2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Yep it's there. Are they trying to get rid of Joe early or do they feel the ship is sinking?
The fact that Hunter got charged shows the Joe ship is sinking. If the FBI knew he was going to POTUS and would have pardon power they'd never have charged his son. And the media would have said any allegations against him are a conspiracy theory.

Since he's been charged and the media are reporting it, itimplies that Joe might not be POTUS.
 
What a difference a week makes eh? Seeing people on Twitter and Reddit freaking the fuck out over this has been very reassuring. Also noticing the Hunter story finally getting traction in the left wing media which is interesting. Is it because the election's "over" or are they giving the Democrats help throwing Biden under the bus?
Tucker says it's because they preparing the ground for Biden to resign so Kamala takes over.
 
they're trying to paint ag barr as a sensible honorable man who didnt fuck up biden's chances.
The other possibility is they are playing the optics game and pretending to be un-biased hoping that it will get people to trust them again, and if they succeed people are dumb enough that it might just work. Something something attention span of gold fish these days.
 
they're trying to paint ag barr as a sensible honorable man who didnt fuck up biden's chances.

There was a poll that said that if this story hadn't been buried it might have caused enough voters to change their mind on the election to change the result.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/2...had-known-about-scandals-suppressed-by-media/
https://archive.vn/qOarA
One in six Biden voters polled, 17 percent, said they would have changed their vote had they been aware of these stories. The report also found that without even voting for Trump and simply refusing to vote for Biden, “these voters would have handed all six of these states, and a second term, to the president if the news media had properly informed them about the two candidates.”

So even if all the stories of fraud are bullshit and the way WI, MI, PA and GA conducted their election with officials overriding the rules set by the state legislature turns out to be ruled legal by the SCOTUS it still wasn't a fair election because the media covered up true damaging stories about Biden and hyped false damaging stories about Trump.

That's not an election. It's the media and BigTech getting their preferred candidate over the line by feeding people only information that makes that candidate look good and his rival bad.

What the US risks turning into is some weird technocracy where an elite decide who the leader is going to be. They manipulate the masses into voting for him. And if that doesn't work they just stuff a bunch of ballots in algorithm chosen boxes and then cover it up.
 
Yes, that is how it works.

I was saying Texas can't sue Montana.
Yes, they can. They have the same "issues" that the other states are having. Texas just isn't because Trump won in those states, but their same logic applies (that it was somehow flawed because of that issue). Just because it went there way in that one doesn't mean they weren't the victim there, too.
 
Yes, they can. They have the same "issues" that the other states are having. Texas just isn't because Trump won in those states, but their same logic applies (that it was somehow flawed because of that issue). Just because it went there way in that one doesn't mean they weren't the victim there, too.
Except it does. The damage in this case is "The procedural issues lead to the votes of our state being invalidated"

As those votes were for Trump, the damage de facto is the election of Biden.

Ergo, if a state voted for Trump it did not invalidate the votes in Texas, and is thus not damaging.
 
Except it does. The damage in this case is "The procedural issues lead to the votes of our state being invalidated"

As those votes were for Trump, the damage de facto is the election of Biden.

Ergo, if a state voted for Trump it did not invalidate the votes in Texas, and is thus not damaging.
No, they are arguing that because the election was "flawed", that they are the victim. If it was flawed in their direction, they'd still be the victim. They just didn't include Montana because Texas's AG is looking for a pardon for his SEC investigation.
 
There was a poll that said that if this story hadn't been buried it might have caused enough voters to change their mind on the election to change the result.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/2...had-known-about-scandals-suppressed-by-media/
https://archive.vn/qOarA

So even if all the stories of fraud are bullshit and the way WI, MI, PA and GA conducted their election with officials overriding the rules set by the state legislature turns out to be ruled legal by the SCOTUS it still wasn't a fair election because the media covered up true damaging stories about Biden and hyped false damaging stories about Trump.

That's not an election. It's the media and BigTech getting their preferred candidate over the line by feeding people only information that makes that candidate look good and his rival bad.
All in all, it would give Trump the most reasonable cause to develop Trump/Populist/America First TV and a Democrat Party-tier infrastructure to help bolster his causes should he run Repub again or pull a 1912, should the uniparty be developed and Repubs throw out a shit candidate by rigging the primaries a la Hilldawg and Bernie.
 
No, they are arguing that because the election was "flawed", that they are the victim. If it was flawed in their direction, they'd still be the victim. They just didn't include Montana because Texas's AG is looking for a pardon for his SEC investigation.
SEC investigation is a state crime, not federal. Trump cannot pardon it.

And the flaw is the procedural fuckup, which lead to the election of Biden. Nuance, you claim to want it but reject it now that it is not in your favor.
 
I know that purity tests are important and all, but Texas replied.

Given the standard analysis of "read the table of contents," this one's in the bag!
"Second, Texas does not ask this Court to reelect President Trump, and Texas does not seek to disenfranchise the majority of Defendant States’ voters"

"We are just asking you to throw out the will of the majority of the Defendant State's voters, but we aren't asking you to disenfranchise them!"
 
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SEC investigation is a state crime, not federal. Trump cannot pardon it.

And the flaw is the procedural fuckup, which lead to the election of Biden. Nuance, you claim to want it but reject it now that it is not in your favor.
SEC is a federal crime. The FBI is investigating it.

The same flaw would also apply to Montana and other Republican states, though. So therefore, Texas should list those states too. Just because they went Texas's way, they won't, though
 
SEC is a federal crime. The FBI is investigating it.

The same flaw would also apply to Montana and other Republican states, though. So therefore, Texas should list those states too. Just because they went Texas's way, they won't, though
You are aware that the FBI can investigate state crimes, yes? Murder is a state crime, and often gets FBI investigation if it has federal implications or is a hate crime.
 
I think the SCOTUS will kick the decision back to the state legislatures of PA, GA, MI, WI. Not least because the alternative is so much worse.

That Texas filing is great reading

https://www.supremecourt.gov/Docket...095715842_TX-v-State-MPI-Reply-2020-12-11.pdf

INTRODUCTION

Defendant States do not seriously address grave issues that Texas raises, choosing to hide behind other court venues and decisions in which Texas could not participate and to mischaracterize both the relief that Texas seeks and the justification for that relief. An injunction should issue because Defendant States have not—and cannot—defend their actions. First, as a legal matter, neither Texas nor its citizens have an action in any other court for the relief that Texas seeks here. Moreover, no other court could provide relief as a practical matter. The suggestion that Texas—or anyone else—has an adequate remedy is specious.

Second, Texas does not ask this Court to reelect President Trump, and Texas does not seek to disenfranchise the majority of Defendant States’ voters. To both points, Texas asks this Court to recognize the obvious fact that Defendant States’ maladministration of the 2020 election makes it impossible to know which candidate garnered the majority of lawful votes. The Court’s role is to strike unconstitutional action and remand to the actors that the Constitution and Congress vest with authority for the next step. U.S. CONST. art. II, § 1, cl. 2; 3 U.S.C. § 2. Inaction would disenfranchise as many voters as taking action allegedly would. Moreover, acting decisively will not only put lower courts but also state and local officials on notice that future elections must conform to State election statutes, requiring legislative ratification of any change prior to the election. Far from condemning this and other courts to perpetual litigation, action here will stanch the flood of election-season litigation.

Third, Defendant States’ invocation of laches and standing evinces a cavalier unseriousness about the most cherished right in a democracy—the right to vote. Asserting that Texas does not raise serious issues is telling. Suggesting that Texas should have acted sooner misses the mark—the campaign to eviscerate state statutory ballot integrity provisions took months to plan and carry out yet Texas has had only weeks to detect wrongdoing, look for witnesses willing to speak, and marshal admissible evidence. Advantage to those who, for whatever reason, sought to destroy ballot integrity protections in the selection of our President. On top of these threshold issues, Defendant States do precious little to defend the merits of their actions. This Court should issue the requested injunction.
I will literally buy any Texans I meet a drink, provided they are hot and female, as a result of this filing.

I'll say one thing about this shitshow. In a time where a lot of us are a bit underemployed due to COVID it's certainly produced some thrilling reading. Which is not something I'd normally describe court documents as.

Also, look at this

Although Pennsylvania characterizes this action as a “seditious abuse of the judicial process,” Penn. Br. 2, and ‘uniquely unserious,” id. at 11, Texas seeks to enforce the right that preserves all others in a democratic republic: suffrage. Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533, 561-62 (1964). Whatever Pennsylvania’s definition of sedition, moving this Court to cure grave threats to Texas’s right of suffrage in the Senate and its citizens’ rights of suffrage in presidential elections upholds the Constitution, which is the very opposite of sedition.
LOL. Suck it Josh Shapiro, you seditious prick.

And here's the kicker. Since the election process was unconstitutional and the winner in doubt the only solution is to kick it back to the state legislatures who have plenary authority under the constitution.

The motion for interim relief enjoining Defendant States from certifying Presidential Electors and from having such electors vote in the electoral college until further order of this Court should be granted. Alternatively, this Court should summarily vacate Defendant States’ certification of presidential electors and remand to Defendant States’ legislatures pursuant to 3 U.S.C. § 2 and the Electors Clause.
Incidentally, the doctrine that the state legislature has plenary authority to choose electors is one of the things that the SCOTUS ruled in Bush vs Gore. Thomas ruled with the majority and all of Trump's appointees worked on Bush's case.

Like I say, I'm pretty confident in which way this will go.
 
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You are aware that the FBI can investigate state crimes, yes? Murder is a state crime, and often gets FBI investigation if it has federal implications or is a hate crime.
Correct, but security frauds are generally federal crime. He is being investigated at the federal level.
 
Are they trying to get rid of Joe early or do they feel the ship is sinking?

I reckon their just trying to get Kamala in and cripple threats picture is becoming eerily accurate. So the biden ship possibly is sinking but the democrat presidency is not sinking. Now the hilarity comes when Kamala announces Hillary as her VP (see what i did there?)
 
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