Xev Bellringer and the worlds addiction to more and more extreme Porn - "Xev Bellringer", a case study in degeneracy in progress

[Seventh Star]

I have a counter-argument to that one

I think the more socially conservative and repressed a society is, the more degenerate their porn is and the more rampant the fetishism is within it.

Victorian Britain, 1950's America, and modern-day Japan are all prime examples of this phenomenon.

The Victorians were infamously sexual prudes but print pornography in the form of penny dreadful books and pornographic postcards and drawings were fucked up even by today's standards and often had themes of Satanism, blasphemy and sacrilege, rape, and sadism.

1950's America has this idyllic squeaky clean reputation but there was a thriving and massive black market of pornographic comic books and 8mm stag films. The creator of Wonder Woman wrote extreme BDSM and guro horror comics back in the 1950's, the infamous "Nights of Horror" being one of the tamer and more well-known examples

Japan is extremely sexually repressed in real life to the point that it is normal for both men and women to not lose their virginity until they're in their early-to-mid twenties. Which is why prostitution and fucked up pornography has become so rampant there since the 80's

I don't think that's societies being fucked up because of conservatism, though. It's more that extreme fetishes and sick fucks have always existed (cough cough Marquis de Sade), and still do. I mean hell, there's a lot of lolcows that can attest to that.

And I was talking about degeneration growing over time in an individual level. However, I do think that things have been ramped up over the years, enough so that AGP's are not an underground thing anymore for example.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I don't think that's societies being fucked up because of conservatism, though. It's more that extreme fetishes and sick fucks have always existed (cough cough Marquis de Sade), and still do. I mean hell, there's a lot of lolcows that can attest to that.

And I was talking about degeneration growing over time in an individual level. However, I do think that things have been ramped up over the years, enough so that AGP's are not an underground thing anymore for example.

My theory was that in extremely morally conservative societies, the porn becomes more degenerate and extreme since the repression is so bad that there's not much of a "release valve", so stuff like pornography, prostitution, and fetishism shoot through the roof and you have the additional complication of a potential "black market effect" or an outburst of degeneracy right after the initial barriers are taken down because so much pressure has been built up.

The repressive conservatism of the 1950's and early 1960's led to the Sexual Revolution and the rampant sexual hedonism of the 1970's in the United States, the Victorian era was followed by the notoriously libertine Edwardian era and the 1920's.

The Weimar Republic often gets depicted as an immoral and overly permissive society because of the levels of decadent sexuality in Berlin and other major cities but porn, prostitution, and even homosexuality were all still illegal under the Weimar government, but there was a rampant black market and people turned to vices as a form of comfort after the horrors of World War I and the economic hardships that followed

 

[Seventh Star]

The Weimar Republic often gets depicted as an immoral and overly permissive society because of the levels of decadent sexuality in Berlin and other major cities but porn, prostitution, and even homosexuality were all still illegal under the Weimar government, but there was a rampant black market and people turned to vices as a form of comfort after the horrors of World War I and the economic hardships that followed

I mean, isn't that characteristic of today's society? It's not illegal in some places but it's still a big thing now. From what I read, what happened in the 70s was less from a "conservative" (by our apprehension) society and more a result of students movements, which sought idealistic ways to fix society in the West, based on individualism and self gratification.
In my mind, these things have and always will exist, it's just that they weren't visible before which to some extent made them smaller by virtue of there being no information or acceptance for them.​

 

[NoSpiceLife]

Addiction and the brain: The dopamine pathway is helping researchers find their way through the addiction maze

Our flourishing knowledge of the brain is in large part the product of research on addiction. Identifying what happens in the brain when a drug is inhaled, inje

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That was a good read...and remember boys and girls, don't assume everyone who 'uses drugs' does so because they crave that dopamine (that lack of, being only a small part of their issue), sometimes it's simply because they want to be able to function like a normal human being.

Something else, if you wander around the troon wives groups, you'll find a similar pattern in the way that AGPs 'troon out'. It includes the abundance of porn, that gradually gets more extreme, which leads to coercing their wives, into letting them do it to them 'for reals', if you don't you're a TERF.

 

[Str8Bustah]

I have a counter-argument to that one

I think the more socially conservative and repressed a society is, the more degenerate their porn is and the more rampant the fetishism is within it.

Victorian Britain, 1950's America, and modern-day Japan are all prime examples of this phenomenon.

The Victorians were infamously sexual prudes but print pornography in the form of penny dreadful books and pornographic postcards and drawings were fucked up even by today's standards and often had themes of Satanism, blasphemy and sacrilege, rape, and sadism.

1950's America has this idyllic squeaky clean reputation but there was a thriving and massive black market of pornographic comic books and 8mm stag films. The creator of Wonder Woman wrote extreme BDSM and guro horror comics back in the 1950's, the infamous "Nights of Horror" being one of the tamer and more well-known examples

Japan is extremely sexually repressed in real life to the point that it is normal for both men and women to not lose their virginity until they're in their early-to-mid twenties. Which is why prostitution and fucked up pornography has become so rampant there since the 80's

you're off your fucking rockers if you think that modern-day japan is any worse than the United States in terms of how degenerate their porn is. I dare you to go on e621 or sadpanda, pull up the western artist tag and tell me with a straight face that it's more vanilla than what the japs are producing.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I mean, isn't that characteristic of today's society? It's not illegal in some places but it's still a big thing now. From what I read, what happened in the 70s was less from a "conservative" (by our apprehension) society and more a result of students movements, which sought idealistic ways to fix society in the West, based on individualism and self gratification.
In my mind, these things have and always will exist, it's just that they weren't visible before which to some extent made them smaller by virtue of there being no information or acceptance for them.​

There's a major difference though between our society and Weimar Germany and it's the fact porn and sex work were still highly illegal in the Weimar Republic and if you did get caught, you'd go to prison.

In the 70's, it wasn't student movements that were driving the Sexual Revolution, but rather they latched onto a wider pushback of the repression of the 1950's and the first half of the 1960's.