Melanie Herring / Purplekecleon / PK / PapayaKitty / GlitchedPuppet / Ash Hazel Woods / Floraverse - Abusive, manipulative SJW artist whose ex-husband fucked a dog and teenagers and whose current husband thinks he's trans because of a TF fetish, admitted to fucking two dogs and letting her cat eat her out

[Meowthkip]

Sorry for necro-bumping this again. Some more lulz happened.

Somewhat recently, PK had a fit over how e621, a furry art aggregate site, was tagging one of her Flora characters. E621 has a rule of "tag what you see" and Orabas, the character in question, is a mtf trans so they added the "male" tag to this picture (NWS): https://archive.is/QEZuZ

Despite that Orabas having no female genitalia at all, this really rustles PK's jimmies: https://archive.is/Mi1N6
Biology is bigotry I guess! You can have a giant penis and balls and still be "physically female" in her world.
More whining on twitter: https://archive.is/WZw8U
Holy wolf! Eevee gives us his input on Twitter: https://archive.is/MH7E8

Here's the e621 takedown ticket: https://e621.net/takedown/show/3347

I only heard of this a few days ago, I looked around as much I could.

ETA: I find no problem with artists wanting their art taken down from a site like e621 for a good reason. But this is a strange reason.

e621 should have tagged it "shemale" just to spite her.

Gettin' real tired of this tucute "my body is x because I say so" bullshit. They're gonna give their doctors a fuckin' coronary.

 

[Funnybone]

The Marl/Eevee cheating thing was hilarious and insanely autistic. PK cheated on Marl either right before/after they were married and-- GASP-- her fiance/newly wed husband was upset?? From there PK convinced him to have a open relationship. However only PK can decide who does what with who.
Fuck, Marl had a massive post about how depressed he was about his open-marriage and how Eevee fells like a stranger to him a while ago but that sneaky bastard deleted it once people were bothering PK about it. I'm looking so hard for it but I can't find it. It was under his MarlCabinet tumblr before he deactivated it (someone else owns the tumblr url now)

Funny how she drew her fursona brutally murdering her husband and boyfriend yet part of her thing with Pengo is she complains about Pengo drawing this., like it was an act of violence or something:

I mean, I'd be uncomfortable with this a little too at first- but you need to take into account that PK and Pengo where visiting for the first time ever after hanging out online constantly, so I see where the joke is coming from. Basically, "Oh shit we're hanging out in real life how is this real"
Also this is fucking NOTHING compared to that violent pic of marl and eevee being beheaded-- that is much more of an attack on someone's character. Also, "Hey let me sell my gore art about killing my partners on a t-shirt". So weird.

Sounds like Vee's a dumbass, if not a cow.

Vee loves acting like a genius but all he does is spew an ass ton of words no one wants to read. He's got cow potential, definitely.

 

[Galaxy Harasser]

I always found that comic to be in poor taste and that nastiness came out of nowhere with Pengo. I guess it was some inside joke for them? I remember them calling each other "little nerd baby" and shit like that, the mean playful teasing I never saw with her and Eevee/Marl.

Not going to lie, I was a big fan of PK's Pokemon art for years. I just never really got into Flora. It doesn't help that the first chapter (not the prologue that tries waaaay too hard to be "deep" and "meaningful") is just 2 of the main characters bitching at each other like petulant children. The 3rd chapter introduces Cayenne who is also a constantly angry character. The only Flora thing I actually enjoyed was the Ichy Ichy stuff.

"Broken Toy" is schizo in tone which the first 2 parts are comedy and the 3rd is a mood whiplash to "deep and edgy". Like the 2nd part of it is just Beleth having trouble with getting a ticket to some local furry con. The 3rd is some creepy Silent Hill type shit.

Beleth is one of PK's Flora self-inserts, so you will be seeing them a lot. Ah great, more focus on another constantly dour character!

 

[Funnybone]

I don't even get what Floraverse is supposed to be anymore. I feel like PK/Marl/Eevee/Exty all have it figured out together and it's kinda like a big roleplay for them-- but the audience has really no idea what's going on except for 'Oooo pretty colors and cute animals'. The long winded character sheets barely explain anything either. Every character is the same at this point-- all bitchy, oversensitive whinos (hmmm... I wonder why) with moments of cute. I don't even know why I look at the updates anymore-- it's just a habit.
I have no idea how she was able to crowdfund Seeds. Well, she did offer art in a lot of the higher tiers and I think that was a way of people nabbing commissions-- maybe that's it?

 

[100 Whole Bepis]

Ah, PurpleKecleon. I don't think I ever dealt with her myself, but Vee used to frequent a forum I used to go to years ago, and his favorite hobby was lording the fact that he was 25 years old over the mostly 13-18 year old userbase. It was really, really pathetic. He chimped out when the admin told him to knock it off and scrambled his password. Glad to see that even though he's even older, he still hasn't changed a bit.

I think most of how I feel about PK has already been said by other people, but I'll go on the record saying that I always found her art to be very overrated. She has an amazing grasp of color theory, but she uses it as a crutch because the rest of her art skills are pretty weak. Go look for some of her pictures that aren't colored and they're incredibly bland, with shaky linework. Her character designs are derivative and forgettable. Her commissions are hideously overpriced for the effort she puts into them, her (paid) sketches are so bad you usually can't tell what's going on in them, and even in her strongest aspect, painting, she very rarely makes use of texture. All of her art is colored like she's painting play-doh. Very well-colored play-doh, but play-doh nonetheless.

(Also, any project thats "characters" page has a list of pronouns can fuck right off)

 

[AveraDiane]

One day some 14 year old girl sent her a message requesting a piece of art in memory of her dog who had just died. PK responded with an image that showed up as a thumbnail (so the image was hidden until you clicked to enlarge it) of some random doodles and a rant about guilt tripping artists for free art. She then screencapped this question with her response and re-posted it so that it would be rebloggable without censoring the girl's name.

Artists who want to get paid for their art are understandable, but this is pretty shitastic to do.

 

[Avocado]

PK's character designs in Flora really bother me.



There are so many unnecessary and distracting design elements that I spend more time trying to figure out how the fuck the characters are supposed to function than relating to them as characters. I don't know how anyone is supposed to use this as a guide to make their own rabbit-bat-thing (which I assume is the goal) when it looks like PK herself doesn't even know what she wants the species to be. The wildly different species variations and 'hybrids' are pointless, it's like she just dumps everything that comes out of her head onto the page instead of going through a visual development process. I actually think her most successful designs are her more generic furry ones, like the cat thing on the first panel of this page.

I have no idea how she was able to crowdfund Seeds. Well, she did offer art in a lot of the higher tiers and I think that was a way of people nabbing commissions-- maybe that's it?

I think it has a lot to do with the fact that she draws mountains of porn of the characters.

 

[Fax]

Wait, this character is in Floraverse, which is original, so...

That's not an MLP oc?

 

[Galaxy Harasser]

Her (cis) girlfriend is a very tall butch-looking Rarity if Rarity took up conducting music.

 

[Biscuit]

I think most of how I feel about PK has already been said by other people, but I'll go on the record saying that I always found her art to be very overrated. She has an amazing grasp of color theory, but she uses it as a crutch because the rest of her art skills are pretty weak. Go look for some of her pictures that aren't colored and they're incredibly bland, with shaky linework. Her character designs are derivative and forgettable. Her commissions are hideously overpriced for the effort she puts into them, her (paid) sketches are so bad you usually can't tell what's going on in them, and even in her strongest aspect, painting, she very rarely makes use of texture. All of her art is colored like she's painting play-doh. Very well-colored play-doh, but play-doh nonetheless.

To be honest I feel this too. Her colours are great, but next to that there's virtually nothing.
What bothers me most about her style is her way of panel placement in her comics, and the fact that she squishes whole panels full with text, it's really painful to read.

Besides the whole art thing, to have this context:

The Marl/Eevee cheating thing was hilarious and insanely autistic. PK cheated on Marl either right before/after they were married and-- GASP-- her fiance/newly wed husband was upset?? From there PK convinced him to have a open relationship. However only PK can decide who does what with who.
Fuck, Marl had a massive post about how depressed he was about his open-marriage and how Eevee fells like a stranger to him a while ago but that sneaky bastard deleted it once people were bothering PK about it. I'm looking so hard for it but I can't find it. It was under his MarlCabinet tumblr before he deactivated it (someone else owns the tumblr url now)

Makes this comic she was allowed to draw for Oh Joy Sex Toy feel even more like a self-wank

 

[Funnybone]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks her art is over rated- as an artist myself, I don't want to seem like a jealous asshole or anything, but my God her art is overrated.
Her art isn't absolute shit, but it's just big color trip with bland pokemon rip offs.

PK's character designs in Flora really bother me.

View attachment 32840 I actually think her most successful designs are her more generic furry ones, like the cat thing on the first panel of this page.

That cat is actually designed by one of her boyfriends (Exty) but she only mentioned it once-- and basically has hijacked the character to be her own little ventsona. It's funny that the one you liked isn't even her own-- just shows how bland her designs are compared to others with a similar style.

edit: link to exty's stuff, in case anyone is curious http://exty.tumblr.com/

 

[Avocado]

Oh, argh, I remember exty... kind of. I followed them for a while and I remember that they had good art but were kind of whiny. Something sticks in my head about them leaving tumblr for a while because they didn't like how people on tumblr treat artists (or something, I don't remember what the issue was exactly.)

I knew they were friends, but this dating PK thing must be a new development. I wonder how long before they break up and all of the dirty laundry gets thrown out on the curb.

And yeah, now that you mention it, the cat character does look they were designed by someone with better tastes than PK. As in, it's the only character on that page I linked that isn't an anatomical hot mess.

 

[Hazazel]

Hello, Hazazel here. I'm the person who opened the Floraverse thread on the BWW. Too bad it's gone mostly silent, though it's interesting that even a Floraverse supporter showed up to complain about the comic. I came here because there's not nearly enough talking about PK as a lolcow.

And yeah, now that you mention it, the cat character does look they were designed by someone with better tastes than PK. As in, it's the only character on that page I linked that isn't an anatomical hot mess.

All the other people's contributions to Floraverse are better than PK's. The insect creatures that came out of her first dA contest -PK being absolutely oblivious to insect anatomy- were all more original, more consistent, and just overall better thought-out than her overdesigned furry things. The best stories, as well as the best pieces of worldbuilding (I use "best" in a relative sense since I find most of them kind of bland) are the ones Marl comes up with. This was also true in PMD-E where all her stories were just about her self-insert being angsty, having love affairs and arguing with her far more likeable sister, while the other official writers actually wrote pieces that people cared about. Exty's designs always stick out in the species sheets because they are marginally more bearable to look at. Let's not even get started on how much her music is trying to be Pengosolvent and failing miserably.

Sounds like Vee's a dumbass, if not a cow.

For added fun and one more insight into the mind of PK's fascinating fanbase, consider that Vee has a patreon for nothing, with no rewards, and people are actually supporting him: https://www.patreon.com/eevee
He is asking for money to run his blog on tumblr and to produce his primary school doodles.

 

[SkirtPuncher]

Backing up a bit, since I'd seen people feeling sorry for Marl. During the height of Pengo's callout, some people had come forward and said that Marl tried to get them to fuck their dog, unfortunately those asks had been deleted. I'm honestly hoping this isn't true, for the sake of that poor dog.

 

[Hazazel]

Backing up a bit, since I'd seen people feeling sorry for Marl. During the height of Pengo's callout, some people had come forward and said that Marl tried to get them to fuck their dog, unfortunately those asks had been deleted. I'm honestly hoping this isn't true, for the sake of that poor dog.

To be honest I never found proof of this though it seems like it's a commonly remembered fact on 4chan. It might just be a rumor.

 

[MayMay]

Hello, Hazazel here. I'm the person who opened the Floraverse thread on the BWW. Too bad it's gone mostly silent, though it's interesting that even a Floraverse supporter showed up to complain about the comic. I came here because there's not nearly enough talking about PK as a lolcow.



All the other people's contributions to Floraverse are better than PK's. The insect creatures that came out of her first dA contest -PK being absolutely oblivious to insect anatomy- were all more original, more consistent, and just overall better thought-out than her overdesigned furry things. The best stories, as well as the best pieces of worldbuilding (I use "best" in a relative sense since I find most of them kind of bland) are the ones Marl comes up with. This was also true in PMD-E where all her stories were just about her self-insert being angsty, having love affairs and arguing with her far more likeable sister, while the other official writers actually wrote pieces that people cared about. Exty's designs always stick out in the species sheets because they are marginally more bearable to look at. Let's not even get started on how much her music is trying to be Pengosolvent and failing miserably.



For added fun and one more insight into the mind of PK's fascinating fanbase, consider that Vee has a patreon for nothing, with no rewards, and people are actually supporting him: https://www.patreon.com/eevee
He is asking for money to run his blog on tumblr and to produce his primary school doodles.

Oh, ahoyhoy! Though I think I've only seen the PMD-E thread there. Guess I'll search that one out when this computer's done freezing over nothing all the time. (currently clocked a full 6 seconds before what I typed showed up here. Yeah.)

I don't know if it's been brought up yet but it's worth a mention that many of the floraverse characters were just redressed ones from PMD-E. For instance, there's the two things, one looks like it's made of water and named Cress? Well that one and the birdish thing were based of Manaphy and Celebi respectively if I remember right, I think it was the same names too. Or maybe I'm just an idiot, call it coursework related stress...

 

[Magpie]

I actually chat with Marl on and off, not that I really know him all that well. He's a pretty nice dude. Never had the experience of speaking with PK and honestly it's probably better that way. I was fan gushing because I couldn't believe I was actually talking to Marl by happenstance, and I always liked PK's art (like others said it's pretty much eye candy if only for the color work). Didn't know that before Pengo's callout that she was such a bratty individual though. Really a shame.

 

[Fake Peppino]

I don't know much about this PK person drama-wise, but I couldn't agree with you guys more when it comes to her art.

PK's character designs are way too "loud" and unrealistic beyond the point of believability. Yes, I am aware that the world that Floraverse takes place in is just plain trippy as hell and eclectic fantasy, but you still gotta maintain some semblance of tangibility to your characters -- no matter how toony things get. When I look at some of PK's creatures here, I can see quite a few designing no-nos:

• That purple bat guy is rather top-heavy. How can he even hold his mass upright on top of those tiny mouse legs? Also, his wings appear to sprout out from the sides of his neck -- at least in this image. I'm not sure if this is how the artist actually intended them to be or simply an error on their end with the shading or something. It wouldn't be comfortable at all for this thing to fly without anything supporting the rest of its weight.

• The "chirping rabbat" is just... Yikes. Too many sharp angles (the legs, the pointless feelers, the markings, etc.) not enough curved lines to direct the viewer's eye along the body... rather than abruptly up and down and then away from it.

I would say more, but my finger is getting tired typing this on my shitty phone. I wish I could illustrate what I'm talking about to get my point across a little better, but... Damn.

Fuck, my post got borked up to hell. Sorry about that!

 

[Funnybone]

Backing up a bit, since I'd seen people feeling sorry for Marl. During the height of Pengo's callout, some people had come forward and said that Marl tried to get them to fuck their dog, unfortunately those asks had been deleted. I'm honestly hoping this isn't true, for the sake of that poor dog.

Fuck, this completely slipped my mind-- I know Pengo's original callout said that Marl either performed an act of bestiality or alluded to wanting to fuck his dog. I remember Marl being quoted as saying "I'm into things I shouldn't be into". PK used the threat of a lawyer to get Pengo to take it down for defamation of Marl's character. Once again, this is a pretty buried- I cannot find the original unedited Pengo post, hell, I can't even find the posts of people talking about it on any other sites now. I think PK went to each one and threatened a lawsuit.

All the other people's contributions to Floraverse are better than PK's. The insect creatures that came out of her first dA contest -PK being absolutely oblivious to insect anatomy- were all more original, more consistent, and just overall better thought-out than her overdesigned furry things. The best stories, as well as the best pieces of worldbuilding (I use "best" in a relative sense since I find most of them kind of bland) are the ones Marl comes up with. This was also true in PMD-E where all her stories were just about her self-insert being angsty, having love affairs and arguing with her far more likeable sister, while the other official writers actually wrote pieces that people cared about. Exty's designs always stick out in the species sheets because they are marginally more bearable to look at. Let's not even get started on how much her music is trying to be Pengosolvent and failing miserably.

I remember she also said she was a keeping a character that an ex member of PMD-E created, and was converting them to be a Floraverse character-- without the member's permission. I'm not sure who. I need to track that down.

Also, PK has made sure she has the right to steal anyone's design and profit off it, thanks to Creative Commons
http://floraverse.tumblr.com/post/72719305022/floraverse-and-licensing
You're not allowed to participate in Floraverse until you sign that, I believe.

Also, geeze, her music is so shamelessly Pengo's style it's gross. She has bitched about others using her art style before too, but it's perfectly okay to steal Pengo's music style. People are actually giving her money for it too! It boggles my mind.

 

[Hazazel]

The long winded character sheets barely explain anything either. Every character is the same at this point-- all bitchy, oversensitive whinos (hmmm... I wonder why) with moments of cute. I don't even know why I look at the updates anymore-- it's just a habit.

Oh my goodness thank you I thought nobody else noticed that! And that's also the telltale sign of the typical PK self-insert. Any character that fits that description is her self-insert- and they all have very important roles/are the actual main characters of their arc. This amuses me.

• That purple bat guy is rather top-heavy. How can he even hold his mass upright on top of those tiny mouse legs? Also, his wings appear to sprout out from the sides of his neck -- at least in this image. I'm not sure if this is how the artist actually intended them to be or simply an error on their end with the shading or something. It wouldn't be comfortable at all for this thing to fly without anything supporting the rest of its weight.

• The "chirping rabbat" is just... Yikes. Too many sharp angles (the legs, the pointless feelers, the markings, etc.) not enough curved lines to direct the viewer's eye along the body... rather than abruptly up and down and then away from it.

Purple bat guy actually turned out to be a girl (PK enforces a strict 21 ratio of female:non-binary:male characters in her comic which is quite childish). But what I wanted to say is that the wings are actually meant to connect there. Because if I managed to get a grasp of that species' "biology", her wings are actually supposed to be a pair of ears and yeah just imagine having to fly with that huge body hanging from your ears.

The chirping rabbat angers me to no end because that's not how insects work. That's not how anything works because you can't walk with legs like that. How does that thing function without toppling over? This brutal butchering of arthropod body plans offends me. And this shows that PK really doesn't think of anatomy at all.

Also check out this character's messed up legs: