What happened to being well-dressed?

[Foltest]

It depends for me. I like to dress with shirt and some nice chinos when I am at the office, but because of rona, have been working from home and I dress really casual. When I go out, I try to dress as nice as possible.

 

[Lamby Lams]

It's a combination of times changing and people being more open. A lot of people dress for themselves now, and that is socially acceptable. I think that clothes are a very important part of self-expression, so I can understand why anyone would get upset when someone underdresses for a special occasion. Like I really don't get how you can just roll up to church in your pajamas. Nowadays I really don't care, but in retrospect, I think we've reached an all-time low in terms of historical fashion.

 

[Kartoshki]

How "nice" are you referring to, OP? I don't really see a reason to wear anything more than a polo or casual button-up shirt with a pair of chinos when I go out, unless I'm attending a symphonic concert, musical, or something similar. On just a regular night out, though? Screw it, find yourself a balance of looking presentable and being comfy.

 

[Seventh Star]

According to Hobsbawm, it's a reversal of an old social order. Before, the poor would attempt to dress like the rich, but around the fifties, the rich wanted to dress and behave like the poor. Even the middle class would try to emulate these working classes, so it led to the adoption of jeans.

 

[Letora]

The future is athleisure.

I think we should value clothes that are modern and higher tech: clothes that you can comfortably sweat in; that are flexible and don't inhibit your movement and ability to react, like suits and dresses made with scratchy, delicate fabrics did.

 

[Brahma]

The future is athleisure.

I think we should value clothes that are modern and higher tech: clothes that you can comfortably sweat in; that are flexible and don't inhibit your movement and ability to react, like suits and dresses made with scratchy, delicate fabrics did.

That's what athletics clothing is supposed to be for sure, but most athleisure wearers aren't working up a healthy sweat and they only thing they react to is their insulin going missing.

So much of fashion is just larping. Tweed is going through something of a renaissance and you just know none of those fuckers have ever been out on a moor shooting.

Military dress uniform ackets a few years ago the same thing

 

[augment]

Times change, also the type of place and income influence it. At the moment yes it's looking a lot like rodeo clowns meet 4-year-old in grown up size clothing is the way to go but who knows what it will change into tomorrow.

 

[Dom Cruise]

In the age of Amazon, Netflix, etc and especially in most recent times, people leave the house less and when you leave the house less you find it harder to work up the care to dress well when you do go out.

 

[CapricornusRex]

I don't really mind the obsession with dressing as poorly as possible, but can people please stop wearing their smelly pajamas outside? It's not a corona thing either, it's been the last 4-5 years where people are just showing up everywhere wearing their pajamas. My work had to put in a dress code to keep people from showing up in their smelly, stained pajama pants.

 

[BlazikenLover]

Mom always remarks to my siblings and I how we should dress "well" or "how you want others to see you", she didn't have much money when she married but still tried to dress well for work.
Another time dad told me about how one of his grandfathers would wear a suit everyday, and he worked at the port doing manual labor. Everyone got the impression he worked at an office or similar.
Last year I went to a job interview and one of the superiors there was wearing a very discoloured t-shirt, jogging pants (also worn down and with holes) and either sandals or flipflops, dude looked like he would be more at home selling friendship bracelets at a park or beach. I was in disbelief since sitting next to him was another superior wearing a dress shirt, pants and shoes. They were day and night.
At current work it is a mixed bag, older guys tend to wear shirts and dress pants or the like. Younger guys go more casual but at least don't go with discoloured shirts full of holes. Lastly the older fat ones dress with worn t-shirts which I sorta get, must be a pain getting clothes on their size.
Personally I follow my parents advice, except on summer, sure the building may be air conditioned but the bus ride home will leave my shirt drenched, so I'd rather wear a polo t-shirt during those 40°c days. Lastly what I might skip on at the moment are fancy shoes, but thats because I value comfort when it comes to them, and I have a really hard time finding comfortable footwear.

 

[Fishious Rend]

In the age of Amazon, Netflix, etc and especially in most recent times, people leave the house less and when you leave the house less you find it harder to work up the care to dress well when you do go out.

that and you could spend money it better places, compared to a suit you would use like once or twice.

 

[Pissmaster]

The future is athleisure.

I think we should value clothes that are modern and higher tech: clothes that you can comfortably sweat in; that are flexible and don't inhibit your movement and ability to react, like suits and dresses made with scratchy, delicate fabrics did.

Behold, the future of fashion:

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Personally, I don't care how others dress for the most part. However, I expect the same courtesy, which I do not get a lot of the time (sadly). I've dealt with many catty comments from people and my appearance in recent years.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not dolled up 24/7 (I'm typing this as I am wearing a giant 20 year-old sweatshirt and sweatpants). When I run quick errands, I just want to get the damn errand done and over with, so I don't dress up for that; ponytail and sweatpants it is. In fact, 2020 has me wearing pajamas most of the time these days. When I do go out, though, I want to look nice. And there have been some days this year where I've had the urge to doll up a bit just to make myself feel nice and to feel good about myself. For me, it's an absolute mood booster when I put effort into my appearance.

Last year, around this time, I dolled up a little bit for a date night with my husband to one of our favorite restaurants/breweries. I wore a black turtleneck with a wool skirt, some winter boots, and put a little piece of fake holly in my hair (because Christmastime). Not the most glamourous or fancy thing ever, right? Just something cozy and cute for a Wintertime date night. The bartender that night (a woman) was very snarky at me from the get-go, saying something along the lines of "what black tie affair are YOU headed to after this?" You know, the basic condescending crap that a lot of women are notorious for.

When a wool skirt is considered "too dolled up" for a date night at a restaurant, then you know the culture has changed for the lazier. Not that I expect for people to be super fancy or anything ... But in recent years, the bar keeps getting lower for what "overdressed" means. A nice pair of jeans paired with boots and a clean sweater is now considered too fancy these days. Crazy!

"Current Year" fashion is so uninspired, bland, and ugly. Even at the start of the 2010's, there were some cute fashion trends (form fitting sweaterdresses come to mind, for example). I don't think that clothes serve as a form of individualism or self-expression anymore; at least not collectively. Most people's wardrobes these days all look the damn same, and most of it is all from the same stores (Wal-Mart, Target, Amazon, etc.). If you're upper class, it's all about the designer logo you are wearing. If you're middle or lower class, it's all about the pop culture references on your shirt. We're living in a time where actual STYLE has taken a backseat, and I'm not here for it. Not for me, at least.

 

[JokahBaybee]

Do you really want things like the 90's swing revival to come back?
Bros in zoot suits and shit?

Yes.

 

[JokahBaybee]

The 70s attitude towards suits should come back IMO.
Since the suit is dead and business casual killed it, I think it's about time the pendulum swung back to taking the suit and having fun with it.
First, the Bush-era liberals stigmatized it into being only for stodgy bureaucrats, then the Obama-era libs bastardized it with the whole hipster fedora shit, and don't even get me started on how women's "suits" took all the cute little nuances of men's suits and went out of their way to fuck them up for no reason, like forgoing the surgeon's cuffs, faking all the pockets, and PUTTING DRAWSTRINGS ON THE TROUSERS.
Like even if some musician or something is wearing a proper 2 piece (forget the 3 pieces because waistcoats are "old-fashioned"), they don't bother wearing a shirt, tie, or even something so sensible as a turtleneck, no, they wear a t-shirt because "muh formality contrast" and "muh anti-authority contrarianism"

 

[StarkRavingMad]

The 70s attitude towards suits should come back IMO.
Since the suit is dead and business casual killed it, I think it's about time the pendulum swung back to taking the suit and having fun with it.
First, the Bush-era liberals stigmatized it into being only for stodgy bureaucrats, then the Obama-era libs bastardized it with the whole hipster fedora shit, and don't even get me started on how women's "suits" took all the cute little nuances of men's suits and went out of their way to fuck them up for no reason, like forgoing the surgeon's cuffs, faking all the pockets, and PUTTING DRAWSTRINGS ON THE TROUSERS.
Like even if some musician or something is wearing a proper 2 piece (forget the 3 pieces because waistcoats are "old-fashioned"), they don't bother wearing a shirt, tie, or even something so sensible as a turtleneck, no, they wear a t-shirt because "muh formality contrast" and "muh anti-authority contrarianism"

You just know that current fashion has become a Hindenburg when you have resorted to buying most of your clothes via Etsy or thrift shopping.

For the past four years, I have relied mostly on thrifted clothing. Clothes just looked nicer even 15 years ago. They were better made and last a lot longer, too.

 

[Kosher Dill]

forgoing the surgeon's cuffs

Were surgeon's cuffs ever commonly worn outside the "Look At Me I Have Money" crowd?

 

[JokahBaybee]

Were surgeon's cuffs ever commonly worn outside the "Look At Me I Have Money" crowd?

I'm pretty sure surgeons cuffs are on every suit.
What you may be talking about are french cuffs, which are for shirt sleeves, and require fancy cufflinks to fasten together.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I'm pretty sure surgeons cuffs are on every suit.

Usually they're only called that if they're working buttons like the ones in your picture. The vast majority of suits just have ornamental buttons sewn on.
Leaving one button unbuttoned (also like in your picture) is the way to say "Look At Me I Have Money", by showing off your working buttons.

 

[Maurice Caine]

The 70s attitude towards suits should come back IMO.
Since the suit is dead and business casual killed it, I think it's about time the pendulum swung back to taking the suit and having fun with it.
First, the Bush-era liberals stigmatized it into being only for stodgy bureaucrats, then the Obama-era libs bastardized it with the whole hipster fedora shit, and don't even get me started on how women's "suits" took all the cute little nuances of men's suits and went out of their way to fuck them up for no reason, like forgoing the surgeon's cuffs, faking all the pockets, and PUTTING DRAWSTRINGS ON THE TROUSERS.
Like even if some musician or something is wearing a proper 2 piece (forget the 3 pieces because waistcoats are "old-fashioned"), they don't bother wearing a shirt, tie, or even something so sensible as a turtleneck, no, they wear a t-shirt because "muh formality contrast" and "muh anti-authority contrarianism"

I don't think people would wear those ugly 70's suit monstrosities such as Al Pacino in Scarface wore.

Jesus, the 50's and 60's did it better.