2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Wish they'd just stop with all the Kraken stuff, they keep using it and it's cringy every time.

Trump said in his Fox interview just now that if he loses, the right will never win on a Senate or Presidential level ever again.
So even he openly realizes it.
That seems like the most likely outcome if the right believes that the guys they voted in didn't do enough against what's believed to be large scale voter fraud. As long as there's still the instinctual idea that fraud might have happened among the right voters this will be a problem. Why should they vote for someone that flees at the first case of conflict? The people shown to be fighting on the side of Trump might at least be able to hang on by saying "We tried our best" but all those that turned their backs when asked by their voting base why they did nothing or actively got in the way? You might be able to make it with fresh faces unrelated to this, but then again it doesn't matter if fraud really was so rampant.
 
He didn't bring up all of the right, he performed ritual Christcucking to which I responded.
He did say to not be passive though, just that he has faith there's a higher world then this. I'd agree with you if he just said "Don't worry about any of this, and don't try anything because Jesus loves you".
 
You can't fight Marxism by turning muh other cheek and losing gracefully.

Turning the other check does not mean pacifism. It means not to respond to insults of your honor (a slap on your cheek) with violence, as was custom at the time. Its to stop people brawling and killing eachother because one dude essentially called another dude a loser in public.

Stealing an election and subverting the republic is not a simple insult to honor but a severe physical attack that is allowed to be responded too. Jesus encourages people to solve problems non violently or with the minimum of force needed. Thats it. No suicidal pacifism involved.

Christians have been solidiers since the beginning and self defense is fully allowed. God himself led battles and called nations to war.

In the Scripture 3 roman soldiers came to John and asked what they could do to be saved and instead of telling them to stop being soldiers, just told them not to steal from the citizenry. Theres many examples of this.

Like this is Christian smear 101 and you fell for it.
 
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Turning the other check does not mean pacifism. It means not to respond to insults of your honor (a slap on your cheek) with violence, as was custom at the time. Its to stop people brawling and killing eachother because one dude essentially called another dude a loser in public.

Stealing an election and subverting the republic is not a simple insult to honor but a severe physical attack that is allowed to be responded too. Jesus encourages people to solve problems non violently or with the minimum of force needed. Thats it. No suicidal pacifism involved.

Christians have been solidiers since the beginning and self defense is fully allowed. God himself led battles and called nations to war.

In the Scripture 3 roman soldiers came to John and asked what they could do to be saved and instead of telling them to stop being soldiers, just told them not to steal from the citizenry. Theres many examples of this.

Like this is Christian smear 101 and you fell for it.
Everyone's at each others throats nowadays, this is to be expected.
Also I find it funny Truthboi negrated your post. Someone who likes anime doesn't like religion? I'm shocked.
 

https://www.expressandstar.com/news...-after-twisting-ankle-while-playing-with-dog/
https://archive.vn/OyvLg

Mr Biden suffered the injury on Saturday and planned to visit an orthopaedist for an examination on Sunday afternoon, his office said.

Mr Biden was playing with Major, one of the Bidens’ two dogs. They adopted Major in 2018, and acquired their first dog, Champ, after the 2008 election.

Here's the dog in question

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/biden-major-shelter-dog_n_5fa701cfc5b623bfac505e82?ri18n=true
https://archive.vn/wip/8FN2N

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You can tell from his quizzical expression he knows something is up. Good boy, Major! Good boy!
 
I know I'm probably gonna beat a dead horse by saying this, but fuck it - what people like @Hollywood Hulk Hogan don't understand is that we're not just angry because "TRUMP LOST REEEEEEEE!". If he lost and Biden won fair and square, most of us would be like "aw, that sucks" and move on with our lives. We're angry because he "lost" in a way that, to me and everyone else not drinking the MSM's flavor-aid, seems incredibly....fishy, to say the least.

I desperately want to ask the Dems and the RINOs/Never-Trumpers this: if the exact same thing happened on Election Night, but the circumstances were reversed - Trump suddenly getting hundreds of thousands of votes in the middle of the night out of absolutely NOWHERE, thus handing the election to him on a silver platter - how would YOU feel? Would you just lay down and take it, like you're begging Trump to do right now, or would you (rightfully) demand a recount/audit, like we are right now? I'd be more willing to bet you'd do the latter (with an extra dose of ANTIFA/BLM riots thrown in for good measure). The integrity of our own elections is at stake here, and yet, these fucking assholes don't care because their blatant cheating got their guy into office. (Give me my fedoras and clocks now, please and thanks).

Also, imagine how the minority voters who voted Trump must feel...let's say, a black dude who's doing pretty good right now in part because of Trump's effect on the economy, and voting for him because he wants the good shit to continue. By them blatantly cheating like this, and openly disparaging any minority voter who voted Trump, the Democrats are effectively saying this:

"Oh yeah, Black Lives Matter!.....except if you vote the wrong way, advocate for the wrong things (black self-sufficiency, two-parent homes, less ghetto culture, etc.) or practice the wrong things (working hard, home ownership, etc.), in which case, your vote/life doesn't mean shit. Get back in the fucking pod and stop asking questions, you nigg- I mean, Uncle Tom!"

TL;DR: The Dems are hypocrites, and are actively flushing our country down the toilet, news at 11.
What you tards don't understand is that you can REEEE all you want about fraud, and Trump can, too, but without presenting actual evidence of said fraud, your conspiracy theories are no different than QAnoners'.

They have done audits and recounts. None showed fraud. What more would it take to convince you that your man lost fair and square? If you left the Trump bubble now and them, you'd see he's very, very unpopular

Trump's own lawyers, when under oath, said there is no evidence of fraud. Charts of cherry-picked ratios and screenshots taken from Parler and Twitter aren't admissible evidence, btw.
 
What you tards don't understand is that you can REEEE all you want about fraud, and Trump can, too, but without presenting actual evidence of said fraud, your conspiracy theories are no different than QAnoners'.

They have done audits and recounts. None showed fraud. What more would it take to convince you that your man lost fair and square? If you left the Trump bubble now and them, you'd see he's very, very unpopular

Trump's own lawyers, when under oath, said there is no evidence of fraud. Charts of cherry-picked ratios and screenshots taken from Parler and Twitter aren't admissible evidence, btw.
lol, calm down
 
It's not any one specific thing that gets my attention so much as it is everything on the whole. I know I've probably already shat out a text wall about it but when everything is put under the same tent, it really doesn't make any sense. It's definitely within the realm of possibility, but when you take it as a whole instead of as isolated incidents, this would be the most improbable election in the history of this country, bordering on impossible.

1) Trump received more votes than any incumbent in a re-election bid in history. Population growth is all well and good, but upwards of 75 million votes is still fucking massive. That's more than 10 million than he had in the previous election, and the third-largest leap for any incumbent in the history of the country.​
2) 95% of Republicans voted for him--it was basically unanimous--and he improved his totals with every single single demographic save for white men, but that fell only a small amount compared to the huge leaps he'd made in other demographics--such as black men-- where he gained more than 50% of his previous base. Joe Biden, meanwhile, fell well beneath 90% for many of the minority groups, which is far beneath the threshold where Democrats need to excel in order to win an election. It's basically a guaranteed loss.​
3) Biden has the absolute lowest number of counties ever recorded for a "victorious" President at 524, even lower than Obama's previous 'record' of 873, and yet regardless of this, Biden somehow topped Obama's 2008 election by almost 20 million votes. The vast majority of these votes come from the cities, specifically the swing states that are currently being contested, cities with very large minority populations, which Joe Biden had an absolutely abysmal turnout with all across the country with the exception of these, specific cities.
4) Biden has somehow accomplished this without any gains whatsoever down-ballot. A "blow-out" candidate always has some measure of success for candidates that are down-ballot, leading to spikes in local, state, House and Senate elections. None of this occurred. Democrats lost every single contested election this year, and lost seats in the Senate and the House.​
5) Trump, meanwhile, had a massive amount of down-ballot support, as the GOP has won every single contested seat that was up for grabs this year. All 27 of them flipped or maintained Red, even though every single one of them was supposed to be competitive. This is a pattern that you only see in candidates who have a massive victory and drag everyone else along "on their coat-tails", and yet Trump allegedly lost. The GOP did not lose a single state legislature, and actually gained seats at the state level.​
6) The "Bellweather States" swung further in Trump's direction in this election than his previous one. Joe Biden didn't win a single one of them, and these states have been an accurate predictor for the Presidential election since 1852. The only President who lost his election with the 'support' of the Bellweather States was Richard Nixon in 1960, meaning it's not impossible, but it is very improbable.​
7) Historically, states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin swing in the same direction as Iowa and Ohio, and Ohio tends to follow suit with Florida. With very few exceptions in a few scattered cities, Trump swept up the 'Rust Belt' in this election. Yet, Biden's lead and his "victory" in these three states is due to a massive outpouring of minority votes in Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee. This support is exclusive to these cities, and was not reproduced anywhere else in the nation, only in the specific cities that Biden "needed" to win.​

I do not think it is statistically probable that Joe Biden won this election. Every measurable metric that determines a loss or a victory was completely upended. He had horribly low minority support, and yet he "won." He failed to capture any Bellweather states, and yet he "won." He had absolutely no down-ballot support and lost his party every single contested election, and yet he "won."

Individually, none of these things are too strange. Elections have been won in the past with one or two of these scenarios not playing out in the candidate's favour, but there has never been an election where every single possible indicator has swung into the negative, and had the candidate come out on top, let alone come out on top so far that they completely demolish all of the previous records, including the record that was just set by their opponent in that election.

1. And? More people voted than ever before. This is expected.
2. And? Joe Biden still got more votes. Trump is way more unpopular than you guys think he is. Leave the Trump hugboxes every now and then and you'll see that.
3. And? Joe still got more votes. This was due to more mail-in votes, most likely, due to the pandemic. In larger cities, there was efforts to get everyone to vote.
4. So you think they're gonna rig the election for the Democrats just in the presidential race, but not the senate and state legislatures? Come on now, that's retarded.
5. See #4.
6. That doesn't really matter. What matters is the total electoral votes. Voters in PA and MI were pissed at Trump because he promised them they'd keep their jobs and he lied. It's not a tough concept.
7. See #7 and #2. People in large cities, where it's mainly minority voters, do not like Trump. Trump actively flouted that the "real Americans" were in the small, rural towns. He pretty much said he didn't give a shit if people in larger cities died of covid. It's not a surprise that people in cities don't like him.

lol, calm down
Lol someone is mad that I don't like Trump. Shouldn't you be whining more about how your dad hasn't let you move into your free apartment?
 
If that’s the case, it seems highly unlikely that 99% of a district would only go to one candidate. Why only Biden? Wouldn’t there be third party voters and Trump voters in there too? Wisconsin is a swing state as well, and even in the bluest areas I doubt Biden got 99% of the vote. If we’re being realistic, things should have been split 70/30, 60/40, 50/50. The number of votes Trump got in that dump is comically small and I refuse to believe it’s legitimate, especially since Biden barely campaigned anywhere except Pennsylvania.
If you read the factual election thread, this is as disproven as all the other coper claims.
Donald Trump and countless others suggested there was something nefarious about Biden receiving a dump of 143,379 votes at 3:42 am on election night. Others claim that Trump received no votes in that voter dump. In reality, these ballots were not exclusively for Biden and everyone knew that this bucket of votes was coming and would be predominantly for Biden. This batch of votes represented the absentee ballots from Milwaukee County. Milwaukee officials had announced earlier in the night exactly how many votes they would be counting (~170k) and those who were watching the news at that time on election night would have even witnessed the police escort as county officials rushed to report the results to the county courthouse. In fact, I personally tweeted as 3 am that the Milwaukee absentee ballots would “drop shortly” and give us a better indication of the race in Wisconsin since it was clear these ballots would mostly go for Biden and Trump was holding onto a small lead at that time.
It's not any one specific thing that gets my attention so much as it is everything on the whole. I know I've probably already shat out a text wall about it but when everything is put under the same tent, it really doesn't make any sense. It's definitely within the realm of possibility, but when you take it as a whole instead of as isolated incidents, this would be the most improbable election in the history of this country, bordering on impossible.

1) Trump received more votes than any incumbent in a re-election bid in history. Population growth is all well and good, but upwards of 75 million votes is still fucking massive. That's more than 10 million than he had in the previous election, and the third-largest leap for any incumbent in the history of the country.​
2) 95% of Republicans voted for him--it was basically unanimous--and he improved his totals with every single single demographic save for white men, but that fell only a small amount compared to the huge leaps he'd made in other demographics--such as black men-- where he gained more than 50% of his previous base. Joe Biden, meanwhile, fell well beneath 90% for many of the minority groups, which is far beneath the threshold where Democrats need to excel in order to win an election. It's basically a guaranteed loss.​
3) Biden has the absolute lowest number of counties ever recorded for a "victorious" President at 524, even lower than Obama's previous 'record' of 873, and yet regardless of this, Biden somehow topped Obama's 2008 election by almost 20 million votes. The vast majority of these votes come from the cities, specifically the swing states that are currently being contested, cities with very large minority populations, which Joe Biden had an absolutely abysmal turnout with all across the country with the exception of these, specific cities.
4) Biden has somehow accomplished this without any gains whatsoever down-ballot. A "blow-out" candidate always has some measure of success for candidates that are down-ballot, leading to spikes in local, state, House and Senate elections. None of this occurred. Democrats lost every single contested election this year, and lost seats in the Senate and the House.​
5) Trump, meanwhile, had a massive amount of down-ballot support, as the GOP has won every single contested seat that was up for grabs this year. All 27 of them flipped or maintained Red, even though every single one of them was supposed to be competitive. This is a pattern that you only see in candidates who have a massive victory and drag everyone else along "on their coat-tails", and yet Trump allegedly lost. The GOP did not lose a single state legislature, and actually gained seats at the state level.​
6) The "Bellweather States" swung further in Trump's direction in this election than his previous one. Joe Biden didn't win a single one of them, and these states have been an accurate predictor for the Presidential election since 1852. The only President who lost his election with the 'support' of the Bellweather States was Richard Nixon in 1960, meaning it's not impossible, but it is very improbable.​
7) Historically, states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin swing in the same direction as Iowa and Ohio, and Ohio tends to follow suit with Florida. With very few exceptions in a few scattered cities, Trump swept up the 'Rust Belt' in this election. Yet, Biden's lead and his "victory" in these three states is due to a massive outpouring of minority votes in Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee. This support is exclusive to these cities, and was not reproduced anywhere else in the nation, only in the specific cities that Biden "needed" to win.​

I do not think it is statistically probable that Joe Biden won this election. Every measurable metric that determines a loss or a victory was completely upended. He had horribly low minority support, and yet he "won." He failed to capture any Bellweather states, and yet he "won." He had absolutely no down-ballot support and lost his party every single contested election, and yet he "won."

Individually, none of these things are too strange. Elections have been won in the past with one or two of these scenarios not playing out in the candidate's favour, but there has never been an election where every single possible indicator has swung into the negative, and had the candidate come out on top, let alone come out on top so far that they completely demolish all of the previous records, including the record that was just set by their opponent in that election.
tldr: Trump sucks, people didn't like him, suck it up
 
Lol someone is mad that I don't like Trump. Shouldn't you be whining more about how your dad hasn't let you move into your free apartment?
I don’t care if you like Trump or not, I just find your defenses to be subpar. Insult me all you want, I’m not changing my mind. If you’re going to have a somewhat decent defense for this election, it’s best to use plausible deniability rather than “X got the most votes, so therefore you’re wrong”.
 
I didn't see you Trumpers frothing about it then, though. In fact, you guys said it was no problem.

Can't speak for anyone else but I was talking bout it constantly. Just was not on the Farms back then.

I do vaguely remember some on the right pointing it out but mostly they were focused on dealing with the Dems immediately screaming impeach him and Russian collusion.
 
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