I'm not a fan of DSP. I found DSP through youtube videos and I liked the thats 100% a lie channel.
WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game
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I'm not a fan of DSP. I found DSP through youtube videos and I liked the thats 100% a lie channel.
Look, we can all drag this topic out for pages and pages. I think that's pretty useless, especially considering that there are dozens of pages with posts ITT you can read.
The bottom line is that if you believe that the account is not Phil's, you have to believe that:
Phil, a guy with a history of splurging on gacha games and who loves WWE, and who mentioned playing this game, is not the owner of the account whose nickname was his Twitter handler.
Phil, even though he's not the owner of the account, never tried too hard to disprove the account is his. Even though this rumor could negatively affect his finances, since fans could decide to not donate money to him anymore.
There is someone willing to spend dozens of thousands of dollars on something completely worthless in order to be a mild nuisance to Phil's life.
And just a reminder: Phil is a man who declared bankruptcy while having more than 100k credit card debt, and nothing to show for it.
So yeah, believe whatever you want. But having said what I said above, I don't believe you can in good faith say that both possibilities are equally likely.
I agree it's not worth extending this much longer, it was just an idea on my part. But to respond to you:
all of those things u said are plausible. Phil is not the only person in the universe to like WWE. And TheyCallMeDSP is not extremely unique. If my initials are DSP TheyCallMeDSP is not so random or out of the realm of possibility for me to call myself TheyCallMeDSP on an online account. Like someone else said earlier in this thread, If I make an account here and call myself realDonaldTrump, and I talk like Trump does in his tweets, post on here only when Trump isn't tweeting, and Trump never goes publicly and proves that I'm not him, that doesn't mean I'm him.
The argument that he hasn't disproved is not convincing to me. It's like me saying "DZoomer, prove to me you don't spend thousands of dollars on WWE Champions". You couldn't particular disprove it because if in reality you never played it, there's nothing to show on your phone. Then I can say "show me your credit card statements", and even if you showed me that (which you shouldn't have to), then I can just claim you're hiding a credit card from me. Same with phil, he can't really disprove it because there's nothing really to show. The absence of proof doesn't mean guilt.
Yes I do believe there is someone willing to make microtransactions to troll phil. That's how microtransactions work. You don't charge $1000 at one time but you probably charge it over a long period of time. And given the fact there are trolls who go through bankruptcy documents, thousands of hours of video, tweets, screenshots, file false DMCA claims, correlate schedules with things Phil said, I would not find it surprising that someone also decided to simply create an account on an app, and on a discord account, and pretend to be phil.
You're saying phil had nothing to show for it but debt isn't some magic number that's pulled out of thin air. The debt was created by what he spent on. Food, rent, utilities, video games, entertainment, taxes (especially taxes), APR on credit card debt, vehicle payments, insurance, all add up. Also, I'm not super familiar with dsp lore, but didnt he fund the business of his ex gf?
Anyway, it was just a thought. Personally I am not convinced but its not my place to say either way.
Generic_Detractor2021
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Damnit man! I just came to check and see how Phil did in the most recent event, and if someone already had an estimate on what he may have spent. And now there's like 5 pages of long posts to go through. I'm pretty sure I can find this info on twitter, I just dont know who "the guy" is to have this info. Any help there would be appreciated.
Also, this is OIC IMO. He mysteriously disappears from DSP's chat, and he needs somewhere to go. He may be cheering/tipping/subbing under an alt now, but the long paragraphs, deniability, and knowledge of DSP make it seem that way to me. Just my opinion of course.
Also, this is OIC IMO. He mysteriously disappears from DSP's chat, and he needs somewhere to go. He may be cheering/tipping/subbing under an alt now, but the long paragraphs, deniability, and knowledge of DSP make it seem that way to me. Just my opinion of course.
You're being intentionally obtuse. And FYI, being overly skeptical doesn't make you smart.
But to wrap this up on my part: I'm not saying that you have to believe those aforementioned points separately. You have to believe it all, simultaneously, and THAT is why it is more likely that it is Phil than not.
We cannot ever be 100% sure it really is Phil. Just like I can't be sure that Bin Laden was really killed by the US government, or that the Moon landing did happen. But if you're smart, you can see what's more likely, and you believe in it, or at least recognize that it is the more likely possibility.
Really dude? Yeah, and assuming someone who is in massive debt spent literally 100k on a mobile game because the 2 users share the same username is a very high iq move.
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Or it's that other retard, Theycallmetevin, that appeared a few months ago and did the same thing. Another thing, almost everyone believes it's Phil. His mods, his viewers and his 'detractors'. So it doesn't really matter if you're a fan of Phil or not. The only people in his chat who don't believe it are the literal imbeciles, like Derich or Kingmichael.
Can you fuck off already?
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Mate, you're shitposting at this point. Take the galaxy brain nonsense elsewhere.
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Imagine fucking waltzing into this thread that's 300 pages long and come out at the end thinking the only thing that ties Phil to his WWE Champions account is "two users share the same username". By saying that you're admitting you're willingly ignoring the other evidence to suit your biases. Also, look at the stupid fucking thing you said: "...assuming someone who is in massive debt spent literally 100k on a mobile game..." you fucking idiot, if he wasn't spending the money on the game, he wouldn't be in massive debt! You're pointing to a dude with terrible fucking spending habits and saying "he couldn't possibly have wasted his money on this!"
You're dumb as all hell, dude. Go watch DSP's stream. It's right up your alley.
"But if he's so in debt, where did he get the money to spend on gambling?" Fucking jesus dude.
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Cyber Bowling
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This is a fair point. The issue is, that isn't Phil's situation. Phil himself has said he played the game in the past. He's also complained about how predatory these types of games are, and cited that as a supposed reason why he stopped. He's also well familiar with the terms and everything. Now, let's be incredibly generous and, as you mentioned in an older post, assumed Phil was being hyperbolic and only played a few times. And hey, I'll even add, Phil being hyperbolic isn't out of character.
But your reasoning is where it falls apart. Phil could pretty easily disprove it by logging into his old account. He couldn't just create a new one because it'd be pretty easy to tell if someone had whatever the generic new player set of characters are. And unless I'm mistaken, there's also some way to search a username to look up their history, so a simple search would tell if Phil made the account the night before just to disprove it. Realistically, if we're giving him the biggest benefit of the doubt, he could redownload the app, login to his old account, and use that as proof that he did indeed play the game under a different user name, and there would be enough information on the profile to show it wasn't just a freshly created account.
Phil has tried to use the excuse that we'd somehow dox him or harm his family or whatever, so he can't show his phone. But he's since shown his phone for other reasons, I believe during one of his "I just got banned" streams. His dox has also been public information for years, and I can't really figure out a scenario where we hurt his family by knowing the name of a defunct mobile gaming account. Now, this wouldn't necessarily be 100% proof, and I'm sure people would insist that Phil could simply have made a new account at some point, but I think it'd be a pretty big win for Phil, who has certainly shown 0 restraint in previously dunking on people whenever he got the chance. He loves to bring up whenever we get stuff wrong, escort saga being a prime example. Hell, yesterday he tried to dunk on us by saying we greatly exaggerated the price of his coffee maker. Phil is not a reserved person, if he had something to easily rub in our faces, he'd do so.
To try and preemptively counter some arguments, we know Phil uses the same email for everything, and he's demonstrated in the past he also uses the same password for everything. Even if his autologin information isn't saved on his phone, he can request the login info get sent to his account, and can't try to claim he used a throwaway email he doesn't remember. A quick google search shows multiple posts with people asking how to get an account back, with other users answering you just have to contact Scopley's customer support and they'll ask for your original username and get you set up. Seems fairly reasonable to me, I imagine they'd want to make the process as easy as possible for returning customers. Again, it might seem like too much effort for anyone else, and while Phil is certainly lazy, he typically musters up his energy when it comes to being spiteful. Just look at how much energy he's spent the last few days to try and dunk on TLOU2.
As for the other argument, that TheyCallMeDSP could just be someone else with those initials. I mean, you're not wrong, that is technically possible. But I feel like a quick google search pretty clearly shows that, it is not actually a common name. There's quite a few TheyCallMe variants if you just google that, but all the DSP ones seem to belong to Phil. And as mentioned before, Phil isn't really known for changing things up. He uses the same name over and over, so it seems very out there that someone else would use that username, on a game that Phil himself has admitted to playing, for one of the few hobbies that Phil has. Unless I'm mistaken, Phil also used/didn't ever attempt to deny/even confirmed at one point, that he played the previous WWE iteration under the same name, and spent at least a few hundred bucks on it, so again, it isn't coming out of nowhere to assume this username was linked to him.
Now, in comparison, using DZoomer as an example, a quick google search for that username turned up a bunch of different things that, as far as I can tell, all belong to different people.
Then there's also the other smaller arguments of why Phil banned people who brought it up, why he banned people who mentioned the down from the rafters username, since there's no way he'd know that the "real" DSP changed his name to that, especially since changing usernames isn't even a normal option. Actually, adding onto that, why would the troll even try and do the name change? They had to go out of their way to contact customer support, and since it isn't an option normally offered, they had no way of knowing we'd still be able to track the name. If they wanted to try and hide because that's what the real DSP would do and they want to mimic him, there are plenty of other attempts they could have made to keep the act up without resorting to such a wild card that might have actually worked if Scopley had a better system, which again, there's no way to know they didn't because this isn't a service they normally offer.
There are a lot of other little things like this, on top of some of the bigger ones mentioned in this/other people's posts. Having doubt about something is fine and healthy. A lot of us initially had doubts when the idea was first proposed, with many citing the escort saga. That's why so many people are vehemently refuting you, because there's been enough deep digging to build what I consider a fairly strong case that this is Phil's account. If you still have doubts, eh, more power to you I guess. I'm sure you're not the only one. I mean, if nothing else DSP's fans seem to doubt it. But if you want to keep coming in here to insist you don't believe, you're going to have to bring something a little stronger to the table.
Appreciate the writeup. I think you brought up some fair points. I do think its strange that if it were a troll, he would change his name. The troll would probably want to be seen and there would be no reason once the account is seen to continue the trolling. If its not a troll, it could be just a random person, idk.
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All I'm gonna say is that I think if you're seriously not convinced from all the evidence, that you're deluded or crazy... And this is coming from someone who is convinced that 'the incident' was a Deep Snort conspiracy by Phil to generate attention for his stream, albeit one that probably backfired
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The "random person" was kicked out of several guilds because he refused to provide proof that he wasn't DSP.
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With a fairly active Discord account during the time of his big first faction. All he had to do was go in voice-chat, or turn up a camera, or make a quick sign "I'm not DSP" and take a photo. Very easy solutions, especially the last one if he doesn't own a mic or cam (because he spent it all on gatcha games).
Of course it needs further prove if he came up with this solution NOW, because enough time went by to prepare a galaxy brain scam.
Also of I recall correctly the WWE account is hard linked to your phone, you can't just create a new account. But that's just what I remember from hearsay. If correct then of course Phil won't show his phone, he could never have created a second account during that time to fool us all. Unless galaxy brain.
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What is it, every three months or so someone that's totally not a fan of Phil, has watched like one video, comes into this thread with the "Has anyone considered that it's a troll or just a massive coincidence" nonsense? If past patterns hold, he'll pretend to be reasonable for another day or two before going off the handle about how people here just can't accept that because an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence does not equal proof, and DSP says it's not him, we're wrong.
I don't know if it's the same person doing it or a new member of the retard army each time, but whatever. You win. It's not Phil, just a rich troll with no endgame at all or an astronomical coincidence that no one is willing to dispel despite it effecting their favorite hobby. Go tell the other wheelchairs that you beat the Farms and ask Phil to be your real dad.
I don't know if it's the same person doing it or a new member of the retard army each time, but whatever. You win. It's not Phil, just a rich troll with no endgame at all or an astronomical coincidence that no one is willing to dispel despite it effecting their favorite hobby. Go tell the other wheelchairs that you beat the Farms and ask Phil to be your real dad.
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Did Dave make coming to the farms and defending him a condition for your modship, OIC?
The people in this thread already gave you more attention than you deserve because you should have been ignored the minute you thought that somebody spent 100 grand to grief Dave.
To answer why he didn't just change his name again is probably because Scopely told him no and he ran all out of good boy points with them.
I know that common sense is a big ask for a wheelchair but I fully expect you to understand that the simplest answer is usually the right one. It's the same reason why MOST people accept that 9/11 was a terrorist attack perpetrated by extremists and not the grand conspiracy that there were no planes and the buildings were demo'd by our government.
Do yourself a favor, and stick to Dave's chat. You make God frown down upon you when you shame yourself like this.
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I mean guys, it's clear that because we still have no smoking gun linking it to Dave that we all just made this shit up. After all the man had to go through a bankruptcy for fuck's sake! He didn't have the money to do it, he didn't have the money to do it, he didn't have the money to do it, he didn't have the money to do it! Nevermind that we know that he was an indulgent idiot who has been wasteful with money even during his pre-YT days because he bough a khando at a massive loss just before the housing bubble burst, he took business loans to travel to fighting game events and tournaments and he bought a bunch of dumb gamer shit collectibles that he couldn't even maintain properly so a lot of them either got broken or stained with God knows what due to neglect. Once a wastrel, always a wastrel, and Dave hasn't changed one bit and the proof is his entire "career" as a YouTube khantent creator turned Twitch schtreemer offering on-demand and livestreamed begging services. I keep repeating myself but he is the kind of guy who was destined for bankruptcy.
You know what guys, I just cracked the case, clearly it is Fred Fuchs running yet another one of his overly elaborate gay op schemes which would make Tzeentch blush in its complexity and the number of running parts involved. Despite being ran off from the internet, he is still there detracting from the shadows. What happened is that Freddy boy while shilling his water walls down in Africa came across and befriended a Saudi prince who has more money than common sense and convinced him to run this gay op to this day. That would explain why a troll would spend so much money (tens of thousands of dollars are pennies to a Saudi prince) and why the troll op despite having so many moving parts hasn't seen a discrepancy yet (the prince just has a team of his servants dedicated just for this one gay op, led by an ex-CIA top cryptologist who has studied the Dave to such a degree he knows exactly how to impersonate Dave's internet writing patterns to a T, as well as how he'd act under pressure).
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For posterity's sake.
I had an account that was high enough league to search factions. I deleted the app when it seemed NotDSP found a new home. I downloaded the app again to check the new factions and couldn't retrieve my previous account. Sent an email, and they ask you to message in game:
- Old and new username (case sensitive)
- Faction Name (case sensitive)
- Highest Talent Superstar
- Player Level
- In-game Cash Amount
- In-game Coin Amount
- Any purchase receipts
The only way around this would be having a WWE Champions account that was linked to your Facebook account, and lord knows DSP isn't social enough to be on Facebook.
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Yeah, at this point the most acceptable extreme someone could reasonably argue is saying it's almost definite it's DSP but they'll grant a 1% margin of error in the extreme (extreme) off-chance it's some massive coincidence. Someone reading this entire thread, or even skimming it and reading the major points, and coming away saying they're not convinced is in full on pignosis or being willfully obtuse.