Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
I didn't realize the farms was as cancel hungry as twitter

what kind of kangaroo court argument is that? because some tranny on twitter accuses you anything suddenly you have to submit to some burden of proof just to not get canceled?

I don't care if clayton gets raped by a bear tomorrow, its the frenzy to blame and the guilty until proven innocent mentality I hate, it gives the dangerhairs way to much power
No one is trying to cancel your boyfriend, relax. We're arguing Occam's razor. "The simplest explanation is usually the right one."

Option 1: Clayton beat 1 in 20 sextillion odds.
Option 2: He cheated.
 
Listen, you dense mother fucker. Several people in the thread have already explained to you that you're fucking retarded. Stop shitting up the topic because you're too stupid to get it. Spergs did the math, the math checks out. Shut the fuck up about it.
Just because a cluster of morons happen to be saying the same thing doesn't make them right, I believe the information was acquired and presented in a biased manner
No one is trying to cancel your boyfriend, relax. We're arguing Occam's razor. "The simplest explanation is usually the right one."

Option 1: Clayton beat 1 in 20 sextillion odds.
Option 2: He cheated.
strawman with a little misuse of Occam's razor, golden.

Methinks there may still be a simpler explanation...
 
Just because a cluster of morons happen to be saying the same thing doesn't make them right, I believe the information was acquired and presented in a biased manner

strawman with a little misuse of Occam's razor, golden.

Methinks there may still be a simpler explanation...
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forgive me if my understanding is too simplistic, but would accounting for a few extra streams have had any meaningful impact on this number, which is the chance that anyone would ever get this lucky?
 
Just because a cluster of morons happen to be saying the same thing doesn't make them right, I believe the information was acquired and presented in a biased manner
A cluster of morons? You mean like Dream's fanbase?
I didn't realize the farms was as cancel hungry as twitter

what kind of kangaroo court argument is that? because some tranny on twitter accuses you anything suddenly you have to submit to some burden of proof just to not get canceled?

I don't care if clayton gets raped by a bear tomorrow, its the frenzy to blame and the guilty until proven innocent mentality I hate, it gives the dangerhairs way to much power
Minecraft and the speedrunning community are both leftist hell holes. Dream is in good company because they all have the "right politics". It's not a cancel culture thing and nobody here is advocating for reporting his videos which is the closest thing to a cancel campaign you can do to someone who's job is being a YouTuber.

Speedruns get questioned all the time. An honest person when asked to turn over the contents of their mod folder wouldn't have "deleted" it then start crying about the mods being biased for doing a routine thing that happens with speedruns. If you want to see what a legitimate speedrunner does when he gets his speedrun rejected you can listen to the "video games are hard" podcast where Sided williams details how one of his Mario Sunshine runs were rejected and he got on with his life like a fucking adult.

This stuff has a process. You submit a run, the mods look at it, if there is something amiss they investigate, the runner works with the mods to conduct the investigation, then it's decided. It shouldn't be a big deal. If Dream wants to try his hand at the run again he's welcome to apparently. If he's still sulking over his sour grapes it leads me to believe he can't replicate that run and show his mod folder together.
 
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forgive me if my understanding is too simplistic, but would accounting for a few extra streams have had any meaningful impact on this number, which is the chance that anyone would ever get this lucky?
Yes, but the odds would have still been astronomical.
 
It's a video game, and just like slot machines this element of the game has been designed to have an average maximum luck limit. If you hit jackpots at the relative rate Dream was getting the result he wanted you bet your ass some large gentlemen are going to suggest that you cash out, leave, and never come back, and your name and drivers license photo are going to be sent to every other casino in the state.
 
tommy tubbo and jschalt are dream friends they are also minecraft youtubers i was searching more about dream dox then i found out about them getting dox by same group ofc rooted so i wanted to know why they also got dox.
Well...It has been strongly hinted that this only gets worse for Dream from here... Maybe these friends are directly involved in what is to come.
 
tommy tubbo and jschalt are dream friends they are also minecraft youtubers i was searching more about dream dox then i found out about them getting dox by same group ofc rooted so i wanted to know why they also got dox.
Probably just because, just like dream got super doxxxxxxxxxxxxed because a person got dared to. I doubt theres some grand conspiracy behind it including all mcyt tards.
 
Then offer it or shut the fuck up.
The mods in speedrun liked him about as much as the avg user in this thread and saw an opportunity to nail him to the wall

You guys seem happy to just stoke the hate boner but does anyone have a concrete reason why the mods would cherry pick a handful of his streams and not test them all?
 
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The mods in speedrun liked him about as much as the avg user in this thread and saw an opportunity to nail him to the wall
So "They're biased, REEE!!!!"

Get the fuck out of here with that mess.

You guys seem happy to just stoke the hate boner but does anyone have a concrete reason why the mods would cherry pick a handful of his streams and not test them all?

Because testing them all wouldn't change the result. It's literally the reason for Occam's Razor. It's a math rule. "Don't make things complicated when more work won't change the result."
 
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The mods in speedrun liked him about as much as the avg user in this thread and saw an opportunity to nail him to the wall

You guys seem happy to just stoke the hate boner but does anyone have a concrete reason why the mods would cherry pick a handful of his streams and not test them all?
Y'know, you've been so eager to defend Dream, but have you ever stopped to take a good look at the arguments made against him? Or have you been too busy writing it all off as hate speech towards your god?

People have done the math and we've seen how Dream's responded. Why do you still insist on going against this?
 
To avoid shitting up the thread too much, this will be my last reply to @StudMccool, who seems to have some glaring literacy/numeracy problems.

If the system of numbers they designed is so robust and according to you his overall sample size is so small why did they not take ALL his streams?
I didn't say the sample size was "so small." This is what I said:
Those streams include 262 piglin trades and 305 blaze kills, each of which is a statistically independent event with a known probability. That's more than enough data to come to a valid conclusion.

They went and looked at his run when he submitted it, went "hmm his trades seem lucky" then went and found 6 other streams and took the BEST RUNS FROM EACH OF THEM NOT ALL OF THEM
No, they used literally every piglin trade and blaze kill in every run from Dream's October speedrun livestreams. I don't know why you still think they cherry picked the best runs from the October streams when I already explained to you a few pages back that they didn't. Their data includes every single run in all six of those streams. I don't know how to state this any more clearly.
So now they have is world record run and 6 more runs that were personal bests of his for each night, add that together and that's 7 runs that were all personal bests. How do you look at that and go "yes an even sample of his runs were gathered"
Again, I have no idea where you're coming up with the idea that they cherry picked the best run from each stream. Also, there was no WR run and Dream only set a single PB on his very last run.
Even if they are 100% correct and he cheated like a black man on an IQ test why not put his other streams through the system of equations to give contrast of how much his luck changed
Ok, I can do that. Outside of the six October livestreams Dream did, the only other 1.16 speedrun streams he did were five streams in July. Let's compare the luck he had in July to the "luck" he had in October.

Here is the paper from Dream's mystery Harvard astrophysicist. This portion has information about Dream's ender pearl trades and blaze rod drops from his five streams in July:
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If you compared Dream's results from his July streams to 100 other Minecraft speedrunners performing the same number of piglin trades and blaze kills, then based on a simple binomial distribution, you'd expect roughly:
  • 86 out of 100 runners would have better pearl luck than Dream
  • 5 out of 100 runners would have equal pearl luck
  • 9 out of 100 runners would have worse pearl luck
  • 13 out of 100 runners would have better blaze rod luck
  • 4 out of 100 runners would have equal blaze rod luck
  • 83 out of 100 runners would have worse blaze rod luck
In other words, Dream was rather unlucky when it came to pearls and rather lucky when it came to blaze rods, but neither value is far enough off the expected values to be suspicious.

Now let's compare that to Dream's luck in October: 42/262 ender pearl trades and 211/305 blaze rod drops. That would mean if you compared Dream to one trillion other runners, or approximately 128x the total human population on Earth, you'd expect roughly:
  • 6 out of the one trillion runners would have better pearl luck than Dream
  • 4 out of the one trillion runners would have equal pearl luck
  • 999,999,999,990 of the one trillion runners would have worse pearl luck
  • 9 out of the one trillion runners would have better blaze rod luck
  • 5 out of the one trillion runners would have equal blaze rod luck
  • 999,999,999,986 of the one trillion runners would have worse blaze rod luck
Is that enough of a contrast in luck from July to October for you? If you still think it's all just cherry picking by vindictive mods, I honestly don't know what to tell you. You might be straight up retarded.
 
Did you hear Dream rented a place and moved in with Sapnap? No one will be at home to receive the dildo lol what a waste
 
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