Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
He's fucking retarded for encouraging all these minecraft schizos, jesus christ. And I thought I had seen everything on the internet (I have a fucking kiwifarms account), how can someone get this obssessed and riled up with a dime a dozen, generic youtuber? I don't think I have seen this level of insanity before, and I'm in a place created to document CWC.
I got news for you. This sort of fandom isn't even that unusual on the modern internet.
 
He's fucking retarded for encouraging all these minecraft schizos, a dime a dozen, generic youtuber?
How do you think he’s trying to keep his head above water and maintain relevance? I’ve seen hundreds of accounts like his and his content is nothing special to the 17 year olds he streams with. It’s a toxic combination of a child fanbase and the popularity of who he associates with.

The scary thing is that making snuff fanart of your favourite let’s player or minecraft YTer isn’t uncommon and is even encouraged by other stans (Dream is retarded for not establishing boundaries when he had the chance). Now that his address is out there it’s going to be a shitshow.

Edit: his design is even ripped from cry who hung out with pewdiepie at his height. These types imitate each other.
 
Nah. Give them 3 days. I await their arrival.
Dream's stans as well as stan culture in general gives me vibes that this guy is like Joseph Stalin to some degree. Don't underestimate his stans. They also remind me of the Japanese during World War II with their sheer fanaticism. I'm even thinking of doing a video where I dissect his psychology and his cult of personality. A guy from a community that I'm aware of named zman already did it but I believe that a better job can be done.
(EDIT: Zman as it turns out is a human version of the dunning kruger effect, mainly because he's not as good at articulating his shit in hindsight)
 
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Did anyone ever actually come up with something more concrete than 'he got really lucky' as proof of his supposed cheating?

Like, this guy got world record holder in other categories, in runs that were at least seen as legit, and he held the lead for two months in the middle of 2020. Despite that, the supposed cheated run didn't even podium. Why would you cheat and not even place, if you knew you could win the record legitimately? Or alternately, if he's going to cheat a run like that, is it possible or even likely he cheated his earlier world records for it? Why haven't we found that yet?

The luck he got was ungodly unlikely... but it's not impossible.

I'm not saying that it's impossible he cheated, I just don't see that as being more likely than some equally desperate but less 'successful' (if you count torture porn being made of you as success) minecrafters jumping on a chance to take down a perceived frontrunner.

Normally, when people catch someone cheating, it's something incredibly autistic but concrete, like 'monkey heads were tilted slightly differently between stage transitions'.
 
Nah. Give them 3 days. I await their arrival.
We're talking about schizo minecraft fans who went after Notch because of a statement he made, they're smart enough to not go to scary forums like the farms where they'll be banned in an hour after autistically sperging their shits. They stay on social media sites where it's an echo chamber, like the h3h3 fan tards
 
It also helps that Etho still treats his channel as a hobby and less like a job. I'm aware that he took donations in the past but I think now the only source of revenue he gets from Minecraft is through ad revenue, and given YouTube that's probably not a lot.

I know I've ragged on both groups a little in the thread but I do miss the old Mindcrack days despite Guude making some bad decisions with the brand since unlike say yogscast which heavily relied on scripted skits to stay popular, most of Mindcrack's success came from the members being proficient at the game in one or more aspects. And I do hope Hermitcraft doesn't crash and burn despite some parts of the group I'm not a fan since they have been decent at nipping overzealous fan reactions at the bud before they get out of hand.

Even the old Yogscast's content which was scripted and semi-scripted (which wasn't even all of it) was better than this shit that Dream puts out. It was actually funny, and entertaining way back then, and they didn't try and pass themselves off as pro players or anything, or cheat for attention and lie about it. When the Yogscast "cheated" in Minecraft (like the classic spawning in TNT to solve any problem they were faced with), they straight up did it right in the open for everyone to see, and then had a laugh about it.
 
I fucking hate dream fans and twitter. archive
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Did anyone ever actually come up with something more concrete than 'he got really lucky' as proof of his supposed cheating?

Like, this guy got world record holder in other categories, in runs that were at least seen as legit, and he held the lead for two months in the middle of 2020. Despite that, the supposed cheated run didn't even podium. Why would you cheat and not even place, if you knew you could win the record legitimately? Or alternately, if he's going to cheat a run like that, is it possible or even likely he cheated his earlier world records for it? Why haven't we found that yet?

The luck he got was ungodly unlikely... but it's not impossible.

I'm not saying that it's impossible he cheated, I just don't see that as being more likely than some equally desperate but less 'successful' (if you count torture porn being made of you as success) minecrafters jumping on a chance to take down a perceived frontrunner.

Normally, when people catch someone cheating, it's something incredibly autistic but concrete, like 'monkey heads were tilted slightly differently between stage transitions'.
The only things changed were Nether item drop rates, one of which regards a trading mechanic newly added to 1.16 that he’s openly complained about before. One particular run even was on WR pace, however he got screwed over at the very last minute by a completely separate RNG in a different area of the game, otherwise he would’ve been at the top.
 
Did anyone ever actually come up with something more concrete than 'he got really lucky' as proof of his supposed cheating?

Like, this guy got world record holder in other categories, in runs that were at least seen as legit, and he held the lead for two months in the middle of 2020. Despite that, the supposed cheated run didn't even podium. Why would you cheat and not even place, if you knew you could win the record legitimately? Or alternately, if he's going to cheat a run like that, is it possible or even likely he cheated his earlier world records for it? Why haven't we found that yet?

The luck he got was ungodly unlikely... but it's not impossible.

I'm not saying that it's impossible he cheated, I just don't see that as being more likely than some equally desperate but less 'successful' (if you count torture porn being made of you as success) minecrafters jumping on a chance to take down a perceived frontrunner.

Normally, when people catch someone cheating, it's something incredibly autistic but concrete, like 'monkey heads were tilted slightly differently between stage transitions'.
It's not so much Dream got lucky and more so that the luck he had was mathematically impossible. The rate at which he was getting two certain items in the game was so high that not even someone who had ran billions of simulations could have a single instance have that same kind of luck he had.
 
Did anyone ever actually come up with something more concrete than 'he got really lucky' as proof of his supposed cheating?

Like, this guy got world record holder in other categories, in runs that were at least seen as legit, and he held the lead for two months in the middle of 2020. Despite that, the supposed cheated run didn't even podium. Why would you cheat and not even place, if you knew you could win the record legitimately? Or alternately, if he's going to cheat a run like that, is it possible or even likely he cheated his earlier world records for it? Why haven't we found that yet?

The luck he got was ungodly unlikely... but it's not impossible.

I'm not saying that it's impossible he cheated, I just don't see that as being more likely than some equally desperate but less 'successful' (if you count torture porn being made of you as success) minecrafters jumping on a chance to take down a perceived frontrunner.

Normally, when people catch someone cheating, it's something incredibly autistic but concrete, like 'monkey heads were tilted slightly differently between stage transitions'.
Really lucky? There is a 1 in 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance he didn't cheat.

I took a screenshot at the trend itself, I now want to blow my fucking head off.View attachment 1826705

He wanted this response. Why else admit sharting yourself?
I mean ChrisChan can relate but other than being ChrisChan why admit it?
 
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I fucking hate dream fans and twitter. archive
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i don't know what context is behind this but this is just abhorrent. shows how psychotic alot of twitter faggots are.

a bit powerlevel but i once knew this dream stan who was a complete SJW. thank god i got her out of my life.
 
The only things changed were Nether item drop rates, one of which regards a trading mechanic newly added to 1.16 that he’s openly complained about before. One particular run even was on WR pace, however he got screwed over at the very last minute by a completely separate RNG in a different area of the game, otherwise he would’ve been at the top.
That second line I guess touches on the crux of my argument.

You say 'one particular run'. Did he have a single run where he got that absurd luck, or did he have a consistent record of getting above=average luck?

If it's a single run that, as you put it, gave him suspiciously good rng for a while then screwed him over with a different rng, couldn't that just be a fluke of a run? Wouldn't he control for other rng factors, if he was willing to cheat for a run?

I guess the shortest way to say it is, if he's willing to cheat, I'd expect him to cheat more - remove more than one rng factor from his speedrun attempts, or have signs of cheating in other runs he's done. Without evidence of either of those things (particularly if the very run where he manipulated RNG... was screwed over from WR pace by bad RNG...)

Then again, maybe I'm expecting too much consistency from someone who... shits themself and talks about it on twitter...
 
Like, this guy got world record holder in other categories, in runs that were at least seen as legit, and he held the lead for two months in the middle of 2020. Despite that, the supposed cheated run didn't even podium. Why would you cheat and not even place, if you knew you could win the record legitimately? Or alternately, if he's going to cheat a run like that, is it possible or even likely he cheated his earlier world records for it? Why haven't we found that yet?
From what I recall, he cheated on multiple runs. If he was able to place, then he would have gladly done so but the other RNG aspects involved in Minecraft speedrunning can't be as easily modified compared to a trade table. He has also been a critic regarding the trade RNG, which is now what every minecraft speedrun in 1.16 is heavily reliant on whereas the previous version was more spawn dependent.
 
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