2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Thanks. So if it goes to legislatures, do we have any idea which ones would likely vote for Republican electors rather than Democrat? Or is it all a Great Unknown?

Ah well, there's the rub. Here's which party controls the governor and legislature by disputed state

WI - D governor, R legislature
MI - D governor, R legislature
PA - D governor, R legislature
GA - R governor, R legislature
NV - D governor, D legislature
AZ - R governor, R legislature.

However, GA Gov Kemp seems to be on board with the coup. And the head of the legislature in MI is similarly on board. What would happen in a vote in the legislature? I'm not sure. The fact that Kemp doesn't want to allow a special session and Doug Mastriano was prevented from having a special session in PA makes me think the RINOs are concerned that a vote in the legislature would flip the state though.
 
Ah well, there's the rub. Here's which party controls the governor and legislature by disputed state

WI - D governor, R legislature
MI - D governor, R legislature
PA - D governor, R legislature
GA - R governor, R legislature
NV - D governor, D legislature
AZ - R governor, R legislature.

However, GA Gov Kemp seems to be on board with the coup. And the head of the legislature in MI is similarly on board. What would happen in a vote in the legislature? I'm not sure. The fact that Kemp doesn't want to allow a special session and Doug Mastriano was prevented from having a special session in PA makes me think the RINOs are concerned that a vote in the legislature would flip the state though.
I don't want to get my hope up, but at the same time, I want to believe.
 
So far the status on the contested states

PN: Scotus could overturn Pennsylvania and let electors pick due to Pennsylvania has done unconstitutional stuff.

AZ: the gope is both based by trying to decertify the election but cuck by certifying?

GA: CUCKED.

MI: Trump's legal team got the voting machines but the voting machines have deleted voting data so maybe they got the machines before the data deletion?

Nv: Democratic Stronghold but the republicans are based.

So my probability of Trump getting those states

Pn: 50% likely
Mi: 25% low likely
Az: 15% not likely
NV: 1% you can try but will fail
GA: -10000000000 you might as well let dems get the senate.

I think Trump's strategy is for SCOTUS to flip Pennsylvania in the courts and that will cause a domino effect by giving Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and yes, even Georgia the greenlight to go full faithless elector on December 14th. Today's the day, supposedly. I hope that 5-4 majority will be enough to get the proceedings to start today and to rule in favor of Trump.

If SCOTUS says there was fraud in one of the major contested states officially, it's enough of a cover that any attempt at giving these disputed votes to Biden would be easily called out by the constituents and a lot of the GOP would finally see the official "seal of approval" to fully back Trump. Even the more wishy-washy ones would back him just to hedge their bets.

I'm hoping SCOTUS isn't a nothingburger but I'm not optimistic about it either.

So the Georgia GOP is suing the Republican Sec of State? Awesome.

The conspiratard theory is that Kemp is cucking hard because he's being threatened.

The car crash that killed his daughter's boyfriend has added fuel to the fire.

Genuine (non Jew related) question. Is it normal for cars to blow up in a massive fire ball from a fuel tank catching fire? Thought that was just in the movies.

It's not normal but it is possible.

Granted, it's usually the result of those one-in-a-million freak accidents, so make of that what you will.

Personally, I think it really was just a freak accident, as strange as it sounds.

If the bigwigs wanted to kill Kemp's daughter's boyfriend to scare him without drawing unwanted attention to themselves, they wouldn't go for something as dramatic and unpredictable as an exploding car. They would've either quietly killed him and made it look like a suicide or paid off some jogger to shoot him and pass it off as a mugging.

The only reason why Epstein's death was called into question by even the normies is because of how plain absurd a lot of the assumptions were. He was under suicide watch with no real means of suicide beyond banging his head on the wall until he got a hemorrhage in his brain. Saying he just hung himself reeked of a coverup and even normal people and Woke Leftists saw the obvious bullshit for what it was.
 
I think Trump's strategy is for SCOTUS to flip Pennsylvania in the courts and that will cause a domino effect by giving Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and yes, even Georgia the greenlight to go full faithless elector on December 14th. Today's the day, supposedly. I hope that 5-4 majority will be enough to get the proceedings to start today and to rule in favor of Trump.

If SCOTUS says there was fraud in one of the major contested states officially, it's enough of a cover that any attempt at giving these disputed votes to Biden would be easily called out by the constituents and a lot of the GOP would finally see the official "seal of approval" to fully back Trump. Even the more wishy-washy ones would back him just to hedge their bets.

I'm hoping SCOTUS isn't a nothingburger but I'm not optimistic about it either.



It's not normal but it is possible.

Granted, it's usually the result of those one-in-a-million freak accidents, so make of that what you will.

Personally, I think it really was just a freak accident, as strange as it sounds.

If the bigwigs wanted to kill Kemp's daughter's boyfriend to scare him without drawing unwanted attention to themselves, they wouldn't go for something as dramatic and unpredictable as an exploding car. They would've either quietly killed him and made it look like a suicide or paid off some jogger to shoot him and pass it off as a mugging.

The only reason why Epstein's death was called into question by even the normies is because of how plain absurd a lot of the assumptions were. He was under suicide watch with no real means of suicide beyond banging his head on the wall until he got a hemorrhage in his brain. Saying he just hung himself reeked of a coverup and even normal people and Woke Leftists saw the obvious bullshit for what it was.
I'm still lost at how people think Trump is going to go from being 1-49 in court cases to flipping 3 states in the SCOTUS. What evidence do people expect to show up all of a sudden that is supposed to turn everything around?
 
I'm still lost at how people think Trump is going to go from being 1-49 in court cases to flipping 3 states in the SCOTUS. What evidence do people expect to show up all of a sudden that is supposed to turn everything around?

He's only going to flip one state via SCOTUS if that even happens at all

But the implication is if even one of the major states flips via the SCOTUS, that will cause a domino effect by giving the GOP legislatures to fully uncuck themselves since SCOTUS backing up Trump on one state will be seen as him being vindicated. Then the states can do the rest.

Even a weak and easily intimidated coward like Kemp seems like he'd back Trump if SCOTUS gave him Pennsylvania, especially if it meant keeping his seat away from Stacey Abrams in 2022.

He's got a decent shot of the courts flipping Pennsylvania, assuming Alito's ultimatum is answered today but aside from that, I'm not hopeful. I'm not even expecting Alito's ultimatum to be answered to get the court case on Pennsylvania
 
An authoritarian crackdown is coming. I'm just hoping the right people get cracked down upon.
It would be better to do away with the current state entirely. For both sides.

I dont want "those people" to be cracked down upon. I want no crackdown at all.

Id choose complete chaos as the lesser evil vs totalitarian purges and people herded into cattle cars.
 
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I really fail to understand why this thread has not been locked. The remaining people are actually growing delusional about Trump's chances and the few who finally realize after so much copium end up so blackpilled they immediately start fedposting. And this is only a day or so after the FBI showed their hand monitoring the thread

For the safety of the farms, I think this thread should be shut down and locked now before the inevitable couch-cuck 2.0 incident happens.
It was some dumbass like you trying to tell everyone to shut up that got the fbi's attention.

The only thing more pathetic than being a forum mod is being a backseat forum mini mod.
 
An interesting article criticizing Biden's economic plans from a Marxist perspective. As a fiscally liberal social conservative - basically, I want to use Quantitative Easing to build tanks to conquer Lebensraum which will then be looted for more goods to balance the extra cash - I approve.

https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1322/bidenomics-boom-or-bust/
You might say that politicians and mainstream economic policy have learnt their lesson and now realise that ‘austerity’ only makes things worse by reducing spending and ‘effective demand’. In other words, austerity policies will not be revived. After all, even the International Monetary Fund is saying, ‘Spend as much as necessary and don’t worry about the consequences for debt’.10 But that is now - in the depth of the pandemic slump. When debt costs and government measures mount on the capitalist sector, capitalism will look to protect already weak profits by cutting government taxes and spending.11

The supporters of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) may cry out at this point and argue that governments do not need to borrow money through debt issuance and so run up interest costs. They can just get the central banks to ‘print’ the currency and put it in the government coffers. Rising public debt is then not an obstacle to government investment and spending in order to boost the economy and deliver full employment. In a way, that is right if government spending is productive for the economy. But what is an obstacle is the willingness and capability of the capitalist sector to invest if profitability is low.

How much government investment would be necessary to replace capitalist investment and get the US economy growing at rates that restore and raise real wages, achieve full employment and apply resources and innovation to combat climate change? It would require ‘war economy’ levels, when federal government investment rose to 23% of GDP and the government controlled and directed the capitalist sector to invest.

That is not on Biden’s agenda or, for that matter, on the agenda of MMT supporters, because such a move would be way more than just ‘stimulating’ the capitalist sector: it would actually mean ‘replacing’ its investment role. It would mean an economic revolution not wanted by Biden, and not envisaged by MMT.

In an editorial entitled ‘Bidenomics can preserve support for capitalism’, the Financial Times put it thus: “Since John Maynard Keynes, the best case for state intervention has not been to abolish the market, but to preserve public support for it”; and, while “if implemented, Bidenomics would make life more burdensome for business and for high-earners, it might also avert a larger reckoning further down the line.”12
 
An interesting article criticizing Biden's economic plans from a Marxist perspective. As a fiscally liberal social conservative - basically, I want to use Quantitative Easing to build tanks to conquer Lebensraum which will then be looted for more goods to balance the extra cash - I approve.

https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1322/bidenomics-boom-or-bust/
So the endless wars are going be for for Iranian oil reserves?

They risked civil war by rigging a POTUS election with a zombie so they can go after oil?

If true then that means what reserves america has access to is very low or running out. Why else pull a move so desperate?

Like I said for the doomers. Chill the fuck out. Time Isnt on woke capitals side.

Evo and others scream at me for my post industrial views (they call it doomerism) but realize these are not my ideas.

I got them from people much smarter then me. Im not the most articulate, or best at backing up with what I say about the coming collapse of technology. The people who convinced me of my current ideas are just as smart as evo.

Relax. Things will get better. Just not better in the way you want them to. Thats just how it goes.
 
So the endless wars are going be for for Iranian oil reserves?

They risked civil war by rigging a POTUS election with a zombie so they can go after oil?

If true then that means what reserves america has access to is very low or running out. Why else pull a move so desperate?

Like I said for the doomers. Chill the fuck out. Time Isnt on woke capitals side.

Evo and others scream at me for my post industrial views (they call it doomerism) but realize these are not my ideas.

I got them from people much smarter then me. Im not the most articulate, or best at backing up with what I say about the coming collapse of technology. The people who convinced me of my current ideas are just as smart as evo.

Relax. Things will get better. Just not better in the way you want them to. Thats just how it goes.
Iranian oil reserves is a funny way to spell Greater Israel and complete Middle Eastern destabilization
 
So the endless wars are going be for for Iranian oil reserves?

They risked civil war by rigging a POTUS election with a zombie so they can go after oil?

If true then that means what reserves america has access to is very low or running out. Why else pull a move so desperate?
Would be rather Ironic, considering they kept insisting that Trump was a warmonger. Wonder how leftists, Democrats, redditors and etc, etc. will cope with that.
 
So the endless wars are going be for for Iranian oil reserves?
I'm only joking. I just like the idea of the fiscally liberal/socially conservative meaning Hitler. Mind you I do think you can make a case that it's true.

Interesting if I google fiscally liberal/socially conservative there are other non-meme versions of it. One of the weird things about the people who voted Conservative in Blue Wall constituencies that flipped from Labour to Conservative is that it describes them. Same with Trump's rust belt supporters. Of course in the UK/US case, those people are also keen on free speech and on using democratic controls to reign in elites. They're also very anti forever wars but they're not averse to the government intervening in the economy in a variety of ways. So you've got a version of fiscally liberal/social conservative which is democratically viable. So democratically viable that the elites needed to steal an election when a media monopoly wasn't enough to make people reject it at the ballot box. Matthew Goodwin describes this sort of ideology as 'National Populism' and it produced both Trump and Brexit.

Also, the Hitler version of fiscally liberal/socially conservative seemed doomed from the start, to be honest. There's no way he would have been able to conquer an empire large enough not to be destroyed by naval powers cutting off its supplies.

That's not to say that the National Populist version is doomed, even if the current situation in the US seems like a serious setback in the short term

Trump clipped Tucker showing a remarkable Chinese video where an academic claimed China had 'people at the top'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xa-w2MTKRA


Would be rather Ironic, considering they kept insisting that Trump was a warmonger. Wonder how leftists, Democrats, redditors and etc, etc. will cope with that.
I don't think it will present them much of a problem. Remember when Obama got in and the anti-war movement just stopped getting any coverage by the media. People like Cindy Shehan just stopped getting interviewed and the demonstrations they organized stopped getting covered. E.g.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan#Political_activism
In August 2009, Sheehan protested at Martha's Vineyard during President Barack Obama's stay there. According to ABC News: "Sheehan invoked Senator Ted Kennedy's passing as part of her message, noting that he was firmly antiwar and how he said his proudest vote as a senator was his 2002 vote against the Iraq war."[54] On October 5, 2009, Sheehan was arrested with 60 others at the White House protesting President Obama's continuation of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. She told CNN: "I think the mood of the country and the mood of our movement is getting a little bit more desperate, and [that] this will be the time to be able to translate our tireless activism and work for peace."[55] On December 10, 2009, Sheehan protested on the streets of Oslo, Norway, as President Barack Obama accepted the Nobel Peace Prize.[56] In 2009, she was awarded the US Peace Prize by the US Peace Memorial Foundation for “extraordinary and innovative antiwar activism."[57]

On March 20, 2010, Sheehan was again arrested in front of the White House, along with seven others, after they refused to listen to orders by officers of the United States Park Police to clear the sidewalk on Pennsylvania Avenue.[58] On July 12, Sheehan and four other activists were on trial in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia stemming from the arrests. The government decided not to try three others arrested that day, and had their cases dismissed. Sheehan and two others were acquitted of crossing a police line, while the other two were found guilty.[59]
I don't remember any of those getting any coverage at all and certainly, nothing like the blanket coverage her protests got when Bush was POTUS.
 
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So the endless wars are going be for for Iranian oil reserves?

They risked civil war by rigging a POTUS election with a zombie so they can go after oil?

If true then that means what reserves america has access to is very low or running out. Why else pull a move so desperate?

Like I said for the doomers. Chill the fuck out. Time Isnt on woke capitals side.

Evo and others scream at me for my post industrial views (they call it doomerism) but realize these are not my ideas.

I got them from people much smarter then me. Im not the most articulate, or best at backing up with what I say about the coming collapse of technology. The people who convinced me of my current ideas are just as smart as evo.

Relax. Things will get better. Just not better in the way you want them to. Thats just how it goes.
America has plenty of oil. Conflicts in the middle east to secure oil is not for the US, but for it's allies in Europe and Asia. That's why it's the globalists crying each time the conflicts descelate
 
Actually, another quirk of the MSM is that this scandal in Chicago, run by Obama's buddy Rahm Emmanuel, got no coverage

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site
https://archive.vn/8ieKf

What seems to have attracted the Guardian's attention is these three middle class, far left, white people, i.e. the same demographic as Guardianistas, got the treatment normally only reserved for non middle class or non white people. The horror!

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