The Confederate Flag

[*Asterisk*]

Woah saw some Max Hardcore facts being thrown around and now I know you fags have gone off the deep end.

Faggots, wave your flags or don't. No one really gives a shit.

Or ban the flags. Who gives a shit?

It's not about weather you support the flag's message or not. Personally, I find racism and slavery to be the two greatest relics of barbarism in the history of the planet. Most of those I find flowing the Confederate Flag in my experience have been retarded hillbillies worthy of nothing but contempt. But I'd still rather live in a country where people are free to fly whatever hateful message or iconography they want than a country which tries to bully people into morality by either legislation or corporate fiat.

As far as companies dropping the Confederate Flag from their retail listings, I never said there should be a law preventing companies from doing that. Companies have the legal right to limit freedom of expression within themselves if they so choose. I still oppose it, though, because free expression itself is a good value to have and to hold, especially during times when people are panicking.

For instance, if Dylan Roof and Timothy McVeigh switched time periods in which they carried out their attacks and people found the complete Ragnar Benson Collection in McVeigh's attic and Amazon and co. dropped those and other militia and survivalist materials and books from their listings, I'd oppose that just as much as I oppose this. Or, on the other end of the right wing nativist spectrum, when an ISIS guerrilla shoots up a synagogue in New York next year and Amazon and co. remove anything ISIS positive from their store listings, I'll oppose that too.

 

[chimpburgers]

I imagine there were times where it was just simulated, but there were also very clearly times when he performed acts on those women they didn't agree to beforehand and physically hurt them in the process. Rape or abuse, whatever you call it, that is unacceptable. I feel the same way about film directors who abuse their actors, actresses, stuntmen, and stuntwomen.


Good to know you're just as oblivious to context as ever. At no point did I say that all things which are morally wrong are equal. Lying to your parents that you used a condom after you knocked up your neighbors wife is not the same thing as lying to your parents that you only gave your younger sister the Josh Duggar treatment once and you'll never do it again.


I don't have or need a line. Just because something's immoral doesn't mean there should be a law against it. There are countless immoral things people can do that don't and shouldn't break the law. Competitive eating competitions, for instance.

I don't worry about a registered work disappearing just because the author wants to make it go away. The Library of Congress always has a physical copy of any work of sufficient importance. Copyright is automatic, but to register the copyright and prevent fining, it needs to be sent and registered to the US Copyright Office. Assuming the apocalypse doesn't occur, at some point in history, the copyrights on these works will expire, and people should be able to find any edition of the work they want easily.

Until then, things like George Lucas hiding his own work is still morally wrong. But there doesn't need to be any new laws to come about to keep George Lucas, or anybody else who wants to do what he did, from doing it. You can't legislate morality, but that doesn't mean it's okay to behave in an immoral fashion.

Why do you have to be so long winded with your posts? Relax.

 

[Sanic]

A-U-T-I-S-M What does it mean?

 

[KingofManga420]

Why do you have to be so long winded with your posts? Relax.

Autism speaks. It's time to listen.

 

[JU 199]

It's not about weather you support the flag's message or not. Personally, I find racism and slavery to be the two greatest relics of barbarism in the history of the planet. Most of those I find flowing the Confederate Flag in my experience have been retarded hillbillies worthy of nothing but contempt. But I'd still rather live in a country where people are free to fly whatever hateful message or iconography they want than a country which tries to bully people into morality by either legislation or corporate fiat.

As far as companies dropping the Confederate Flag from their retail listings, I never said there should be a law preventing companies from doing that. Companies have the legal right to limit freedom of expression within themselves if they so choose. I still oppose it, though, because free expression itself is a good value to have and to hold, especially during times when people are panicking.

For instance, if Dylan Roof and Timothy McVeigh switched time periods in which they carried out their attacks and people found the complete Ragnar Benson Collection in McVeigh's attic and Amazon and co. dropped those and other militia and survivalist materials and books from their listings, I'd oppose that just as much as I oppose this. Or, on the other end of the right wing nativist spectrum, when an ISIS guerrilla shoots up a synagogue in New York next year and Amazon and co. remove anything ISIS positive from their store listings, I'll oppose that too.

TL;DR

 

[*Asterisk*]

It's not immoral. It's a movie. You are autistic. Enjoy life.

Again, when I say immoral, I'm talking about a very broad spectrum.

Stealing a video game from your best friend is immoral, and so is being Josh Duggar. But just because both these things are immoral doesn't make them equally immoral.

TL;DR

What's that? I'm too busy to read acronyms.

 

[JU 199]

It's like watching a car drive off a cliff.

Except more autistic.

 

[TheAmazingAxolotl]

Again, when I say immoral, I'm talking about a very broad spectrum.

Stealing a video game from your best friend is immoral, and so is being Josh Duggar. But just because both these things are immoral doesn't make them equally immoral.

How the fuck do we go from debating the morality of pulling the Confederate flag from stores to shit that is completely unrelated. Is that you, Chris?

 

[chimpburgers]

Again, when I say immoral, I'm talking about a very broad spectrum.

Stealing a video game from your best friend is immoral, and so is being Josh Duggar. But just because both these things are immoral doesn't make them equally immoral.


What's that? I'm too busy to read acronyms.

You're just pulling non sequiturs out of your ass at this point.

 

[*Asterisk*]

How the fuck do we go from debating the morality of pulling the Confederate flag from stores to shit that is completely unrelated. Is that you, Chris?

I saw people ask for me to explain my position, and I explained it. Then one of the guys in the back called me an ISIS sympathizer or a Nazi sympathizer. Now we're here.

Of course none of it will matter, since most of these posts'll likely be deleted soon.

You're just pulling non sequiturs out of your ass at this point.

People in glass houses, dollarpennypincher, should not defend the suppression of freedom of expression.

 

[KingofManga420]

Again, when I say immoral, I'm talking about a very broad spectrum.

Stealing a video game from your best friend is immoral, and so is being Josh Duggar. But just because both these things are immoral doesn't make them equally immoral.


What's that? I'm too busy to read acronyms.

I'm not questioning the level, I'm questioning that you think what George Lucas did on any level to the property that he owns is immoral. It makes me laugh if you legit take it that seriously.

 

[TheAmazingAxolotl]

I saw people ask for me to explain my position, and I explained it. Then one of the guys in the back called me an ISIS sympathizer or a Nazi sympathizer. Now we're here.

Of course none of it will matter, since most of these posts'll likely be deleted soon.

Bruh it wouldn't be so bad if you didn't try to explain yourself in the most autistic way possible.

 

[JU 199]

@*Asterisk*

You're beginning to look like a tryhard.

 

[Superior Watermelon]

People in glass houses, dollarpennypincher, should not defend the suppression of freedom of expression.

I don't think that's how the saying goes

 

[chimpburgers]

@*Asterisk*

You're beginning to look like a tryhard.

I think he's purposefully trying to stir shit like he did with the circumcision thread a while back. It's so apparent. He never knows when to just shut the fuck up.

 

[Locksnap]

Shit nigga I agree that companies like Apple distancing themselves from anything with the Confederate flag in it is a shit move, and specifically a disservice to the maker of Ultimate General: Gettysburg (which is a great game made by a cool dude). But its not an attack on freedom. So long as people can wave the flags privately I don't think its worth sweating about.

 

[JU 199]

What have we learned today?

Cocks, Confederate flags and George Lucas are @*Asterisk*'s triggers.

 

[*Asterisk*]

Bruh it wouldn't be so bad if you didn't try to explain yourself in the most autistic way possible.

It's a complex topic. There's not an easy way to explain the fine details of something like this, especially when the target of defense in question's an unsympathetic icon of braindead hillbillies.

I defend it anyway because it's the right thing to do, and if you'll take the time to actually look at my arguments, maybe you can bother actually refuting some of them rather than send this thread further into hell with cheap baiting and bitching.

I think he's purposefully trying to stir shit like he did with the circumcision thread a while back. It's so apparent. He never knows when to just shut the fuck up.

I have no intention of actually insulting anybody in this thread, and if I have, I'm sincerely sorry to both the person I insulted and the moderator who has to deal with me taking things further into the gutter because of it.

 

[Superior Watermelon]

What have we learned today?

Cocks, Confederate flags and George Lucas are @*Asterisk*'s triggers.

To be fair after what they did to Indy, George Lucas triggers me too.

 

[AnOminous]

Shit nigga I agree that companies like Apple distancing themselves from anything with the Confederate flag in it is a shit move, and specifically a disservice to the maker of Ultimate General: Gettysburg (which is a great game made by a cool dude). But its not an attack on freedom. So long as people can wave the flags privately I don't think its worth sweating about.

They told them to take the Confederate flag out. The makers of the game told them, basically, to fuck off.

But they restored it unaltered.

My guess is this was some marketing tard's idea, and once someone without shit for brains saw it, they realized it was retarded and reversed the decision.

I guess we'll see what they do on any other stuff that got unfairly targeted by this BS.