2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[King's Gambit Accepted]

Trump legit does not understand that silicon valley is doing the job the US constitution prohibits the government from doing. Controlling the speech and thoughts of the American people. He assumes section 230 is what allows them to do this, and not the expressed desire of the Federal Government he was ostensibly elected to lead.

Anyone who thinks there is any daylight between Google, Twitter, and the US Government is deluding themselves. The technocrats in DC merely outsourced the censoring the same way they outsourced the steel industry. John in Langley Virginia cannot stop you tweeting your mind, but Pajeet in Gujarat can. Trump being an outsider simply did not understand the nature of the game and he reacted far too slow to do anything about it.

For a conservative, isn't the correct solution to problems with Twitter and FB, creating a new platform like Parler?

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

wasn't the Dutch East India Company a legit company-state

Yes, and it existed from 1602-1800, which begs the question why they never thought of megacorporations partnering with governments, when they were doing that even in their own day.

They still failed to anticipate fraud, which is a huge exploit they should've seen coming from a mile away, considering they just came away from a brutal war no-doubt filled with underhanded tactics and espionage.

They had a Lockean view of human nature, which is overly optimistic ( it states people naturally cooperate with one another and are innately good. It's civilization that corrupts people)and doesn't take into account the fact that humans can and will be nasty to one another in order in order to gain an edge or otherwise benefit themselves. It's the only reason I can think why they didn't make safeguards regarding things politicians have done to keep power (fraud, blackmailing or using military force, censoring, etc) since the formation of basic city-states. I'm not by any means a fan of Hobbes (I think he over exaggerates the tendency of humans to be self-centered and otherwise violent towards others), but his worldview is more realistic and grounded in reality than that. A basic observation of any group of people can confirm that: people ultimately ought to and deserve to be free but in order to make that a reality, you have to be wary of people exploiting loopholes in any sort of contract to get the upper hand. Even then, you have to watch yourself and anyone else that is watching others so you don't do the same. Humans may be rational, but we're still animals.

 

[mindlessobserver]

They still failed to anticipate fraud, which is a huge exploit they should've seen coming from a mile away, considering they just came away from a brutal war no-doubt filled with underhanded tactics and espionage.

They did however create the College of Electors which if it functioned as designed would be responsible for looking into this. Hell, under the constitution the College has the authority to meet in its entirety and debate. Even hold hearings, They may not have foreseen widespread fraud, but they did foresee the potential of an election being marred. Sadly the College is viewed as pro forma these days. A tradition rather then an actual political force with teeth.

*edit*

Trump has said he will concede if the College goes against him. I wonder if he honestly believes he can convince the Republican Electors to force a formal seating of the College. Under current law, the Electors cannot meet as one body...Unless of course a majority of the Electors demand it. This can be done via the State Legislatures, which determine the place and time of the assembly of their electors. Which is usually in the State Capital buildings for a perfunctory ceremony. However, a majority of the State Delegations are for Donald Trump (if not a majority of the electors), which means the meeting place could be called by the delegations at one location.

There is also the possibility for congressional delegations to object to the outcome under the 12th Amendment.

There are some very archaic procedures in US law that have no precedent in the modern era that are available, if the Republicans are truly willing to go to the mat over this.

 

[CheezzyMach]

Right now is the equivalent of the scene in John Wick 2 when Wick and the black guy take a break from trying to kill each other to have a drink at the bar.
Or Pacino and DeNiro having coffee in Heat.
Regardless of which you choose, we will get back to bloodlust soon enough.

More like that gif of the black dude bringing pizza back to his apartment only to see everything's on fire.

 

[MrJokerRager]

They did however create the College of Electors which if it functioned as designed would be responsible for looking into this. Hell, under the constitution the College has the authority to meet in its entirety and debate. Even hold hearings, They may not have foreseen widespread fraud, but they did foresee the potential of an election being marred. Sadly the College is viewed as pro forma these days. A tradition rather then an actual political force with teeth.

There was the election of 1824, which was very controversial. Trump’s situation here is almost close to that election.

Trump is probably bullshiting the media and has no intention of letting this pass. The stakes are just too high for him now. He is almost fully tired of the media now and the idea he will just go peacefully is a pipe dream for his enemies. He hasn't conceded till now, he is planning to not let this go either and will nuke the electoral college most likely.

Hell I have been sending him messages through the white house contact page to do that lol.

 

[Boobie Bomb]

We used to laugh that Biden winning was once in a billion years' shock. But now cheating might as well be happening if they really want to ruin their party by using cheating. It's like that one kid who never changed after cheating his math homework because they did it once? They get to cheat well into their adulthood. Pretty sad and I'm not one to talk but isn't it sad that mainstream media and Democraps are just putting the salt on people that let's just say would rather overthrow America than get into a camp to relearn about what Trump is EVVVVVILLLLLLL!

Shit gets wasteful when folks pissoff the wrong folks.

Reminder, we will never forget the bullshit!

 

[Reisen Storm]

So today I was a bit saddened at Thanksgiving. Luckily, most of the talk avoided the election, but I heard bits here and there. My immediate family is calling Trump stupid for not conceding and one of my in-laws is convinced that Trump challenging the election is similar to Xi getting rid of presidential term limits in China. I was so tempted to say that if Democrats can go on for four years about Russian election interference and have an investigation about it, Republicans deserve the same rights to question this election with regards to fraud. I’m not sure what the outcome of the election will be, but it made me annoyed of how easily swayed people are by the media. I’m all for equal opportunity and if the situation were flipped, Democrats would be calling for recounts and audits left and right.

The opposite happened to me. A younger cousin of mine was allowed to sit at the big family table and not the small one for the children. She brings up the elections, thinking that everyone there voted for Biden, she got a wake-up call when every there voted for Trump. Feels pretty good, to be honest. Shame our state goes Blue no matter what.

 

[JambledUpWords]

The opposite happened to me. A younger cousin of mine was allowed to sit at the big family table and not the small one for the children. She brings up the elections, thinking that everyone there voted for Biden, she got a wake-up call when every there voted for Trump. Feels pretty good, to be honest. Shame our state goes Blue no matter what.

In my family, quite a few are the “lose with dignity” types. It’s rather sad to see. If you look at every metric of this election, nothing makes sense. Honestly, it’s more dignified to actually put up a fight against something that undermines the Constitution than to just give up because the other side said to. Trump is one of the only Republicans willing to put up a fight, as with other cases before this election, such as building a wall, and that is why he does win at some things. You can’t win if you don’t play.

 

[babadook]

Wtf family dinner? That's collectivist bro

 

[mindlessobserver]

There was the election of 1824, which was very controversial. Trump’s situation here is almost close to that election.

Trump is probably bullshiting the media and has no intention of letting this pass. The stakes are just too high for him now. He is almost fully tired of the media now and the idea he will just go peacefully is a pipe dream for his enemies. He hasn't conceded till now, he is planning to not let this go either and will nuke the electoral college most likely.

Hell I have been sending him messages through the white house contact page to do that lol.

Probably the same pipe dream of the Electors denying Trump the win in 2016. Still, states like South Dakota and Wyoming have got to be wondering just what it means for them if Biden gets away with what went down, and goes on to implement the national policies he has said he wants to with regards to a national lockdown. Throwing a spanner in the works now will most likely be the only legal recourse they have, and anything after that will require extra legal civil disobedience.

I don't see South Dakota going along with a 6 week nation wide COVID shut down, mandated by the Biden Administration as an example. Some pretty serious discussions are sure to be going on in Pierre, and the are being repeated in other State Capitals throughout the "deplorable" country. Biden has been adamant about his plans. He wants to impose on them what the the dictators of New York, New Jersey and California have imposed already. Its a long way from Washington DC to Pierre South Dakota, and if these regions don't exercise their legal rights now, they will have to submit. Or exercise extra-legal methods.

 

[Gehenna]

People have been memeing away all his mistakes and shortcomings as 4d chess for over 4 years now. I think at this point it's obvious this is just a dumb emotional tantrum to #diaperdon trending on Twitter.

There is nothing '4D" about it, and if you think there is you really need to rethink political strategy.

1: If he makes any typo or mentions certain subjects, the left blows their fucking loads saying how awful he is.
2: They have the attention span of gnats.
3: He has things he prefers to keep more quiet.

I am fairly sure I can hand those three things to a literal drooling retard and they'd come up with the idea of exploiting 1 to ensure 3, via 2. Its so god damned basic that the only surprising thing here is that somehow he did it for 4 years and they never learned.

 

[Taco]

There was the election of 1824, which was very controversial. Trump’s situation here is almost close to that election.

Trump is probably bullshiting the media and has no intention of letting this pass. The stakes are just too high for him now. He is almost fully tired of the media now and the idea he will just go peacefully is a pipe dream for his enemies. He hasn't conceded till now, he is planning to not let this go either and will nuke the electoral college most likely.

Hell I have been sending him messages through the white house contact page to do that lol.

So humor me what does "nuke the electoral college" mean exactly?

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Trump has said he will concede if the College goes against him.

Source? If so then that's a stupid thing to say since they've been hammering on him to concede this entire time, now he's given them a vector to target with the college, but this is the first I've heard of that so I have doubt.

 

[awoo]

So humor me what does "nuke the electoral college" mean exactly?

dissolve Congress and declare himself Fuhrer

 

[MrJokerRager]

Probably the same pipe dream of the Electors denying Trump the win in 2016. Still, states like South Dakota and Wyoming have got to be wondering just what it means for them if Biden gets away with what went down, and goes on to implement the national policies he has said he wants to with regards to a national lockdown. Throwing a spanner in the works now will most likely be the only legal recourse they have, and anything after that will require extra legal civil disobedience.

I don't see South Dakota going along with a 6 week nation wide COVID shut down, mandated by the Biden Administration as an example. Some pretty serious discussions are sure to be going on in Pierre, and the are being repeated in other State Capitals throughout the "deplorable" country. Biden has been adamant about his plans. He wants to impose on them what the the dictators of New York, New Jersey and California have imposed already. Its a long way from Washington DC to Pierre South Dakota, and if these regions don't exercise their legal rights now, they will have to submit. Or exercise extra-legal methods.

With Trump, I can see that happening. He is the only politician shameless and ballsy enough to go for it. The circumstances are very helpful that many Republicans question this result. I give Trump low odds of succeeding but if he does, it will be big. He has the support within the party to go for it. A politician with 74 million votes translates to a popular mandate in any election before 2020.

 

[Overgame]

Trump legit does not understand that silicon valley is doing the job the US constitution prohibits the government from doing. Controlling the speech and thoughts of the American people. He assumes section 230 is what allows them to do this, and not the expressed desire of the Federal Government he was ostensibly elected to lead.

Anyone who thinks there is any daylight between Google, Twitter, and the US Government is deluding themselves. The technocrats in DC merely outsourced the censoring the same way they outsourced the steel industry. John in Langley Virginia cannot stop you tweeting your mind, but Pajeet in Gujarat can. Trump being an outsider simply did not understand the nature of the game and he reacted far too slow to do anything about it.

Uhh sorry buddy there is a big difference. If the US government decides to censor you, you can't do anything about it. If Google or Twitter decide to censor you, you can just use a different service or make your own.

 

[Bartleby]

Source? If so then that's a stupid thing to say since they've been hammering on him to concede this entire time, now he's given them a vector to target with the college, but this is the first I've heard of that so I have doubt.

I was just looking for this actually, since this keeps getting mentioned in the thread yet for some reason, no one's actually posted the clip, so here, this clip is his entire response to the reporter's question (though only the first 20 or so seconds are relevant). What's notable is he does say that he certainly will leave the White House if the Electoral College elects Biden, but right after he says he thinks there'll be a lot of things happening between now and the 20th of January, so it seems to be a conflicting answer.

 

[Puerto Pollo]

Honestly, that's the biggest casualty of COVID. Dating apps will get you swamped with women below your range and scammers if you're a guy. I keep getting fat chicks and insecure uggos when I could get someone with a decent BMI at a bar or work.

Try grindr. The most incredible achievement of coronachan is that gay men all of sudden are afraid of getting a disease.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

They are generally accepted to be hungover, over fed, and sedate. Don't expect any major decisions, but the clerks wills till be filing stuff.

I would pity the poor soul that moved to make someone in a position of power do something important after Thanksgiving. That is just asking to be nuked into oblivion.

 

[Jaimas]

Source? If so then that's a stupid thing to say since they've been hammering on him to concede this entire time, now he's given them a vector to target with the college, but this is the first I've heard of that so I have doubt.

I saw the same article multiple times today; if it's the same one I'm thinking of it's another "DUDE TRUST ME;"