Orbiter 🏳️‍🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.

Nick Fuentes throwing shade at Baked, Ethan Ralph and the ip2 streamers:
https://streamable.com/ynsdfa

Full Fuentes rant on IRL streamers/Disavowal:
https://streamable.com/77gkuu
"you know whats not optical - I dont think i need to tell you. But I saw some un-optical behavior yesterday"

"A lot of selfie sticks....and...I'm not saying I'm the only one that can stream, but...."

Hahahahah why, WHY, why is it always these MANLETS...just damn man, fucking get over it, you're sub 6 feet whatever nobody really cares lol.

But for real though, TLDR - if you're not Nick, put that phone down, sit down, listen, send the money and let Baby Mexico do his thizzang! Fuentes First!

I think we will see alot from Nick in the upcoming months, and whether that's massive success as he finds a new demographic of followers, or a catastrophic failure where he has to reconcile his past and associations with the boomers, remains uncertain.

Good overall post - but big disagree with this part. Baby Mex is clearly going for the basic e-celeb meme and trying to centralize the entire right-wing patriot america consrevative trad or whatever you call/categorize it movement, in his over-inflated image (because he's a delusional manlet with a lot of chips on his extremely narrow shoulders) there's not much to it than that. He shits on his political neighbors if they dare step out of line of muh optix. When the going was easy, he was shitting on Spencer or Proud Boys, those were easy targets right, but now he has to deal with all those Bakeds and Ethans types that went along with him on the Groyper Express.

I disagree that he's going for the mainstream, unless Milo and Bannon pulled some incredibly big tricks to prop him up that high, but given the amount of power ADL has over America now, I don't see how someone with that many hours of video catalog saying the most pol-tier shit could be boosted so high up - despite the fact that Spicky will soon (prediction - calling it!) make series of pathetic apologies about his old streams and how unaware he was with some of his inappropriate jokes etc etc., it's coming, once you brush shoulders with Alex Jones that's the par for the course.

And look, look, I've been saying it for years, insofar that if you listen to my old shows, look, I've been saying it for years, the whole obsession with the Israel question is not America First, what we must focus on is America, America First.
 
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Good overall post - but big disagree with this part. Baby Mex is clearly going for the basic e-celeb meme and trying to centralize the entire right-wing patriot america consrevative trad or whatever you call/categorize it movement, in his over-inflated image (because he's a delusional manlet with a lot of chips on his extremely narrow shoulders) there's not much to it than that. He shits on his political neighbors if they dare step out of line of muh optix. When the going was easy, he was shitting on Spencer or Proud Boys, those were easy targets right, but now he has to deal with all those Bakeds and Ethans types that went along with him on the Groyper Express.

I disagree that he's going for the mainstream, unless Milo and Bannon pulled some incredibly big tricks to prop him up that high, but given the amount of power ADL has over America now, I don't see how someone with that many hours of video catalog saying the most pol-tier shit could be boosted so high up - despite the fact that Spicky will soon (prediction - calling it!) make series of pathetic apologies about his old streams and how unaware he was with some of his inappropriate jokes etc etc., it's coming, once you brush shoulders with Alex Jones that's the par for the course.

And look, look, I've been saying it for years, insofar that if you listen to my old shows, look, I've been saying it for years, the whole obsession with the Israel question is not America First, what we must focus on is America, America First.
Yeah, currently Nick has no relevance to the mainstream, noone outside of fringe online spaces has ever heard of him. Good point with the ADL thing too - they and the SPLC run their own donation grifts that depend on casting someone like Nick in the worst light possible. Whether he was joking or not, they don't care when it comes to using him as an easy way to shake the donations out of their own base with alarmist reactions, especially as that base gets older and older.
 
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Good overall post - but big disagree with this part. Baby Mex is clearly going for the basic e-celeb meme and trying to centralize the entire right-wing patriot america consrevative trad or whatever you call/categorize it movement, in his over-inflated image (because he's a delusional manlet with a lot of chips on his extremely narrow shoulders) there's not much to it than that. He shits on his political neighbors if they dare step out of line of muh optix. When the going was easy, he was shitting on Spencer or Proud Boys, those were easy targets right, but now he has to deal with all those Bakeds and Ethans types that went along with him on the Groyper Express.

I disagree that he's going for the mainstream, unless Milo and Bannon pulled some incredibly big tricks to prop him up that high, but given the amount of power ADL has over America now, I don't see how someone with that many hours of video catalog saying the most pol-tier shit could be boosted so high up - despite the fact that Spicky will soon (prediction - calling it!) make series of pathetic apologies about his old streams and how unaware he was with some of his inappropriate jokes etc etc., it's coming, once you brush shoulders with Alex Jones that's the par for the course.

And look, look, I've been saying it for years, insofar that if you listen to my old shows, look, I've been saying it for years, the whole obsession with the Israel question is not America First, what we must focus on is America, America First.
perhaps mainstream isn't the best phrasing, as its a bit higher, but what I mainly mean is that hes trying to jump up a few rungs on the social ladder. He's trying to broaden his base at the stop the steal rallies, and he's reached a point where he sees a potential audience that won't put up with Baked, Ralph, etc. He's going after other cometition during these speeches to try and siphon parts of their audience, just like how he used to groyper wars as a way to siphon away parts of the Turning Point audience.
 
He won't win this battle though. Disavowing Kami was sort of easy, given how fucking out of line and degenerate Kami is - but Ethan and Baked will be a different hurdle. Ethan especially, because manlets might have gripes and all, but when you piss off those fatties...good luck.

This lame streamer disavow shit is definitely coming from Nick's handlers, make no mistake about it. This is Alex Jones and/or Milo saying to him; we can't $ave the vot€ good enough if you keep these lunatics behind you. Get rid of them, Nick!

I'm glad this is happening though, Nick is one of the most calculated, disgusting grifters of the Trump era. His fans and Baked fans intersect completely, both of them built their grift on pol incel energy but at least Baked stayed true to being a weasel, while lil ole Nick tried to play both sides of the "right" and now wants to piggyback from it, and not only that, he wants to throw all of them under the bus along the way. Dumb little spic failed to realize that no political option will help this situation, only chaos, so he failed in the first place and proven how dumb he is when he went to battle with Charlie Kirk. That was the time when he was supposed to switch, so say "You know what Kirk, you're right" and just kosher miga all day long who cares.

He unironically thinks he'll grab part of Kirk's (or Shapiro's lmao) audience if he just cleans up his image and troubling friendos. Hahahah....turns out, he's nothing but a spic, after all.
 

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The problem is Nick started the groyper thing saying they were the anti-degeneracy, telling the truth about what's actually going on, but still using memes version of Charlie Kirk. That's why all the actual tradcaths - not the tradcath groyper larpers - backed him. Then the stuff came out about Kami and that he was still associating with Baked and things like that, and the non larping tradcaths turned on him. People who actually wanted him to succeed and weren't just cult members, told him these people were a liability, but he didn't want to listen. He liked them, so it was ok when he associated with degenerates, it didn't matter, not seeing how this is really no different than Charlie Kirk and Rob Smith or Lady Maga.

Now that he sees another opening to gain relevance (possibly with the help of Milo and/or feds) and the irl streamers like Baked or people like Ralph are a liability, because yes, they are terrible optics for anyone trying to be mainstream. But even with disavowals, are they too entrenched? Are you going to tell one of your best friends Baked to stay away? Is he going to tell Ralph to keep his name out of his mouth when the groypers make up some of the DLive audience and he needs all the clout he can get? I think it might be too late. If he gets even close to the mainstream, the press has a truckload of bad things to say about him and people will bring up Kami and Baked.
 
Yeah it's too late but I sort of understand his desperation, where else could he go if this Trump grift train stops or crashes? He has to maximize this Trump cult grift for whatever and how long its worth and possible, because he's on every ADL list and chances of him working a normal job and leading normal life are pretty iffy.

His only option is to keep high IQ flexing on the internet, he is so good at it - he goes on twitter and whatever other news site, marks down what happened today, then he goes live and regurgitates that info with his subjective opinion on top, and of course all of it wrapped up with remarks on how Trump is still a based chad and how Spencer is big gay. After that high IQ session for his distinguished audience, it's time to read the superchats for 2 hours, truly is a talented orator.

Milo the anal bandit, Kami the epic catboy, Wohl the based affiliate of Ghislane Maxwell and Roger Stone, Ali Akbar the convict, Baked the 40 year old zoomer and Michelle "married to ukranian holocaust survivor" Malkin - optics king America First, dabbin on dem wignats.
 
His recent activism is the start of a pivot in my opinion, even if its only a small one. He's going for the big leagues by trying to win over large swaths of people who attended in person, and push them towards his side. If you listen to any of his speeches he spends a good amount of time going after opposition such as Charlie Kirk and various congressmen. These people are his competitors and by weakening the opinion of a solid chunk of the conservative base I think he's making a power play. He's either going to try and go 3rd party with some sort of America First party, or attempt to form a coalition of republican's in line with his goals.
It never ceases to amaze me how someone with an IQ above jogger sea level could begin to take this seriously for even one second. It speaks volumes about the levels of collective delusion the groypers have built up.

Meanwhile, this is what has been and will keep being the immediate demonstrable reality of the situation:
Fuentes figured out IP2 is bad optics :story: 20/20 hindsight my guy.
It wouldn't have taken a particularly large brain or interdimensional 4d chess skills to have seen the shitstorm this would bring about. Definitely no need for 20/20 since even a few long time groypers turned against Nick over it.

The absolute caliber of the savior of the white race, who is going to outsmart the GOP zog machinations with optics and irony, is put on display more or less every day for the world to see.

On a more serious note, this speaks to the problem amnats are having where they are running out of people to bring over to their side. They've won over as many polacks and alt-liters as they're ever going to get. Hell, they've even dug so low as to bring well established lolcows like Matt Forney into the fold, who is now big with the irony bros. Hilarious when you consider how years ago Anglin would write blog posts breaking his balls. Or the literal borderline rapist Roosh who is now another one of the most pious trad christians around.

As for how many Qtards Fuentes is going to charm into his kekistani 2.0 big tent, it will directly correlate to how much he'll get away blessing Israel and how good he can keep the cookie monster under wraps from them. If there's one thing that's absolutely certain, it is that not even an army of groypers would ever be able to redpill one single boomer on that front. Also the amnats are coping hard right now that with all the chaos going on and the Jones endorsement, his opponents have somehow magically lost all power. In reality, there's more material then ever to pick from, and the media only have to wait for the opportune moment, when the next hitpiece will tear up any gains he might've made with normies.

But even going with the best case scenario where he dilutes his message so much that he manages to convert part of the boomerwaffen to his side, getting anywhere close to taking over the GOP is still quite the reach, to put it very nicely.

Now that he sees another opening to gain relevance (possibly with the help of Milo and/or feds) and the irl streamers like Baked or people like Ralph are a liability, because yes, they are terrible optics for anyone trying to be mainstream. But even with disavowals, are they too entrenched? Are you going to tell one of your best friends Baked to stay away? Is he going to tell Ralph to keep his name out of his mouth when the groypers make up some of the DLive audience and he needs all the clout he can get? I think it might be too late. If he gets even close to the mainstream, the press has a truckload of bad things to say about him and people will bring up Kami and Baked.
We already have tradcath Baked Alaska slapping a drunk twerking coalburner's ass on stream, as recently as last month. Fuentes will not disavow Baked period. This is the guy who leaves a wreak behind every movement he gets even tangentially involved with. The levels of drama that he would be capable of stirring up if he felt truly slighted by his best friend would make internet history for all eternity. Again, this is Beaked Alaska we're talking about, the biggest optics respecting, Christ fearing Trump supporter there is and whose time has now come, 5th? year running. He is capable of single handedly crashing AF with no survivors, both intentionally and unintentionally.
 
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He unironically thinks he'll grab part of Kirk's (or Shapiro's lmao) audience if he just cleans up his image and troubling friendos. Hahahah....turns out, he's nothing but a spic, after all.
Imagine a Shapiro/Fuentes confrontation like we got with Anita Sarkeesian and Sargon. What would Shapiro's version of Garbage Human be? Besides the white n-word.
 
Imagine a Shapiro/Fuentes confrontation like we got with Anita Sarkeesian and Sargon. What would Shapiro's version of Garbage Human be? Besides the white n-word.
Shapiro did an entire speech on Fuentes where he said all the horrible things about him but never mentioned him by name. And then of course there was that confrontation on the sidewalk where Shapiro had his kids with him and it made Fuentes look like a psycho for trying to confront a guy who was just out walking with his kids.
 
Shapiro did an entire speech on Fuentes where he said all the horrible things about him but never mentioned him by name. And then of course there was that confrontation on the sidewalk where Shapiro had his kids with him and it made Fuentes look like a psycho for trying to confront a guy who was just out walking with his kids.
True, I meant a more direct disavowal although I guess not spreading Nick's name works too I guess.
 
True, I meant a more direct disavowal although I guess not spreading Nick's name works too I guess.
I think Shapiro was thinking, 'I'll warn you about this horrible guy, you know and I know who it is, but I'm not going to give him fame by saying his name,' For the people paying attention to the groypers, the message was clear. I just feel bad for all the people in the audience for that speech who had no idea what was going on and just paid to hear Shapiro 'own the lib'.
 
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I think Shapiro was thinking, 'I'll warn you about this horrible guy, you know and I know who it is, but I'm not going to give him fame by saying his name,' For the people paying attention to the groypers, the message was clear. I just feel bad for all the people in the audience for that speech who had no idea what was going on and just paid to hear Shapiro 'own the lib'.
Lol why would you feel bad for people who paid money to attend a Shapiro speech?
 
Lol why would you feel bad for people who paid money to attend a Shapiro speech?
Firstly, because they paid to see a Shapiro speech. Secondly, because the speech was supposed to be about something else completely and he changed the topic last minute because he was pissed that day at Nick because of the cookie joke. Personally wouldn't have been there anyway, but has to suck to pay for something and then just hear the speaker rail against this person he refuses to name that you have no idea about.
 
Ethan and Baked will be a different hurdle. Ethan especially

Called it! lmao get a load of this epic exchage...and to all the lurking epic based groypers here - how many times did the optics king of the south, mr. Gunt Ralph, interacted with Fuentastico before? Where the hell did this bromance come from, and given how pedantic and strict about optics Nick is, what exactly did Gunt do that is considered so essential for the America First cause?

lol "love the coverage" hahaha ffs what a clown
 

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Imagine a Shapiro/Fuentes confrontation like we got with Anita Sarkeesian and Sargon. What would Shapiro's version of Garbage Human be? Besides the white n-word.

That already kinda happened when Nick caught Shapiro in the street and got ghosted by him. There'll be no real confrontation.
 
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