US ATF Decision Could Lead to Biggest Gun Registration, Turn-in Effort in American History - Agency's vague AR-15 pistol standards could affect millions

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New guidance from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) could put millions of Americans in legal jeopardy.

The ATF published a notice Thursday that could require millions of AR-15 pistols and similar firearms—which are designed with braces that strap on to a shooter's forearm—to be either registered, turned in, destroyed, or dismantled. But the standards laid out for determining the devices' legality, such as caliber or weight, provide no objective measures, and the agency said it may also use undisclosed factors to judge the legality of the devices.

The agency conceded in the notice that some pistol braces are legal and should not be subject to the registration or destruction requirement. It said, however, that it could not provide a blanket determination for which pistols, or braces with which they're often equipped, are legal and said it would have to examine each gun "on a case-by-case basis." That means owners of the vast majority of the estimated three to four million AR-15 pistols and similar firearms may have to register with the ATF.

Second Amendment advocates were up in arms over the proposed rule, saying the uncertain legal status could destroy several businesses that make pistol braces and harm the gun industry. Erich Pratt, senior vice president of Gun Owners of America (GOA), said the subjective nature of the guidance shows that the "ATF has gone off into the deep end."

"GOA will rally the grassroots to fight these regulations, and if they eventually go into effect, we will commence immediate legal action to protect gun owners," Pratt said in a statement.

The controversy stems from how federal law distinguishes between short-barrel rifles and shotguns, both of which must be registered and require a $200 tax stamp, and pistols that do not require either. The key component is whether a firearm is designed to be pressed against the shooter's shoulder. Since 2012, the ATF has classified several guns with braces designed to strap to a shooter's forearm as pistols. The agency's Boston field office called that interpretation into question in August after sending a cease and desist letter to one manufacturer. The agency ordered a review in October following intervention from the White House.

Neither the ATF nor the White House responded to a request for comment.

The notice said the agency plans to waive the $200 tax for those registering the affected firearms during a grace period to be announced later. The public has two weeks to offer comment on the ATF notice before it goes into effect.




I'm kinda pissed about this as I bought a ZPAP 92 and brought it to a gunsmith to have a brace fitted and now my gun is stuck in this gay limbo.
 
The answer is simple: shoot any person attempting to confiscate or register your firearms. And don't stop shooting until you've won or you're dead.
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(I won't lie, I chuckled. It's like seeing an old friend.)
 
Just like i've always said, those AR/AK pistols are dumb as shit and the smart move is to get a real sbr with a tax stamp.

I have the right to buy dumb guns. If the Feds wanted to ban these things or put them under a tax stamp they should have done so before three million of them were sold. Stop advocating for the ATF.

Section nine of the first article of the US Constitution;

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

Fuck this policy. Don't give them an inch.
 
I have the right to buy dumb guns. If the Feds wanted to ban these things or put them under a tax stamp they should have done so before three million of them were sold. Stop advocating for the ATF.

Section nine of the first article of the US Constitution;



Fuck this policy. Don't give them an inch.

Is this your first time buying a gun? Everyone I know who wanted fancy toys set up a legal charter or whatever it's called before the new tax stamp rules went into place.
Best to buy your silencers now before a midnight change in the regulations when Biden gets foisted into the white house. smart people are smart because they can work around the rule.
 
You could also just remove the brace since it's attached to a buffer tube anyway like all AR15 pistols

The problem is these companies pushed the limits are openly flouted the law

Nobody thinks this thing is anything other than a stock

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The atf goes back and forth if having the stock on your cheek or shoulder is illegal or not. someone here said it's legal now. But this shit and the 3d printing autosear doofuses are going to make the government regulate 3d printers soon.
 
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