2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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The High Prophet of Truth said:
A Trump win is the best case for all this, but that doesn't mean that it's consequences won't suck. Insurrection Act or not, millions of people would rather America burn then Orange Man have a second term.
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Meh. They want to burn things regardless of how things go. The reason is secondary.

Edit: I'm talking about the left, of course.
 
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Battyann said:
This Texas lawsuit appears legally merit less - what standing does Texas (or any of these other states joining in) have to invalidate results of other States? Also they waited way too long to bring this
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It's not an accident or an error that Texas waited until the 11th hour to file this suit immediately after the SCOTUS was preparing to hear the case from Pennsylvania, and it's also why the PA case was unanimously slapped off of the table and the Texas case was given a scheduling order. Scheduling orders are not automatic. They are specific to the relief sought, and they are given manual approval. This is also one of the only circumstances where a court can have jurisdiction over all other states; the only court that can do that is the SCOTUS, and what's interesting about that is because it's the SCOTUS and because this is a dispute between states, it automatically becomes "original jurisdiction" instead of appellate jurisdiction.

The fascinating part about that is that it essentially invalidates all of the decisions in the lower courts to toss out evidence. Every case that was sent off "with prejudice" and smashed into the floorboards before they could even present their evidence in a bid to lock whatever they brought to the table under lock and key is now functionally meaningless, because we're entering into an original jurisdiction, meaning that this is the first time the court will be hearing the case. This isn't "stepping up" from the lower courts, this is leaping directly over their heads and straight into the SCOTUS because of the nature of the dispute. This is something that only states can do; not even Trump himself would have been allowed to present a case like this, hence why his lawyers told him he had no legal standing to do so, because he doesn't.

Everyone had a good laugh over the lower courts tossing all of the lawsuits to the curb, and some more astute people would have pointed out that you can't introduce evidence into a Supreme Court case, because by their very nature they tend to be appellate having worked their way up through the court system, and they'd be correct. However, there is a time when evidence is allowed to be introduced to a Supreme Court case: When it's an original jurisdiction case.

They've had an entire month now to bat all of this evidence around and gather up the best of what they can find, they've had all of it put through every ringer imaginable and the media played its role perfectly well by chasing the laser pointer around the room while the actual case was being crafted and prepared for the Supreme Court, hence why I said at the very start of all of this that we're heading to the Supreme Court one way or the other, so not much else mattered in the interim unless you're some sort of incoherent screaming sommelier.

This is the part where I start getting really interested in what happens, because this is a very unique circumstance that you rarely ever get to see.
 
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The Wicked Mitch said:
Most platforms currently have Biden at odds where the cut they take is pretty much what you would get in a Biden win ie 1.04-1.06 with a 4% cut so yeah it's pretty much dead

Was at 1.10 for about two weeks post election though
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So, if at this very instance Trump is declared the absolute winner because fuck this election, how much money will one make from betting Trump?
 
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It's HK-47 said:
They've had an entire month now to bat all of this evidence around and gather up the best of what they can find, they've had all of it put through every ringer imaginable and the media played its role perfectly well by chasing the laser pointer around the room while the actual case was being crafted and prepared for the Supreme Court, hence why I said at the very start of all of this that we're heading to the Supreme Court one way or the other, so not much else mattered in the interim unless you're some sort of incoherent screaming sommelier.

This is the part where I start getting really interested in what happens, because this is a very unique circumstance that you rarely ever get to see.
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lol there's still no actual evidence though, so Trump still can't steal the election
 
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So, what's Biden's endgame?

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It's HK-47 said:
It's not an accident or an error that Texas waited until the 11th hour to file this suit immediately after the SCOTUS was preparing to hear the case from Pennsylvania, and it's also why the PA case was unanimously slapped off of the table and the Texas case was given a scheduling order. Scheduling orders are not automatic. They are specific to the relief sought, and they are given manual approval. This is also one of the only circumstances where a court can have jurisdiction over all other states; the only court that can do that is the SCOTUS, and what's interesting about that is because it's the SCOTUS and because this is a dispute between states, it automatically becomes "original jurisdiction" instead of appellate jurisdiction.

The fascinating part about that is that it essentially invalidates all of the decisions in the lower courts to toss out evidence. Every case that was sent off "with prejudice" and smashed into the floorboards before they could even present their evidence in a bid to lock whatever they brought to the table under lock and key is now functionally meaningless, because we're entering into an original jurisdiction, meaning that this is the first time the court will be hearing the case. This isn't "stepping up" from the lower courts, this is leaping directly over their heads and straight into the SCOTUS because of the nature of the dispute. This is something that only states can do; not even Trump himself would have been allowed to present a case like this, hence why his lawyers told him he had no legal standing to do so, because he doesn't.

Everyone had a good laugh over the lower courts tossing all of the lawsuits to the curb, and some more astute people would have pointed out that you can't introduce evidence into a Supreme Court case, because by their very nature they tend to be appellate having worked their way up through the court system, and they'd be correct. However, there is a time when evidence is allowed to be introduced to a Supreme Court case: When it's an original jurisdiction case.

They've had an entire month now to bat all of this evidence around and gather up the best of what they can find, they've had all of it put through every ringer imaginable and the media played its role perfectly well by chasing the laser pointer around the room while the actual case was being crafted and prepared for the Supreme Court, hence why I said at the very start of all of this that we're heading to the Supreme Court one way or the other, so not much else mattered in the interim unless you're some sort of incoherent screaming sommelier.

This is the part where I start getting really interested in what happens, because this is a very unique circumstance that you rarely ever get to see.
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From the start I knew Trump wasn't going to make it to SCOTUS I told peeps it was never going to happen.

Wasn't expecting Texas to throw it in.

Still doesn't change anything TBH and I doubt Trump is going to get his win from this just more sperging just on Texas behalf.


[edit] Forgot to mention by doing this they are opening a very bad can of worms and if not handle correctly can change the outcome of elections FOREVER.
 
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Just going to leave this here for all of you to read what the other side is thinking on this election.
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
The discussion is literally about Joe Biden's negative PR versus Hilary Clinton's. This is specifically as related to Joe Biden outperforming Hillary in states she lost in.
The fact is Joe is considerably more well-liked than she was. It is entirely unsurprising that he did better. Especially in the midwest, where his restrained mannerisms mesh well with the local culture.

Joe was running ahead of her polling at literally every stage of the campaign. Anyone who is seriously wailing that there is no possible way he exceeded her numbers is operating based on fantasy instead of objective reality.

Trump went into a general election with favorability rating that never exceeded 47%, and lost 51.3% to 46.9%, entirely in line with expectations. The only question was if he maybe could eke out another narrow electoral win again.

He failed. Largely because he lost states where he spent 4 years plus shitting on local figures with legendary popularity.
The ghosts of John McCain and John Lewis say hello.
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Reisen Storm said:
So, what's Biden's endgame?

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Because sending an openly gay man to be ambassador to a thin-skinned and notoriously homophobic communist dictatorship the Democrats are trying to suck up to won't backfire on them at all...

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WTF does sending some gay glownigger to China have to do with that?
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Reisen Storm said:
Just going to leave this here for all of you to read what the other side is thinking on this election.
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I'll admit, Joe Biden might end up being one of the few cases where "I'm not the other guy" actually ends up working and it's mainly because he kept his head down as much as possible and the DNC even made sure the notoriously despicable Kamala's appearances and media presence was kept to as much of a minimum as feasibly possible.

It helps that Biden is pretty much a textbook "Generic Democrat" even more than Tim Kaine was, but also has the Obama nostalgia card to play with the suburban Karens, Southern joggers, and Gen X'ers/Early Millennials.
 
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