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[DeadFish]

So what you're saying is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_mpt8xyZVI is the Trump fan theme now?

No one was a fan of trump. Not even those who voted for him.
He was made by a movement. He didnt create it

 

[It's HK-47]

Maybe that many people voted Biden and the speculation of fraud was just bad timing at that particular moment. Everything just fell together. Who even knows anymore?

They certainly didn't do themselves any favors with that coup.

I think MAGA will join the Confederate flag as a negative mark in American history. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Best they can do is a third party.

I think that the blind spot that a lot of people had--myself included-- was that Biden did not actually have any support to speak of, and that's why we couldn't find it anywhere. Nobody really likes him, nobody really cares about him, but they voted for him because they don't like Trump for one reason or another. I think that were it not for the lockdowns, Trump would have easily swept this election, but whenever something bad happens, the population tends to blame the man in charge.

They don't care that the lockdowns were driven at the local level, they don't care that Trump was the first person to even start talking about it, they don't care that Trump repeatedly offered them solutions like hydroxowhatever and "bleach injections" and Project Warp Speed which is the only reason that we got the vaccines as quickly as we did despite everyone saying it was impossible, they only care that Trump was in charge, ergo everything is his fault.

Clearly, I disagree with this and I'm not happy that he lost the election, but I'm not going to dye my hair blue, put on 300 pounds and start screaming about it. You don't always get what you want. C'est la vie.

 

[The Last Stand]

I think that the blind spot that a lot of people had--myself included-- was that Biden did not actually have any support to speak of, and that's why we couldn't find it anywhere. Nobody really likes him, nobody really cares about him, but they voted for him because they don't like Trump for one reason or another. I think that were it not for the lockdowns, Trump would have easily swept this election, but whenever something bad happens, the population tends to blame the man in charge.

The spin I'm hearing about Biden's "lack of support" relates to Coronavirus. He deliberately didn't hold many rallies because of social distancing. But, you're right about everything else. More people are talking about Harris than Biden. I'm sure the same people that got him in will turn on him for Harris within a year or so.

Biden could've worked as a centrist candidate if he was younger and was a better orator. Have you heard him speak lately? Maybe even a worthy opponent against Trump in '16. Now? He's nothing really special; worse, he's years of the same old, same old when the country is particularly fractured.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. The Tea Party got buried way faster than this, and it was a much smaller threat to the establishment.

You think this movement is going to be buried so easily, especially when the lockdowns aren't looking to end anytime soon? Always remember: "it's the economy, stupid".

This movement is only going to grow. If it outgrows Trump himself in the process, there's simply nothing that anyone can do about it. The "bad optics" of being an "insurrectionist" are going to be vastly overshadowed by being unable to feed yourself because the lockdowns killed your job and the government stimulus check hasn't come yet.

 

[The Last Stand]

You think this movement is going to be buried so easily, especially when the lockdowns aren't looking to end anytime soon?

This movement is only going to grow. If it outgrows Trump himself in the process, there's simply nothing that anyone can do about it. The "bad optics" of being an "insurrectionist" are going to be vastly overshadowed by being unable to feed yourself because the lockdowns killed your job and the government stimulus check hasn't come yet.

Y'all have literally turned on Pence the day Trump disavowed him with the election results.

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Nope, I threw all the babies out with all of the bathwater I could find about a month ago. Everyone went maximum retard and I just quit caring. It was Trump's election to lose and he's done nothing but act completely ridiculous ever since. I was willing to sit down and have a listen right after the election happened because the numbers looked incredibly odd, but the more questions I kept asking the more we were all told to just wait and see.

This deadline is when it happens, that deadline is when it happens, this next deadline is totally for real this time. Show up to D.C. on the 6th, that's when all the shit's going to hit the fan okay thanks go home now. Also at some point Rudy's hair melted, I think? I just dropped the whole thing on the floor and walked away. The only reason I dug in so deep to begin with is because I kept finding rational progressions to different arguments, and when all of that was replaced with Lin Wood-tier raving literally overnight it got rid of the only reason I was in the camp to begin with.

As it stands, as far as I'm concerned, he lost the election, he lost every court case, he lost every appeal, the Supreme Court threw out his argument, most of the "evidence" presented for voter fraud is stuff that happens every single election that's actually completely normal and above-board but it looks abnormal to someone who doesn't know how the processes actually work, and even though there were instances of fraud, it wasn't on the scale that would have made a difference on a national level. If it was, these people have some fucking psychotic OpSec because they managed to score more than 10,000,000 votes without a single person screwing it up. Then, on top of that, today he brought everyone down to D.C. even though he knew it was going to turn into a shit-show, because these things always turn into shit-shows.

I know it's not the answer that people want to hear, maybe by some monsterous stretch of a miracle there's something fascinating in the works at the 59th minute of the 11th hour, but I'm sorry, I just don't see it anymore. Every single legal avenue has been exhausted apart from things that are so off-the-wall that even I won't bother walking down that road unless I see pigs sailing past my window.

This whole thing has just become increasingly embarrassing and I've just stopped paying much attention to it.

I think this describes my feelings towards the election pretty well too. I was never a Trump supporter at the beginning and only reluctantly drifted into his camp because of how unhinged the left was behaving, and since he lost the 'here's how he can still win' antics have just become more and more alienating. I know everyone's sick of Republicucks that just want to lose with dignity but frankly after nearly two months with nothing to show for it I don't know what else there is to do. Making career politicians shit their pants in terror is based but when the dust settles this is pretty much a disaster for whatever movement Trump had behind him.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Y'all have literally turned on Pence the day Trump disavowed him with the election results.

You're assuming that I somehow "depended on" or put all my hopes in Pence in the first place. I didn't.

 

[MirrorNoir]

This is why we need wars. So that people who would otherwise end up faggot-posting in online communities get some valuable real world experience. What could some college-indoctrinated soybeard who's never paid a single cent of tax in his life possibly know about how politics actually functions? I'll bet $1000 that none of the people who post at TV tropes have ever been in any kind of a serious street fight. This is why modern day media writers suck. They don't know how people (outside of their own little solipsistic circles) work. The essays in the above excerpt come off as the deluded ramblings of a dying science fiction civilization's corrupt intellectual class.

There will never be another draft/universal conscription because both the Democrats and Republicans, after Vietnam, realized that the best way to kill the anti-war movement is to remove the middle class's skin in the game of war by way of making the military 100% voluntary so that THEY (((IE the middle class) can sleep soundly knowing THEIR kids will never have to go to war and die/be maimed and that if any poor people die/get maimed in war, they can take sociopath "comfort" knowing "they signed up for it" and that it doesn't affect them since they are from the segment in society where military service takes on a desperation style nature to it as far as poor people joining the military as their only means of getting into college or having a steady paycheck.

Especially after Afghanistan/Iraq War debuted the idea of basically turning the National Guard into endless cannon fodder, with stop-loss and mandatory 3-5 tours of duty for guardsmen who were expected to fill the gaping manpower shortage in the main military forces as the war dragged on and on.

If war broke out again, they'd do the exact same thing: use the military they have and use the national guard (and stop-loss in general) to deal with manpower shortages, while amping up recruitment among the poor, while keeping the Tumblr/TV Trope fags and their parents sedated and reduced to small scale impotent protests if that, while telling the nation that they'll never bring back the draft because our "all volunteer army" is doing "a hell of a job!".....

As for the floor show that happened today; I would not be shocked if the invasion of the Capital is going to be the DNC's version of the Reichstag Fire in that they will use it to excuse all sorts of fascist style censorship, silencing, arrests, life destroying, and "vanishings".

Would not be shocked if we start seeing people go missing in the next year, along with a Venezuela style public blacklist (where people who put their names to a petition for a failed recall of the corrupt as fuck Venezuela President had their lives destroyed and were turned into a pariah class who couldn't be employed or receive any sort of government benefits, etc). To the extent that I seriously fear that the DNC and the left will do this to people who voted for Trump once Biden gets sworn in and the voting rolls get "leaked" to people like the Sleeping Giants and other extortion groups.

 

[Sexyphobe]

As it stands, as far as I'm concerned, he lost the election, he lost every court case, he lost every appeal, the Supreme Court threw out his argument, most of the "evidence" presented for voter fraud is stuff that happens every single election that's actually completely normal and above-board but it looks abnormal to someone who doesn't know how the processes actually work, and even though there were instances of fraud, it wasn't on the scale that would have made a difference on a national level. If it was, these people have some fucking psychotic OpSec because they managed to score more than 10,000,000 votes without a single person screwing it up. Then, on top of that, today he brought everyone down to D.C. even though he knew it was going to turn into a shit-show, because these things always turn into shit-shows.

I know it's not the answer that people want to hear, maybe by some monsterous stretch of a miracle there's something fascinating in the works at the 59th minute of the 11th hour, but I'm sorry, I just don't see it anymore. Every single legal avenue has been exhausted apart from things that are so off-the-wall that even I won't bother walking down that road unless I see pigs sailing past my window.

This whole thing has just become increasingly embarrassing and I've just stopped paying much attention to it.

You contradict yourself by saying that Trump got every case of his thrown out, not investigated much, and then stating that the levels of fraud wouldn't be enough to overturn an election. We don't really know that, as nothing was ever looked at with more than a moments glance.

The weird upspikes in votes at 3am, dead people voting and mailmen openly saying they threw ballets out (if that's true that's another story, but that's my point, little investigation) show someone did screw up. Mail-ins, of course, is their insurance.

Don't know if Biden officially won, and if he's sworn in I'll begrudgingly accept it, but since any attempts to look into this were blown off immediately, I can't just say he legitimately won.

 

[It's HK-47]

Y'all have literally turned on Pence the day Trump disavowed him with the election results.

Mike "Lost the Election? No Insurrection" Pence
Mike "No Voter Fraud for the Son of God" Pence
Mike "Dominion Machine is Trump's Guillotine " Pence
Mike "Biden for President is Now Evident" Pence

Man, I'm going to miss the Pence memes. Those were fun.

 

[Jarolleon]

You think this movement is going to be buried so easily, especially when the lockdowns aren't looking to end anytime soon? Always remember: "it's the economy, stupid".

This movement is only going to grow. If it outgrows Trump himself in the process, there's simply nothing that anyone can do about it. The "bad optics" of being an "insurrectionist" are going to be vastly overshadowed by being unable to feed yourself because the lockdowns killed your job and the government stimulus check hasn't come yet.

The problem is that the establishment can simply wait the movement out due to it skewing older. Younger people who are pissed at the economic effects of globalism tend to go towards socialism instead, because they've been too frog-boiled to really care about the cultural effects. Though if the movement adapts to the gripes of younger generations as they age it could at least be something future politicians dogwhistle to.

 

[mandatorylurk]

MAGA will be like BLM, go quiet for a bit and come back twice as hard.

People are already starting to remember that there were the Kavanaugh hearings where the Senate building was taken over by protestors, and the already apparent six months of riots in cities. As people also realize the capitol police are the ones who killed the woman, and three other people supposedly died today, the resentment will build up again. 30 people died in the riots and the left/media didn’t give a shit, and they’ve quickly leapt to back the blue when someone with a red hat was killed.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. The Tea Party got buried way faster than this, and it was a much smaller threat to the establishment.

Not really; it pulled off a HUGE bloodbath decimating the old guard GOP associated with the Bush/Neocon era and more to the point, derailed Obama's entire first term and had a major butterfly effect on how shit went down: the Tea Party basically allowed the GOP to claim the populist title from the Democrats/Obama-ites, which caused many Obama-ites to create Occupy Wall-Street to reclaim the populist mantle from the Tea Party and this in turn led to Obama unleashing the kraken that was identity politics anti-life equation upon humanity to squash both OWS and the Tea Party, by putting the left under a fascist woke banner that hated the Tea Party for their racism but ESPECIALLY hated OWS because they DARED call out left wing corruption.

The Neocon/Never Trumpers probably put a LOT of the blame on Trump for the Tea Party creating the first real blowback against the GOP establishment and created the crack that Trump used to get inside and hijack the party by taking the Tea Party message and sanding off the worst, beyond the pale aspects and making it safe for housewives and moderates. And the lunatic left ESPECIALLY blame the Tea Party for creating such a fucking scene that it put so much of the fear into Obama, that he moved to the right/center right because the Tea Party and their ranting/raving made him think that the nation wasn't ready for the hyper communism that the lunatic left wanted Obama to put into law ASAP.

In that regards, you could make the case easily that the Tea Party is why we are in this situation we are in now. Especially if you take the stance that Gamergate itself was a byproduct of Obama and his ilk wanting to use identity politics to use as a cudgel against the Tea Party and other forms of populism like Occupy Wall Street, the later of which was a direct response/rebuke of the Tea Party's evil elements.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

MAGA will be like BLM, go quiet for a bit and come back twice as hard.

People are already starting to remember that there were the Kavanaugh hearings where the Senate building was taken over by protestors, and the already apparent six months of riots in cities. As people also realize the capitol police are the ones who killed the woman, and three other people supposedly died today, the resentment will build up again. 30 people died in the riots and the left/media didn’t give a shit, and they’ve quickly leapt to back the blue when someone with a red hat was killed.

They were going to drop BLM and Antifa like a bad habit regardless. At least until the next midterms.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I think that the blind spot that a lot of people had--myself included-- was that Biden did not actually have any support to speak of, and that's why we couldn't find it anywhere. Nobody really likes him, nobody really cares about him, but they voted for him because they don't like Trump for one reason or another. I think that were it not for the lockdowns, Trump would have easily swept this election, but whenever something bad happens, the population tends to blame the man in charge.

They don't care that the lockdowns were driven at the local level, they don't care that Trump was the first person to even start talking about it, they don't care that Trump repeatedly offered them solutions like hydroxowhatever and "bleach injections" and Project Warp Speed which is the only reason that we got the vaccines as quickly as we did despite everyone saying it was impossible, they only care that Trump was in charge, ergo everything is his fault.

Clearly, I disagree with this and I'm not happy that he lost the election, but I'm not going to dye my hair blue, put on 300 pounds and start screaming about it. You don't always get what you want. C'est la vie.

I think it also didn't help there were riots and not much about them was controlled well like Trump probably should've used the insurrection act back then.

It also didn't help Biden successfully worked to be branded as a generic democrat as he kept himself hidden since I think his team was relying on Trump shooting himself on the foot which worked out well for them. People also had many valid reasons to hate Trump even before COVID.

But I do definitely agree that if COVID didn't happen, Trump would win but it happened which led to unprecedented violence caused by the camp fever the lockdowns have been giving Americans.

As for why they blame Trump, that's just how leadership works, this is a dumb movie but this quote rings true

 

[The Last Stand]

It's quite funny watching the Right say "Fuck the Blue" during the coup when the cops didn't even put up much of a fight.

I'm confused.

 

[Private Pyle]

Trump and the right were the biggest losers in all this.

 

[Josterman]

Here is that DC lawyer

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

It's quite funny watching the Right say "Fuck the Blue" during the coup when the cops didn't even put up much of a fight.

I'm confused.

I dunno they did shoot someone dead. Remember that?

Not that I neccesarily think they were in the wrong for that.

 

[Private Pyle]

Here is that DC lawyer

Where’s the lie though?