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I just looked at the stats for my southern state. It’s roughly a 1% death rate (not accounting for age). The hospitalization rate is a little over 10% of positive patients. And looking at the flu/pneumonia data, well what do you know, it’s killed more people this year in this state than Covid.

Fuck this mask. It’s going into the trash with all the socks I can’t find a match for.
 
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Alrighty then.
 
The irony is totally lost on her. There wasn't even a need to keep some elderly person isolated from their family for worry of the Wu Flu. That's the real fucking crime here, not that some guy ate lunch with his friends. This is why elderly people are killing themselves: they're kept locked up in their rooms, forbidden from being with their families, and told there's no end in sight because this bullshit is 'the new normal.' Fuck that.
 
Simply do not give up. Refuse to lose. Keep in mind if you were to off yourself, some motherfucker will hear the news and laugh. I shit you not. Don't give that motherfucker the pleasure.
Don't give up. Get mad instead if you have to. I spent a solid 10+ years running off anger and you can too!
Though, if you want more healthy suggestions I can recommend a shit ton of video games, books, and podcasts and I'm sure the others can, too.
 
This is from one of my two favorite evo psych/anthropology bloggers (the other being westhunter -- give them a look, they're extremely interesting; their views are by no means heterodox but they are original thinkers and bring a lot of light to a criminally understudied academic area):





ACE2 is a cell receptor that mediates the infection of lung tissue by coronaviruses, either the one that causes COVID-19 or others that cause the common cold. The ACE2 gene has 1,700 alleles, some of which are associated with increased susceptibility to coronavirus infection (Frost 2020).



This difference in susceptibility has been shown in a recent Indian study (Srivastava et al. 2020). COVID-19 is most fatal in the western states of Gujarat, Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh, and Punjab. Conversely, it is least fatal in the northeast states of Assam, Arunachal Pradesh, and Nagaland. This pattern closely correlates with genetic variation at the rs2285666 locus of ACE2. The presence or absence of a single allele explains 35% of the variation in the COVID-19 case-fatality rate.



The authors conclude that some kind of selection has been acting on rs2285666. If we look at the map, susceptibility to COVID-19 seems to be strongest in those regions with the longest history of sedentary living and large urban centers. Conversely, it seems to be weakest in the Northeast, which is home to people who, until recent times, belonged to small communities that routinely moved from one cultivable area to another.



These findings are consistent with the hypothesis that the ACE2 receptor has coevolved with human environments. Because respiratory viruses boost the immune response of lung tissue and thereby prevent more serious pulmonary diseases (e.g., tuberculosis, pneumonia, pneumonic plague), some human populations may have gained protection from severe respiratory infections by becoming more susceptible to mild respiratory infections, such as those normally caused by coronaviruses. This commensal relationship would have been especially adaptive where respiratory pathogens could easily propagate, that is, in crowded environments where many people live in proximity not only to each other but also to livestock. In regions that have long had crowded environments, natural selection may have favored susceptibility to infection by coronaviruses, which are normally mild in their effects, as a means to maintain a strong immune response to deadly pulmonary diseases (Frost 2020).
 
The irony is totally lost on her. There wasn't even a need to keep some elderly person isolated from their family for worry of the Wu Flu. That's the real fucking crime here, not that some guy ate lunch with his friends. This is why elderly people are killing themselves: they're kept locked up in their rooms, forbidden from being with their families, and told there's no end in sight because this bullshit is 'the new normal.' Fuck that.

The Twitter guilt posts always do me in. My favorite one that I saw in the last few weeks was the woman who posted her high blood pressure result, saying she still had severe problems long after recovering from it, without photoshopping out the date on the reveal which showed that it was done in 2018.

Oops. I'm not sure if that post ever made it to this thread, but it was entertaining how nobody called her out for it.
 
Who can blame them at this point? They voted the cocksucker in long before he showed his true colors this year.

Seriously, who would've thought a lot of our governors would be so eager to slit their state's throat before Corona.

Why would they want to stick to a burning ship steering towards an iceberg field?
Say what you want about Kemp - and there is a lot to say about Kemp right now - but all we got was 2 weeks of lockdown (as promised) and nothing more.
 

Washington Exposure Notifications - WA Notify

"Washington Exposure Notifications (also known as WA Notify) is a new tool that works through smartphones, without sharing any personal information, to alert users if they may have been exposed to COVID-19. It is completely private, and doesn’t know or track who you are or where you go."
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Washington Exposure Notifications - WA Notify

"Washington Exposure Notifications (also known as WA Notify) is a new tool that works through smartphones, without sharing any personal information, to alert users if they may have been exposed to COVID-19. It is completely private, and doesn’t know or track who you are or where you go."
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That doesn’t look secure at all. If it relies on phones sending messages to each other through Bluetooth, then it can be hacked. Bluetooth is known for being easily hacked. Additionally, I just see some totalitarian mayors and governors using this so they know where their subjects are at all times.
 
From 437 to 914 in about 30 days. In a state with a population of roughly 900k people, pretty well spaced out without crazy lopsided population density like NY or NJ (which have cases clustered in major cities with extremely high population density and massive public transportation infrastructure).Another good comparison would be Wyoming, which has a population around 600k and a population density far lower than SD. Its fatality and case rate are far lower than SD.
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Here’s a list of death per 100k - a standard way of looking at rates without bias. You can find it on the CDC website. SD and ND are totally out of place on this chart. They’re outliers and shouldn’t be at this level of death rate. They’ve got populations lower than everywhere in the top 11 but DC and maybe Rhode Island. But they’ve got the lowest population density of anywhere on this list as well. Let’s look at states with similar population densities and where they are on the list.

New Mexico is a great analog to both the Dakotas, as it has roughly the same population density while having about twice the population. It’s death rate per capita is 72. If you put both the Dakotas together, in population (I’m estimating about 1.8 million total and I’m being generous) and do the death rate per capita you still end up at 104 per 100k. This super Dakota has similar demographics and population akin to Nebraska, which has a death rate per capita of... 51. That’s half. So what’s different between Nebraska, New Mexico, and the Dakotas? Local/State mask mandates, with legal consequences. SD has only a couple mask mandates and one in Brookings has been active since the summer. There has been no state wide restrictions . The rest are very recent and have no legal consequences. Meanwhile, New Mexico has had state wide restrictions for a lot longer, and Nebraska had very successful contact tracing and quarantine measures in place since March, which helped slow or stop the spread. Add in mandatory and legally enforced mask mandates (and other restrictions) in the major cities in Nebraska, and you can see why the rate is much lower.


This thread will suit you better. You and OP can beat each other off until your dicks are bloody, foaming over the PIIIIIILLLLLLLEEEESSSS OOOOOFFFF BOOOOOOODDDDDDIIIIIIIEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MUH MAAAASSSSSSSS GRRRRRRAAAAAAVVVVVVWEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! narrative to your hearts content.



In other news in the UK the government are going to struggle to get the vote through to put into law their retarded tier system. The "minister for vaccination", a fucking shitskin Muslim with literally no background in medicine AT ALL has been in the job for three days and said he wants an extension on the app to allow people to prove they have had the vaccine and that venues like stadia and pubs could refuse entry.


Fucking muslims, seriously.
 
Lol, do you think that hackers can access your phone remotely if you turn on Bluetooth to use your headphones?
It’s more about control of the networks. If the app relies on Bluetooth to function, the owners of that app can collect data and use it to track people.

Also, hacking happens the easiest through WiFi and Bluetooth. This is why some companies like COX encourage routers with strong security systems.
 
Stores just don't care if you have a mask or not, nor do people. Even those who have a 'mask required' sign by the door hardly enforce it if you enter without one. Only ones I see that enforce it are malls and big brand stores like Wal-Mart, though I guess it's a sort of requirement for the poor guys hanging by the door to give masks so he won't get fired.
It's also possible that these stores are going through the motions and doing the bare minimum just in case officials show up for an unannounced spot check or arrive in response to a complaint. If they're seen doing something, it will look more favorable to the powers that be than if they do nothing.

It wouldn't surprise me if other businesses across the country, especially small businesses, feel the same way and don't want to cause a commotion about mask wearing and other directives unless they're forced to do so.

"Washington Exposure Notifications (also known as WA Notify) is a new tool that works through smartphones, without sharing any personal information, to alert users if they may have been exposed to COVID-19. It is completely private, and doesn’t know or track who you are or where you go."
My state has a similar smartphone app available, but I have no plans to download it because I don't like to waste phone space with unnecessary apps. If enough people feel that way, these apps won't be nearly as effective as leaders hope unless they're sent/pushed as system updates that can't be skipped or rolled back.
 
It’s more about control of the networks. If the app relies on Bluetooth to function, the owners of that app can collect data and use it to track people.
The owners of the app can use it to collect data regardless. It's true that the operators of such apps could use them to infer location even without GPS by scanning for other bluetooth devices and comparing to something like the WiGLE database to infer locations, but a) that's a lot of work b) if you're a government you have access to more useful cell location data c) most of them are externally audited if not fully open sourced.
 
Ngl kiwis. I'm in a low place.
I was already pretty isolated and depressed before all this, but I at least went out to dinner a couple times a week or to craft stores.

Now I don't even have that. Big things like holidays are cancelled so the literal weeks if prep for Xmas is too. I've cleaned my house out of boredom and there's nothing really left to clean. I can't afford to get stuff for my hobbies like cosplay and even if I did... I'm so beat down I don't even want to anymore.
Like a poster a few posts up said... The only reason I haven't an heroed is bc I couldn't do that to my grandma.

I've looked for low cost/affordable mental health care in my area and either I'm retarded and haven't found anything online, or it's few and far between around here... Plus all the big covid warnings that take up half the page on every website just chizzles a little more if my sanity away.

I don't know what to believe anymore.

I just keep telling myself "don't do that to grandma. Don't make grandma go through that..." Over and over.


Thanks for listening to my ted talk.

I'm not sure where you live, but if you're in the US there's 211 where you can talk to people who can connect you to mental health professionals, also numbers to call where you can talk to people for free. It's not much, but it's something. Some therapists do online calls as therapy sessions. I've been using that and it's helped me immensely.

There may be international numbers for that as well, hopefully.
 
The Wuhan files Leaked documents reveal China's mishandling of the early stages of Covid-19

London — A group of frontline medical workers, likely exhausted, stand huddled together on a video-conference call as China's most powerful man raises his hand in greeting. It is February 10 in Beijing and President Xi Jinping, who for weeks has been absent from public view, is addressing hospital staff in the city of Wuhan as they battle to contain the spread of a still officially unnamed novel coronavirus.
From a secure room about 1,200 kilometers (745 miles) from the epicenter, Xi expressed his condolences to those who have died in the outbreak. He urged greater public communication, as around the world concerns mounted about the potential threat posed by the new disease.
That same day, Chinese authorities reported 2,478 new confirmed cases -- raising the total global number to more than 40,000, with fewer than 400 cases occurring outside of mainland China. Yet CNN can now reveal how official documents circulated internally show that this was only part of the picture.

In a report marked "internal document, please keep confidential," local health authorities in the province of Hubei, where the virus was first detected, list a total of 5,918 newly detected cases on February 10, more than double the official public number of confirmed cases, breaking down the total into a variety of subcategories. This larger figure was never fully revealed at that time, as China's accounting system seemed, in the tumult of the early weeks of the pandemic, to downplay the severity of the outbreak.
The previously undisclosed figure is among a string of revelations contained within 117 pages of leaked documents from the Hubei Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention, shared with and verified by CNN.
Taken together, the documents amount to the most significant leak from inside China since the beginning of the pandemic and provide the first clear window into what local authorities knew internally and when.

The Chinese government has steadfastly rejected accusations made by the United States and other Western governments that it deliberately concealed information relating to the virus, maintaining that it has been upfront since the beginning of the outbreak. However, though the documents provide no evidence of a deliberate attempt to obfuscate findings, they do reveal numerous inconsistencies in what authorities believed to be happening and what was revealed to the public.

The documents, which cover an incomplete period between October 2019 and April this year, reveal what appears to be an inflexible health care system constrained by top-down bureaucracy and rigid procedures that were ill-equipped to deal with the emerging crisis. At several critical moments in the early phase of the pandemic, the documents show evidence of clear missteps and point to a pattern of institutional failings.
One of the more striking data points concerns the slowness with which local Covid-19 patients were diagnosed. Even as authorities in Hubei presented their handling of the initial outbreak to the public as efficient and transparent, the documents show that local health officials were reliant on flawed testing and reporting mechanisms. A report in the documents from early March says the average time between the onset of symptoms to confirmed diagnosis was 23.3 days, which experts have told CNN would have significantly hampered steps to both monitor and combat the disease.
China has staunchly defended its handling of the outbreak. At a news conference on June 7, China's State Council released a White Paper saying the Chinese government had always published information related to the epidemic in a "timely, open and transparent fashion."
"While making an all-out effort to contain the virus, China has also acted with a keen sense of responsibility to humanity, its people, posterity, and the international community. It has provided information on Covid-19 in a thoroughly professional and efficient way. It has released authoritative and detailed information as early as possible on a regular basis, thus effectively responding to public concern and building public consensus," says the White Paper.
CNN has reached out to China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and National Health Commission, as well as Hubei's Health Commission, which oversees the provincial CDC, for comment on the findings disclosed in the documents, but received no response.
Health experts said the documents laid bare why what China knew in the early months mattered.

"It was clear they did make mistakes -- and not just mistakes that happen when you're dealing with a novel virus -- also bureaucratic and politically-motivated errors in how they handled it," said Yanzhong Huang, a senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations, who has written extensively on public health in China. "These had global consequences. You can never guarantee 100% transparency. It's not just about any intentional cover-up, you are also constrained with by technology and other issues with a novel virus. But even if they had been 100% transparent, that would not stop the Trump administration downplaying the seriousness of it. It would probably not have stopped this developing into a pandemic."

China lying back at the start of the pandemic? No way!
 
@s0mbra: Not sure how you work or what suits you, but I've found the Thrive Programme invaluable. It's something you pay a one off fee for but it gives you a load of material and resources you can work through to help tackle MH issues. It might not be your cup of tea, so I am sorry if this is not help, but I've found it invaluable. You can work through it at your own pace too, and personally, I've found it a huge help.


And commies? Lying? Imagine my shock. Fuck China, fuck the CCP and fuck the spineless, weak, snivelling, grovelling pieces of utter fucking shit who lack the requisite spine to call an end to this bullshit, However, given how hard some retards are still clinging to the narrative like yonder fucking sadsacks upthread and assorted others, no doubt it is politically expedient to keep the lies a-comin'.
 
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