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Now I'm going to bed. Sorry, @Humanoid Email Address, I can only hope to be as good as you one day, senpai.
Manosphere Marijan Šiklić (ThatIncelBlogger) 2: The Revenge
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I thought over whether to make this post or not, since the Farms have a rule of no interference with the verified, but I have to be honest with myself: my conscience is bothering me about Marijan's situation, and I am going to make this post even though I believe it will be in vain.
I am going to make this post, and then stop posting in this thread, because I feel on balance, I am not behaving ethically in continuing to poke fun at someone in this situation. There will be no need for you to respond, Marijan: I know you will state that I am "insane", a "crazy slut" and other intended insults. I will not read your further posts, so you need not do so. I also understand that your reaction will further demonstrate the extent of your current problems.
@Holden, I am now speaking to you very seriously, as one individual to another. I am not trolling or seeking to get a response out of you. I am not baiting you; I am expressing a genuine, sincere concern from one person to another about your situation and your health.
I believe - and I believe it has also become apparent to others following your threads on here and elsewhere - that you are seriously ill. You are unwell, you are getting worse, and you need urgently to seek medical help.
You are extremely sensitive on the point of whether you have, or indeed have been diagnosed with, a mental illness, and you are exceptionally angry at @4Macie for making the suggestion in jest. It is noted that you were particularly sensitive to the reference that you were "hearing voices". However, you have also disclosed to @flossman (and possibly others) that you were subjected to (apparently more than one) psychiatric evaluation when you were first in trouble with the law. You indicated that you were given no conclusive diagnosis, but that there was concern you might suffer from a personality disorder, possibly of a borderline or schizoaffective type. You were at that time too young for any psychiatrist to give you a conclusive diagnosis, as certain mental illnesses only conclusively present a little later in life. You are now in your mid twenties, the age at which a diagnosis - and most importantly, treatment - would be possible.
Marijan, the internet is your primary social outlet. You deny this when it appears necessary or convenient, but you have admitted it often both here and elsewhere, and it is apparent from your conduct that it is indeed so. You state you live alone. We know by your own free admission that you do not work, that you have few friends in your town, and that you feel a lack of connection with them. It is evident from your posting habits, as well as your content, that you do not frequently leave your home for social or other reasons. As a result, it is reasonable to take your internet presentation as representative of your current presentation and mental state.
You are displaying the symptoms of schizophrenia, and your presentation is deteriorating. You are unwell, and you are getting worse. I am not qualified to diagnose you, but I am competent enough in professional dealings with those detained under the Mental Health Act to notice and categorise the symptoms you are displaying, and in complete good faith I urge you to seek help.
I note that lack of insight into one's health and mental state is present in more than half of schizophrenics, and this increases if they are untreated. I am confident from all the copious information you have made available about yourself that you are currently unmedicated, and you have confirmed you are not presently in therapy or under the care of a psychiatrist. I believe you show lack of insight into your condition. You do not realise you are unwell, you certainly demonstrate no insight into the severity of your illness currently, and I except you to respond to this post with rage and claims that I intend you harm of some kind. I do not. I repeat, I make this post in full good faith and with no intent other than to urge you to seek appropriate healthcare.
I will note the symptoms I have observed in your presentation over past months. I have also taken care to read back through your past writings and comments on other internet sites, and I believe your symptoms are deteriorating over time. I note at this point that many of these symptoms are also present in schizoaffective disorder, a closely related illness, and this underlines the need for you to urgently obtain the expert care and opinion of a psychiatrist to be clear about the nature of your illness.
Schizophrenia, along with schizoaffective disorder, can present with mania, psychosis and depression. By your own admission, you are depressed, and you display symptoms of major depression. Your emotional affect is flat; you report feeling no pleasure in anything; you speak often of a nihilistic worldview and occasionally express suicidal ideation. You experience manic episodes where you stay up for several days frantically posting on this and other websites. You do not desist from this even when you are urged by myself and other posters to rest, eat, and sleep. I believe you may be experiencing psychotic symptoms also. You express delusional and paranoid beliefs, such as that women enjoy violent rape and that if you posted a photo of your dog, posters here would track down and harm your pet. You were extremely upset when Macie mentioned "hearing voices"; I believe you were upset because you have, now or in the past, experienced auditory or other type of hallucinations. These are serious symptoms.
You also display all of the major symptoms of schizophrenia, both the positive and negative classes. For the positive symptoms, you regularly display delusional beliefs founded upon either very limited, or indeed no, personal experience. You are unable to be dissuaded from these beliefs, although they are not founded in reality, by either personal testimony or scientific evidence presented to you. These are, by definition, delusions. You persist in believing a girl has conceived your child, even though it has been explained to you numerous ties that the girl could not have know whether she was pregnant at the time she is supposed to have disclosed this information to you.
You display the abnormal social functioning of a schizophrenic. You attempt to befriend people inappropriately (you believe @NobleGreyHorse has become a close personal friend based on a Skype conversation), you vent rage and threats without any provocation at other persons of your acquaintance (Macie, Lalala) and you make inappropriate sexual approaches to others (flossman, @HickoryDickory). You continually attempt to obtain people's personal information as a means of leverage over them (numerous posters here, the girl you coerced into sex by your own admission). You have few, if any, friends outside the internet, and you have freely admitted that you have difficulty maintaining those relationships. You display inappropriate sexual interest in children, and also a fixation with rape.
You display the disordered thought and speech patterns common in schizophrenia, and these in particular are getting noticeably worse. You continually demand "citations" and "quotes" when people repeat statements you have made, indicating you have difficulty remembering your own conversations. When these quotes are given, you continually and automatically deny you have made the statement in question. If you are willing to accept it is your statement, you flatly contradict the plain meaning of the statement itself and claim the clear meaning of the statement is in fact "crazy", "insane" and "lies". You will not I am not providing "quotes" in this post precisely to avoid triggering this behaviour in you, as I believe it is harmful and contributes to your thought disorder and delusions. Your English, which used to be excellent for a second language, has noticeably deteriorated - both your comprehension and your writing skills - and this has been commented on by numerous posters. Your thoughts appear disordered. You are no longer able to post coherently, and you routinely display an inability to follow an argument or chain of thought in your own posts, as well as those of those. Your conversations have become close to incomprehensible. This in particular has become noticeably worse in recent weeks and months. You also display inappropriate rage and agitation. You make threatening, rage-filled posts for no apparent reason and freely threaten posters here with violence and sexual violence.
As for the negative symptoms, we have already covered that you display flat, apathetic emotional affect. You are unable to motivate yourself to work. You only rarely socialise. You state frequently that there is no point to your life. You are fixated with the idea of obtaining a wife, but appear unable to motivate yourself to seek personal relationships. Those personal relationships you do have (parents, some friends) are by your own admission difficult for you to maintain. This is a well recognised symptom of schizophrenia. You also admitted you had been tested for facial expression recognition and had displayed in the past some difficulty with this; another symptom. We are not able to assess your self-care skills and physical presentation, but the photos that exist of you (which you deny are of you, in what appears to be a paranoid delusion that posters on the internet will seek you out and harm you) display a marked deterioration in your physical presentation and grooming over recent years. You are reluctant to leave your home. You freely admit you are unable to initiate conversations and repeatedly claim you have nothing to say when contacted via Skype. This is another negative symptom.
I believe the events that caused you to have contact with the criminal justice system were, for you, a first episode of psychosis. I believe you are experiencing a further episode now. Acute psychosis is hugely disabling, and schizophrenia - particularly if untreated - grossly reduces not only quality, but length of life, often by ten to twenty-five years.
Marijan, my concern for you is genuine, and not motivated by anything other than basic humanity. You need help. Please, speak to someone - perhaps your parents - and seek their aid and support to obtain psychiatric care urgently. Schizophrenia is treatable. It is often very successfully treated, and people can go many years without a relapse. Please seek help.
I am going to make this post, and then stop posting in this thread, because I feel on balance, I am not behaving ethically in continuing to poke fun at someone in this situation. There will be no need for you to respond, Marijan: I know you will state that I am "insane", a "crazy slut" and other intended insults. I will not read your further posts, so you need not do so. I also understand that your reaction will further demonstrate the extent of your current problems.
@Holden, I am now speaking to you very seriously, as one individual to another. I am not trolling or seeking to get a response out of you. I am not baiting you; I am expressing a genuine, sincere concern from one person to another about your situation and your health.
I believe - and I believe it has also become apparent to others following your threads on here and elsewhere - that you are seriously ill. You are unwell, you are getting worse, and you need urgently to seek medical help.
You are extremely sensitive on the point of whether you have, or indeed have been diagnosed with, a mental illness, and you are exceptionally angry at @4Macie for making the suggestion in jest. It is noted that you were particularly sensitive to the reference that you were "hearing voices". However, you have also disclosed to @flossman (and possibly others) that you were subjected to (apparently more than one) psychiatric evaluation when you were first in trouble with the law. You indicated that you were given no conclusive diagnosis, but that there was concern you might suffer from a personality disorder, possibly of a borderline or schizoaffective type. You were at that time too young for any psychiatrist to give you a conclusive diagnosis, as certain mental illnesses only conclusively present a little later in life. You are now in your mid twenties, the age at which a diagnosis - and most importantly, treatment - would be possible.
Marijan, the internet is your primary social outlet. You deny this when it appears necessary or convenient, but you have admitted it often both here and elsewhere, and it is apparent from your conduct that it is indeed so. You state you live alone. We know by your own free admission that you do not work, that you have few friends in your town, and that you feel a lack of connection with them. It is evident from your posting habits, as well as your content, that you do not frequently leave your home for social or other reasons. As a result, it is reasonable to take your internet presentation as representative of your current presentation and mental state.
You are displaying the symptoms of schizophrenia, and your presentation is deteriorating. You are unwell, and you are getting worse. I am not qualified to diagnose you, but I am competent enough in professional dealings with those detained under the Mental Health Act to notice and categorise the symptoms you are displaying, and in complete good faith I urge you to seek help.
I note that lack of insight into one's health and mental state is present in more than half of schizophrenics, and this increases if they are untreated. I am confident from all the copious information you have made available about yourself that you are currently unmedicated, and you have confirmed you are not presently in therapy or under the care of a psychiatrist. I believe you show lack of insight into your condition. You do not realise you are unwell, you certainly demonstrate no insight into the severity of your illness currently, and I except you to respond to this post with rage and claims that I intend you harm of some kind. I do not. I repeat, I make this post in full good faith and with no intent other than to urge you to seek appropriate healthcare.
I will note the symptoms I have observed in your presentation over past months. I have also taken care to read back through your past writings and comments on other internet sites, and I believe your symptoms are deteriorating over time. I note at this point that many of these symptoms are also present in schizoaffective disorder, a closely related illness, and this underlines the need for you to urgently obtain the expert care and opinion of a psychiatrist to be clear about the nature of your illness.
Schizophrenia, along with schizoaffective disorder, can present with mania, psychosis and depression. By your own admission, you are depressed, and you display symptoms of major depression. Your emotional affect is flat; you report feeling no pleasure in anything; you speak often of a nihilistic worldview and occasionally express suicidal ideation. You experience manic episodes where you stay up for several days frantically posting on this and other websites. You do not desist from this even when you are urged by myself and other posters to rest, eat, and sleep. I believe you may be experiencing psychotic symptoms also. You express delusional and paranoid beliefs, such as that women enjoy violent rape and that if you posted a photo of your dog, posters here would track down and harm your pet. You were extremely upset when Macie mentioned "hearing voices"; I believe you were upset because you have, now or in the past, experienced auditory or other type of hallucinations. These are serious symptoms.
You also display all of the major symptoms of schizophrenia, both the positive and negative classes. For the positive symptoms, you regularly display delusional beliefs founded upon either very limited, or indeed no, personal experience. You are unable to be dissuaded from these beliefs, although they are not founded in reality, by either personal testimony or scientific evidence presented to you. These are, by definition, delusions. You persist in believing a girl has conceived your child, even though it has been explained to you numerous ties that the girl could not have know whether she was pregnant at the time she is supposed to have disclosed this information to you.
You display the abnormal social functioning of a schizophrenic. You attempt to befriend people inappropriately (you believe @NobleGreyHorse has become a close personal friend based on a Skype conversation), you vent rage and threats without any provocation at other persons of your acquaintance (Macie, Lalala) and you make inappropriate sexual approaches to others (flossman, @HickoryDickory). You continually attempt to obtain people's personal information as a means of leverage over them (numerous posters here, the girl you coerced into sex by your own admission). You have few, if any, friends outside the internet, and you have freely admitted that you have difficulty maintaining those relationships. You display inappropriate sexual interest in children, and also a fixation with rape.
You display the disordered thought and speech patterns common in schizophrenia, and these in particular are getting noticeably worse. You continually demand "citations" and "quotes" when people repeat statements you have made, indicating you have difficulty remembering your own conversations. When these quotes are given, you continually and automatically deny you have made the statement in question. If you are willing to accept it is your statement, you flatly contradict the plain meaning of the statement itself and claim the clear meaning of the statement is in fact "crazy", "insane" and "lies". You will not I am not providing "quotes" in this post precisely to avoid triggering this behaviour in you, as I believe it is harmful and contributes to your thought disorder and delusions. Your English, which used to be excellent for a second language, has noticeably deteriorated - both your comprehension and your writing skills - and this has been commented on by numerous posters. Your thoughts appear disordered. You are no longer able to post coherently, and you routinely display an inability to follow an argument or chain of thought in your own posts, as well as those of those. Your conversations have become close to incomprehensible. This in particular has become noticeably worse in recent weeks and months. You also display inappropriate rage and agitation. You make threatening, rage-filled posts for no apparent reason and freely threaten posters here with violence and sexual violence.
As for the negative symptoms, we have already covered that you display flat, apathetic emotional affect. You are unable to motivate yourself to work. You only rarely socialise. You state frequently that there is no point to your life. You are fixated with the idea of obtaining a wife, but appear unable to motivate yourself to seek personal relationships. Those personal relationships you do have (parents, some friends) are by your own admission difficult for you to maintain. This is a well recognised symptom of schizophrenia. You also admitted you had been tested for facial expression recognition and had displayed in the past some difficulty with this; another symptom. We are not able to assess your self-care skills and physical presentation, but the photos that exist of you (which you deny are of you, in what appears to be a paranoid delusion that posters on the internet will seek you out and harm you) display a marked deterioration in your physical presentation and grooming over recent years. You are reluctant to leave your home. You freely admit you are unable to initiate conversations and repeatedly claim you have nothing to say when contacted via Skype. This is another negative symptom.
I believe the events that caused you to have contact with the criminal justice system were, for you, a first episode of psychosis. I believe you are experiencing a further episode now. Acute psychosis is hugely disabling, and schizophrenia - particularly if untreated - grossly reduces not only quality, but length of life, often by ten to twenty-five years.
Marijan, my concern for you is genuine, and not motivated by anything other than basic humanity. You need help. Please, speak to someone - perhaps your parents - and seek their aid and support to obtain psychiatric care urgently. Schizophrenia is treatable. It is often very successfully treated, and people can go many years without a relapse. Please seek help.
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Fareal - a bunch of nonsense, I don't know even where to start.
I guess your first insanity would be one you claim to have support for in your personal life - that one can even get a gf. So that would make the idea that treatment of any mental illness (present or not) would achieve some results. But this isn't the case. Men like me, who aren't seducers or rapists, will never get a woman. If we made peace with it then we'd be schizophrenic.
In some aspects it would even be better if we were schizo seducers.
So, next you diagnose online. That's insane. It's spitting on entire medical profession. Diagnose online all you want, but they don't recommend any treatments - you think psychiatry is bs.
The events that caused my first meeting with justice system were not caused by any psychosis. Nobody ever said that. Trying to reinterpret events from 2008 now, as somebody who saw me online in 2015? C'mon.
Unable to motivate myself to work? You mean unable to motivate myself to pay for being single?
There's just so many crazy scattered here its fucking hilarious, like the silly idea that I actually wanted to fuck flossman or hickory.
So many claims on my posting here alone that are not true and you don't even try to prove.
I guess some indication of how schizo I am is that I spent 5 hours today talking to Horse. Ask her how crazy I sounded.
I believe it's far less than you do now.
I guess your first insanity would be one you claim to have support for in your personal life - that one can even get a gf. So that would make the idea that treatment of any mental illness (present or not) would achieve some results. But this isn't the case. Men like me, who aren't seducers or rapists, will never get a woman. If we made peace with it then we'd be schizophrenic.
In some aspects it would even be better if we were schizo seducers.
So, next you diagnose online. That's insane. It's spitting on entire medical profession. Diagnose online all you want, but they don't recommend any treatments - you think psychiatry is bs.
The events that caused my first meeting with justice system were not caused by any psychosis. Nobody ever said that. Trying to reinterpret events from 2008 now, as somebody who saw me online in 2015? C'mon.
Unable to motivate myself to work? You mean unable to motivate myself to pay for being single?
There's just so many crazy scattered here its fucking hilarious, like the silly idea that I actually wanted to fuck flossman or hickory.
So many claims on my posting here alone that are not true and you don't even try to prove.
I guess some indication of how schizo I am is that I spent 5 hours today talking to Horse. Ask her how crazy I sounded.
I believe it's far less than you do now.
I mentioned writing a novel several times.
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My life. Not really an autobiography, it's written in third person and really inner life, but something like that I guess.
Also, Fareal
" I believe you were upset because you have, now or in the past, experienced auditory or other type of hallucinations."
Nope. But would be cool if I did.
"You persist in believing a girl has conceived your child, even though it has been explained to you numerous ties that the girl could not have know whether she was pregnant at the time she is supposed to have disclosed this information to you. "
Nope. It's just that people here were too retarded to actually know when I arrived to her town and when she declared it.
"you believe @@NobleGreyHorse has become a close personal friend based on a Skype conversation"
I said I am interested in her as a friend.
"You continually attempt to obtain people's personal information as a means of leverage over them (numerous posters here)"
In fact not a single one.
"You have few, if any, friends outside the internet"
Another thing I never said.
"You continually demand "citations" and "quotes" when people repeat statements you have made"
Nope, when distort them like the Otaku mental patient does.
"You state frequently that there is no point to your life. "
Because there objectively isn't, unless you feel being a slave would be that.
"You are fixated with the idea of obtaining a wife, but appear unable to motivate yourself to seek personal relationships."
I claim you can't obtain an actual wife in the West so this claim makes no sense. It's like saying I'm obsessed with the idea of living in Beijing but refuse to go to New York.
" Those personal relationships you do have (parents, some friends) are by your own admission difficult for you to maintain."
No, they're in fact very easy to maintain. Some don't even need maintaining.
"You also admitted you had been tested for facial expression recognition"
Only if you dreamt this.
"but the photos that exist of you (which you deny are of you"
I deny it because they're not. Even if they were the latest one is 5 years old.
" in what appears to be a paranoid delusion that posters on the internet will seek you out and harm you"
They posted addresses, phone numbers and pics of houses of innocent people that happened to carry the surname they believe is mine.
"You are reluctant to leave your home. "
Not if there's a good reason.
"You freely admit you are unable to initiate conversations and repeatedly claim you have nothing to say when contacted via Skype. "
I talked to horse for 5 hours today.
"It is often very successfully treated, and people can go many years without a relapse. "
But even if I had it, what the fuck for? To be a slave for rapists?
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You remember that whole "can you please quote the people you're replying to" conversation we had not even three pages ago?
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And that alone is about not even half of it, Fareal. I just pointed out the most obvious lies. Other contradictions, nonsense, illogical claims and other would take a lot more.
This is what you are, Fareal. Nothing but a fucking joke.
This is what you are, Fareal. Nothing but a fucking joke.
I don't want to delete her monstrosity of stupid post each time I say why some part is bs.
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Highlight the part you want to reply to, click +Quote. Do it again for the next part you want to reply to, and the next, and the next, and the next. Go to the post reply box and hit Insert Quotes, then Okay. All the parts you specifically want to reply to are now quoted, in order.
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Now I'm just convinced that @deductionotaku is right: you stop tagging people/quoting them directly in the hopes that they won't think to come back and keep arguing with you.
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He is wrong about this being my intention. It's more about me not having any will or habit of doing so, but if it will get lunatics to stop spewing even more dangerous crazy, crazy that will destroy boys and men by telling them lies about some respect and relationships which will get them loathing by women, then it's useful, though unintentionally.
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So then you don't deny that it's an attempt to stop an argument that you're unable to win.
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I deny it's an attempt to do anything. As for arguments, I never lost a single one. You are free to point out an argument I lost.
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Conversely, please point out a single argument you've won.
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I'm not so sure about that. That would be subjective in your mind. What argument have you made that you're most proud and that you think destroyed all of us Kiwis? You're still here trying to debate everyone. If you had fully shown everyone the truth, you'd have not much of a reason to continue posting here.
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And as expected Fuckbot responded with the most obvious display of denial you could imagine.
That was a valiant effort, I applaud you.
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