Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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I could give a fuck about the rest of the thread but these two just stuck out like dislocated thumbs.
The first one, I can't even fathom. Anakin isn't blaming the democratic process and the bureaucracy for his slavery, why the fuck would he? He said that because he's an authoritarian megalomaniac. He literally said "If everyone in politics doesn't agree someone should make them agree". This sprouts from the feeling of having no control in his life, which is what Palpatine used to trick him. Plus he lived in one of the most crime dominated areas in the galaxy, a literal desert wasteland. The republic did fuck all because what could the republic do? And furthermore what did the empire do?

And the other one is just...what the fuck. I get what she means with the sequel trilogy, I mean Kylo isn't exactly prince charming and he tried to kill Rey several times. But Han and Leia? They argued because Han is a hot head and Leia is diplomatic and strategic. It's the most basic shit. Why does it matter if they're a man and a woman? Do you think gays and lesbians never argue? You know what that makes sense. In all of her relationships Lily probably considers disagreeing with her abuse. If her significant other doesn't mindlessly agree and go along with everything she says, she'll dwell on it for years and make a spite-fueled Pokemon comic.
 
Why lily may have an issue with the word trap;
but she has issues with everything so it's not suprising...


I'm all for the word trap to be used by people who want to identify as one but the issue comes from... 4chan because offuckingcourseitis.


basically the word trap (used in this context) began on 4chan where people would call anime crossdressers said word. The issue(?) came however when people started using this word on irl folk. Ok, cool they called some irl crossdressers traps, which, fine, that's how the word was used in the anime sense anyway, but then they started to call real trans people, mainly trans women traps because 'lol they're a guy in a dress who looks feminine!' even tho that's now how trans women work.

fun fact; the original word for this was Otokonoko but for some reason, this western term became more popular, even tho weebs are known for using Japanese terminology for pratically everything like Tsundere, Neko, Shonen etc even tho there are English varieties of these words.

so now there are bitch fights over the word and they're becoming more and more common because internet culture changes and what's deemed as offensive or not changes over time (think how it was ok to say reetarded back in the CoD days but now when you say it you may get canceled and even doxxed for it on twatter.com.)

Hell the animemes subreddit had like about 2-3 month long civil war about people using the word trap-in any context.. so people who used the 'i activated my trap card!' meme would be banned even tho... words can have multiple meanings.

It's just spergitory on both sides of the argument no matter who you argue with on the word trap.

I get it dont call irl trans women traps, you come off as a dick, but also people use it as a self identifier- there's even a subreddit dedicated to trans women who call themselves traps ffs, just like how people identify as a queer or as a bear/twink/dyke/shemale/transvestite etc.

But to bring it back to lily, she wouldn't care for that fact because nobody can identify as a slur in her world. Think of it like the word queer.

maybe she'd be happier if she kept out of other people's busness... but nahh she wouldn't have anything to bitch about on tumblr then.
 
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Why lily may have an issue with the word trap;
but she has issues with everything so it's not suprising...


I'm all for the word trap to be used by people who want to identify as one but the issue comes from... 4chan because offuckingcourseitis.


basically the word trap (used in this context) began on 4chan where people would call anime crossdressers said word. The issue(?) came however when people started using this word on irl folk. Ok, cool they called some irl crossdressers traps, which, fine, that's how the word was used in the anime sense anyway, but then they started to call real trans people, mainly trans women traps because 'lol they're a guy in a dress who looks feminine!' even tho that's now how trans women work.

fun fact; the original word for this was Otokonoko but for some reason, this western term became more popular, even tho weebs are known for using Japanese terminology for pratically everything like Tsundere, Neko, Shonen etc even tho there are English varieties of these words.

so now there are bitch fights over the word and they're becoming more and more common because internet culture changes and what's deemed as offensive or not changes over time (think how it was ok to say reetarded back in the CoD days but now when you say it you may get canceled and even doxxed for it on twatter.com.)

Hell the animemes subreddit had like about 2-3 month long civil war about people using the word trap-in any context.. so people who used the 'i activated my trap card!' meme would be banned even tho... words can have multiple meanings.

It's just speritory on both sides of the argument no matter who you argue with on the word trap.

I get it dont call irl trans women traps, you come off as a dick, but also people use it as a self identifier- there's even a subreddit dedicated to trans women who call themselves traps ffs, just like how people identify as a queer or as a bear/twink/dyke/shemale/transvestite etc.

But to bring it back to lily, she wouldn't care for that fact because nobody can identify as a slur in her world. Think of it like the word queer.

maybe she'd be happier if she kept out of other people's busness... but nahh she wouldn't have anything to bitch about on tumblr then.
4chan/reddit especially fucked with the word when they started the "are traps gay" thing a few years back. I remember it getting a fuck ton of blacklash on twitter and tumblr and this more specifically is probably Lilys main experience with the word being used. Aka when a fuck ton of sjws started screaming about how the question is transphobic despite it having nothing to do with actual trans people.

The word trap over took the Japanese phrase because it was already used in the west but it legitimately did mean transwoman and was usually used to label them and drag queens. The 4chan controversy isnt why its a slur but it definitely didnt fucking help.
 
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The first one, I can't even fathom. Anakin isn't blaming the democratic process and the bureaucracy for his slavery, why the fuck would he? He said that because he's an authoritarian megalomaniac. He literally said "If everyone in politics doesn't agree someone should make them agree". This sprouts from the feeling of having no control in his life, which is what Palpatine used to trick him. Plus he lived in one of the most crime dominated areas in the galaxy, a literal desert wasteland. The republic did fuck all because what could the republic do? And furthermore what did the empire do?
Lily seems to have a hate-boner for the concept of democracy. In her writing tips:

(96) Any system of government (with the exception of Fascism) can exist in a positive or negative context. Monarchies are not always inherently evil (see Hawaii pre-annexation) and Democracies are not always inherently good (See USA). Write accordingly.
I assume this is rooted in the insane idea that two sides having a discussion and reaching an comproise or understanding is unacceptable and that this is why radical Democrats in America need to just murder not only ever Republican but every moderate Democrat and forcibly take over the government. This is a thing that she had tacitly advocated.

It all makes even more sense when you watch her Legend of Korra review. When she gets to Season 3 she drops the statement that 'anarchy is the stupidest form of government' (ignore that anarchy is not a form of government by definition), and goes off on a tangent that the ideal form of government is a socialist totalitarian police state. This seems like an insane thing to just bring up in a Legend of Korra review, but then you keep digging and you realize that her Val'kyr society is a totalitarian regime where Lord Ryder is the single greatest authority, all decisions made by the capital are made by him, and he is the one who gets to mete out punishment according to his whims (like that one time he sliced somebody's eyes out of her head because she vaguely back-talked him).

It's no surprise given that Lily thinks she is always right, anybody who even vaguely disagrees with her is wrong, and that things must be done according to her perspective of the world or else it's constantly injustice. If she were in charge of everything shit would get done and nobody would question it because of her benevolent, iron-fisted rule. (Or more likely the benevolent iron-fisted rule of somebody who thinks just like her; god knows Lily wouldn't want to actually take responsibility and do the work, but if there were a supernaturally powerful force that happened to think like her,..)
 
It's really weird how Lily is constantly going on about fascism being bad, but when you actually look at her own political takes she definitely starts to lean more into actual fascist ideology. It's just Nazism with the nationalism and any indication of being anti-LGBT or racist removed, because that seems to be the only actual problem she has with Nazis. They just weren't exterminating the right people. I genuinely believe that if some gay queen took over the government and started sending all the CIS white men to concentration camps, Lily would be unironically in favor of this.

Her ideal government is an embarrassingly naive and childish one. That what we need is just one really good, honest person to be in charge of everything! The problem comes in when you think about what happens after that one good person has died/finished their rule. Even if they get worthy successors, eventually it'll all go to shit. It's human nature. Some megalomaniac will start a coup to overthrow someone, or a successor won't turn out to be as good as they seemed. It's the same reason why Communism never works. People are inherently power-hungry, and will take the opportunity to obtain power, even if it means fucking someone else over.

Lily can shit on the US all she wants, but at least that system of government gives people the power to vote people like Trump out of office if they don't like him. In Lily's ideal system, the only way to depose of the gay gestapo is to start some kind of violent rebellion, or hope they get backstabbed by someone with better leadership skills.
 
It's really weird how Lily is constantly going on about fascism being bad, but when you actually look at her own political takes she definitely starts to lean more into actual fascist ideology. It's just Nazism with the nationalism and any indication of being anti-LGBT or racist removed, because that seems to be the only actual problem she has with Nazis. They just weren't exterminating the right people. I genuinely believe that if some gay queen took over the government and started sending all the CIS white men to concentration camps, Lily would be unironically in favor of this.

Her ideal government is an embarrassingly naive and childish one. That what we need is just one really good, honest person to be in charge of everything! The problem comes in when you think about what happens after that one good person has died/finished their rule. Even if they get worthy successors, eventually it'll all go to shit. It's human nature. Some megalomaniac will start a coup to overthrow someone, or a successor won't turn out to be as good as they seemed. It's the same reason why Communism never works. People are inherently power-hungry, and will take the opportunity to obtain power, even if it means fucking someone else over.

Lily can shit on the US all she wants, but at least that system of government gives people the power to vote people like Trump out of office if they don't like him. In Lily's ideal system, the only way to depose of the gay gestapo is to start some kind of violent rebellion, or hope they get backstabbed by someone with better leadership skills.
It's basically the assumption that Dictators are bad, not because they impose totalitarian, unjust laws that squash any and all freedoms and basically turn the people into slaves or graves in pursuit of whatever they think is best with no oversight or opposition. No, Dictators are bad because they aren't pursuing the right future to impose against everyone else's will. As long as the person in power has the right cause, then they will always use their absolute power for only good things.

That's her big problem with the jedi, because they chose not to give themselves that kinda power. She wants them to go over the heads of the republic, cross into foreign territory and start massacring the bad people without consequence or consideration for anyone else. No need to worry about how such a power where no one is allowed to oppose them would be easy to abuse or concerns about one person having such power (you know... Kinda like how the fucking Empire started), because Lilly's chosen would be the purest of characters who would never over step their bounds or make a bad judgment call that oversight would be there to correct.

It doesn't matter if you're a moral or perfect person, someone with so much power without adequate contingencies and rules to keep them in check, to provide consequences, will lead to them being a Dictator.
 
It's really weird how Lily is constantly going on about fascism being bad, but when you actually look at her own political takes she definitely starts to lean more into actual fascist ideology. It's just Nazism with the nationalism and any indication of being anti-LGBT or racist removed, because that seems to be the only actual problem she has with Nazis. They just weren't exterminating the right people. I genuinely believe that if some gay queen took over the government and started sending all the CIS white men to concentration camps, Lily would be unironically in favor of this.

Her ideal government is an embarrassingly naive and childish one. That what we need is just one really good, honest person to be in charge of everything! The problem comes in when you think about what happens after that one good person has died/finished their rule. Even if they get worthy successors, eventually it'll all go to shit. It's human nature. Some megalomaniac will start a coup to overthrow someone, or a successor won't turn out to be as good as they seemed. It's the same reason why Communism never works. People are inherently power-hungry, and will take the opportunity to obtain power, even if it means fucking someone else over.

Lily can shit on the US all she wants, but at least that system of government gives people the power to vote people like Trump out of office if they don't like him. In Lily's ideal system, the only way to depose of the gay gestapo is to start some kind of violent rebellion, or hope they get backstabbed by someone with better leadership skills.
Pretty much, yeah.
Lily's ideal state with the Val'kyr was a totalitarian, collectivist, pro-LGBT utopia under the rule of Lord Ryder, her immortal, all-powerful, planet destroying, self-insert dictator, who is literally more powerful than GOD.
Lord Ryder was exactly that Ideal Man type ruler, who didn't actually want to be in charge, but took up leadership anyway, because she was just so gosh darn responsible and everyone loved her for being so gosh darn amazing.
Of course the Val'kyr were also Space Nazis, who deemed all mortals inferior to themselves and commited planetary genocide against anyone who pissed them off, just because they could, but they "supposed" to be bad guys. But they were still also totally sympathetic and cute lesbeans for Lily to gush over at the same time.
 
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antisemitism is more in intent than in the image itself, if nobody associates them with Jews anymore then the image loses its offensive connotation because they don't carry the same logic of 80 years ago

Conspiracy theories have become a joke for good reason, so that no one assumes that any information they receive is true and jump to the hasty conclusions that started these violent events in the first place.

when Rebbeca made fun of Sneeple in SU, nobody (not even Lily) had a problem because the image is used in a new context
and even today the only ones I see associating monstrous races with real groups are people who want virtue signaling with something completely harmless, nobody is being radicalized for playing D&D

these people still give so much power to the dead Nazis to the point that these images can start a new genocide or hurt someone in real life

You're not just saying that you don't like a conspiracy theory, you're saying that those who like it are spreading antisemeticism, and that's what these people are having trouble with your facts

to say that lizard people and goblins cannot be used because someone is offended only by their mention regardless of the context is to prevent the world from growing beyond its history, it has to stop living in the past already
 
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antisemitism is more in intent than in the image itself, if nobody associates them with Jews anymore then the image loses its offensive connotation because they don't carry the same logic of 80 years ago

Conspiracy theories have become a joke for good reason, so that no one assumes that any information they receive is true and jump to the hasty conclusions that started these violent events in the first place.

when Rebbeca made fun of Sneeple in SU, nobody (not even Lily) had a problem because the image is used in a new context
and even today the only ones I see associating monstrous races with real groups are people who want virtue signaling with something completely harmless, nobody is being radicalized for playing D&D

these people still give so much power to the dead Nazis to the point that these images can start a new genocide or hurt someone in real life

You're not just saying that you don't like a conspiracy theory, you're saying that those who like it are spreading antisemeticism, and that's what these people are having trouble with your facts

to say that lizard people and goblins cannot be used because someone is offended only by their mention regardless of the context is to prevent the world from growing beyond its history, it has to stop living in the past already
Oh I hate that shit.
"No laughing at insane conspiracy people, turning this idea into a joke that no one takes seriously will only further legitimize it"
It's like saying that making jokes about Nigerian prince scammers only convinces people to start giving money to Nigerian prince scammers. It's retarded.
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I'm sure you can find Jewish people saying it's ok, just as you can easily find in the LGBTQ + community people who accept Queer as an identity
here's the thing, confirmation bias works on both sides, because of that it's not reliable as an argument since they cancel themselves

and also Lily you only mention Jews when they agree with you, when you can earn woke points by pretending to care, because if I remember correctly you have no problem associating a Jewish woman with Nazi apology

next time try to have a mind of your own instead of depending on the opinion of those who are also just trying to win the prize of Wokest of the Month

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Lily talking about Hazbin Hotel
it will be fun to see her having to remove everything she said positive about it
 
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it's ironic because that 2 hour post made by those two professional writers literally brings up the points that some of her 'advice' contradicts the fact that she loves Vaggie from hasbin hotel.
Isn't it funny also (not really because lily is this predicable) that she only disliked vaggie/Hasbin when apparently one of the writers wronged her supposed friend?

Jesus lily is a petty bitch. One bad thing and the whole media is thrown in the garbage.

Tangle bad because Jewish stereotype-iguessimstretchingshuddup

Steven universe bad because why is steven the main character in his self titled show? I really wanna just kill the brat at this point
MLP bad cuz starlight glimmer is a better character than she'll ever write. Starlight inserted herself into the main six just fine, but anything lily writes that self insert into the main/canon plot is hot garbage.

And im hoping one day Family Guy will wrong her as if i hear 'give me money' one more time- you fucking scaf- you wouldn't have to ask pester if you created decent content, to begin with.
 
it's ironic because that 2 hour post made by those two professional writers literally brings up the points that some of her 'advice' contradicts the fact that she loves Vaggie from hasbin hotel.
Isn't it funny also (not really because lily is this predicable) that she only disliked vaggie/Hasbin when apparently one of the writers wronged her supposed friend?
For somebody who wants to be such a strong personality, Lily's tastes really do change with the wind. When one person of the Right Opinion (or Right Skin Color) says something, she adopts it wholeheartedly, even if it goes against an opinion she held before. There's no real thought behind anything she does, she just moves with the tides, either accepting the 'right things' to accept or hating things that are popular to hate.

Because honestly the anti-Vaggie sentiment's really shallow. The two writers in that podcast call her out for being a totally undefined character with a super-vague relationship with Charlie that you can't even start to figure out, which isn't true. Vaggie is highly attached to Charlie and extremely protective of her. She's angry at anybody who looks like they would remotely threaten her, is highly anxious when Charlie puts herself in perceived danger, and obviously cares very much about Charlie and about keeping her safe. You can extrapolate a lot from that even if it's not directly stated (and it shouldn't be in the pilot episode where you're selling an audience or a producer on a premise and you have to introduce that premise, the setting, the ensemble, the dynamics... what did these guys want? A conversation between Vaggie and Charlie where they talk at each other about how they met and why they're girlfriends? Sounds natural to me.) Hell, there's a huge point of interest when Angel Dust asks her (somewhat paraphrased), "Is there a man you do trust? Any men? Heh. Men?" Obviously something happened to her, it was an evil done by men, and it's probably related to why she's in Hell.

But because it's not elaborated on or specifically talked about, it doesn't exist and implicit information isn't real. Same thing for them just laughing off Alastor, too. The two writers make a point that there are 'no consequences' in Hazbin Hotel because Charlie didn't shake Alastor's hand, apparently totally unaware that the conflict is obviously going to be Alastor manipulating events in order to force Charlie into a position where they have to make a deal. The pilot established the tension of 'what happens if she does make a deal?' instead of following the immediate consequences and they dismissed that as the show having no stakes. Given that they're professional writers it was pretty baffling to see them just utterly not understand what the show was doing, 'cuz it aint' that hard.

Going back to Lily specifically, I did a quick search to figure out what the context for suddenly disliking Vaggie is and yeah, it really is that shallow; somebody else said something, I assume it was somebody with some amount of clout, therefore Lily is now cold to the character. Also the last time she mentioned Vaggie (properly spelled, at least) was three months ago and only now does she get an 'Anonymous Ask' which conveniently sets her up to mention an upcoming video. It's small potatoes compared to how she usually anons herself but still part of her pattern.

Somewhat unrelated but in looking for what she said about Vaggie I also found a few posts where she was railing against Hazbin ships putting Charlie with anybody that wasn't Vaggie and saying 'why would anybody assume she liked men?' She says this in the same breath as mentioning that Charlie's sexuality isn't well-explained within context of the show, implying that she must have looked at outside information too... which would reveal that Charlie is bi and that shipping her with male characters wouldn't be a problem even if Vivzie herself cared (and Vivzie does not care how people have fun with her characters so why raise hackles on her behalf?) Just thought that bi erasure was pretty funny coming from Lily.
 
Vaggie probably is the weakest and most undefined character... but it's a pilot. A pilot that needs to set up the premise and the world. Giving her focus wasn't a priority, and now that the show has been picked up she can be explored more. Like I'm not a huge Hazbin fan but I watched it, it's a neat idea, it has a distinctive art style, but some of these takes online act like it should have had the depth of an entire season or something.
 
For somebody who wants to be such a strong personality, Lily's tastes really do change with the wind. When one person of the Right Opinion (or Right Skin Color) says something, she adopts it wholeheartedly, even if it goes against an opinion she held before. There's no real thought behind anything she does, she just moves with the tides, either accepting the 'right things' to accept or hating things that are popular to hate.

Because honestly the anti-Vaggie sentiment's really shallow. The two writers in that podcast call her out for being a totally undefined character with a super-vague relationship with Charlie that you can't even start to figure out, which isn't true. Vaggie is highly attached to Charlie and extremely protective of her. She's angry at anybody who looks like they would remotely threaten her, is highly anxious when Charlie puts herself in perceived danger, and obviously cares very much about Charlie and about keeping her safe. You can extrapolate a lot from that even if it's not directly stated (and it shouldn't be in the pilot episode where you're selling an audience or a producer on a premise and you have to introduce that premise, the setting, the ensemble, the dynamics... what did these guys want? A conversation between Vaggie and Charlie where they talk at each other about how they met and why they're girlfriends? Sounds natural to me.) Hell, there's a huge point of interest when Angel Dust asks her (somewhat paraphrased), "Is there a man you do trust? Any men? Heh. Men?" Obviously something happened to her, it was an evil done by men, and it's probably related to why she's in Hell.

But because it's not elaborated on or specifically talked about, it doesn't exist and implicit information isn't real. Same thing for them just laughing off Alastor, too. The two writers make a point that there are 'no consequences' in Hazbin Hotel because Charlie didn't shake Alastor's hand, apparently totally unaware that the conflict is obviously going to be Alastor manipulating events in order to force Charlie into a position where they have to make a deal. The pilot established the tension of 'what happens if she does make a deal?' instead of following the immediate consequences and they dismissed that as the show having no stakes. Given that they're professional writers it was pretty baffling to see them just utterly not understand what the show was doing, 'cuz it aint' that hard.

Going back to Lily specifically, I did a quick search to figure out what the context for suddenly disliking Vaggie is and yeah, it really is that shallow; somebody else said something, I assume it was somebody with some amount of clout, therefore Lily is now cold to the character. Also the last time she mentioned Vaggie (properly spelled, at least) was three months ago and only now does she get an 'Anonymous Ask' which conveniently sets her up to mention an upcoming video. It's small potatoes compared to how she usually anons herself but still part of her pattern.

Somewhat unrelated but in looking for what she said about Vaggie I also found a few posts where she was railing against Hazbin ships putting Charlie with anybody that wasn't Vaggie and saying 'why would anybody assume she liked men?' She says this in the same breath as mentioning that Charlie's sexuality isn't well-explained within context of the show, implying that she must have looked at outside information too... which would reveal that Charlie is bi and that shipping her with male characters wouldn't be a problem even if Vivzie herself cared (and Vivzie does not care how people have fun with her characters so why raise hackles on her behalf?) Just thought that bi erasure was pretty funny coming from Lily.
Remember how she said something recently along the lines of 'the only reason I'm not transphobic is because there's nothing for me to gain from being so. It's not a hill worth dying on"?

I think that's really indicative of Lily's approach to these issues. IE, if a Jewish woman has interpreted Mother Gothel as being anti-semitic and is upset over that, Lily will roll with it just because trying to argue with them may make her look anti-semitic, herself (Don't worry Lily, there's lots of other ammunition people can use to call you anti-semitic). It's the same thing with this Vaggie nonsense, her weird thing with goblins, and any other time she's changed her opinion so quickly.

Just typical tumblr stuff. So afraid of looking like a whatever-ist that they bend to whatever movement is gaining traction. It's easier to just accept that Apu is an offensive stereotype because one Indian guy said so than it is to try and formulate an argument against it
 
Vaggie probably is the weakest and most undefined character... but it's a pilot. A pilot that needs to set up the premise and the world. Giving her focus wasn't a priority, and now that the show has been picked up she can be explored more. Like I'm not a huge Hazbin fan but I watched it, it's a neat idea, it has a distinctive art style, but some of these takes online act like it should have had the depth of an entire season or something.
Most discourse these days is 80% feelings and 20% impatience so I'm not surprised.
 
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Who? I know it's been ages since I've played a Blizzard game but who the fuck is she referring to? Sylvanas?
 
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Who? I know it's been ages since I've played a Blizzard game but who the fuck is she referring to? Sylvanas?
Lilly's one of those people who love to jump to 'it's a rape analogy' for female character's trauma. So, Arthas reviving Sylvanas as a slave briefly is considered rape in her eyes even though it's in no way rape. And don't worry, it doesn't count as rape for the male characters. The interpretation of Sylvanas being a rape survivor is seemingly popular in the Wow community.
 
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Lilly's one of those people who love to jump to 'it's a rape analogy' for female character's trauma. So, Arthas reviving Sylvanas as a slave briefly is considered rape in her eyes even though it's in no way rape. And don't worry, it doesn't count as rape for the male characters. The interpretation of Sylvanas being a rape survivor is seemingly popular in the Wow community.
Wait, necromancy is rape in the eyes of Lily? What the actual fuck? Well, if somebody wants to rape Jerry and he still have a penis isn't rape from her
 
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