Wuhan Coronavirus: Lockdowns, Quarantines, Cancellations

I wonder how all these lockdowns and closings are going to affect US Social Security and food stamp programs. Social Security Retirement is based on a life's earned income, and people can't go to work.
Food stamps (SNAP, EBT) is so tied to the agricultural business you can't have one without the other, and if anything happens to the big farms then food assistance will be screwed.
Thinking back a year or so to how these agencies are always pleading poverty and folks were concerned that America would have so many poor people that the social programs would run out of funds...yeah what the hell.

 
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Doesn't help that prices have gone down for flights and hotels, I'm sure they're shitting up cities like Las Vegas or places in Flordia by causing more outbreaks in fight and being gross overall.
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I went to Vegas late this summer. I've never seen the strip so trashy before. Literally and metaphorically. There were loads of inner city ghetto trash and gang banger types. Along with piles of garbage everywhere and overflowing cans. Maybe not more trashy people than usual in an absolute sense but there weren't any foreign tourists or Nightclub goers and fewer places open to dilute them out. There was loads of trash especially by the CVS between Ballys and Paris. There were also about 3-4 times more loiterers hanging outside there too.

I don't recall there being any fights but while I was taking a shit in one casino there was an agrivated dude aggressively yelling on his phone about not caring if some one is a blood or crip he's gonna kill a nigga. I also came across a white dude yelling at me from across the street about how some other person is a white nigger and to stay away from them but I think that was just a typical north strip crazy person.
 
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Aqua Panda said:
Already seeing carts full of toilet paper again.
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Oh goddamn it.

And you just know it was the same fuckers who hoarded it the first time. It's like a compulsion to buy up certain things whenever they are feeling stressed about the future. <insert .22lr rant>
 
ColtWalker1847 said:
Oh goddamn it.

And you just know it was the same fuckers who hoarded it the first time. It's like a compulsion to buy up certain things whenever they are feeling stressed about the future. <insert .22lr rant>
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People were buying so much last time that I'm betting it isn't the same people but instead all those who got burned last time. They learned their lesson about letting others beat them to the punch. The OG TP panic buyers are probably eating taco bell every day just to try and use it all within their lifetime.
 
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Joshuan Moon said:
People were buying so much last time that I'm betting it isn't the same people but instead all those who got burned last time. They learned their lesson about letting others beat them to the punch. The OG TP panic buyers are probably eating taco bell every day just to try and use it all within their lifetime.
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That is assuming the folks that bought all that shit properly stored it. Folks who knee-jerk buy large quantities of consumer crap aren't exactly known for their acumen in proper care and storage of their purchases. Y'dig?

I'd say a good portion of that TP is a rat eaten mess in the shed that the dog pissed on. That's why hoarding crap is so detrimental. If decent amount of it ever was actually used for it's intended purpose in the future we wouldn't have an issue. But they just mindlessly buy it and shove it into a corner until it's no good anymore.

There are piles of MREs out there from Y2K that even Steve1989 wouldn't touch. But the numbnuts hoarders still got them and are buying more. Same deal here.
 

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Effective this Friday, November 20, Minnesotans will be asked to stay home for four weeks.

  • All bars and restaurants will end dine-in service and operate exclusively with takeout or delivery.
  • Fitness centers will be closed.
  • Sports practices and competitions will be canceled (professional and collegiate sports will continue).
  • Weddings, funerals, and other similar celebrations can be held with the current rules in place, but all receptions and gatherings around these ceremonies must be canceled.

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The most significant and perhaps most challenging restriction comes at a difficult time, when we would normally be gathering with our extended families for holiday celebrations.

  • Minnesotans should not gather with anyone outside their immediate household, whether indoors or outdoors, for any reason.
  • During the next four weeks we are also asking that no person outside of the immediate household be brought into your home.
Within these guidelines is the opportunity to celebrate with those you already live with, but in order to protect our most vulnerable Minnesotans, we are urging you to reconsider any gathering that bring people of different households together.
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Thanksgiving 2020: Live Free Or Die edition.
 
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ColtWalker1847 said:
That is assuming the folks that bought all that shit properly stored it. Folks who knee-jerk buy large quantities of consumer crap aren't exactly known for their acumen in proper care and storage of their purchases. Y'dig?

I'd say a good portion of that TP is a rat eaten mess in the shed that the dog pissed on. That's why hoarding crap is so detrimental. If decent amount of it ever was actually used for it's intended purpose in the future we wouldn't have an issue. But they just mindlessly buy it and shove it into a corner until it's no good anymore.

There are piles of MREs out there from Y2K that even Steve1989 wouldn't touch. But the numbnuts hoarders still got them and are buying more. Same deal here.
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A valid point. The kind of people who panic buy aren't likely to take proper care of their goods owing to the fact that they needed to panic buy in the first place. Prepared people already had what they needed and at most only needed to supplement.

With most stores implementing limits on paper products right away this time around it's a little harder for me to belive its just a few people buying way more than they need instead of it being lots more people buying a pack just in case, even if they don't need it right away.

In my own case I had bought TP shortly before the first round and since I don't shit a million times a day and buy in bulk to maximize that value per square inch I am still on that same pack. My issue: I needed to buy some TP last week and the store I went to was out. We will see if the reassurances that supplies can keep up are true.
 
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With most stores implementing limits on paper products right away this time around it's a little harder for me to belive its just a few people buying way more than they need instead of it being lots more people buying a pack just in case, even if they don't need it right away.
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Eh. The 22lr shortage was driven by a perception of scarcity that drove the same people to buy more and more whenever it became available. The "I'll get another box, it never goes bad" folks that every time they went to the store they bought the limit when they wouldn't have bought any before.

This went on for years.

That said, paper products are a bit more plentiful in society than CCI Mini-Mags. So hopefully this time around the TP panic is over quickly.
 
Joshuan Moon said:
With most stores implementing limits on paper products right away this time around it's a little harder for me to belive its just a few people buying way more than they need instead of it being lots more people buying a pack just in case, even if they don't need it right away.

In my own case I had bought TP shortly before the first round and since I don't shit a million times a day and buy in bulk to maximize that value per square inch I am still on that same pack. My issue: I needed to buy some TP last week and the store I went to was out. We will see if the reassurances that supplies can keep up are true.
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The toilet paper thing was ginned up hard by the media. There was no shortage in my area until the local TV started showing "empty shelves" that caused people to panic buy.

Noticed them doing exactly the same thing again a few days ago.
 
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The toilet paper thing was ginned up hard by the media. There was no shortage in my area until the local TV started showing "empty shelves" that caused people to panic buy.

Noticed them doing exactly the same thing again a few days ago.
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Reminds me of that one time my mom had a hard time finding ibuprofen because some bloke on the news said that brexit MIGHT lead to a painkiller shortage so everyone panic bought it all.
 
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Thanksgiving 2020: Live Free Or Die edition.
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Our leaders sure are intent on making us as fucking miserable as humanly possible this year, aren't they?

Outside of them slapping us with their dicks, what's the point of perpetuating a practice that didn't work the first time?
 
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I've heard a lot of panicking that Dec 15th will be a date for lockdowns across much of the US, at least in states with aggressive Democrat governors. And I was thinking there might be something to that.

They say it takes 14 days after contact to know if someone is infected, real infection rates, etc. They are softballing a lot of the Thanksgiving lockdowns by doing "suggestions" to not travel and limits on people being together but not forcing police enforcement. And of course, Black Friday will show some spike in shopping and retail traffic even if it's nowhere near previous years.

That means that right around Friday 12/11 they can point to upticks in numbers to say "see, family gatherings and shopping caused outbreaks! Christmas is cancelled! Malls and stores are closed again! Back to Phase 1!" That would ensure people were locked in their homes for Christmas and New Years. At that point, they could just keep everything locked down in the US til Inauguration Day and roll out the vaccine under a Biden administration at their leisure, controlling reopenings through the spring at a slow rate.

So if we're going to be shut down for Christmas, we'll know in a little over 2 weeks. If there isn't a big enough spike that even the media can't spin into hysterics, they'll have to leave things open.

Also, it looks like Congress is slated to be in session til 12/21. That give them 10 days to work out a stimulus. Of course, behind the scenes states are probably trying to streamline the unemployment process to make it easier this time to hand out money. The way payrolls usually work, most people who work through 12/14 will still get one last check the week before Christmas, and if they can get govt money flowing there won't be too much time for people to go without funds.
 
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FuckedUp said:
Remember in June when I was panicking in the main thread over how things seemed to be reversing course and might actually be intended to be permanent, and everyone told me I was just being paranoid?
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You never made such a post.

There is no threat from the SARS-CoV-2 that obeying the restrictions set by the government won't defeat.

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
 
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