Since the zealous fraud denial is ramping up again, whether it be genuine or not, reminder that this site exists:
https://hereistheevidence.com/. I'd be impressed if someone could thoroughly debunk all of the verified claims listed here, especially when it comes to polling place irregularities which are often ignored by those who are adamant there was no significant fraud. In general, I'm not sure what would even count as hard evidence to fraud deniers (aside from if the other side did it), considering the very nature of fraud means that statistical analysis and suspicious/improper procedure are often the strongest evidence you can possibly obtain without audits, and also to justify audits.
Should also be noted that the legal system is not immune from corruption, nothing is, no matter how prestigious and non-partisan a field claims to be- additionally, many judges will be hesitant to make such a huge legal decision that could overturn the election, even if they aren't politically biased, hence the push for SCOTUS which you'd expect to be able to handle these decisions better (though even then, it's still a hefty weight). That being said, I don't think Trump's legal team is doing nearly as well as they could, so it's not like either side is free of blame here. If they fail, it doesn't mean no fraud took place, the legal system is not the word of god. Not even statistically significant evidence in several metrics of this election is, but it's certainly much closer and less partisan.
Sure I'll bite, I've done this a few times already.
I know most people here probably think I'm just spitting out stuff the MSM feeds me or whatever but I take everything with a giant grain of salt and have independently looked into some of these fraud theories because I do actually care a lot if there was some coordinated or wide scale fraud. Even the smaller scale stuff like some guy getting his kid that went to college or dead wife’s ballot and mailing it off without them should be thoroughly prosecuted imo and if anyone has access to the hard records required, which unfortunately cost more money than I care to dump into something with no financial return, I have the math background and technical abilities to follow through on something like that once I get more free time. If anyone is interested and has this data feel free to find my DMs.
Anyways I've looked into some of these theories. So far all I’ve seen is sloppy work from people who are more interested in "finding fraud" than finding the truth if you know what I mean. I've got one more in me though, let's go.
I need to pick one with material evidence I have access to. Let's go with this one.
... of decreased voters in Pennsylvania. BIG IF TRUE.
Okay seems like a pretty straightforward accusation.
Okay 99% accurate. I should have no problem then. I can check online for the ballot status then find the obituary and we've got em. Let's start at the top of the list.
Umm,
. I'm already seeing a problem here. They clearly sourced two different obituaries for different people. Well anyways I can tell which one is correct by DOB time to check the voter records.
well okay 1% error. Let's keep going.
Next one down.
Oh wow we fucking got a live one!
Dead voter confirmed, oh wait a second.
I guess they still have to count your vote if you die a week after election day.
Okay let's find another one. I'm skipping all the "Bob Smiths" because it's too hard to verify ultra common names and you start to run into the "
birthday problem".
Negative. Okay I think you see where this is going. Let me skip ahead, I checked 10 this was the closest I found to """"proof."""
So if tribute.com is to be believed this man is dead yet voted. That said they have no obituary or even date of death listed so it's unclear how this ended up in their database. I looked deeper into this turns out there were 2 John Jarosz in PA who would be roughly the same age range. One died in 1993, his death records is not on tributes.com but does show up on ancestry.com. Here's his obituary from a different search.
I can't find a single record of John W Jarosz from Pennsylvania being dead and multiples of John A so this looks like a bad records match on tributes.com end.
Anyways that's enough wasted time for one day. It's pretty clear this list is not vetted. Despite the 99% accuracy claim I couldn't verify a single dead dead voter from a sample size of ten. It looks like they took an old voter registration list, likely because a new one costs way more money, then just ran a script to find any matching obituary under the sun even though you can clearly see false positives on the first entry and over half the names I checked didn't even show up in the system. Then all of their links to the "source" images that are supposed to show the registrations return 404. If anyone can find a death notice for John W Jarosz of Washington county PA I will be more than happy to look into it further but so far I'm like 0 for 40 on these "verified list of dead voters" claims.
