, He doesn't do that too much anymore, definitely not daily. He probably realized it was wasted energy, but he still is highly defensive in general.

 

[Idiotron]

I'll add this:

MauLer is a very autistic fucker who can make good content but he prefers to spend 10 hours every now and then rambling about nothing (I've listened to one of the last EFAPs, their discussions have almost nothing to do with the videos, they're just making noise to fill time) because it makes him more money.
Wolf also had some good stuff but he ain't around anymore.
Rags is trash, all he does is throw insults around and derail conversations, he also masturbates to disgusting pics of his dog avatar
He has some weird issues with sexuality in general because every single guy they talked about has been called a virgin by him, like he's the designated alpha male of the group and he constantly has to prove himself or something.
I don't treat what he says with respect or anything.
The rest of the people are interchangeable, I hate the fat black cunt. Her laugh does the opposite for me as Rich Evans' laugh and also, and I've said this in this thread before, I think she's a genuine racist. If she was a white dude and said the kind of shit she's saying on a daily basis, she would be permabanned from Youtube, she gets away with it because she's a black woman.

The main problem is that MauLer doesn't treat his good content as his priority because he has a lot of paypigs, including 1 or 2 wealthy ones who can spam superchats all day. Why would you work when you can get free money for hanging out with your online friends?
Also, while he's not as bad as somebody like Spoony, he's kind of addicted to Twitter and it's drama.
That drama is starting to leak into his videos a bit too much, that's another problem because personally, I don't give a fuck about what this or that asshole said on Twitter, I want to hear the supposed objective critique, maybe a few jokes here and there, making fun of the movie, not social media drama.

That's what I've got right now.

 

[Johan Lindqvist]

What are you even talking about? I feel like you've missed the point of what we said. It's not that we find him unfunny or disagree with him. It's large the way he acts and carries himself on Youtube and social media which we largely have a problem with.

As I clarified initially, social media does not concern me. Sure, it may hold weight for others, but that is not relevant to my arguments.

And so: You neither disagree with him nor find him unfunny - you have a problem with how he acts and carries himself. Forgive me for saying so, but that's rather to vague for me to decipher.

And also, I'm actually rather flattered to be mistaken for Sophistic Autistic, but I doubt he speaks and writes fluent Swedish. If there are any Swedes on the forum, just test me and I'll thrash you soundly.

 

[Quintex96]

As I clarified initially, social media does not concern me. Sure, it may hold weight for others, but that is not relevant to my arguments.

And so: You neither disagree with him nor find him unfunny - you have a problem with how he acts and carries himself. Forgive me for saying so, but that's rather to vague for me to decipher.

And also, I'm actually rather flattered to be mistaken for Sophistic Autistic, but I doubt he speaks and writes fluent Swedish. If there are any Swedes on the forum, just test me and I'll thrash you soundly.

You aren't as smart as you think you are. In fact, I would accuse you of being MauLer using a sock account but your posts are way too short.

 

[Hidingfromthebotnet]

As I clarified initially, social media does not concern me. Sure, it may hold weight for others, but that is not relevant to my arguments.

And so: You neither disagree with him nor find him unfunny - you have a problem with how he acts and carries himself. Forgive me for saying so, but that's rather to vague for me to decipher.

And also, I'm actually rather flattered to be mistaken for Sophistic Autistic, but I doubt he speaks and writes fluent Swedish. If there are any Swedes on the forum, just test me and I'll thrash you soundly.

Flexing your personal ego isn't the strat you want to go with, my dude. And as others have stated before, "how he acts and carries himself" has been quite consistent. Mauler has a history, almost a pathology at this point, to react and lash out at even the tiniest criticism on social media. While social media does not concern you, it certainly seems to be something that Mauler takes very seriously. In addition, that very same need to react to social media posts has begun to leak into, and degrade, his critiques. It's hard to take a 3 hour video seriously when a sixth of the run time is dedicated towards whinging at whatever tweet has upset Mauler at the time, and it certainly hurts his credibility as an "objective" reviewer.

 

[Korpon]

Hey guys (especially you forum vets out there). I've been lurking here for quite a while, and have come to notice that in order to post here, it appears one is required to have a negative opinion on whoever is the subject of any particular thread. Is this more or less an accurate characterization?

I've never bothered much with Twitter, so I'm not qualified to make any judgments in that regard, but speaking as avid fan of EFAP, I find it difficult to suss out the reason for all the vitriol directed at the podcast in general, and MauLer in particular.

I've perused almost everything connected to both, and to my possibly naïve ears, MauLer seems like a stand-up guy. With Rags it gets a bit more complicated; sure, as has been amply established, he can be an absolute dick at times, but having spent literally hundreds of hours analyzing his character, he really does seem to have a surprisingly strong moral compass when it comes down to brass tacks. Heck, just listen to his drunken profession of love for his friends on Metalcommander's stream "Dranks and ghormes with the MASSIVES". It is also quite endearing that he is such a lightweight when it comes to alcohol (speaking as a proud alcoholic, it is simply fascinating to encounter someone so easily inebriated).

Anyway, just my two cents after twelwe special brews.

 

[Elescondido]

As a user pointed out before, this thread started out being positive towards Mauler, and there are still threads on this site that like him. The issue is he doesn't accept criticism. Mauler's thread slowly started turning against him when his content output started to slow to a halt, EFAP took greater priority, and his behavior on Twitter became more hostile to critics. TheOldLurker has essentially run through some of the bigger points of contention, but it's his hostility and Sargon-tier fart huffing that makes him insufferable. EFAP is an extension of that, it feels less like a "stream with friends" and more like character assassinations geared towards people for having the "wrong opinion" on movies. That type of content is more harmful to public discourse as it makes people more weary of approaching topics, or voicing their opinions, in fear of being featured on EFAP. You could be a kid going through puberty, and they'll still cover your content.
It also pushes a sort of ignorance on film, and that objectivity is some sort of God-like entity that everyone needs to appeal to. He flip flops a lot on what he actually means by "objective critique" and if you call him out on his inconsistencies, he'll call you intellectually disingenuous or that you took him out of context.
That's why people are frustrated with him, in fact, a lot of the users on this thread used to be fans of him too. It's not that shocking that when you act like an asshole, people start to abandon you.

Do those threads like him? or just hate the same things/people as him

 

[Raging Capybara]

And also, I'm actually rather flattered to be mistaken for Sophistic Autistic, but I doubt he speaks and writes fluent Swedish

You can't even spell in English, motherfucker.

but that's rather to vague for me