Posadism - apocalyptic space communism

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What do you think would happen if a serious posadist party managed to take over a country?

Here's a fun explanation of posadism courtesy of @EmuWarsVeteran :
Honestly if there's one thing no one would ever predict or know how to counter it's a genuine possadist uprising. That's the kinda shit that would topple the entire world as we know it. But I still will have to recommend against it, 'cause oooh boy it would in fact collapse the planet, but not in any pleasant way.

For those that don't know, Possadism, an ideology called that way 'cause it was created by some guy called Posadas, is a branch of commie accelerationism which wanted to cause WW3 so as to cleanse humanity with nuclear fire. The reason why is that they thought UFO's were real and, and I quote, "obviously, ufo's must be manned by communist aliens, because no capitalist society could ever master space travel", you know, obviously, no explanation needed for that one. And they thought the nuclear apocalypse would cause the dolphins (who in their view are telepathic and more intelligent than humans... Because of course.) to call said aliens to sweep away the survivors into their heavenly interplanetary marxist paradise.

You know. A sane ideology that totally makes sense.

I must, I must now emphasized, if you hadn't heard of possadism before. No this isn't a parody nor a strawman nor is possadism from some fantasy novel or some shit like that. This is a genuine ideology that is still followed by 1 political party on the planet and which amassed followers during the cold war and if grown could have become a serious threat to the entire planet, this shit's a real fucking thing that happened. Some crazy iberoamerican mofo apparently read Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy while high as fuck and somehow got a cult following out of it
Wikipedia info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_International_Posadist
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Possadism is just left wing, anti-industrial accelerationism. It's more an avenue for change that anything else, at this point the term is a cold war era relic only maintained because of it's memetic power and how it expresses the views of many jaded people who hate the current system.
I wouldn't get too caught up in the nuclear specifics or aliens because that's not the point, it's just to catch people and get them to talk about it. When you boil something down to "durr aliens" and "durr nukes", you're not really giving it fair discussion as a concept because the framing is silly.
 
Possadism is just left wing, anti-industrial accelerationism. It's more an avenue for change that anything else, at this point the term is a cold war era relic only maintained because of it's memetic power and how it expresses the views of many jaded people who hate the current system.
I wouldn't get too caught up in the nuclear specifics or aliens because that's not the point, it's just to catch people and get them to talk about it. When you boil something down to "durr aliens" and "durr nukes", you're not really giving it fair discussion as a concept because the framing is silly.
What kind of change were they trying to make that didn't involve nukes and aliens?

I seriously want to read some manuscripts, I can't find them anywhere. I can legit find Neo-Nazi mysticism sources more than Possadism.
Have you tried searching in Spanish? Here's the official website of the Possadist party of Uruguay:
There's also a book about the topic, it might contain some manuscripts.

I found a site in English that doesn't appear to be the work of trolls:
 
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What kind of change were they trying to make that didn't involve nukes and aliens?


Have you tried searching in Spanish? Here's the official website of the Possadist party of Uruguay:
There's also a book about the topic, it might contain some manuscripts.
Dang, can't read Spainish.

Yeah the 'I want to believe' ,that's the one I'm been looking at but should I buy it?
 
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What kind of change were they trying to make that didn't involve nukes and aliens?
It's conceptual it just believes that nukes would be the fastest way to collapse society so they go with that.
Possadism is not a serious ideology anybody believes, people may say it to communicate they want to accelerate.
They peaked in the 1950s when they were fighting alongside Castro and Che particularly cause there was no Trotskyist faction and they generally agree with the cause, only getting kicked out aftering being accused by the USSR of arguing with the government. Since then it's been a constant decline with only a recent memetic renewal as a result of the internet and just how strange it is. Even right wing accelerationism has a lot more literature and development.

There's really not much to say besides "those crazy commies", and in reality it's probably like maybe 2 or 3 genuine ones along with dozens of ironic shitposters.
 
Dang, can't read Spainish.

Yeah the 'I want to believe' ,that's the one I'm been looking at but should I buy it?
I'm gonna, for sure. I'm dying to learn more about the history of this thing.

It's conceptual it just believes that nukes would be the fastest way to collapse society so they go with that.
Possadism is not a serious ideology anybody believes, people may say it to communicate they want to accelerate.
They peaked in the 1950s when they were fighting alongside Castro and Che particularly cause there was no Trotskyist faction and they generally agree with the cause, only getting kicked out aftering being accused by the USSR of arguing with the government. Since then it's been a constant decline with only a recent memetic renewal as a result of the internet and just how strange it is. Even right wing accelerationism has a lot more literature and development.

There's really not much to say besides "those crazy commies", and in reality it's probably like maybe 2 or 3 genuine ones along with dozens of ironic shitposters.
What about Monteirism? Same thing?
 
Possadism is just left wing, anti-industrial accelerationism. It's more an avenue for change that anything else, at this point the term is a cold war era relic only maintained because of it's memetic power and how it expresses the views of many jaded people who hate the current system.
I wouldn't get too caught up in the nuclear specifics or aliens because that's not the point, it's just to catch people and get them to talk about it. When you boil something down to "durr aliens" and "durr nukes", you're not really giving it fair discussion as a concept because the framing is silly.
TLDR: it can't possibly be more retarded than vanilla communism.

Thanks, APC.
 
If they don't take it seriously, neither should normal people either.

Oh they're firmly a meme ideology. I mean, somehow, some FUCKING how there's still 1 political party following it, but thankfully they're fairly minor, and no one else takes them seriously. I mean, the memes here are real, people. Even within the confines of the already wacky as ball political currents that made up cold war accelerationism. These guys thought they could telepathically communicate with dolphins, and that the dolphins were telling them to end the human race so they could summon interstellar communists. I don't think I need to explain why they're just pure meme material. Even the fucking Nazbols knew better than this. And nazbols were already fucking funny. But even they look at this shit and laugh their ass off.
 
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Back in the old country we'd take people like that out to the back yard and whip them with a rubber hose.
 
The Posadistas publish[ed?] a newspaper in Britain called Red Flag and attempted entryism in the Labour Party in the 1970s.
Everyone and his dog attempted entryism into Labour back then, so that doesn't make an ideology which would have its own board if it was a person any more special.
 
On the right you have ever further purity spirals where you need ever longer family trees to prove your pedigree. On the left you have ever further delusion spirals where the game is who can piss his fantasy the farthest.

Possadist space communism will be trumped by neomarxian zero point anarchism.
 
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