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What did he mean by this?
Artcow Jonathan Wojcik / Bogleech / Scythemantis
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You're actually one of only maybe four people I've tried to get through to that hard, because one day you just suddenly showed up in my comments with the most melodramatic rage-fueled rant ever sent to me:
This wouldn't be a big deal if it were based on anything real, like getting angry at me for believing in Climate Change (as Kajm does), but what you're saying here is like your own bizarro fantasy version of me.
You posted this in 2018 and I've never once begun to figure out what situation you're bringing up when you think I white knighted someone for "romantic attention" on the internet. Who did you think that was and when? Your stuff about anglerfish makes you sound like one of those incels who blames women for everything they disagree with, and you seem to think self-deprecation and pessimism are real sentiments rather than humor gimmicks...you don't think whomp is supposed to reflect the author for real, do you?
In I think another comment like this one, as well as another comment you made in this very thread, you wanted to think there's something scandalous or hypocritical about me ever drawing tits, being friends with smut artists or having that hentai monster blog way back when, because you genuinely seem to believe the /pol/ meme strawman of the sex-hating libruhl and you think I've ever posted anything that aligns with that. You don't have to be a puritan to dump on bad fanservice anime.
You're also one of a couple people who vehemently think I became """SJW""" only recently, even saying in the above post that I've been bitching at people for "ten years." It's been over 20 years, at least get that right! It's been the whole time I've used the internet, and it was only "worse" before you heard of me; in my teens I used to spend hours straight spamming Republican chatrooms with the most hateful shit I could think of.
But while I think I've grown up a lot since then, yes, I still just plain enjoy saying so when I think someone's politics are mean and stupid, like everyone does. There are some liberal trends I think are stupid too, but nobody right now is more ridiculous than the American right-wing. Come on... those are people who raged on national television about a paper cup from Starbucks. They're still really doing "they took our jobs!" in 2020. They think pandemic safety is somehow a global domination plot by Hillary Clinton. What side of that are you on if you're finding me more offensive, and so much that you went out of your way to come yell at me on a Deviantart gallery?
Yeah that's not a real person.
I'm not sure what people mean when they worry about "bias" in reviews of something inherently subjective, that's kind of the only point. You review stuff like characters, songs or paintings to share your private tastes for fun.
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BLASTERRIFLE
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there is no way, no way you can say republicans are more ridiculous than democrats in America at this point.
listen, I hate politics and I think the red hat thing is kind of cringe. They question power and it leads to silly conspiracies and stuff. It’s goofy. I get that. But I refuse to believe you’re this biased or ignorant of how batshit insane people, especially young people have been for the last five+ years
at what point did the period blood cookie eating, penis chopping, 1312, 500 lb acceptance, piss throwing, cancel culture, eternal victim, satanic temple hot topic goths become less ridiculous? I mean, all the republicans are just evil right? Like Voldemort? And like the nazis? Remember them? It’s ok to punch them.
The democrats are just as, or even more silly. There is NO WAY you are actually this biased. I refuse to believe you aren’t smart enough to see where republicans are coming from at least half the time when they have criticisms during this political climate.
There are young tumblr university student women, ones you might talk to every day, with blue hair, piercings, their own art pages and tattoos that go vote trump and if you can’t think of one reason why they might, in good heart, vote that way, even if you disagree, it might be a time to look at yourself and ask how am I biased and what am I not understanding about these people or myself
listen, I hate politics and I think the red hat thing is kind of cringe. They question power and it leads to silly conspiracies and stuff. It’s goofy. I get that. But I refuse to believe you’re this biased or ignorant of how batshit insane people, especially young people have been for the last five+ years
at what point did the period blood cookie eating, penis chopping, 1312, 500 lb acceptance, piss throwing, cancel culture, eternal victim, satanic temple hot topic goths become less ridiculous? I mean, all the republicans are just evil right? Like Voldemort? And like the nazis? Remember them? It’s ok to punch them.
The democrats are just as, or even more silly. There is NO WAY you are actually this biased. I refuse to believe you aren’t smart enough to see where republicans are coming from at least half the time when they have criticisms during this political climate.
There are young tumblr university student women, ones you might talk to every day, with blue hair, piercings, their own art pages and tattoos that go vote trump and if you can’t think of one reason why they might, in good heart, vote that way, even if you disagree, it might be a time to look at yourself and ask how am I biased and what am I not understanding about these people or myself
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You're kinda late on the upkeep dude.
Dude, there's no way you can be this biased.
You mention exactly two real, actual trends here that really affect the world in any meaningful way: cancel culture and anti-police rhetoric.
Cancel culture just as often affects the deserving, like Cosby or Schneider, and isn't even a left-wing phenomenon; look how the right reacts every time they find out that someone they like is pro-choice or doesn't love guns.
And you can't deny innumerable things are broken about our law enforcement and penal system. We're spending billions of dollars to put away more nonviolent offenders than anything else, leaving families in shambles and worsening poverty which in turn worsens crime.
Beyond those two issues with measurable consequences, you pad out your case with meaninglessly niche weirdness. I never even heard of the blood cookie thing until now, and googling it, I find it's just another fringe trend that got some viral news stories a while back, like most things people think are Millenial or Liberal or Zoomer or whatever they're fake-mad about. What's it actually matter to you if people eat blood or accept being fat? They're not voting to make you eat blood or get fat, the only scenario in which it would make sense to care.
You say you hate politics so maybe you don't actually pay them enough attention to see what does, conversely, trend with the "mainstream" right. Look at the thousands of supportive comments on any of Trump's tweets, or any of the GOP to see examples; these people almost all see undocumented immigrants as criminal scum who deserve harsh and swift punishment, rather than casualties of an immigration system in dire need of repair and streamlining, and anyone who tries to explain the difference to them gets called a marxist. In the ongoing controversy of police brutality they get almost breathlessly defensive of every police action, as if every single victim is either a "thug" who had it coming or just a normal, inevitable, trivial mistake made by Valiant Heroes. They seethed with public rage at people just not standing up all the way for a damn song. They overwhelmingly believed for years that trans people were going to hide in bathrooms to molest children. Abortion hysteria, the "war on Christmas"....not to rip you off here but there's no way, no way you can think anyone else is more ridiculous, or that you can think any of these views come from a sincere place.
It sounds overall like you've spent too much time with people who still believe Blue Haired Tumblrinas™ are a real thing to be mad at, and I mean, you even told me there are hair-dyed women voting for Trump as if you genuinely thought that would defy my world view, which is bewildering if not kind of crazy. Why would you expect that to ever be new, noteworthy information to anyone, unless you spent enough time in an insulated enough bubble to have somehow found it surprising yourself?
Even the way you use the word "Democrats" is eye-opening. You disagree with my criticism of conservatives, and you counter that with criticism of "democrats" as if you really think things as loosely related as feminism and #BLM are all "democrats," which you really think is the "opposite side of the coin" to conservatism, which it isn't.
The actual reality is that a huge swathe of Americans all worship variations on the same God and trend towards the same stances on a list of very hot-button topics. If someone's greatest fear is losing access to guns, you can often expect them to also be pro-life and think the border wall is a good idea, even though there's no real common thread between those topics. The Republican Party's main strategy is to pander to these values as emotionally as possible, package them as patriotism and dramatize the evil, menacing, un-american nature of those who feel differently, pushing a narrative that your vote is a badge of moral righteousness.
The democratic party, meanwhile, has NOTHING, no core values, no specific convictions at all, other than just "we're not those other guys." By being the only other party with a chance of winning, they can scoop up almost every single other voting demographic, every person who has any reason to not want another Bush or Trump in power, and they do so not by offering an actual alternative or "opposite" of the conservative view, but a merely "less absolute" one. Their stance on guns is that they may discuss SOME reform. Their stance on abortion is that they just won't necessarily stop you. They are not the "other side of the coin," they're just monopolizing the votes of the desperate.
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Seriously dude I really tough you learned that bogleech have a overly simplistic view of life. You can't admit he's a spergy lost case and then act all flabbergasted when bog sprout his dumb opinion on how all republican are literally satan, because if that the case you're just exceptional as him.
@Baglunch @Hepativore Bog the screencap you got despite being pissy isn't that horrifying, he even mark a point on the fact your wasting your time at arguing at rando. Also hep do you have screencap? Because I can get some but his account got tempban
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probably because he was harrasing non stop poeple he didn't agree with.. it was the only thing he was doing on deviantart
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Thought you meant Herp,not to be an ass, but your writing is very confusing at times.
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Let me see...I still have the deviantArt ones...
I deleted the conversation that he sent me here on Kiwi Farms as it was just more of the same, and I did not think it was interesting enough to save nor did I think that I was the only one he PMed here. Notice how he goes right to the language of "alt-right" and "neonazi" at the slightest bit of disagreement when I never claimed to be on the political right or affiliated with any sort of white supremacist group whatsoever. Anyway, this was a massive one-sided conversation on his part as I had no desire to have a sequel to the Kajim-Bogleech spaz-out.
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this is honestly one of the strangest threads on this website, I feel like i'd need a flowchart on tumblr drama to get a good understanding of what's actually happening here.
Honestly, reading through this made me more sympathetic to bogleech than I was beforehand. Here he just seems like an odd guy with paranoia issues, a lot chiller than he normally seems on his tumblr. I'd probably be testy too if I had to deal with all this petty bullshit.
Honestly, reading through this made me more sympathetic to bogleech than I was beforehand. Here he just seems like an odd guy with paranoia issues, a lot chiller than he normally seems on his tumblr. I'd probably be testy too if I had to deal with all this petty bullshit.
I'm actually pretty sure every single person with an active "grudge" against me has now been in this thread, except maybe two, and I'm not sure if one of them was ever a real guy or someone's roleplay act.
I'm just speculating because it's usually the /r/edpill people who rave about "the female gender" and other lingo you were using.
You know, I might be melodramatic in my PM's, we've long established that here, and I have a tendency to send another, similar message when I don't get a response or "talk to myself" one-sidedly, but look at this from my perspective a second:
I know you as a regular, friendly, casual guy who chats with me a little bit, you disappear for ten years, then you show up only to drop a chunk of crazed, bitter fuming on me and disappear again. Not only that, but said fuming centers heavily on a "white knighting" incident that straight-up never happened. It's SUCH a specific accusation to make and you sound like you really, really stewed over it, but no matter how I ask for any sort of clarification you ignore me altogether. You're in here another couple of years later, doubling down on your bitterness, and still won't clear up this specific incident that angered you so much. The mystery is maddening! WHO did you think had been flirting with me on the internet when some kind of drama broke out?? Did I miss something fun...???!
I'm just speculating because it's usually the /r/edpill people who rave about "the female gender" and other lingo you were using.
You know, I might be melodramatic in my PM's, we've long established that here, and I have a tendency to send another, similar message when I don't get a response or "talk to myself" one-sidedly, but look at this from my perspective a second:
I know you as a regular, friendly, casual guy who chats with me a little bit, you disappear for ten years, then you show up only to drop a chunk of crazed, bitter fuming on me and disappear again. Not only that, but said fuming centers heavily on a "white knighting" incident that straight-up never happened. It's SUCH a specific accusation to make and you sound like you really, really stewed over it, but no matter how I ask for any sort of clarification you ignore me altogether. You're in here another couple of years later, doubling down on your bitterness, and still won't clear up this specific incident that angered you so much. The mystery is maddening! WHO did you think had been flirting with me on the internet when some kind of drama broke out?? Did I miss something fun...???!
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sad I tried to be sympathetic in the first place now. Just wandering and the people from your old friendships (?) are right. I didn’t even vote for trump and again, I really don’t like politics (I shouldn’t have to say this twice) but you’re kind of an obtuse gargoyle. People can probably tell by looking at you and listening to the way you talk about other people and ideas anyways though (since my last post didn’t quite register with you obviously).
pretty ashamed to say the people here are right about you and I was hopeful for no reason at all other than blind faith that you’d be more understanding of different ideas and maybe come to new conclusions or agreements. (you’re not and you probably won’t. Political parties and ideas aren’t sports teams like you think they are.).. mental illness or not you really need to work on yourself. I kind of see kiwi farms as a distasteful place where people paint their nails and gossip like catty old ladies. I try and criticize rather than talk shit; but alas you’re not that far off from chris-chan at this point, besides maybe your artistic talent.
If you have your new patreon or whatever to run I think people will see the way you talk about others on your public blogs and any kind of professionalism you try to maintain will be crammed further into the trash than it already has. It’s time to start blaming yourself for your interpersonal failures instead of the government, the people around you or your mental illness.
pretty ashamed to say the people here are right about you and I was hopeful for no reason at all other than blind faith that you’d be more understanding of different ideas and maybe come to new conclusions or agreements. (you’re not and you probably won’t. Political parties and ideas aren’t sports teams like you think they are.).. mental illness or not you really need to work on yourself. I kind of see kiwi farms as a distasteful place where people paint their nails and gossip like catty old ladies. I try and criticize rather than talk shit; but alas you’re not that far off from chris-chan at this point, besides maybe your artistic talent.
If you have your new patreon or whatever to run I think people will see the way you talk about others on your public blogs and any kind of professionalism you try to maintain will be crammed further into the trash than it already has. It’s time to start blaming yourself for your interpersonal failures instead of the government, the people around you or your mental illness.
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If I remember well the first time bogleech made account here, he attacked an user for sprouting ''falsehood''. The way you spoke I tought it was you but it's another user
@BLASTERRIFLE Being unprofessional and having a bad reputation can lower his financial gain but you know what will really throw a brick in his money maker? A promised paper rpg funded via kickstarter that get never finished. But it too soon to tell
I've never used up money that was meant for a kickstart project. If I died all the sudden they'd still release it digitally, and if everyone but me died I'd be capable at this point of finishing and releasing it on my own. The only way the RPG can fall through now is if everyone dies simultaneously.
(incidentally I've had the patreon for 6 years and everybody knows what I'm about.....also I never personally knew anyone in this thread as more than just some other blogger or artist)
"Political parties and ideas aren't sports teams" is.....exactly the message I was trying to communicate to you in my last response, when I explained to you that it doesn't make sense to use "Democrats" as an umbrella term for all these different things you find offensive. You talk as if there are, indeed, two opposing sports teams with equivalent homogeneous values here.
You also seem to admittedly not care how politics actually impact people as much as you care about people - whether #MAGA or #smashthepatriarchy - simply being "annoying on the internet" or looking silly. The red hats spent four years pretty much calling for the blood of everyone who dares to speak Spanish on our soil and you only called them "kind of embarrassing." Why even form as much of an opinion as you're giving me here, if real ife generally matters that little?
But, you're the guy who also got mad at me pages back because I mocked someone on tumblr for saying an ethnic group should stop breeding. I kinda thought up to that point that you were fairly reasonable, but if you don't think their statement was SCREAMINGLY deranged and you're more bothered by my reaction to them, something must be really, really wrong with your social life. Normal people don't just casually think another race should die out for being poor. You're getting emotionally worked up here because pf how you think I "treat people," but then what the heck was that person doing first? They treated other people like dirt, so I said something, where's the problem?
(incidentally I've had the patreon for 6 years and everybody knows what I'm about.....also I never personally knew anyone in this thread as more than just some other blogger or artist)
"Political parties and ideas aren't sports teams" is.....exactly the message I was trying to communicate to you in my last response, when I explained to you that it doesn't make sense to use "Democrats" as an umbrella term for all these different things you find offensive. You talk as if there are, indeed, two opposing sports teams with equivalent homogeneous values here.
You also seem to admittedly not care how politics actually impact people as much as you care about people - whether #MAGA or #smashthepatriarchy - simply being "annoying on the internet" or looking silly. The red hats spent four years pretty much calling for the blood of everyone who dares to speak Spanish on our soil and you only called them "kind of embarrassing." Why even form as much of an opinion as you're giving me here, if real ife generally matters that little?
But, you're the guy who also got mad at me pages back because I mocked someone on tumblr for saying an ethnic group should stop breeding. I kinda thought up to that point that you were fairly reasonable, but if you don't think their statement was SCREAMINGLY deranged and you're more bothered by my reaction to them, something must be really, really wrong with your social life. Normal people don't just casually think another race should die out for being poor. You're getting emotionally worked up here because pf how you think I "treat people," but then what the heck was that person doing first? They treated other people like dirt, so I said something, where's the problem?
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Yeah that was the one I had to agree with you. That was what got Blasterrifle angry at you?
That's the impression I got, anyway. That blogger said something like "people living in shitholes should be kind enough to stop reproducing," I said that was sick ass racism that doesn't belong on social media or something along those lines. Maybe he doesn't agree with their sentiment but thinks I'm an SJW asshole for blasting them on my blog, but, they can't post something that harsh to a site that big without accepting the likelihood of backlash.
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this thread right now
@Fromtheblackdepths I feel bogleech isn't telling the whole story. The OP may have said it in a more nuanced way, like starving african family shouldn't have 6+ children due to lack of ressource or poor people should focus more on education than pop babies and bogleech just took it literally as appeal to genocide. Or maybe in the end blasterrifle was just annoyed that bog was screaming on his blog for the 5th time this day
@Fromtheblackdepths I feel bogleech isn't telling the whole story. The OP may have said it in a more nuanced way, like starving african family shouldn't have 6+ children due to lack of ressource or poor people should focus more on education than pop babies and bogleech just took it literally as appeal to genocide. Or maybe in the end blasterrifle was just annoyed that bog was screaming on his blog for the 5th time this day
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It was this one,can't see the 'insert' though,so you're going to have to click on it.