General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

There's also the fact that there's a difference between dating the women behind the idea of "Cali" and dating Cali. Some weebs subconsciously associate "Cali" with the real person, and don't comprehend that you actually wouldn't be dating a hot af anime grim reaper who'll reap your eternal soul "among other things".

Some weebs have their anti-3dpd goggles on so tight that they view the world as an anime, when in their basement, and never fucking leave. Even if they see the woman behind the woman, they can't believe or see anything but the anime girl character.

Some weebs just mentally have checked out of life and checked into the matrix.
Oh, she's 100% aware of that. She even made a song about it.

"All the guys I wanna screw are into 2D and that's okay 'cuz if I had a dick I'd stick it in something moe"


And people say Senzawa is holding back from going full gremlin as Gura. The day Calli goes full DDK will be glorious.
 
Oh, she's 100% aware of that. She even made a song about it.

"All the guys I wanna screw are into 2D and that's okay 'cuz if I had a dick I'd stick it in something moe"

I was more referring to the people who simp, thinking they want to get together with Cali. Some of them don't understand the differences between "Cali" and Cali.

They can't see reality for what it is, and only can self project their idea of reality onto everything around them. But that's pretty funny that Cali made a song, talking about the guys she wants to screw are all just degenerate weebs. I wonder how the people who're hell bent on only seeing the yuri side to these girls reacted to that, if they found out, considering I don't go out of my way to listen to that kind of music. Like, completely zoning out or flipping their tables over the idea that she might not be their gay queen.

Like, taking those lyrics and applying them whole heartedly to the singer. Since some weebs just take it too far and don't think the lyrics might be a joke.
 
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Very “seito-kaichou”.

Edit: thank you discord for making me remember this disaster

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Miko doesn’t need girl power. She has Trevor Phillips power. (When Cooking Simulator: Meth comes along, she’ll be great at it.)

Since it keeps getting alluded to, can someone explain why Nene isn’t getting any outfits? I didn’t see anything about it and then suddenly everyone else apparently already knows about it.
 
I was more referring to the people who simp, thinking they want to get together with Cali. Some of them don't understand the differences between "Cali" and Cali.

They can't see reality for what it is, and only can self project their idea of reality onto everything around them. But that's pretty funny that Cali made a song, talking about the guys she wants to screw are all just degenerate weebs. I wonder how the people who're hell bent on only seeing the yuri side to these girls reacted to that, if they found out, considering I don't go out of my way to listen to that kind of music. Like, completely zoning out or flipping their tables over the idea that she might not be their gay queen.

Like, taking those lyrics and applying them whole heartedly to the singer. Since some weebs just take it too far and don't think the lyrics might be a joke.
Her music as DDK is highly metaphorical but Gang Gang Kawaii is mostly an absolute shitpost, but may have a bit of truth to it in that she maybe had crushes on guys who were degenerate weebs; I hardly believe she's talking about AO here since she actually really likes the guy and respects his work. We've mentioned before how Karen basically traveled to Japan to start a relationship that never happened and she goes into a lot of her inner struggles but keeps them incredibly vague in her lyrics so they can be applicable to anyone or anything, which is why a lot of people (myself included) think she's an incredible lyricist. Shit like Hazy Skyscraper and Soundless are all about that. Even Veritas is a lot about her feelings of isolation and how traveling to Japan just made things worse until they got better, but they can be applicable to anyone feeling alone.

One thing that was brought up elsewhere is how DDK and Calliope are essentially two different voices of Karen the creator, and how Calli's work split the difference. Please RIP and DEAD BEATS are all Calli, Reaper or Rapper? is more DDK, and Live Again and Cursed Night are full DDK, specificially Kakigori Galaxy Astronaut's DDK.

Most Demondice fans know she's Calli by now (she doesn't exactly hide it, just doesn't name drop herself) while the Calliope fans might know about it due to YT recs but don't actively talk about it to the extent we do here or on some other Discord servers I'm a part of. She tries to be as subtle as possible like when getting the Craps Devil in Shadowverse and saying she "really likes this one" (real fucking subtle, Karen) but other than that, it's the worst kept secret in hololive, even worse than Gura being Senzawa.
 
Like, completely zoning out or flipping their tables over the idea that she might not be their gay queen.
It's funny, because on the Chans we see it going in the opposite direction. There's a contingent of guys who wholeheartedly think that Calli is some full blown, actually autistic tomboy who due to her traumatic upbringing and social awkwardness is a pure, kissless virgin.

Since it keeps getting alluded to, can someone explain why Nene isn’t getting any outfits? I didn’t see anything about it and then suddenly everyone else apparently already knows about it.
It was announced a few weeks ago that Nene would be getting total base costume redesign, and would cause her to miss some concert dates (and now her 3D debut) as a result. The teased silhouette is below. Everyone's basically assume it was to purge the West Taiwan aspects from her design.

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It's funny, because on the Chans we see it going in the opposite direction. There's a contingent of guys who wholeheartedly think that Calli is some full blown, actually autistic tomboy who due to her traumatic upbringing and social awkwardness is a pure, kissless virgin.
I'm honestly nor surprised. There's someone for every kind of mindset. Maybe they thought "wow, she didn't know how to play a kazoo and ended up buying a second one!? She must be autistic", and would probably shit their pants at the idea of Cali and Kiara being a thing.

I find it weird how these people can't ever seem to find any middle ground with these people. Same reason I find yuri and yaoi fans of anime, on the internet, to be absolute tards. With Yaoi, the girls just imagine that even the slightest interest in the same gender is equal to "ew, girls are gross", and for yuri it's where they think even breathing in the same vicinity is the same as saying "SHE'S TOTALLY A DYKE LESBIAN GORILLA", and the idea of males dating girls sends em into a rage.

Of course, then you have the side that thinks everything that isn't gay is straight. So they all balance each other out in the stupid meter, with no middle ground for either party of thought.
 
I'm honestly nor surprised. There's someone for every kind of mindset. Maybe they thought "wow, she didn't know how to play a kazoo and ended up buying a second one!? She must be autistic", and would probably shit their pants at the idea of Cali and Kiara being a thing.

I find it weird how these people can't ever seem to find any middle ground with these people. Same reason I find yuri and yaoi fans of anime, on the internet, to be absolute tards. With Yaoi, the girls just imagine that even the slightest interest in the same gender is equal to "ew, girls are gross", and for yuri it's where they think even breathing in the same vicinity is the same as saying "SHE'S TOTALLY A DYKE LESBIAN GORILLA", and the idea of males dating girls sends em into a rage.

Of course, then you have the side that thinks everything that isn't gay is straight. So they all balance each other out in the stupid meter, with no middle ground for either party of thought.
I hold to the idea somewhat if only because Karen's upbringing basically had her swear off relationships with anyone and the thing with AO fizzled out but we never know. She could have dated in high school or at uni and we'd be none the wiser nor would we care, but I do know people like her and they are kissless virgins.

It's nothing more than pointless speculation but nobody should really give a shit about these girls' sex lives unless it's to make jokes about how someone like Noel likes it rough.
 
I hold to the idea somewhat if only because Karen's upbringing basically had her swear off relationships with anyone and the thing with AO fizzled out but we never know. She could have dated in high school or at uni and we'd be none the wiser nor would we care, but I do know people like her and they are kissless virgins.

It's nothing more than pointless speculation but nobody should really give a shit about these girls' sex lives unless it's to make jokes about how someone like Noel likes it rough.
Inb4 she's like those anime girls who're kissless, and get easily embarrassed by kissing, but easy lays.

I would just find that funny if she was the kind of person who gets flustered at kissing of any kind, but the rest is no big deal.
 
Inb4 she's like those anime girls who're kissless, and get easily embarrassed by kissing, but easy lays.

I would just find that funny if she was the kind of person who gets flustered at kissing of any kind, but the rest is no big deal.
Well, Kiara and Calli did have that conversation after the spa day about Hotsprings that revealed Kiara (the giant raging extrovert) is embarrassed to be seen naked by others and Calli (the resident goofy ass cringelord supreme who regularly gets embarrassed by her own sense of humor) is like "Yea, whatever, it's a body. Who cares?"

I think it's safe to say everyone would have assumed it was the complete opposite if you'd have asked us beforehand.
 
Use thumbnails in the future, please.
It feels oddly fitting that he pick Gura
Late but now that I think about it, Gura has been over legal drinking age for a few years. She's probably older than CallMeCarson, ironically enough.
It's funny, because on the Chans we see it going in the opposite direction. There's a contingent of guys who wholeheartedly think that Calli is some full blown, actually autistic tomboy who due to her traumatic upbringing and social awkwardness is a pure, kissless virgin.
I mean, she's comfortable enough to stream, talk to Gigguk, move to a foreign country and teach english there. It's obvious that she has a bold streak. Regarding purity she doesn't betray enough to decisively say either way, it's equally likely she had her share of romance in high school and that she didn't. I would lean towards the latter, though, because she strikes me as the type who would wait for "the right one".
but other than that, it's the worst kept secret in hololive, even worse than Gura being Senzawa.
Probably not. It's easy to forget when Calli gets discussed a lot here, but Senzawa was a massively popular meme in her own right with 25M views on one of her videos. It's so much that people even argued that Gura's 1M subs were unfair, since she brought over her previous fanbase.

Also, real subtle, Playboard.
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Late but now that I think about it, Gura has been over legal drinking age for a few years. She's probably older than CallMeCarson, ironically enough.
Her favorite game from her childhood came out in 2003. If she were 8 at the time, she'd be 25-ish now.
 
I'm not surprised that someone with low self-esteem like Karen would be into degenerate weeboids. I always got the sense that she felt really anxious about how unstable a lot of things in her life are and it makes sense that she'd prefer a low-value partner who's unlikely to leave her. You see the same thing with attractive dudes who only date unattractive women because they're anxious about being abandoned.

Unfortunately for Karen, the 2010s have been kind of a shitshow for men psychologically, so low-value men have basically just checked out to play video games and watch anime and shit.
 
Man y'all should really stop referring to Melody as "Mel" because for a moment i thought you guys were talking about Yozora Mel and i get worried
Agreed, I usually refer to the banpire as Nightmare or MeruMeru for that reason.

Also, I can always take it to games, but I’ve been considering getting into either Valorant or Apex so I can understand what the girls are doing when they play, but I am mediocre at most FPS games, so I am concerned about ruining others’ fun since it’s small teams. Basically just curious how much being a weak link might kill it for others
 
Now that i think of it, the Vtuber industry/medium/community(?) is the only one i can think of where the corporate ones have better attitude than the indies

Sure, there's all that shit with Hololive, but whenever some controversy among them happens, it doesn't feel like it was due to internal drama between the talents but instead because of bad circumstances happening to them thats out of the talent's control. And yeah, Cover fucks up, but Yagoo is genuinely trying to do better

Ichikara is shady from what ive read and there is some talent drama here and there but there are so many Nijisanji talents that i doubt the majority of them are drama seekers.

Signal is probably the worst one but that ship has sunk, proving that shitty practices won't last in this industry. Plus, the (now former) talents from there seem pretty nice

feel free to correct me if im wrong though
 
Now that i think of it, the Vtuber industry/medium/community(?) is the only one i can think of where the corporate ones have better attitude than the indies
I think it's important to note too that it's a Japanese corporate group. Important, because the Japanese corps know to tell their talent to keep their fucking mouths shut about controversial issues, and just do their damn jobs of being entertaining. An American equivalent wouldn't have the balls to publicly call them out on keeping shit quiet, and we'd have Chuubas with "Wakanda Forever" banners, and Antifa flags in the background.
 
Sure, there's all that shit with Hololive, but whenever some controversy among them happens, it doesn't feel like it was due to internal drama between the talents but instead because of bad circumstances happening to them thats out of the talent's control.
Yeah, one of the miracles of Hololive's talent procurement is that they've somehow assembled a sizable stable of female talent that all seem to be mutually supportive and not trying to tear each other down to become the queen bee. Put an equivalent number of actresses or models in the same group and blood would be spilled within the week.
 
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