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Noticed this girl in the thumbnail:
The most masculine person in the entire fucking room is ironically the person who was supposed to be a woman. Heh
There's that "vessel" talk again. Tell again how this isn't a cult?Someone needs to inform Jimmy's doctor about him mixing a dangerous amount of Copium with his progesterone:
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Jimmy's argument can best be described as "Not everyone looks the same!!!", "BIRTH DEFECTS SAY TRANS RIGHTS!!".
Youtube: we have to ban Belle Delphine!
OUCH MY BALLS AAAAAAAA
That seems to describe 99% of the troons I have encountered. Being trans is their whole identity. Troon gives them a ready made personality and identity so they don't have to figure out who they are.If you're a person raised in a family in which you don't get the nurturance that every person needs to form a healthy personality, you start to take in things from the outside that will give you a ready-made personality.
Rate me MATI, but it drives me nuts when they use the "gotcha" claims like "but some women were born without a uterus", "but some women are taller than 6ft", "but some women don't get their period anymore"... that may be true, but does not negate the fact you have a dick and balls. Like, are they trying to insinuate that THEY were a woman who wasn't born with a uterus? It's never been about one specific feature (height, menstruation, childbirth, boob size, voice, etc.) that makes someone female. It's the whole package and while some women may be missing one/two features, troons are missing the whole damn thing.Every time I see a tweet that tries to troonsplain how it's "basic biology," and "sex is a spectrum with countless traits and variations," I fail to understand why I should care. Normal people don't know enough about biology to definitively shut down troon ideology, but still recognize that chopping your dick off and demanding everyone call you a lady is not normal. And if you told the average person that they aren't really the sex they were assigned at birth because they have elevated hormones or whatever, they wouldn't take you seriously and would still think you're a freak.
I believe like there's no "genuine" trans, in the sense that there's "male soul" or "female soul" inside someone and that the body became mismatched from it, and this is apparent if you live in a country where the concept of gender transition is framed completely in a different way and start to compare it with western/developed nations definitions and see the holes in idea. We may get trannies that seem sane and not use trans identity as a copout. We may get people who find it easier for them to live as opposite gender but the concept of being trans can only exist within a culture. Being trans is a philosophical and bureaucratic identity that you can not even subscribe to it even if you look like one. In theory, you can get all HRT and surgery and dress in the way that is seen of different gender and say you're still your sex because you don't identify as opposite gender.I was reading something about an unrelated cow today and something a psychiatrist said really struck me as applying to troons.
That seems to describe 99% of the troons I have encountered. Being trans is their whole identity. Troon gives them a ready made personality and identity so they don't have to figure out who they are.
To me that is what separates out folks I think that are genuinely transgender and troons. I have a good friend who is trans. Other than him telling us "hey, I'm trans" the subject rarely comes up. To look at his social media, there are mentions of his job, cats, and hobbies and zero about his gender. I genuinely believe he is legitimately trans. (Plus he transitioned in 2002, way before transtrenders.)
What do you mean, "they didn't know?" Surely whatever culture it was, whether it's ancient China with Mulan or medieval France with Joan of Arc, could recognize a female of their culture from a male of their culture the same way we recognize males and females in our modern day cultures. Their culture might be different, but surely someone raised up to be a woman in medieval France would behave like a medieval French woman, even if she's dressed as a male soldier. Or do you mean that those medieval French soldiers didn't have as much experience with identifying crossdressing women as modern-day people would, because we have more access to materials that help us identify crossdressing women, like forums where people talk about it for 1700 pages?a few pages back I mentioned that crossdressing women in the past, passed as men in the way that they won't as easily in modern times because people didn't know how to discern one based on cultural gender cues.
I meant the latter, that medieval soldiers didn't have much experiences identifying crosdressing women as modern day people would. And if you transported that female soldier into the modern day time, people may readily see her as female. Remember that James Barry/Margaret Ann posed as a male doctor until her death and while people did noticed her high voice, it didn't click in most of her colleagues that she was actually a women. Gender roles in Victorian era was strict to that point.What do you mean, "they didn't know?" Surely whatever culture it was, whether it's ancient China with Mulan or medieval France with Joan of Arc, could recognize a female of their culture from a male of their culture the same way we recognize males and females in our modern day cultures. Their culture might be different, but surely someone raised up to be a woman in medieval France would behave like a medieval French woman, even if she's dressed as a male soldier. Or do you mean that those medieval French soldiers didn't have as much experience with identifying crossdressing women as modern-day people would, because we have more access to materials that help us identify crossdressing women, like forums where people talk about it for 1700 pages?
Yeah, I actually feel real sympathy for Jules. I used to occasionally watch his content years ago, way before the transition, when he was just a femmey gay guy doing makeup tutorials -- he seemed very sweet and personable, had a beautiful face, and produced quality videos for the time. I hadn't seen his content in like a decade and totally forgot about him, then one day I spotted a familiar face in my YT recommendations...and saw that Jules was now trans. Sadly, I think cultural expectations and homophobia probably informed his desire to transition, and he struck me as someone who could be easily led by TRA propaganda into seeing himself as having been "born in the wrong body." Several of his videos make it very clear that he regrets getting SRS and that it's been mostly painful and inconvenient. I hope Jules is happy despite that though, because nobody deserves to be duped into losing so much.He made a video about his problems after srs and heavily implied that he regrets it.
In a word? Yes.Like, are they trying to insinuate that THEY were a woman who wasn't born with a uterus?
The ‘FTM Drag Queen’ is a black girl into Lolita cosplay— how’s that for a rare Pokémon?Reddit dump:
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I have a way more accurate edit:
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"FTM Drag queen":
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FTMs- so insufferable that not even they can stand each other:
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It’s genotype, not karyotype and your genes are what code for and build your brain. Can I send this person a copy of “She has her Mother’s Laugh” just to make the biobutchering stop?In a word? Yes.
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Men like Jimmy claim that there’s been some kind of code failure with their DNA that caused them to develop atypically to “cis” women.
People in the real world recognize that this “atypical“ development comes from him being male while Jimmy insists this makes him some subset of female— you know, the kind with a dick and balls and the ability to father children.
It’s also why so many troons cling to intersex conditions as a means of legitimizing their transness. That their being trans is not a psychological disorder born of porn consumption, obsessive sexual paraphilias, repressed homosexuality, or the ‘tism but rather a genetic fuckup beyond their control that somehow entitles them to womanhood.
I’ve seen a lot of FTMs whine about being confused for butch lesbians. Although part of this is because they can’t tell the way masculine wome dress and the way straight guys dress is not the same.I believe like there's no "genuine" trans, in the sense that there's "male soul" or "female soul" inside someone and that the body became mismatched from it, and this is apparent if you live in a country where the concept of gender transition is framed completely in a different way and start to compare it with western/developed nations definitions and see the holes in idea. We may get trannies that seem sane and not use trans identity as a copout. We may get people who find it easier for them to live as opposite gender but the concept of being trans can only exist within a culture. Being trans is a philosophical and bureaucratic identity that you can not even subscribe to it even if you look like one. In theory, you can get all HRT and surgery and dress in the way that is seen of different gender and say you're still your sex because you don't identify as opposite gender.
If you define being trans on the basis of gender dysphoria. In my personal opinion, it is no different from other body issues like anorexia or wanting to cut your limbs off. But trans became an identity because gender is steeped deeper in human psych. It is a shorthand for sex, and so is an important part of human society because it signals for reproduction possibility in the way that other body issues doesn't. It is easy to confuses these signals when a large part of it is how you dress and behave - a few pages back I mentioned that crosdressing women in the past, passed as men in the way that they won't as easily in modern times because people didn't know how to discern one based on cultural gender cues.
But as more people transitioned, the concept is going to breakdown soon as it becomes easier to clock trannies due to exposure or people en masse realise there are more than superficial characteristic that make someone male or female. Not to mention the people who would go in for it for the sake of body modifications (some pages back talks about men who wants dick chopped off but still identify as men) but without the "identity" or detransitioners. Some superficial changes from hormones may not fool people anymore. So as the concept of gender change, the concept of being trans would also change
Words words words. Say ‘Stop doing this shit it’s weird’ and move it along.
Did a huge double-take at the last one, when the FTM addresses the room as 'fellas' at the end. The whole rant was so utterly female that seeing it directed at men was jarring. It's that kind of shit that trans people don't seem to see in their own behaviour, but it's loud and clear to everyone else.
Something something female socialisation, aka reality is transphobic.