Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

It was hyperlinked in the original post that was quoted. Here: https://washingtondailyreport.com/years-denying-israel-finally/ (2019)
The article is an excerpt from another website which cites the original article from Haaretz about it https://archive.md/Ho157 (2013)

More importantly, there was a follow up by DailyBeast https://archive.md/dJjv3 (2017)

Which makes it seem like it was a sensationalist article for no good, a mistake reason smearing Israel. However, the writer continues,


Then after a brief leap back to mental gymnastics...

...the article writer again says she refuses to dismiss the women as liars until they are proven so by the Israeli government's investigation. Mind you, this was being suspected for a long time before the Haaretz article in 2013 due to the birthrate decline to begin with.

I know some people want to titter and giggle "lol /pol/ conspiracy theory" and I don't expect anyone to look at my post history like some obsessive autist to prove otherwise (though it would), so I'll just say clearly that I didn't link that article or even write this post because "muh Jews".

I brought up this subject in the original post to show that the notion "enforced vaccination has absolutely nothing potentially dangerous about it" is itself a dangerous delusion--not even including the fact that the vaccination development process for Covid has been rushed across the board as openly admitted (though they argue "for good reason considering the pandemic") and so we wouldn't even have the proper research of potential side effects ( https://vaers.hhs.gov/ ), short or long-term, compared to the normative process.
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(This doesn't even approach something I just discovered regarding a vaccine black market out of China...great https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...in-china-raises-fears-of-booming-black-market )

All of this is in light of what has already been proposed: https://www.foxnews.com/media/alan-dershowitz-forced-coronavirus-vaccinations-are-constitutional
My point was that this idea was being floated around already in the broad public sphere and not something relegated to nutjobs, let alone just /pol/ or /crazy/ or whatever. The idea has already been put out there and the dangers inherent in it are already out there.

Couple that with proposed vaccination ID https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENC...ould-be-gamechanger-for-tests-vaccines-624028

Again, this isn't fringe or "muh Jews" or whatnot. This is all out there, all being considered, argued for/against, proposed, etc. It's a major, major issue that people even itt just scoff at without using their brain. I'm not saying "eh, forego vaccinations entirely and just avoid Polio". I'm bringing up reality.

It may not be "blargh! Grab that man, inject him in the street!" insanity like Dershowitz (a familiar name regarding Epstein) suggested but rather simply that if you don't get vaccinated (because you're waiting to see the results of vaccination first instead of just imbibing whatever is given to you into your bloodstream, like countless professionals have been suggesting) you won't be issued an ID, and without an ID you won't be able to fully function in society. The authoritarian mandates already in place even just for a holiday show this is a potential direction they can be inclined to go "for your safety".

It sounds crazy if not for the continual calls for protracted shut-downs, the proposition of vaccination IDs (as seen even before all this in the movie "Contagion", which was co-created with the help renown and influential virologist Larry Brilliant who himself also suggested such a thing be implemented in a livestream regarding Coronavirus), etc. Not to mention other instances where, for whatever given goal, government screwed with vaccination processes. which led to greater mistrust not just about their development but their application.

Mind you, it's not like all of this is relegated to Biden winning/losing. Trump is not a savior or saint, as I again repeated in the post that was quoted for giggles itt. Even if Trump won the powers that be would remain--entitled evil rich people wanting their weird Great Reset global socialist dystopia.
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However, the difference is Reps/Trump pushing for less lock-downs and Dems/Biden pushing for more. It's shown by the current overreach of authorities with a lack of scientifically verified universal health regulations (i.e. "You can't have Thanksgiving with more than ten people and stay sic feet apart" in one state, but in another state it's "nine feet apart" and in another country it's twelve or whatever, never mind the fact that it's been proven how masks or no, six feet or ten feet, being/breathing in the same air as someone infected (even if they left the room long after you entered) can get you potentially infected because of the stagnant air of a room as opposed to the open air of outside, where they still want people wearing masks anyway). And again, none of this is even touching on the proven success of simply taking measurable precautions around what we have come to know of the virus and its affects on those most vulnerable.
I say this as someone with an immune problem.

Also just for posterity I say "socialist" regarding Biden/Harris with reference to the worldview and application inherent in the legislature being proposed in the Equality Act, Green New Deal, the whole mandatory buy-back for firearms thing, the concept of Racial Equity (and the madness of the "Great Reset" but that's a problem behind either side), etc. Not that I think Biden or Kamala are somehow gonna pull their faces off on inauguration day and prove they were clones of Mao all along.

I know most of you won't pay attention to this and, like that one moderator did in another thread, will just think I'm "screaming".
Whatever, but I know that some of you will at least take the time to skim what I wrote here. Crazy as it sounds, my frustration and further isn't because "my faggot didn't win" nor is it because "muh Jews", as if my neighbor old Mr. Harowitz down the block is somehow part of a global conspiracy by the Jewish race.
I hate Hitler. I hate Stalin. I hate CCP. I hate Socialism, national or otherwise, even if its entwined with aspects of corporatism, the seemingly inevitable poison of perverted capitalism.

Equally I hate willful ignorance, and anyone who was around for the mass self-brainwashing of 8chan into "meme magic kek gods god emperor" would see the parallels of reality avoidance with what's going on now. People back then were overlooking Trump's bloviation, what he did with Syria, connections to Epstein and others like him (it goes a long way back but I forget the names) etc. because "4D chess!".

Like the Trumpites, Bidenbros today are overlooking fundamental aspects, fractional voting, proposed legislation, because "Now we're winning!",
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So in short and to reference the reason for my original post which was quoted here, I'm not mad "my faggot didn't win".
I'm mad at the willful ignorance and its enablers tossing everyone, including themselves, into the fire just because they're desperate for an anti-Trump win.

Scoffing won't make reality go away
(not directed at you in particular, just broadly speaking. I clarify this because that one moderator in another thread thought everything I wrote was specifically about him when I quoted him and I don't want people making that same mistake again)
"Will you take the vaccine?"
No
"Do you understand if you deny it you will be killed?"
I know


Well done good and faithful servant.
 
That would honestly be just desserts for the GOP. This is the monster they created, they've got to deal with it.
The Democrats need to learn how to ratfuck. It's going to be important in the years ahead.

By the way, you may have heard Trump supporters crowing about that "release the Kraken" shit. Apparently the lawsuit they were talking about got filed today. It misspells the word "district" twice in the title.
 
The Democrats need to learn how to ratfuck. It's going to be important in the years ahead.

By the way, you may have heard Trump supporters crowing about that "release the Kraken" shit. Apparently the lawsuit they were talking about got filed today. It misspells the word "district" twice in the title.
According to the election thread this was on purpose so the MSM would talk about it. Sounds like you're not trusting the plan enough fellow kekpede.
 
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It was hyperlinked in the original post that was quoted. Here: https://washingtondailyreport.com/years-denying-israel-finally/ (2019)
The article is an excerpt from another website which cites the original article from Haaretz about it https://archive.md/Ho157 (2013)

More importantly, there was a follow up by DailyBeast https://archive.md/dJjv3 (2017)

Which makes it seem like it was a sensationalist article for no good, a mistake reason smearing Israel. However, the writer continues,


Then after a brief leap back to mental gymnastics...

...the article writer again says she refuses to dismiss the women as liars until they are proven so by the Israeli government's investigation. Mind you, this was being suspected for a long time before the Haaretz article in 2013 due to the birthrate decline to begin with.

I know some people want to titter and giggle "lol /pol/ conspiracy theory" and I don't expect anyone to look at my post history like some obsessive autist to prove otherwise (though it would), so I'll just say clearly that I didn't link that article or even write this post because "muh Jews".

I brought up this subject in the original post to show that the notion "enforced vaccination has absolutely nothing potentially dangerous about it" is itself a dangerous delusion--not even including the fact that the vaccination development process for Covid has been rushed across the board as openly admitted (though they argue "for good reason considering the pandemic") and so we wouldn't even have the proper research of potential side effects ( https://vaers.hhs.gov/ ), short or long-term, compared to the normative process.
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(This doesn't even approach something I just discovered regarding a vaccine black market out of China...great https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...in-china-raises-fears-of-booming-black-market )

All of this is in light of what has already been proposed: https://www.foxnews.com/media/alan-dershowitz-forced-coronavirus-vaccinations-are-constitutional
My point was that this idea was being floated around already in the broad public sphere and not something relegated to nutjobs, let alone just /pol/ or /crazy/ or whatever. The idea has already been put out there and the dangers inherent in it are already out there.

Couple that with proposed vaccination ID https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENC...ould-be-gamechanger-for-tests-vaccines-624028

Again, this isn't fringe or "muh Jews" or whatnot. This is all out there, all being considered, argued for/against, proposed, etc. It's a major, major issue that people even itt just scoff at without using their brain. I'm not saying "eh, forego vaccinations entirely and just avoid Polio". I'm bringing up reality.

It may not be "blargh! Grab that man, inject him in the street!" insanity like Dershowitz (a familiar name regarding Epstein) suggested but rather simply that if you don't get vaccinated (because you're waiting to see the results of vaccination first instead of just imbibing whatever is given to you into your bloodstream, like countless professionals have been suggesting) you won't be issued an ID, and without an ID you won't be able to fully function in society. The authoritarian mandates already in place even just for a holiday show this is a potential direction they can be inclined to go "for your safety".

It sounds crazy if not for the continual calls for protracted shut-downs, the proposition of vaccination IDs (as seen even before all this in the movie "Contagion", which was co-created with the help renown and influential virologist Larry Brilliant who himself also suggested such a thing be implemented in a livestream regarding Coronavirus), etc. Not to mention other instances where, for whatever given goal, government screwed with vaccination processes. which led to greater mistrust not just about their development but their application.

Mind you, it's not like all of this is relegated to Biden winning/losing. Trump is not a savior or saint, as I again repeated in the post that was quoted for giggles itt. Even if Trump won the powers that be would remain--entitled evil rich people wanting their weird Great Reset global socialist dystopia.
View attachment 1749999

However, the difference is Reps/Trump pushing for less lock-downs and Dems/Biden pushing for more. It's shown by the current overreach of authorities with a lack of scientifically verified universal health regulations (i.e. "You can't have Thanksgiving with more than ten people and stay sic feet apart" in one state, but in another state it's "nine feet apart" and in another country it's twelve or whatever, never mind the fact that it's been proven how masks or no, six feet or ten feet, being/breathing in the same air as someone infected (even if they left the room long after you entered) can get you potentially infected because of the stagnant air of a room as opposed to the open air of outside, where they still want people wearing masks anyway). And again, none of this is even touching on the proven success of simply taking measurable precautions around what we have come to know of the virus and its affects on those most vulnerable.
I say this as someone with an immune problem.

Also just for posterity I say "socialist" regarding Biden/Harris with reference to the worldview and application inherent in the legislature being proposed in the Equality Act, Green New Deal, the whole mandatory buy-back for firearms thing, the concept of Racial Equity (and the madness of the "Great Reset" but that's a problem behind either side), etc. Not that I think Biden or Kamala are somehow gonna pull their faces off on inauguration day and prove they were clones of Mao all along.

I know most of you won't pay attention to this and, like that one moderator did in another thread, will just think I'm "screaming".
Whatever, but I know that some of you will at least take the time to skim what I wrote here. Crazy as it sounds, my frustration and further isn't because "my faggot didn't win" nor is it because "muh Jews", as if my neighbor old Mr. Harowitz down the block is somehow part of a global conspiracy by the Jewish race.
I hate Hitler. I hate Stalin. I hate CCP. I hate Socialism, national or otherwise, even if its entwined with aspects of corporatism, the seemingly inevitable poison of perverted capitalism.

Equally I hate willful ignorance, and anyone who was around for the mass self-brainwashing of 8chan into "meme magic kek gods god emperor" would see the parallels of reality avoidance with what's going on now. People back then were overlooking Trump's bloviation, what he did with Syria, connections to Epstein and others like him (it goes a long way back but I forget the names) etc. because "4D chess!".

Like the Trumpites, Bidenbros today are overlooking fundamental aspects, fractional voting, proposed legislation, because "Now we're winning!",
View attachment 1750000

So in short and to reference the reason for my original post which was quoted here, I'm not mad "my faggot didn't win".
I'm mad at the willful ignorance and its enablers tossing everyone, including themselves, into the fire just because they're desperate for an anti-Trump win.

Scoffing won't make reality go away
(not directed at you in particular, just broadly speaking. I clarify this because that one moderator in another thread thought everything I wrote was specifically about him when I quoted him and I don't want people making that same mistake again)
Nibba, I ain't readin all that. Condense, mothafucka, condense.
 
Nibba, I ain't readin all that. Condense, mothafucka, condense.
Okay:
Israel "forced inoculations" sterilize Ethiopian Jews? Forced vaccines for Covid? Possible. Rushed vaccines bad. Black market vaccines?! No vaccine ID no good? Larry Brilliant. Shut down, shut down! Dems and Reps, but moreso Dems. Six feet or ten feet? Great Reset?! Trump no good. Biden/Kamala no good. Gib want more gib. Equality Act: Desmond thread but as civil rights law. Hitler bad! Stalin bad! CCP bad! Stupid bad? Fractional voting. 4D Chess stupid. Ignorance stupid.
Laughing doesn't make it not real.
 
Okay:
Israel "forced inoculations" sterilize Ethiopian Jews? Forced vaccines for Covid? Possible. Rushed vaccines bad. Black market vaccines?! No vaccine ID no good? Larry Brilliant. Shut down, shut down! Dems and Reps, but moreso Dems. Six feet or ten feet? Great Reset?! Trump no good. Biden/Kamala no good. Gib want more gib. Equality Act: Desmond thread but as civil rights law. Hitler bad! Stalin bad! CCP bad! Stupid bad? Fractional voting. 4D Chess stupid. Ignorance stupid.
Laughing doesn't make it not real.

Finally, you're much more eloquent in your native unga bunga language.
 
Okay:
Israel "forced inoculations" sterilize Ethiopian Jews? Forced vaccines for Covid? Possible. Rushed vaccines bad. Black market vaccines?! No vaccine ID no good? Larry Brilliant. Shut down, shut down! Dems and Reps, but moreso Dems. Six feet or ten feet? Great Reset?! Trump no good. Biden/Kamala no good. Gib want more gib. Equality Act: Desmond thread but as civil rights law. Hitler bad! Stalin bad! CCP bad! Stupid bad? Fractional voting. 4D Chess stupid. Ignorance stupid.
Laughing doesn't make it not real.
It’s shorter but still lol calm down.
 
It was hyperlinked in the original post that was quoted. Here: https://washingtondailyreport.com/years-denying-israel-finally/ (2019)
The article is an excerpt from another website which cites the original article from Haaretz about it https://archive.md/Ho157 (2013)

More importantly, there was a follow up by DailyBeast https://archive.md/dJjv3 (2017)

Which makes it seem like it was a sensationalist article for no good, a mistake reason smearing Israel. However, the writer continues,


Then after a brief leap back to mental gymnastics...

...the article writer again says she refuses to dismiss the women as liars until they are proven so by the Israeli government's investigation. Mind you, this was being suspected for a long time before the Haaretz article in 2013 due to the birthrate decline to begin with.

I know some people want to titter and giggle "lol /pol/ conspiracy theory" and I don't expect anyone to look at my post history like some obsessive autist to prove otherwise (though it would), so I'll just say clearly that I didn't link that article or even write this post because "muh Jews".

So you are saying America, possibly the freest country on Earth, is going to forcefully inject harmful chemical marking as Covid vaccine to you without your consent? It just shows you that you have no trust in the American governmental system, especially when the system is still under Trump's hand.
Also, the vaccine that is developing at the moment is under Trump's watch. If you are afraid of using it then it means that you don't even trust in Trump's ability as a president that can distinguish a deadly unfinished vaccine from a life-saving vaccine.

I brought up this subject in the original post to show that the notion "enforced vaccination has absolutely nothing potentially dangerous about it" is itself a dangerous delusion--not even including the fact that the vaccination development process for Covid has been rushed across the board as openly admitted (though they argue "for good reason considering the pandemic") and so we wouldn't even have the proper research of potential side effects ( https://vaers.hhs.gov/ ), short or long-term, compared to the normative process.
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(This doesn't even approach something I just discovered regarding a vaccine black market out of China...great https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...in-china-raises-fears-of-booming-black-market )

All of this is in light of what has already been proposed: https://www.foxnews.com/media/alan-dershowitz-forced-coronavirus-vaccinations-are-constitutional
My point was that this idea was being floated around already in the broad public sphere and not something relegated to nutjobs, let alone just /pol/ or /crazy/ or whatever. The idea has already been put out there and the dangers inherent in it are already out there.

Couple that with proposed vaccination ID https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENC...ould-be-gamechanger-for-tests-vaccines-624028

Again, this isn't fringe or "muh Jews" or whatnot. This is all out there, all being considered, argued for/against, proposed, etc. It's a major, major issue that people even itt just scoff at without using their brain. I'm not saying "eh, forego vaccinations entirely and just avoid Polio". I'm bringing up reality.

Sure, a rushed vaccine is dangerous. But notice that in your cited picture that it said that the EUA for the vaccine will only be administrated if enough data show that the vaccine is useful if there is no other way to save someone before the completion of the clinical trial. I don't think a vaccine that passed through the whole testing trail but just not the late stage of the clinical trial to have an extremely serious unforeseen side-effect. But everything is possible.

It may not be "blargh! Grab that man, inject him in the street!" insanity like Dershowitz (a familiar name regarding Epstein) suggested but rather simply that if you don't get vaccinated (because you're waiting to see the results of vaccination first instead of just imbibing whatever is given to you into your bloodstream, like countless professionals have been suggesting) you won't be issued an ID, and without an ID you won't be able to fully function in society. The authoritarian mandates already in place even just for a holiday show this is a potential direction they can be inclined to go "for your safety".

It sounds crazy if not for the continual calls for protracted shut-downs, the proposition of vaccination IDs (as seen even before all this in the movie "Contagion", which was co-created with the help renown and influential virologist Larry Brilliant who himself also suggested such a thing be implemented in a livestream regarding Coronavirus), etc. Not to mention other instances where, for whatever given goal, government screwed with vaccination processes. which led to greater mistrust not just about their development but their application.

Mind you, it's not like all of this is relegated to Biden winning/losing. Trump is not a savior or saint, as I again repeated in the post that was quoted for giggles itt. Even if Trump won the powers that be would remain--entitled evil rich people wanting their weird Great Reset global socialist dystopia.
The article you cited only shows that if you get the vaccine, you will get maybe a tick on the digital id card of yours that shows that you are vaccinated, just like your fingerprint or your gender. It does not say anything like 'You No Vaccine, You No Human'.

However, the difference is Reps/Trump pushing for less lock-downs and Dems/Biden pushing for more. It's shown by the current overreach of authorities with a lack of scientifically verified universal health regulations (i.e. "You can't have Thanksgiving with more than ten people and stay sic feet apart" in one state, but in another state it's "nine feet apart" and in another country it's twelve or whatever, never mind the fact that it's been proven how masks or no, six feet or ten feet, being/breathing in the same air as someone infected (even if they left the room long after you entered) can get you potentially infected because of the stagnant air of a room as opposed to the open air of outside, where they still want people wearing masks anyway). And again, none of this is even touching on the proven success of simply taking measurable precautions around what we have come to know of the virus and its affects on those most vulnerable.
I say this as someone with an immune problem.

Also just for posterity I say "socialist" regarding Biden/Harris with reference to the worldview and application inherent in the legislature being proposed in the Equality Act, Green New Deal, the whole mandatory buy-back for firearms thing, the concept of Racial Equity (and the madness of the "Great Reset" but that's a problem behind either side), etc. Not that I think Biden or Kamala are somehow gonna pull their faces off on inauguration day and prove they were clones of Mao all along.

I know most of you won't pay attention to this and, like that one moderator did in another thread, will just think I'm "screaming".
Whatever, but I know that some of you will at least take the time to skim what I wrote here. Crazy as it sounds, my frustration and further isn't because "my faggot didn't win" nor is it because "muh Jews", as if my neighbor old Mr. Harowitz down the block is somehow part of a global conspiracy by the Jewish race.
I hate Hitler. I hate Stalin. I hate CCP. I hate Socialism, national or otherwise, even if its entwined with aspects of corporatism, the seemingly inevitable poison of perverted capitalism.

Equally I hate willful ignorance, and anyone who was around for the mass self-brainwashing of 8chan into "meme magic kek gods god emperor" would see the parallels of reality avoidance with what's going on now. People back then were overlooking Trump's bloviation, what he did with Syria, connections to Epstein and others like him (it goes a long way back but I forget the names) etc. because "4D chess!".

Like the Trumpites, Bidenbros today are overlooking fundamental aspects, fractional voting, proposed legislation, because "Now we're winning!",
It is interesting that you have mentioned that you can get infected by the virus when you stay within a room with a carrier. If what you say is correct (which I think it is), then wouldn't establishing lockdown a good move to cut off the chain of infection? By reducing the chance of non-carrier to make contact with a carrier, the chance of transmission will be minimized. (Of course, it is to presume that the people living with you are not carriers. But considering that most of the first cases within an immediate family are infected by contact with people outside of their immediate family, eg: classmates, colleague, that asshole stranger who will not wear a mask, it will be a good way to minimize infection by going into lockdown)
I think you would understand that no contact with the contagion means very little chance of infection, considering that you say you have an immune problem.


To clarify, I am not here to fight you or anything, just trying to express my own opinion on your opinion.
 
Okay:
Israel "forced inoculations" sterilize Ethiopian Jews? Forced vaccines for Covid? Possible. Rushed vaccines bad. Black market vaccines?! No vaccine ID no good? Larry Brilliant. Shut down, shut down! Dems and Reps, but moreso Dems. Six feet or ten feet? Great Reset?! Trump no good. Biden/Kamala no good. Gib want more gib. Equality Act: Desmond thread but as civil rights law. Hitler bad! Stalin bad! CCP bad! Stupid bad? Fractional voting. 4D Chess stupid. Ignorance stupid.
Laughing doesn't make it not real.
>thinks Americans will willingly let themselves be forcefully vaccinated
>irl Americans resist even just being asked to wear a fucking mask


Dude.
 
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So you are saying America, possibly the freest country on Earth, is going to forcefully inject harmful chemical marking as Covid vaccine to you without your consent? It just shows you that you have no trust in the American governmental system, especially when the system is still under Trump's hand.
Also, the vaccine that is developing at the moment is under Trump's watch. If you are afraid of using it then it means that you don't even trust in Trump's ability as a president that can distinguish a deadly unfinished vaccine from a life-saving vaccine.



Sure, a rushed vaccine is dangerous. But notice that in your cited picture that it said that the EUA for the vaccine will only be administrated if enough data show that the vaccine is useful if there is no other way to save someone before the completion of the clinical trial. I don't think a vaccine that passed through the whole testing trail but just not the late stage of the clinical trial to have an extremely serious unforeseen side-effect. But everything is possible.


The article you cited only shows that if you get the vaccine, you will get maybe a tick on the digital id card of yours that shows that you are vaccinated, just like your fingerprint or your gender. It does not say anything like 'You No Vaccine, You No Human'.


It is interesting that you have mentioned that you can get infected by the virus when you stay within a room with a carrier. If what you say is correct (which I think it is), then wouldn't establishing lockdown a good move to cut off the chain of infection? By reducing the chance of non-carrier to make contact with a carrier, the chance of transmission will be minimized. (Of course, it is to presume that the people living with you are not carriers. But considering that most of the first cases within an immediate family are infected by contact with people outside of their immediate family, eg: classmates, colleague, that asshole stranger who will not wear a mask, it will be a good way to minimize infection by going into lockdown)
I think you would understand that no contact with the contagion means very little chance of infection, considering that you say you have an immune problem.


To clarify, I am not here to fight you or anything, just trying to express my own opinion on your opinion.
You think that his arguments contradict, but I'll say you're wrong, because you haven't identified his actual argument, which is "I am opposed to anything the mainstream media says as a matter of principle, no matter how incoherent this makes me."
 
So you are saying America, possibly the freest country on Earth, is going to forcefully inject harmful chemical marking as Covid vaccine to you without your consent?
I'm saying that the potential that there can be damaging elements included, be it purposefully or through negligence via rushed vaccination development, is not only possible but already a subject of major expose/investigation elsewhere (that there's precedent). It's not just conjured by a mind crowned in a tinfoil hat.

That China has rushed its vaccines the hardest and is now in the process of helping distribute them internationally is another point (Russia was mentioned too), and then there's videos like this where even Dr. Fauci, who just back in September warned against China-style rush to vaccines, now speaks about being "encouraged" by the fact that no one's reported adverse effects in the few months it's been available:
As if this span of time is all it takes to truly discern anything.

Also, this is from September
This is from this month.

Understand that there's more going on here than just people pooling together to try and save lives. Major corporations want fat money and vaccines seems to make bank, especially when you're the top dog at the finish line, but there's also geopolitical waves going on as a result as well.
I mention this not because I worry that companies racing for a vaccine on the USA's behalf will take notes from China's companies (Chinese companies are owned by and/or beholden to the CCP btw it's their economic and political system) but because of the precedent it all sets and, again, because of the blind trust people have over all of this.

And it would certainly be mandatory. NYC Cuomo already publicly addressed how appalled he was that police officers aren't willing to check if people have more than 10 people over for Thanksgiving. Politicians are exercising authoritarian overreach, as I said, with little to no real scientific universal standards in their mandates (hence the "six people or ten" remark and what I mentioned later).

It would be mandatory. How would such a mandate be implemented? As I said, probably not by police jamming needles into people like Alan Dershowitz literally said they could (look it up, it was a live interview).
Rather it'd likely by vaccination IDs or, as mentioned regarding the Israel articles, making it mandatory during transit or travel.

Ultimately there is too much going on and too much floundering on key issues--especially vaccination development and safety data--from all sides to simply be copacetic with the idea of potentially being forced to get a Covid vaccine. That potential has been aired openly, discussed, considered in a number of ways and the danger is apparent. I brought up the case of Ethiopians in Israel to show it's not just a fantasy that it'd be a bad idea.

As for what it had to do with Biden, as I say, it's a potentiality for Trump but a foregone conclusion for Biden, as seen by how he wants to continue the lock-downs. It's also largely Dem politicians (those who aided and encouraged the mass riots I keep having to recall to everyone's seeming forgetfulness) exercising this authoritarian overreach. etc

It just shows you that you have no trust in the American governmental system, especially when the system is still under Trump's hand.
I have very little trust like anyone should, especially under Trump, and have even less under Biden--and only that because Trump doesn't want to continue the lock-downs and all that entails. Plus what else I said above.

I fully expect that if he were to win his second term through all this legal battle he'd still be a problem and would flounder, potentially even pushing the idea for mandatory vaccination/vaccination IDs as an alternative to further lock-downs. Like I said, he's not a 4D Chess saint.
However, that is a possibility for Trump whereas it's a foregone conclusion for Biden (continued lock-downs and inconsistent authoritarianism about Covid I mean).

I keep saying this isn't about being pro-Trump but people keep insisting it is. I know why, though, but I'll save that for the end.
Also, the vaccine that is developing at the moment is under Trump's watch. If you are afraid of using it then it means that you don't even trust in Trump's ability as a president that can distinguish a deadly unfinished vaccine from a life-saving vaccine.
I don't, especially not when Bill Gates himself said during an interview that Trump, when he was advised to look into the potential adverse effects of vaccinations, asked him if he should, and Gates said "No, that's a bad thing. Don't do that."
To which Trump just...didn't.

Sure, a rushed vaccine is dangerous. But notice that in your cited picture that it said that the EUA for the vaccine will only be administrated if enough data show that the vaccine is useful if there is no other way to save someone before the completion of the clinical trial.
Vaccines don't cure viruses. They prevent them. Inoculation is only one of many preventative measures and other measures are already being implemented successfully. Where these measures are actually in accord to scientific universal standards (not arbitrary "six feet", "ten people" political mandates but "don't be around the immuno-compromised" and "if you're sick, stay home" etc,), they work.
The USA is not in the danger it once was and we know enough about the virus to not only identify the those most vulnerable but take measures to protect them.

There is no need for a rush to vaccinate, let alone to potentially mandate it once completed, especially since we had literally hundreds of rioters and politicians breath-to-breath in public for months and we still don't have anywhere near the catastrophic surge in cases we did when it first arrived.

Maybe if after all those months NYC, Seattle, Chicago etc. was flooded with bodies I'd be whistling a different tune, but I guess protests also act as inoculation against Covid. The eldest politicians among the DNC were out there with them and none of them turned up dead yet, long after the time when they'd become symptomatic.

The article you cited only shows that if you get the vaccine, you will get maybe a tick on the digital id card of yours that shows that you are vaccinated, just like your fingerprint or your gender. It does not say anything like 'You No Vaccine, You No Human'.
I never said that. I thought you weren't trying to fight here. Why imply a totally different context to what I said?

It is interesting that you have mentioned that you can get infected by the virus when you stay within a room with a carrier. If what you say is correct (which I think it is),
According to the CDC last I checked it is.
then wouldn't establishing lockdown a good move to cut off the chain of infection?
Might as well keep everyone in bubbles and walk around in hazmat suits.
The lock-down was necessary until we could discern what this virus was, how it functioned and who would be most endangered by it. We know all that now.

By reducing the chance of non-carrier to make contact with a carrier,
Asymptomatic spread means there's no sign of infection. You literally have to keep everyone separated at all times until a test proves positive and/or they show symptoms (and then get tested also because it shares symptoms with other coronavius and you might not be infectious with Covid-19).

What you're suggesting isn't plausible, but it's what Biden's team seems to want. This kind of thing is why I brought up Covid and vaccines in my initial post that was quoted here. There's potential for it to get worse under Trump but it's certain to get worse under Biden if he gets his way regarding lock-downs. The idea some other people think they can snicker at this and move on is ridiculous.

TL;DR
I said I'd get to it later and now I am.
People aren't smarter because they scoff at things, let alone what's immediately observable, and it's frustrating that people seem to be so asspained about Trump--or rather, at the last four years of memes mocking them/their political side--that they will swallow anything and everything just to get the chance at gloating at his absence.

Make no mistake, that's what this is all about. People are retarding their own intellect because they are desperate for a reflection of 2016 but where they "win" instead and the agents of their worldview get to impose what they are trained to think believe to be "good", like the Equality Act or Green New Deal.

That was the claim made in the other thread against a post of mine, that I'm just upset "my faggot didn't win", despite me never once posting that way. That claim I replied to when mentioning the vaccination, Equality Act (think the Desmond thread but established as civil rights law) etc. That reply was then posted in this thread for giggles as if I'm a Trumpite "kek god emperor", and no matter how much I explain otherwise it won't be heard because people desperately want that 2016 salt mine from anyone who isn't one of them.

That's how we got here. I mean just look at the point of this thread to begin with. People really want a 2016 do-over and they want it so bad that they will overlook absolutely everything just to experience it.

I get it, and mocking Trumpites can be funny, but 2020 is an entirely different world from 2016. You can't go back.
Digging your head in the sand and ignoring everything wrong going on, the dangers therein, what's being proposed--it won't turn back the clock. Doesn't stop people, of course.

After all, they're just happy "their faggot won".
 
I'm saying that the potential that there can be damaging elements included, be it purposefully or through negligence via rushed vaccination development, is not only possible but already a subject of major expose/investigation elsewhere (that there's precedent). It's not just conjured by a mind crowned in a tinfoil hat.

That China has rushed its vaccines the hardest and is now in the process of helping distribute them internationally is another point (Russia was mentioned too), and then there's videos like this where even Dr. Fauci, who just back in September warned against China-style rush to vaccines, now speaks about being "encouraged" by the fact that no one's reported adverse effects in the few months it's been available:
As if this span of time is all it takes to truly discern anything.

Also, this is from September
This is from this month.

Understand that there's more going on here than just people pooling together to try and save lives. Major corporations want fat money and vaccines seems to make bank, especially when you're the top dog at the finish line, but there's also geopolitical waves going on as a result as well.
I mention this not because I worry that companies racing for a vaccine on the USA's behalf will take notes from China's companies (Chinese companies are owned by and/or beholden to the CCP btw it's their economic and political system) but because of the precedent it all sets and, again, because of the blind trust people have over all of this.

And it would certainly be mandatory. NYC Cuomo already publicly addressed how appalled he was that police officers aren't willing to check if people have more than 10 people over for Thanksgiving. Politicians are exercising authoritarian overreach, as I said, with little to no real scientific universal standards in their mandates (hence the "six people or ten" remark and what I mentioned later).

It would be mandatory. How would such a mandate be implemented? As I said, probably not by police jamming needles into people like Alan Dershowitz literally said they could (look it up, it was a live interview).
Rather it'd likely by vaccination IDs or, as mentioned regarding the Israel articles, making it mandatory during transit or travel.

Ultimately there is too much going on and too much floundering on key issues--especially vaccination development and safety data--from all sides to simply be copacetic with the idea of potentially being forced to get a Covid vaccine. That potential has been aired openly, discussed, considered in a number of ways and the danger is apparent. I brought up the case of Ethiopians in Israel to show it's not just a fantasy that it'd be a bad idea.

As for what it had to do with Biden, as I say, it's a potentiality for Trump but a foregone conclusion for Biden, as seen by how he wants to continue the lock-downs. It's also largely Dem politicians (those who aided and encouraged the mass riots I keep having to recall to everyone's seeming forgetfulness) exercising this authoritarian overreach. etc


I have very little trust like anyone should, especially under Trump, and have even less under Biden--and only that because Trump doesn't want to continue the lock-downs and all that entails. Plus what else I said above.

I fully expect that if he were to win his second term through all this legal battle he'd still be a problem and would flounder, potentially even pushing the idea for mandatory vaccination/vaccination IDs as an alternative to further lock-downs. Like I said, he's not a 4D Chess saint.
However, that is a possibility for Trump whereas it's a foregone conclusion for Biden (continued lock-downs and inconsistent authoritarianism about Covid I mean).

I keep saying this isn't about being pro-Trump but people keep insisting it is. I know why, though, but I'll save that for the end.
I don't, especially not when Bill Gates himself said during an interview that Trump, when he was advised to look into the potential adverse effects of vaccinations, asked him if he should, and Gates said "No, that's a bad thing. Don't do that."
To which Trump just...didn't.


Vaccines don't cure viruses. They prevent them. Inoculation is only one of many preventative measures and other measures are already being implemented successfully. Where these measures are actually in accord to scientific universal standards (not arbitrary "six feet", "ten people" political mandates but "don't be around the immuno-compromised" and "if you're sick, stay home" etc,), they work.
The USA is not in the danger it once was and we know enough about the virus to not only identify the those most vulnerable but take measures to protect them.

There is no need for a rush to vaccinate, let alone to potentially mandate it once completed, especially since we had literally hundreds of rioters and politicians breath-to-breath in public for months and we still don't have anywhere near the catastrophic surge in cases we did when it first arrived.

Maybe if after all those months NYC, Seattle, Chicago etc. was flooded with bodies I'd be whistling a different tune, but I guess protests also act as inoculation against Covid. The eldest politicians among the DNC were out there with them and none of them turned up dead yet, long after the time when they'd become symptomatic.


I never said that. I thought you weren't trying to fight here. Why imply a totally different context to what I said?


According to the CDC last I checked it is.

Might as well keep everyone in bubbles and walk around in hazmat suits.
The lock-down was necessary until we could discern what this virus was, how it functioned and who would be most endangered by it. We know all that now.


Asymptomatic spread means there's no sign of infection. You literally have to keep everyone separated at all times until a test proves positive and/or they show symptoms (and then get tested also because it shares symptoms with other coronavius and you might not be infectious with Covid-19).

What you're suggesting isn't plausible, but it's what Biden's team seems to want. This kind of thing is why I brought up Covid and vaccines in my initial post that was quoted here. There's potential for it to get worse under Trump but it's certain to get worse under Biden if he gets his way regarding lock-downs. The idea some other people think they can snicker at this and move on is ridiculous.

TL;DR
I said I'd get to it later and now I am.
People aren't smarter because they scoff at things, let alone what's immediately observable, and it's frustrating that people seem to be so asspained about Trump--or rather, at the last four years of memes mocking them/their political side--that they will swallow anything and everything just to get the chance at gloating at his absence.

Make no mistake, that's what this is all about. People are retarding their own intellect because they are desperate for a reflection of 2016 but where they "win" instead and the agents of their worldview get to impose what they are trained to think believe to be "good", like the Equality Act or Green New Deal.

That was the claim made in the other thread against a post of mine, that I'm just upset "my faggot didn't win", despite me never once posting that way. That claim I replied to when mentioning the vaccination, Equality Act (think the Desmond thread but established as civil rights law) etc. That reply was then posted in this thread for giggles as if I'm a Trumpite "kek god emperor", and no matter how much I explain otherwise it won't be heard because people desperately want that 2016 salt mine from anyone who isn't one of them.

That's how we got here. I mean just look at the point of this thread to begin with. People really want a 2016 do-over and they want it so bad that they will overlook absolutely everything just to experience it.

I get it, and mocking Trumpites can be funny, but 2020 is an entirely different world from 2016. You can't go back.
Digging your head in the sand and ignoring everything wrong going on, the dangers therein, what's being proposed--it won't turn back the clock. Doesn't stop people, of course.

After all, they're just happy "their faggot won".
Lol calm down. Eat some turkey.
 
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