Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

[iafiv]

Trump couldn't take Covid seriously because it meant admitting 'defeat' in the face of an invisible and microscopic enemy.From the moment he launched his campaign he projected an image of power which appealed to latent 'America first' types.Ultimately what got him elected was fear of terrorism/immigrant crime and their assumed enablers ie liberals in the big cities(I know he didn't actually say immigration as a whole is bad but his rethoric in many parts of the US appealed to those latent fears).Don't forget the speech with which he launched his campaign in which crime from abroad was the main issue.It wasn't jobs every politician promises jobs it was fear that got him elected and the assumption that he would face these fears.
Unfortunately you can't shoot a virus.Trump wrapped himself up in generic conservative talking points taken to an extreme.But the issues that scared people in 2016 didn't fit with Covid which was a new type of threat.Trump was worried that taking certain measures would go against his 'tough guy' image.In a way he was a victim of hiw own rethoric.It was an obvious contradiction 'how can America be great and then pretty much have to go into lockdown due to an unseen enemy'?Sure for a scientist the answer is obvious but for your average voter who lets face it is unlikely to know too much about science not so much. Trump realised that projecting weakness meant the risk of losing his supporters.And he didn't actually but he lost the independents who swing from one election to another depending on the issue of the day.
In 2016 the issue was the latent fear that the system is being taken over by 'them'(ie foreigners and their local enablers) while the common man is losing all those rights that they assumed were sacred.In 2020 the issue was Covid.Funny thing is the chinese won the 'trade war' and brought down Trump but not in the way anyone would have imagined.You gotta give them credit for that they did unintentionally think outside the box.
But Trump will leave a long term mark on politics. Impeachment is pretty much DOA from now on as a measure of control.3 times in US history a president was impeached and the process failed(Nixon resigned before an actual impeachment could happen).From now on impeachment is no longer a realistic option as a method of controlling POTUS.Nobody is gonna try it again because it doesn't work the system is as such that when/if it happens the party rallies around POTUS despite what happened.Party loyalty trumps criminal endeavours.

 

[The Sauce Boss]

Trump couldn't take Covid seriously because it meant admitting 'defeat' in the face of an invisible and microscopic enemy.From the moment he launched his campaign he projected an image of power which appealed to latent 'America first' types.Ultimately what got him elected was fear of terrorism/immigrant crime and their assumed enablers ie liberals in the big cities(I know he didn't actually say immigration as a whole is bad but his rethoric in many parts of the US appealed to those latent fears).Don't forget the speech with which he launched his campaign in which crime from abroad was the main issue.It wasn't jobs every politician promises jobs it was fear that got him elected and the assumption that he would face these fears.
Unfortunately you can't shoot a virus.Trump wrapped himself up in generic conservative talking points taken to an extreme.But the issues that scared people in 2016 didn't fit with Covid which was a new type of threat.Trump was worried that taking certain measures would go against his 'tough guy' image.In a way he was a victim of hiw own rethoric.It was an obvious contradiction 'how can America be great and then pretty much have to go into lockdown due to an unseen enemy'?Sure for a scientist the answer is obvious but for your average voter who lets face it is unlikely to know too much about science not so much. Trump realised that projecting weakness meant the risk of losing his supporters.And he didn't actually but he lost the independents who swing from one election to another depending on the issue of the day.
In 2016 the issue was the latent fear that the system is being taken over by 'them'(ie foreigners and their local enablers) while the common man is losing all those rights that they assumed were sacred.In 2020 the issue was Covid.Funny thing is the chinese won the 'trade war' and brought down Trump but not in the way anyone would have imagined.You gotta give them credit for that they did unintentionally think outside the box.
But Trump will leave a long term mark on politics. Impeachment is pretty much DOA from now on as a measure of control.3 times in US history a president was impeached and the process failed(Nixon resigned before an actual impeachment could happen).From now on impeachment is no longer a realistic option as a method of controlling POTUS.Nobody is gonna try it again because it doesn't work the system is as such that when/if it happens the party rallies around POTUS despite what happened.Party loyalty trumps criminal endeavours.

Welcome to fucking clown world.

Whether Trump's actions were impeachable or not, the fact that after doing such a cocked-up job of the whole thing, his party is still rabidly proclaiming his legitimacy EVEN AFTER HE HAS LOST THE ELECTION and some of them are even encouraging his delusional ravings is disappointing to me. The days of peaceful presidential transitions and civility in politics are over, especially once our generation gets out of their twenties and is able to run for office. Congress is rapidly becoming a microcosm of the retarded 'them vs me' mentality that's infecting American society, and I wager that it's only going ot get worse from here.

 

[iafiv]

Welcome to fucking clown world.

Whether Trump's actions were impeachable or not, the fact that after doing such a cocked-up job of the whole thing, his party is still rabidly proclaiming his legitimacy EVEN AFTER HE HAS LOST THE ELECTION and some of them are even encouraging his delusional ravings is disappointing to me. The days of peaceful presidential transitions and civility in politics are over, especially once our generation gets out of their twenties and is able to run for office. Congress is rapidly becoming a microcosm of the retarded 'them vs me' mentality that's infecting American society, and I wager that it's only going ot get worse from here.

It was never that civil there was always an element of hypocrisy to the whole 'congratulate your opponent on winning'.Everyone knew that they hated each other there was never an actual camaraderie.Of course Trump by not conceding nevermind offering a token 'congratulations' for winning to Biden is creating a new tradition.Like it or not but Trump supporters like the fact that he's not showing any desire to shake the hand of the one who defeated him.The real danger now is that millions of teens and kids have seen the grown-ups in the room prove incompetent in the wake of the Covid crisis.Which means that a charismatic voice can easily radicalise them.You don't need to radicalise too many.Just enough.Once Covid has passed and people are picking up the pieces I think there will be a resurgence of mass shootings.A lot of already unstable individuals have been pushed to the edge but they don't have enough available targets to make the news.Once they'll have.Technically crime has increased in 2020 but mass shootings in the sense people are used to have largely dissappeared.Once Covid is controlled all the nutjobs will take advantage.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Trump couldn't take Covid seriously because it meant admitting 'defeat' in the face of an invisible and microscopic enemy.From the moment he launched his campaign he projected an image of power which appealed to latent 'America first' types.Ultimately what got him elected was fear of terrorism/immigrant crime and their assumed enablers ie liberals in the big cities(I know he didn't actually say immigration as a whole is bad but his rethoric in many parts of the US appealed to those latent fears).Don't forget the speech with which he launched his campaign in which crime from abroad was the main issue.It wasn't jobs every politician promises jobs it was fear that got him elected and the assumption that he would face these fears.
Unfortunately you can't shoot a virus.Trump wrapped himself up in generic conservative talking points taken to an extreme.But the issues that scared people in 2016 didn't fit with Covid which was a new type of threat.Trump was worried that taking certain measures would go against his 'tough guy' image.In a way he was a victim of hiw own rethoric.It was an obvious contradiction 'how can America be great and then pretty much have to go into lockdown due to an unseen enemy'?Sure for a scientist the answer is obvious but for your average voter who lets face it is unlikely to know too much about science not so much. Trump realised that projecting weakness meant the risk of losing his supporters.And he didn't actually but he lost the independents who swing from one election to another depending on the issue of the day.
In 2016 the issue was the latent fear that the system is being taken over by 'them'(ie foreigners and their local enablers) while the common man is losing all those rights that they assumed were sacred.In 2020 the issue was Covid.Funny thing is the chinese won the 'trade war' and brought down Trump but not in the way anyone would have imagined.You gotta give them credit for that they did unintentionally think outside the box.
But Trump will leave a long term mark on politics. Impeachment is pretty much DOA from now on as a measure of control.3 times in US history a president was impeached and the process failed(Nixon resigned before an actual impeachment could happen).From now on impeachment is no longer a realistic option as a method of controlling POTUS.Nobody is gonna try it again because it doesn't work the system is as such that when/if it happens the party rallies around POTUS despite what happened.Party loyalty trumps criminal endeavours.

The only way impeachments will succeed if if the other party has dominant control of the senate at the time (so if someone gets really wiped out in the midterms).

Also I'd recommend putting spaces between your sentences.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

TRANSPORTING MAIL BETWEEN SORTING FACILITIES IS VOTER FRAUD

 

[AnOminous]

In my opinion, if he had handled covid better, he'd have won pretty easily. However, he couldn't have handled it worse if he tried, so...

If he hadn't continually expressed open disgust and contempt for the majority of Americans, i.e. the people who didn't worship him like a god, he'd have done better. Every single other American President has at least pretended to care about the entire country, instead of just his own mindless cocksuckers.

The only way impeachments will succeed if if the other party has dominant control of the senate at the time (so if someone gets really wiped out in the midterms).

Or if your own party loses faith in you entirely. This is sort of what happened with Nixon. The near impossibility of impeachment was intentional, though. The Framers realized that if doing this were easy, it would be done all the time. It was an eject button for the worst possible scenario. This should have discouraged purely political impeachments, but so far, every single impeachment has been purely political (Johnson and Clinton and Trump). None of those impeachments were remotely worthy of the effort.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

The slippery slope we see today kicked off after the 1994 midterms. Guys like Newt Gingrich had no real intentions on making real changes and preferred political theater instead. This went out of control when they tried to impeach Clinton. Then you got the 2000 election with the horror show known as the PATRIOT Act. After the end of the Cold War, Pax Americana was frittered away on outsourcing, ripping up the constitution, and endless wars in the Middle East. BDS and ODS just became regular things and each election cycle saw the intensity get turned up because it’s easy to whip up the base to vote against the other guy than present real solutions.

I suspect not bothering to concede and filing impeachment charges are going to be part and parcel moving forward. Hillary never formally conceded but Trump is actively fighting it. If a Republican ever gets elected as president again, I will expect the same behavior.

 

[CheezzyMach]

If Trump had dropped the race baiting shit and just said “I’m a real estate guy, I know real estate, and this country’s falling apart. I promise to rebuild this country’s infrastructure to make America great again.” I would have seriously considered voting for him in 2016.

I feel the same about the DNC and Progressives if AOC and Bernie dropped the woke pandering and strictly talked about their policy plans I'd be more willing to hear them out.

I have faint hope that I'm not the only Leftist that feels this way since Bill Maher shat on the DNC for doing it this year, and a user here has said young progressives are tired of wokebaiting too.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I feel the same about the DNC and Progressives if AOC and Bernie dropped the woke pandering and strictly talked about their policy plans I'd be more willing to hear them out.

I have faint hope that I'm not the only Leftist that feels this way since Bill Maher shat on the DNC for doing it this year, and a user here has said young progressives are tired of wokebaiting too.

I wonder how things are going to work out now that the president's going to be a straight white Democratic male.

 

[AnOminous]

I wonder how things are going to work out now that the president's going to be a straight white Democratic male.

Bitch if you're going to criticize White Jesus you ain't black any more.

 

[CheezzyMach]

I wonder how things are going to work out now that the president's going to be a straight white Democratic male.

The media's already sucking his dick over the all woman team thing and his cabinet's * Which is just Obama's * being called the "Avengers" that will save us from the chaos of the last 4 years.

I think we're back to the Obama years on the media front.

Taco has said they think the young Dems/Progressives are about to try a coup though because they are tired of being fed the DNC's bread crumbs and Blue Dog Dems got slaughtered this year.

(Don't know how to tag users)

 

[AnOminous]

Wtf is going on what is this blinding white?

 

[proteus4994]

Wtf is going on what is this blinding white?

I know you’re talking about the glitch in the forums, but in the context of this thread, this comment is pretty great.

 

[iafiv]

If he hadn't continually expressed open disgust and contempt for the majority of Americans, i.e. the people who didn't worship him like a god, he'd have done better. Every single other American President has at least pretended to care about the entire country, instead of just his own mindless cocksuckers.

Or if your own party loses faith in you entirely. This is sort of what happened with Nixon. The near impossibility of impeachment was intentional, though. The Framers realized that if doing this were easy, it would be done all the time. It was an eject button for the worst possible scenario. This should have discouraged purely political impeachments, but so far, every single impeachment has been purely political (Johnson and Clinton and Trump). None of those impeachments were remotely worthy of the effort.

Unfortunately by making impeachment very difficult the Framers unintentionally laid the basis for a gradually stronger presidency.Add the 3 failed impeachments and the concept is pretty much dead now.I think they were a bit too cynical about politics since impeachment even if easy on paper would only be attempted if the president was unpopular to begin with.That and the fact that impeachment just for kicks would lead to counterimpeachment when the other side takes over.So politicians have an incentive to not attempt this even if it were easy in theory.Then again no one had a crystal ball in 1790 to predict the how and why 2 centuries later.
The fact remains that this method of control is pretty much dead now.That's why neither reps nor dems should have attempted it in 98 and this year.They undermined it and now future presidents know that anything short of a Congress dominated by the opposition and them losing almost all popular support means they can do whatever they want.And that is far scarier than anything.

 

[The Sauce Boss]

I feel the same about the DNC and Progressives if AOC and Bernie dropped the woke pandering and strictly talked about their policy plans I'd be more willing to hear them out.

I have faint hope that I'm not the only Leftist that feels this way since Bill Maher shat on the DNC for doing it this year, and a user here has said young progressives are tired of wokebaiting too.

A lot of young progressives these days are really, REALLY hard for praxis. The issue is that very few progressives on capitol Hill have shown any real plans of action, or aye, even the desire to act. There's a reason AOC and her ilk are slowly starting to lose steam. If you can't swing the bat, don't walk up to the plate.

 

[CheezzyMach]

A lot of young progressives these days are really, REALLY hard for praxis. The issue is that very few progressives on capitol Hill have shown any real plans of action, or aye, even the desire to act. There's a reason AOC and her ilk are slowly starting to lose steam. If you can't swing the bat, don't walk up to the plate.

I know I'm exposing my internet boomerism but what's Praxis mean in this context?

 

[The Sauce Boss]

I know I'm exposing my internet boomerism but what's Praxis mean in this context?

It's a commie/ socialist term meaning practical application of theory.

 

[CheezzyMach]

It's a commie/ socialist term meaning practical application of theory.

So basically they want less talk more action?

 

[The Sauce Boss]

So basically they want less talk more action?

Yep. Less "we're totally gonna tax the rich and stop climate change", more "where is your tax plan and where are detailed statistics on who and what are causing the most emissions where and how do you plan to enforce these regulations without wrecking the economy?"

 

[AnOminous]

Unfortunately by making impeachment very difficult the Framers unintentionally laid the basis for a gradually stronger presidency.

As much as I hate to say this, though, this ultimately worked well. Suppose the country is actually attacked? Do you want a weak executive in that situation? I think the Constitution has dealt amazingly well, under the circumstances, with utter idiots in the office. Europeans like to talk shit about America but they actually don't know shit. We have had a continuous and successful democracy under a written Constitution since 1789. We are literally, other than a few outliers, the longest lasting successful government in the history of the world. The Roman Empire doesn't have shit on us.