Pyrocynical / Niall Comas - Inflation / Furshit / Weird Allegations

[Beast Machines Megatron]

I doubt he’ll become irrelevant anytime soon. Miniladd was already on a decline when he got exposed, whereas each video Pyro puts out continues to surpass 2 million views minimum. Maybe he’ll fall off within the next year or two (this does happen quite often to many once popular channels), though I don’t expect the allegations will be the main cause of the downfall.

Interesting notion, though now I'm curious as to what you think the reason of the downfall will really be.

 

[Velcheetah]

What was that about not being able to see Ivory's tweets when you were banned between December 28 2016 and June 29 2017, Pyro?

Keem's a fucking batshit lunatic. Entertaining but a really far cry from being a reliable source. That being said I don't know where he got the French Girl story from but recently he did upload this screenshot

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https://twitter.com/KEEMSTAR/status/741701317341614080

https://archive.md/7RrZw

I don't know how reliable this is nor how Keem got this, maybe it's shopped? I don't know but I haven't seen anyone mention it yet so here it is.

*Edit: I thought this was recent because Tom retweeted it recently but this is from 2016. Again, no clue how reliable this is. Sorry, should've payed more attention to the date of the tweet

Pyro confirmed these messages are real and there was a 15 year old French girl, but he disputes Keem's version of events.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pyrocynical/comments/4nnh02/responding_to_keemstar/ / https://archive.md/lRD4R

Keem has now released a Tweet between me and this girl in an attempt to make it seem there was some kind of sexual relationship taking place

Firstly allow me to address WE WERE NEVER DATING this was a 15 year old girl (I was 18 at the time) who I talked to for a short span of time and the majority of our conversations were simply about our countries, her art and various other topics that you’d have with a friend

Now as you can see in the DM I say the word "relationship" once, this girl who I was talking to was going through a rough patch at the time and I supported her. I respect her privacy so I won't go into detail but in conclusion she was appreciative of my support and had very few people to talk to at the time so we had a friendship that I would word sometimes as a “relationship” this did not mean anything sexual transpired, we were simply talking to each other

I also said "happy to wait for you to hit 16" meaning that nothing sexual transpired and I was happy to wait for her to reach the age of consent if we were to ever have a proper relationship, bearing in mind we still had never met each other in person ever

Later certain individuals began to insinuate that there was something sexual betwen us, and that we had met up in real life, even though these two things never happened (I live in the UK and she lives in France) and this led to three individuals and Keem to create a skype group chat in an attempt to “expose me” this led to me having to end contact with the girl as knowing how these individuals work and think, I knew they would try to falsely incriminate me and potentially invade her privacy.

TL;DR for Pyro's statement: When Pyro was 18 he met a 15 year old French girl online. They became friends and after a while their relationship hit that awkward line between platonic and romantic. Pyro told her he wouldn't cross that line until she was 16. Some people in the community found out about the two of them and started harassing Pyro over it, at which point he ended things with her. He says they never met IRL and nothing sexual transpired between them.

One thing that's been bothering me that I now realized is that the current screenshot (I'm assuming it's current/recent) has the twitter profile saying 16.
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I don't know much about discord but does it like save a permanent state of what the twitter profile said the moment it was uploaded or did Ivory quickly change their twitter details to try and frame pyro in a more negative light? I'm not familiar with discord too much so if anyone else wants to look into this be my guest.

I was able to find an archive of one of Ivory's tweets from April 2017 and in the background you can see his bio is the same as the one shown in that July 2017 link embed. I've never seen Twitter link embeds update on Discord and have used them to salvage deleted unarchived tweets.

https://archive.md/CjPuJ

 

[Burning Fanatic]

Interesting notion, though now I'm curious as to what you think the reason of the downfall will really be.

It’s pretty case by case. Usually it involves channels being unable to keep their audiences interested, and thus viewers grow out of watching their favorite creators and move on to other content that’s more popular and relevant. You could look at a lot of the popular channels from the early to mid 2010’s, such as Smosh and Annoying Orange, and see just how far their view counts have fallen with recent uploads vs the massive number of subs they have.

 

[Beast Machines Megatron]

It’s pretty case by case. Usually it involves channels being unable to keep their audiences interested, and thus viewers grow out of watching their favorite creators and move on to other content that’s more popular and relevant. You could look at a lot of the popular channels from the early to mid 2010’s, such as Smosh and Annoying Orange, and see just how far their view counts have fallen with recent uploads vs the massive number of subs they have.

You know what I think your right that will probably be what kills pryo's YouTube career

When I think about it that's what happens to most youtubers A youtuber as a content creator is always unstable/ in a unsustainable career since with the nature of the internet when it comes to social media it's always changing and that makes it hard to stay relevant and eventually they can no longer adapt as their audience gets older and moves on and the new audience most likely isn't interested or perhaps they just get tired themselves and want to move on with their lives. I imagine soon Pewdiepie will retire at some point while he still can I doubt he'd want to end up like h3h3.

 

[Neko GF]

Tommy C doing another interview with Ivory.

Archive (480p):

 

[Cool kitties club]

I think based off of what I've seen so far this situation will go four ways possibly.

Scenario 1:
Pyro keeps ignoring this and keep trying to brush It off and pulls a Mini ladd slowly downward spiraling into irrelevance and resorting to bots to keep his likes up while the comment section is full of people mocking him amongst the bots.

Scenario 2: Pyro actually apologizes (actual apology not stereotypical youtuber apology) for his actions and takes a long break from the platform like a year or half a year or something then comes back and builds back what he lost due to his actions (this scenario is not likely)

Scenario 3: basically scenario 2 but this gets taken to court and he receives a suspended sentence or something.

Scenario 4: Pyro Ignores this and continues on as if nothing ever happened and he loses most of his viewer base because of this but due to a small minority of people still defending him what's left of his viewer base still continues to support him and he is able to keep doing YouTube as a career albeit not as successful as he used to be

Pyro has saved himself multiple times by knowing when to trend hop. He hopped from mlg to leafy style commentary to gaming videos to reddit videos to face cam commentary to video game and movie long form reviews. People in the thread have been charactering Pyro as a dumb coomer when really he is quote smart. He's played the youtube game well enough to gain popularity while ignoring controversy (until now) and he is using memes and disinformation to frame this incident in a way that is favorable to himself. Using plausible deniability has allowed Pyro to shift the discourse from pedophilia to grooming and finally to him just being a gross werido regardless of the facts.

 

[Opposite of a Winner]

I was able to find an archive of one of Ivory's tweets from April 2017 and in the background you can see his bio is the same as the one shown in that July 2017 link embed. I've never seen Twitter link embeds update on Discord and have used them to salvage deleted unarchived tweets.
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https://archive.md/CjPuJ

Well that explains the discord link still saying 16 years old, so any notion that Ivory didn't have their age on their twitter at the time is basically destroyed. Also kudos for the extra context and info on the other shit.


The only thing I still wish though is that the entire conversation is leaked. But even with the cherry picked shit, Pyro needs a like a fucking miracle of context to come out of this which I kind of doubt at this point. Not saying it's impossible but it's as unlikely as Pyro not knowing Ivory's age sort of unlikely.

 

[Velcheetah]

Tommy C doing another interview with Ivory.

I fiddled with the audio so you can actually hear Ivory.

Towards the last third or so of the interview when Tommy talks about people bringing up Ivory's old tweets, Ivory pulls the Tana Mongoose card and says he "didn't understand the impact" of saying nigger and suggests Pyro somehow groomed him into being okay with saying it. Every American knows what the word 'nigger' means, Ivory. You were an edgy teenager in a community of edgelords. That's all that happened. Not every little thing you regret doing happened because you were a victim of something.

The only thing I still wish though is that the entire conversation is leaked. But even with the cherry picked shit, Pyro needs a like a fucking miracle of context to come out of this which I kind of doubt at this point. Not saying it's impossible but it's as unlikely as Pyro not knowing Ivory's age sort of unlikely.

They have been leaked in full through the videos Ivory's posted. They haven't been shared in a way that's easily readable and accessible though. Ivory seriously needs to do something about that. If exporting isn't possible an album of screencaps would work since we already have the video scroll through to compare and verify messages.

 

[BASED-GROYPER-REDDIT-XX29]

Someone responded to tommycs new interview with ivory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umtz89I_BoM

 

[Basement Dwelling Dork]

Towards the last third or so of the interview when Tommy talks about people bringing up Ivory's old tweets, Ivory pulls the Tana Mongoose card and says he "didn't understand the impact" of saying nigger and suggests Pyro somehow groomed him into being okay with saying it. Every American knows what the word 'nigger' means, Ivory. You were an edgy teenager in a community of edgelords. That's all that happened. Not every little thing you regret doing happened because you were a victim of something.

Getting real tired of this shit when it comes to people like Ivory. She hoppef into the edgey uwu degenerate hell hole of roleplaying and just got lucky that pyro was there.

Fuck man I wanted to believe her but now this situation is just a becoming a mindfuck .


I just wanted to make laugh at Pyrocynicals bad cosplay and his fatty fetish.

 

[Burning Fanatic]

Getting real tired of this shit when it comes to people like Ivory. She hoppef into the edgey uwu degenerate hell hole of roleplaying and just got lucky that pyro was there.

Fuck man I wanted to believe her but now this situation is just a becoming a mindfuck .


I just wanted to make laugh at Pyrocynicals bad cosplay and his fatty fetish.

Are you referring to Ivory as a woman?

 

[LavenderMenace]

I fiddled with the audio so you can actually hear Ivory.

Thank you so much for that! I swear Ivory could’ve gotten a good mic. Ivory sounds so fucking high on something....I kinda get the feel that Ivory might be a tad autistic. It takes him a bit to register things...

Towards the last third or so of the interview when Tommy talks about people bringing up Ivory's old tweets, Ivory pulls the Tana Mongoose card and says he "didn't understand the impact" of saying nigger and suggests Pyro somehow groomed him into being okay with saying it. Every American knows what the word 'nigger' means, Ivory. You were an edgy teenager in a community of edgelords. That's all that happened. Not every little thing you regret doing happened because you were a victim of something.

Lol I like how he said he’s an edge lord but didn’t know “how much weight” the word nigger has. He really is a typical teenager...

Also Pyro’s a retard to use the “WELL THEY SAID NIGGER!” argument when he has said “nigga” so many times in the past that you’d think he grew up in Harlem.

Also I wanna remind folks that he dated Hyojin “Sand Nigger/Finger Pointer/Suicide Baiter” Choi for about 3 years....



Overall, I agree with TommyC on a lot of things. Like he said “Pyro’s response was 100% worse than those chat logs and obese pics.” And ya I agree fully on that too.
Pyro lied, tried to make Ivory look bad, got his fucking GF to back him up, and he wanted Ivory to get an illegal ID to drink with once he was flown to London. Yea doesn’t sound weird or suspicious at all...

Personally, a 4 year age gap wouldn’t be a problem with me but when you’re 20-21 and going after a teenager....it looks bad....

What little respect I had left for Pyro just depleted greatly. Lying on the internet is a death sentence to your reputation

 

[brentkanaris]

This situation should serve as a lesson to not live your lives on the internet. I can’t imagine Pyro sees more than 10 hours of sunlight a week, and the degeneracy has pretty much consumed him. Get outside and get some perspective, because some shit you do online and think is inconsequential could come back down the road and bite you in the ass.

If the existence of kiwifarms itself taught me anything is that you never become a eceleb and the internet was a mistake.

 

[Opposite of a Winner]

Yeah this has been a crazy ride. I looked into this thinking Pyro would be innocent like Slazo or ProJared, then thought he was just a creep but at least didn't know Ivory's age to pretty unlikely he didn't know Ivory's age and would need a perfect storm of coincidences to not know.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset this wasn't hidden further or anything for Pyro to walk away from all of this but like out of everyone the person I didn't know about and a smug fugly asshole prove their innocence and the one person who's autistic content I happened to enjoy ends up being a creepy pedo sending degeneracy to minors.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

It really doesn't matter what people dig up now or whatever, because even when this shit is supposedly clearer, this Ivory dickhead STILL manages to make shit a complicated bunch of fuckshit. All I've gotten out of this is a desire to put a bullet in my skull every time I see another one of these fucking dime a dozen drama bullshit channels. Seriously, how the fuck is it a site MEANT for archiving autism and slapfights is less insufferable than a bunch of youtube channels? Maybe it's because there isn't any voices or annoying thumbnails...

 

[LavenderMenace]

out of everyone the person I didn't know about and a smug fugly asshole prove their innocence and the one person who's autistic content I happened to enjoy ends up being a creepy pedo sending degeneracy to minors.

That seems to be a massive theme with big content creators in the past years. Pyro’s content was taking a nose dive since 2018 anyway so I’ve stopped watching him. It’s a shame how hypocritical he’s gotten. He’s even covered drama of people lying and not being able to say “sorry”.

Internet fame is like heroin. When you crash, you crash HARD. And it turns out, the “Everyday Man” isn’t always cut out for popularity and attention.

 

[Opposite of a Winner]

That seems to be a massive theme with big content creators in the past years. Pyro’s content was taking a nose dive since 2018 anyway so I’ve stopped watching him. It’s a shame how hypocritical he’s gotten. He’s even covered drama of people lying and not being able to say “sorry”.

Internet fame is like heroin. When you crash, you crash HARD. And it turns out, the “Everyday Man” isn’t always cut out for popularity and attention.

Well like with all content creators you kind of have to be aware they aren't all that they set out to be. What's the term? "Never meet your hero, they aren't what they make themselves to be."? They mostly get exposed either by some petty peers or themselves from fame getting to their head as being hypocrites, manipulative, etc. Those are bad sure, you kind of see it everyday via drama channels and shit but what you least expect at least what I least expect is them being flat out monsters via pedos and groomers. Eh, maybe I shouldn't be surprised though since it feels like there's a push for "normalizing" sexual behavior with minors, at least with furries anyways which pyro is.

 

[Velcheetah]

I dug into the story behind the TikTok user Sulkaeda who was used as a reference at the very beginning of this shitshow. She posted her video about her friend, Spoopyscaryaliens, and their experience with Pyro on May 9 2019, making her the first person to bring up Pyro's weird behavior with minors.

https://www.tiktok.com/@sulkaeda/video/6689143919340424454

Spoopyscaryaliens is an artist who drew fanart of Pyrocynical in 2016. Pyro reached out to them around August 13 2016 after seeing fanart Spoopy drew of Pyro's fox character curled up with a dakimakura of NFKRZ's character. In the very first messages Pyro sent Spoopy he said "IT'S NOT EVEN THICC." Pyro then immediately asked Spoopy their age. Spoopy said "I'm 15." Pyro would be 19 around this time.

https://archive.md/j4dCb

https://archive.md/UqTcP

8 days later on August 21 Spoopy posted dakimakura style fanart of Pyro's fox character being noticeably chubby and wearing nothing but underwear. In the description they said it's "Pyro approved." Prior to this all of Spoopy's fan art of Pyro had his character being thin and none are this lewd.

https://archive.md/mh1rc

Later in DMs with Sulkaeda Spoopy said Pyro "demanded" they draw fat fetish art for him. The daki piece seems to be the only instance of this though, at least publicly.

https://www.tiktok.com/@sulkaeda/video/6689207223777774854

So Pyro was asking someone he knew was underage to draw lewd borderline fetish art for him and then, according to Sulkaeda, kept pushing for more and more extreme fat fetish art.

This also proves Pyro has no issue asking people's age before starting fetish shit with them.

This behavior of "jokingly / innocently" bringing up his fat fetish with minors also matches what I saw in the other accusers's cases. With AbortionASMR he sent her a sketch of a fat furry, something that could be brushed off as a joke if it didn't go over well, and when she responded with "cute" he jumped into asking if she liked "thicc fur stuff." With Ivory he sent him a drawing of a character that was fat but not obscenely so, a character that wouldn't be out of place in a children's book, and when Ivory responded positively he then ramped it up to the extreme fat fetishism.


After everything with Ivory blew up Sulkaeda put out a second TikTok video clarifying that she and Spoopy weren't hurt and they just see it as a funny story.

https://www.tiktok.com/@sulkaeda/video/6889496182343699718

 

[LavenderMenace]

So Pyro was asking someone he knew was underage to draw lewd borderline fetish art for him and then, according to Sulkaeda, kept pushing for more and more extreme fat fetish art.

This also proves Pyro has no issue asking people's age before starting fetish shit with them.

How fucking hard was it to walk his ass to furaffinity.com and get a commission from an adult???

This cheap ass motherfucker wanted free art and used his popularity to get it.

Niall Comas? More like Niall Cummer!

After everything with Ivory blew up Sulkaeda put out a second TikTok video clarifying that she and Spoopy weren't hurt and they just see it as a funny story.

Funny or not, Pyro used them for free fetish/erotic art and talked about sexual shit to young teens. Of course the teenagers aren't gonna think anything of it until years later!

Guess Turkey Tom is gonna make a part 3....

Well like with all content creators you kind of have to be aware they aren't all that they set out to be. What's the term? "Never meet your hero, they aren't what they make themselves to be."? They mostly get exposed either by some petty peers or themselves from fame getting to their head as being hypocrites, manipulative, etc. Those are bad sure, you kind of see it everyday via drama channels and shit but what you least expect at least what I least expect is them being flat out monsters via pedos and groomers.

Honestly, if someone has more than a million subscribers. Be on guard.

Eh, maybe I shouldn't be surprised though since it feels like there's a push for "normalizing" sexual behavior with minors, at least with furries anyways which pyro is.

Honestly, after Jeffery Epstein got arrested, I feel that a rift happened and people are burning their "dirty laundry" and past activities while waving some offensive shit.

The fact that law abiding furries have stopped associating themselves with other furries because the group is full of schizophrenics, sadists, attention whores, and pedophiles should tell you something....

 

[Spoonomancer]

How fucking hard was it to walk his ass to furaffinity.com and get a commission from an adult???

the problem is that even if Pyro went to do that he'd never hear the end of it even if Pyro intended his fat fetishism to be a secret.

one redeeming (for lack of better terminology) quality fellow lolcow BetaEtaDelota has is that he at least sort of owns up to his inflation fetishism.