2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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So, our only hope is if SCOTUS takes up Alito's Pennsylvania case by midnight tonight?
That deadline is 9pm tonight, when there's not going to be any clerks working more than likely. Even in the event that there are, you're not going to get a judgment by tomorrow if the thing is filed at 9 - which is exactly when the PA electoral officials will file their respones to Kelly's claims. The deadline being set for the 9th and then for 9pm on the 8th is a form of the SCOTUS throwing shade.
 
Meh, maybe? Giuliani and Ellis didn't pass the SCOTUS bar, Ted Cruz will be arguing the case in SCOTUS. They kinda already did their jobs with collecting evidence and the hearings.
I'll be honest, I've long lost the ability to see how things go Trump's way in this whole saga. And this looks to be the final blow to his chances. And then, it's all lists, Nuremburg, and hunting down.
 
Conclusive refers to the determination of any controversy or contest as is said in the very section you cited, and all of the contested states have pending cases that have not been determined yet. A contingent election is not a "re-do" by the way, it's a House vote where each state is delegated one vote, and an absolute majority of 26 states is required to elect a president. The actual reality (the one you're wedded to) of the situation is that the safe harbor deadline is not a hard deadline, no matter how much you want it to be, and it never was. And there's more than enough prima facie (two words I suggest anyone thinking there's no evidence of fraud look into) evidence to affirm that yes, there is indeed a problem, one that hasn't been effectively disproved or rebutted whatsoever despite there being a very easy method to do so (you know, audits). Should be pointed out that in Bush v. Gore, SCOTUS justices like RBG argued that neither of the dates in December are strictly constitutional, by the way.
The intent behind the entire constitution is that democrats get what they want.

At least that's how the sc likes to interpret it.
 
They cant really ignore a Union State demanding they address what are tbqh very serious constitutional questions.
One might say they can, since their exercise of their jurisdiction here is discretionary even in this instance. However, you are correct in saying that this is significant. Texas' pleading is not a complete joke, unlike some of the shit that has been filed thus far. The persuasiveness of the evidence that Texas is claiming to have remains to be seen, but this case in particular is the first time I've felt like there might be potential for something significant to happen in court. We'll see what the supremes do about this one if they don't just decide to punt.
 
That deadline is 9pm tonight, when there's not going to be any clerks working more than likely. Even in the event that there are, you're not going to get a judgment by tomorrow if the thing is filed at 9 - which is exactly when the PA electoral officials will file their respones to Kelly's claims. The deadline being set for the 9th and then for 9pm on the 8th is a form of the SCOTUS throwing shade.
If it's all over why are the leftists at Mediaite so insistent that Alito decline to hear the case?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...uptive-e2-80-99-cases-of-all-time/ar-BB1bK4cf
https://archive.vn/wip/VacS4


Here's the post

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...e-most-dramatic-disruptive-cases-of-all-time/
https://archive.vn/wip/EB6vB

Shouldn't they be saying 'Nyah! You missed the deadline. Enjoy your Biden Presidency, amnesties, more rigged elections and Uniparty dystopia'?

It seems like they're not as confident that it's all over as you are.
 
This is a pedantic argument from them. Yes, technically, the constitution mentions march 4th and the 20th amendment mentions the 20th of january.

The suggestion here is that you would throw out the the entirety of the US Code - but you'd still be up a creek.

The constitution Article II Section I specifies the use of electors to nominate the president. It also states "The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States." Which means that the constitution endorses the use of the US Code.



Hahahah. Conclusive means pending? The controversy as regards the nomination of the electors is not that someone alleges controversy, or else literally every sore loser in history could have bogged it down with frivalous lawsuits that go nowhere.

But alright, mix-up of terms. See, the contingent election triggers if a candidate doesn't hit the absolute majority of electoral votes. I thought the suggestion was that the Congress would just unilaterally reject the vote, which seems unrealistic to me. So yes, if you can get conclusive controversy down by tonight and somehow flag enough votes that there is no majority in the college, you can trigger the ol' 12th amendment.

As regards the consitutionality, sure, as above. It's a technicality. As regards prima facie, it appears that there haven't been much success in the courts in doing that - a lot of those affidavits have been given to committees that deem them unreliable, and a lot of the video evidence seems to be getting rebutted by affidavits from election officials, like that atlanta state farm arena thing. You could try to lodge a court case in the same way, but thusfar it doesn't at all appear to be prima facie to anyone with authority in government. Indeed, it appears to be "claim - rebuttal - actually that rebuttal is totally false and while I can't make a specific statement just look at this footage right here does that not look right - rebuttal - you're a democrat plant".

But, yeah, prove me wrong. Lodge something tonight that disputes the electoral vote. Or don't, and then try again to dispute it and drag that case to the SCOTUS to argue the merits of Safe Harbor.
If "frivalous" lawsuits end up going nowhere, it doesn't bog down the process because they would simply be ignored by the time the electoral college votes, it's only a six day period after all. Seems to be getting rebutted? And deemed unreliable by which committees exactly? I'd love to hear what these so-called rebuttals are especially in regards to the video clip, ones that address the very serious and significant allegations being made with hundreds of affidavits suggesting improper election procedure (to put it lightly) and statistically significant anomalies found in analysis to the point. An actual rebuttal wouldn't be a half-assed fact check or an investigation done by the parties being accused of fraud that find themselves innocent, it would be a remedy that definitively proves that there wasn't any fraud that all signs at the moment are pointing to (and you don't have to support Trump in any way to note signs of fraud that would be called as such in any other country). I hope you don't think that you're being proven right if this all falls flat by the way, that's an argument based on power, not principle- since again, in any other country people would be up to believing that systematic corruption is plausible, but not the USA because reasons. Look into the no standing/laches doctrines that courts have been all too keen to rely on, you might start to notice that judges aren't as impartial as you'd think, and the court system is not a bastion of justice, which is why people from day one have been saying this would be a SCOTUS issue.
 
I'll be honest, I've long lost the ability to see how things go Trump's way in this whole saga. And this looks to be the final blow to his chances. And then, it's all lists, Nuremburg, and hunting down.
I partially agree with the first part of your comment, the issue arrives in the second half they communist won't act quickly. Remember they need to frame optics, more than likely it'll be a slow burn before they consider any such actions. It'll start with small acts of violence here and there and political persecutions, the major acts probably won't be for at least a few months to a few years.
 
If it's all over why are the leftists at Mediaite so insistent that Alito decline to hear the case

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...uptive-e2-80-99-cases-of-all-time/ar-BB1bK4cf
https://archive.vn/wip/VacS4



Here's the post

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...e-most-dramatic-disruptive-cases-of-all-time/
https://archive.vn/wip/EB6vB

If it's all over why are they still telling Alito not to take the case? Shouldn't they be saying 'Nyah! You missed the deadline. Enjoy your Biden Presidency, amnesties, more rigged elections and Uniparty dystopia'

you guys spend all days correctly identifying that leftists are retarded, and then you fail to use that explanation?
This filing https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20A98/162968/20201208090425848_20A98 Response in Opposition efile.pdf looks like a lot of fluff and attention seeking. One of them looks to be the PA attorney general's office- Shapiro grandstands all the time. Two are filing from New York. One's an office in Philly.
Oh, but late, yeah this is the state's response? Nevermind then, that's just the process. Weird that they didn't wait until closer to the deadline.


If "frivalous" lawsuits end up going nowhere, it doesn't bog down the process because they would simply be ignored by the time the electoral college votes, it's only a six day period after all. Seems to be getting rebutted? And deemed unreliable by which committees exactly? I'd love to hear what these so-called rebuttals are especially in regards to the video clip, ones that address the very serious and significant allegations being made with hundreds of affidavits suggesting improper election procedure (to put it lightly) and statistically significant anomalies found in analysis to the point. An actual rebuttal wouldn't be a half-assed fact check or an investigation done by the parties being accused of fraud that find themselves innocent, it would be a remedy that definitively proves that there wasn't any fraud that all signs at the moment are pointing to (and you don't have to support Trump in any way to note signs of fraud that would be called as such in any other country). I hope you don't think that you're being proven right if this all falls flat by the way, that's an argument based on power, not principle- since again, in any other country people would be up to believing that systematic corruption is plausible, but not the USA because reasons. Look into the no standing/laches doctrines that courts have been all too keen to rely on, you might start to notice that judges aren't as impartial as you'd think, and the court system is not a bastion of justice, which is why people from day one have been saying this would be a SCOTUS issue.
that drunk lady was speaking to a committe over in michigan, was it? go look up what that committee concluded. The georgian electoral office released a statement explaining the video of people with ballot tubs (they cut ballots most of the day, and scanned them at night with fewer volunteers. the observers left early, despite no one telling them to, because they were all too busy defending freedom to ask anyone what was happening). there has been plenty of time for footage to come out of someone telling them all to go home, which apparently hasn't been forthcoming or enough to convince anyone to look into that. and georgia has done THREE recounts which concur with the count

a half-assed fact check or an investigation done by the parties being accused? you declare that, what, prima facie? nigger state AGs and legislatures are not state electoral commissions, and the various forms of state election security committees are also not the same as the people administrating the electoral process. the remedies that you have suggested have all been put into place - you are pointedly ignoring their findings. I have been open so long as you make a goddamn case that isn't "look at this youtube video and ignore the explanations the state gives and the lack of further evidence that the state is not telling the truth despite literally hundreds of people with cellphones." Affidavits sworn to election committees are jack shit compared to affidavits sworn to a court, and we've had a lot of one and very little of the other.

everyone has been waiting for you to do something other than conjecture. Every accusation thusfar has been "doesn't this look suspicious?" and had a real wet fart of a follow up to the election officials explaining. You have until midnight tonight to blow the lid wide open - so why don't you call up the trump camp, right now, and offer to work for them pro-bono because you've got the proof: just argue in courts that the courts for fags
 
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If it's all over why are the leftists at Mediaite so insistent that Alito decline to hear the case?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...uptive-e2-80-99-cases-of-all-time/ar-BB1bK4cf
https://archive.vn/wip/VacS4



Here's the post

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electi...e-most-dramatic-disruptive-cases-of-all-time/
https://archive.vn/wip/EB6vB

Shouldn't they be saying 'Nyah! You missed the deadline. Enjoy your Biden Presidency, amnesties, more rigged elections and Uniparty dystopia'?

It seems like they're not as confident that it's all over as you are.
Come on, everyone knows the supreme court likes to waste it's own time pretending to take on cases. Maybe nobody told them about the safe harbor thing.

Do the sc justices have as many constitutional law experts as we do in this thread? It's hard to imagine.
 
you guys spend all days correctly identifying that leftists are retarded, and then you fail to use that explanation?
This filing https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20A98/162968/20201208090425848_20A98 Response in Opposition efile.pdf looks like a lot of fluff and attention seeking. One of them looks to be the PA attorney general's office- Shapiro grandstands all the time. Two are filing from New York. One's an office in Philly.
If the deadline has passed why did Alito ask people to file briefs and why did they file briefs? It sure seems like they think it is possible he could rule on this even after December 8th passes.

For what it's worth I don't think any of these people are 'retarded'. And they're all behaving as if they think Alito could rule between now and the Electoral College vote. The Democrat lawyers are filing briefs and the swine at Mediaite are geeing up the base to riot because of ZOMGTRUMPCOUP if the SCOTUS does rule against them.

Also, you keep making judgements about what is fluff and what is not. The only body that can determine that is the SCOTUS. Neither your nor my opinions actually mean anything because we're not SCOTUS judges.

I hope they decide that Shapiro's filing is 'fluff and attention-seeking' and take the case but there's no guarantee they will.
 
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