Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
Hopefully this doesn't come across as white-knighting for Dream, but I hope that people remember that he's only 21, and was catapulted to fame incredibly quickly. There's no doubt that he has done some very dumb shit, but I find it a bit vexing when people point to this kind of stuff as if it's any different from the kind of dumb shit young adults his age do all the time. He's not a four-dimensional chess-master or a scheming criminal mastermind who is engaged in some giant conspiracy to brainwash his fans; he's an introverted kid who hit it big and is fumbling around with a giant audience he has neither the social skills nor experience to handle properly.
 
This is nothing new. Minecraft has always been about raping and torturing innocent lives.

I know, right? All these faggots need to play Terraria instead. Far superior. Does Minecraft let you tunnel into Hell itself or fly to the edge of SPAAAAAACE??? I don't think so!

I don't know either, since I never played Minecraft, it looks like blocky bullshit the Sega Saturn would have been embarassed to have in it's library. 🤓

Terraria 4ever.
 
Hopefully this doesn't come across as white-knighting for Dream, but I hope that people remember that he's only 21, and was catapulted to fame incredibly quickly. There's no doubt that he has done some very dumb shit, but I find it a bit vexing when people point to this kind of stuff as if it's any different from the kind of dumb shit young adults his age do all the time. He's not a four-dimensional chess-master or a scheming criminal mastermind who is engaged in some giant conspiracy to brainwash his fans; he's an introverted kid who hit it big and is fumbling around with a giant audience he has neither the social skills nor experience to handle properly.
Eh, kind of hard to have sympathy when he is apparently a cheater both in real life and when speed running the game that got him famous. Even at 21 this is shitty behavior that will only seemingly get worse considering his attitude towards it.
 
Hopefully this doesn't come across as white-knighting for Dream, but I hope that people remember that he's only 21, and was catapulted to fame incredibly quickly. There's no doubt that he has done some very dumb shit, but I find it a bit vexing when people point to this kind of stuff as if it's any different from the kind of dumb shit young adults his age do all the time. He's not a four-dimensional chess-master or a scheming criminal mastermind who is engaged in some giant conspiracy to brainwash his fans; he's an introverted kid who hit it big and is fumbling around with a giant audience he has neither the social skills nor experience to handle properly.
So what he is 21? Him cheating on his gf several times with several women wasn't "very dumb shit", it was him being a deplorable human being and he deserves to be shit on for it.
 
This is the same community that acts like Notch is Hitler because he said there's a conspiracy against white people.
Speaking of.
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(Yes Notch really is in the video)
 
Hopefully this doesn't come across as white-knighting for Dream, but I hope that people remember that he's only 21, and was catapulted to fame incredibly quickly. There's no doubt that he has done some very dumb shit, but I find it a bit vexing when people point to this kind of stuff as if it's any different from the kind of dumb shit young adults his age do all the time. He's not a four-dimensional chess-master or a scheming criminal mastermind who is engaged in some giant conspiracy to brainwash his fans; he's an introverted kid who hit it big and is fumbling around with a giant audience he has neither the social skills nor experience to handle properly.

Yeah but you’re describing every current and popular creator. Did Jake Paul, James Charles, Ninja, etc get a pass? No they didn't. Not all people are born equal and not all of us can live in 800,000 dollar houses especially in the current climate. These are the pitfalls of success and it's his turn to get his sink or swim moment. This is what differentiates the lolcows from the memorable. I think you have the ability to understand this but you’re blatantly over exaggerating the criticism against him “brainwashing”? The odds ones out is an introvert so is cry, all these stickmen mfs have the same MO it doesn't change anything.
 
Haven't seen this mentioned yet, but awhile ago the dreamSMP discord got leaked and its got some interesting messages.
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Supposedly team rooted are the group that made the dox but I haven't seen any evidence of that.

Here's a video of the discord, has some interesting stuff about what his friends think of stans.
 

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Hopefully this doesn't come across as white-knighting for Dream, but I hope that people remember that he's only 21, and was catapulted to fame incredibly quickly. There's no doubt that he has done some very dumb shit, but I find it a bit vexing when people point to this kind of stuff as if it's any different from the kind of dumb shit young adults his age do all the time. He's not a four-dimensional chess-master or a scheming criminal mastermind who is engaged in some giant conspiracy to brainwash his fans; he's an introverted kid who hit it big and is fumbling around with a giant audience he has neither the social skills nor experience to handle properly.
He could have garnered some sympathy if he was upfront about cheating as soon as accusations started to surface, but his response video was very manipulative of information, especially considering his viewers are children/young teens. For example, he tried to show the difference between the numbers 7,500,000,000,000 and 100,000,000 by visualising how much the moderators were off by in their assessment as 1 block = 100,000,000, which to anyone who thinks about it for more than a second is an entirely pointless visualisation (1 in 100,000,000 chance of those odds happening to anyone ever is still infinitesimal).
Considering he is lying about something as inconsequential as cheating in a Minecraft speedrun, I wouldn't wager that he'd be a particularly honest individual when he's inevitably accused of grooming children in the future.
 
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