Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

Nah they will more than likely think Trump was a false prophet out to deceive them and make some inane conspiracy he was a satanist all along.
I can’t wait for the first “heeeeey, why was trump hanging out with Epstein so much?” to drop from that crowd.

I’m personally enjoying the trump family exile from high society. A family of professional socialites who’s next gala invite will likely be a cooler of naty ice in the unheated garage of some Midwest redneck.
“more venison jerky Ivanka? I saved y’all the backstrap.”.
 
Personally this is more equivalent to the 1968 DNC riots than Sargon's UKIP shenanigans. This will definitely make the republican party look bad for awhile but I think they'll recover because it is hard to destroy a major political party despite how many people claim the opposite. The equivalent of a Sargon incident in America is if a major lolcow tried to run for poltiical leadership in the Libertarian or Green party.

However the lack of self awareness is fucking stupid and I get from their perspective why they'd assume the rioters were ANTIFA in disguise but objectively it was the brainlets on their own side and people would have the right to blame Trump because he was encouraging lots of people to come to Washington D.C. on January 6th.
It's worth pointing out that after 1968 the Democrats would hold the presidency for one term of the next six. And that one term was probably because of Watergate. The following two decades would also include two almost complete election wipeouts in 72, and 84 (and a severe thrashing in 68, 80, and 84). By the time the Democrats finally broke that streak in the 90s I don't think that any Democrats from the early 60s would even recognize the party.

Granted, that was just the presidency, Democrats did control Congress for almost all of that (with supermajorities for a lot of it), but it seems that as a national party the Democrats were a non-entity for decades after the riots. I'll admit that I'm basing all of this theorizing on gut feelings and Wikipedia articles, but I feel like the modern political structure is far more dependent on national presence and so the collapse of the national party would be a lot worse today than it was back then.
 
I’m personally enjoying the trump family exile from high society. A family of professional socialites who’s next gala invite will likely be a cooler of naty ice in the unheated garage of some Midwest redneck.
“more venison jerky Ivanka? I saved y’all the backstrap.”.
You know what's crazy about all this is that if Trump had never decided to run for president he'd be in a much better place than he is now.

He was essentially driven by his ego. He decided to run as a lark, just as he had done in 2012, and in a Springtime-for-Hitler situation he won. Of course, now he's in too deep to leave the office and not get indicted for something, and he's burned all his bridges - with high society, with the Republican Party, with just about everybody. He's going to be a pariah.

He killed the goose that laid the golden eggs and now he's got nothing.
 
I can’t wait for the first “heeeeey, why was trump hanging out with Epstein so much?” to drop from that crowd.

I’m personally enjoying the trump family exile from high society. A family of professional socialites who’s next gala invite will likely be a cooler of naty ice in the unheated garage of some Midwest redneck.
“more venison jerky Ivanka? I saved y’all the backstrap.”.
I honestly doubt the family would be forever fucked, the only one I can see be fucked in the future is Don Jr, since he was the most politically ambitious of Trump's family and likely the biggest sperg. Everyone else will likely try to go on damage control with some degree of success. Trump himself is the most fucked because he probably had the biggest wake up call that some of his supporters are capable of acting demented and will either just do some autistic political things for post-presidency, go back to doing most of the things he did before running, or retire.

I am interested though who will be the next republican that can generate the cult of personality Trump has since these people treated Trump like a God and he at least won which further fueled their beliefs. Hell the same can be said for the democrats on who can be the next "revolutionary" like Bernie since 2016 was the year when both of these cult of personalities formed except one got more power.
 
I honestly doubt the family would be forever fucked, the only one I can see be fucked in the future is Don Jr, since he was the most politically ambitious of Trump's family and likely the biggest sperg. Everyone else will likely try to go on damage control with some degree of success. Trump himself is the most fucked because he probably had the biggest wake up call that some of his supporters are capable of acting demented and will either just do some autistic political things for post-presidency, go back to doing most of the things he did before running, or retire.

I am interested though who will be the next republican that can generate the cult of personality Trump has since these people treated Trump like a God and he at least won which further fueled their beliefs. Hell the same can be said for the democrats on who can be the next "revolutionary" like Bernie since 2016 was the year when both of these cult of personalities formed except one got more power.
I don’t know, between the Mara largo community wanting them gone and an article I just read saying the upper east side want nothing to do with anybody named trump? Where to go next? Look no further than the response by the GOP in the past 24 hours to see that loyalty ain’t that tax brackets strong suit. You got former friends dishing on them everywhere, people literally texting Ivanka “I’m sorry I even attended your wedding”. This is the power crowd, and the trumps lost a significant portion of their power this week. That leaves no reason for them to keep them on the guest list. Even more so if trump does become embroiled in years of litigation after he’s out. Knowing them is a liability now.
 
I honestly doubt the family would be forever fucked, the only one I can see be fucked in the future is Don Jr, since he was the most politically ambitious of Trump's family and likely the biggest sperg.
I have heard rumors of Ivanka running for something Florida, but I don't picture it going far now.
 
Which is more likely?

1: A secret organization of Satan worshipping, child raping, cannibalistic DEMONRATS were able to hack all the voting machines in 'Merica and leave behind so little evidence that Trump's lawyer had to rely on a drunk who cleaned off the screens for a day to provide 'proof'. Everyone else, from other Republicans to Trump's Supreme Court picks to Mike Pence are all in the pocket of these DEMONRATS and so don't call foul on the shenanigans.

Then, a fake Trump impersonator hosts a fake rally on January 6th at the same time and place that Trump and his fans have been talking about for weeks. Only AntiFa and BLM attend this fake Trump's fake rally, wherein fake Trump tells them to storm the Capitol to make real Trump and his supporters look crazy. AntiFa and BLM, which consist almost entirely of CisHet White Men without a single pink hair dyed feminist amongst them, then DO storm the Capitol. Additionally, lots of them manage to both look enough like known Trump supporters and be able to hack their Parler or Twitter accounts to post selfies during the act.

The following day, the DEMONRATS create a Deepfake of Trump saying things his supporters don't like.

Or,

2: A lot of people don't like Trump and voted against him.
Honestly the fraud narrative probably came because of how unprecedented of a shitstorm of an election this is in terms of having mail-in ballots and during an ongoing pandemic. This one was managed differently than previous ones and given most of the people who were into the fraud narrative were people who don't understand the changes well, really gullible, or this being the first election they bothered with it really could be persuasive enough to convince anyone unfamiliar with things. I used to think fraud happened but now it's clear that it isn't wide-scale but the confusion is probably from a lack of transparency and new changes.

Election reform should happen but it's not for the conspiracies but so that not even a dumbass can doubt anything in the future with proper reforms so the shitshow of the 2020 election never repeats itself. This was Trump's election to lose from his subpar handling of COVID (the only thing he got right was the vaccine being ready by the end of the year), his shitty control of the riots, and saying dumb shit at inappropriate times during the most paranoia-inducing year ever really hurt him. Honestly any Democrat except for Bernie/Warren/Kamala (if she was the head nominee) could've easily won with all this shit in their favor, and Biden was generic enough that the worse scandals have his son more involved than him. COVID was the Achilles heel that came unexpectedly and we would be in a different place if it had not happened.

tl;dr A pandemic can create so much election chaos more than anyone else ever.
 
I’ll tell you what’s almost as obnoxious as the Trump worship are the people who are crying about how the Dems have the White House and both branches of the legislature and the Republicans will never have a majority again and the Dems will be locking up Republicans and shit.

Motherfucker, 2008 was not that long ago, I know you were alive during it, shut the fuck up. TWO YEARS it lasted, and Dems got fuckall done. They got exactly one watered down piece of healthcare coverage passed which was already fucked and the parts that weren‘t fucked got fucked in the following years.
 
I’ll tell you what’s almost as obnoxious as the Trump worship are the people who are crying about how the Dems have the White House and both branches of the legislature and the Republicans will never have a majority again.

Motherfucker, 2008 was not that long ago, I know you were alive during it, shut the fuck up.
It’s extra obnoxious since trump lost it for them. With one perfect phone call. I remember post November elections, Georgia staying red and the GOP controlling the house was practically a forgone conclusion.
 
A close family friend of my folks was high up at the IRS. The stories are exactly what you'd expect. People coming into audits with 100 pages they printed off wingnut.freedom.biz ready to debate their way out of paying taxes, fat rednecks showing up in all camo to the lobby in some autistic protest until they find out the hard way the FBI has shared office space in the building, guys who declared their rural abode a sovereign nation, etc. He was a pretty intimidating guy, two tours in Nam so they always sent him to deal with the hard asses. I always pry him for new wingnut stories when I see him. My favorite so far is the guy who told them something to the effect of "if the government wants to cease my property they are welcome to try," with a threatening tone then dude takes out his planner flips through a few pages and is like, "okay is next Thursday at noon good?" Two days later the check showed up and the guy wrote "fuck you [name]" in the memo spot. All bark these guys.
Even the joker is scared of the IRS.

 
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It’s extra obnoxious since trump lost it for them. With one perfect phone call. I remember post November elections, Georgia staying red and the GOP controlling the house was practically a forgone conclusion.
Eh I don't think it was Trump's blubbering but McConnel fucking over the 2000 dollar stimulus that cost the Republicans the Senate.

Turns out people don't like being told that giving them aid during a crisis is a socialist plot to ruin America.
 
I’ll tell you what’s almost as obnoxious as the Trump worship are the people who are crying about how the Dems have the White House and both branches of the legislature and the Republicans will never have a majority again and the Dems will be locking up Republicans and shit.

Motherfucker, 2008 was not that long ago, I know you were alive during it, shut the fuck up. TWO YEARS it lasted, and Dems got fuckall done. They got exactly one watered down piece of healthcare coverage passed which was already fucked and the parts that weren‘t fucked got fucked in the following years.
The irony is these people crying about the Dems having both branches of the legislature should realize three things:

1. Republicans have made massive gains in the House.
2. The Senate was fucked because McConnell acted really retarded by pushing for $600 stimulus a week before and idiots not even bothering to vote thinking it will fix something.
3. Trump kept shooting himself in the foot.

The other thing is that while the Democrats are more united they are still in an ideological divide which will get worse without Trump being a common enemy. But then again doomers are not known for thinking about the future
 
Today probably made a whole bunch of newly-minted atheists out of Trump supporters who tied the Bible/Christ to Trump along with other conservative stuff like guns and all that.
For those truly too far deep in delusion, January 20th is their day to become disillusioned and possibly minecraft irl.
You know how a lot of people are culturally jewish, and sortof just practice the holidays and some of the food and decorations? I think a lot of the "evangelical" group leans that way as well, so the people who praised him as their savior... didn't actually believe that, but expressing that nonsensical statement is just, like, a cultural behavior, an in-group thing. The ones who genuinely saw him as their savior, top to bottom, genuinely an agent of god, are probably buried in a million ways to excuse their own blasphemy as-is -- IE, trump truly was an agent of god, but the democratic pedophiles channeled satan power to beat us.
I am interested though who will be the next republican that can generate the cult of personality Trump has since these people treated Trump like a God and he at least won which further fueled their beliefs.
I think @ConfederateIrishman had expressed some jubilation that this turned into a wet fart and Donald's image as GEOTUS has been permanently tarnished, as this might lead the right not to fall for star or idol or savior candidates once again, and instead focus in on... well, whatever priorities it determines most important, and getting someone who will actually DO them (rather than just have aides identify them and then speak them off). Maybe this can also teach people that it's a full-package thing: a lot of trump court picks pleased conservatives, but his political machine really wasn't great for populists specifically.
Honestly the fraud narrative probably came because of how unprecedented of a shitstorm of an election this is in terms of having mail-in ballots and during an ongoing pandemic. This one was managed differently than previous ones and given most of the people who were into the fraud narrative were people who don't understand the changes well, really gullible, or this being the first election they bothered with it really could be persuasive enough to convince anyone unfamiliar with things. I used to think fraud happened but now it's clear that it isn't wide-scale but the confusion is probably from a lack of transparency and new changes.

Election reform should happen but it's not for the conspiracies but so that not even a dumbass can doubt anything in the future with proper reforms so the shitshow of the 2020 election never repeats itself. This was Trump's election to lose from his subpar handling of COVID (the only thing he got right was the vaccine being ready by the end of the year), his shitty control of the riots, and saying dumb shit at inappropriate times during the most paranoia-inducing year ever really hurt him. Honestly any Democrat except for Bernie/Warren/Kamala (if she was the head nominee) could've easily won with all this shit in their favor, and Biden was generic enough that the worse scandals have his son more involved than him. COVID was the Achilles heel that came unexpectedly and we would be in a different place if it had not happened.

tl;dr A pandemic can create so much election chaos more than anyone else ever.
For all of my shitposting in the politisperg threads and baiting to get mad, I fundamentally understand the perception that such an election would be vulnerable to fraud -- I had it. I thought mail-in ballots were going to be a complete shitshow, in part because the postal service is a complete shitshow and several points through the summer had said it was not going to have enough money and personnel to get the thing done. The logistics of poor counties with few postal workers and a lot of distance to cover, of ridiculously overpopulated cities... And even beyond the mail-in, our electoral systems and processes are woefully out of date-- especially for a "superpower." There are a lot of things that can be done to increase transparency, faith in the system, security, etc.

But fuckery with this system would be visible and noticeable. As I've pleaded before, I read a good number of the suits (at least skimming), I looked at the data, the charts, the videos. I was open to Trump's claims of fraud for a good solid week or so after the election, and then I started to feel he was taking us for a ride. He lucked out with that, in this regard -- any other year and he'd have been laughed out, but he got to grift for a solid two months afterwards, shell out tons to his friends, and... ah, shit, he got high on his own supply and managed to somehow ruin it.

And I'd really love to see those changes, but it seems like people will genuinely just forget about them in two weeks. All this fucking idiocy damaged the cause of election reform - look at what these doomers are spouting and screaming. Not "fix the system maybe BEFORE the election, not AFTER," but rather "LEAVE the system." The victimhood complex has induced learned helplessness upon them, which they believe can only be broken by... I don't really know what the plan is.
 
You know how a lot of people are culturally jewish, and sortof just practice the holidays and some of the food and decorations? I think a lot of the "evangelical" group leans that way as well, so the people who praised him as their savior... didn't actually believe that, but expressing that nonsensical statement is just, like, a cultural behavior, an in-group thing. The ones who genuinely saw him as their savior, top to bottom, genuinely an agent of god, are probably buried in a million ways to excuse their own blasphemy as-is -- IE, trump truly was an agent of god, but the democratic pedophiles channeled satan power to beat us.

I think @ConfederateIrishman had expressed some jubilation that this turned into a wet fart and Donald's image as GEOTUS has been permanently tarnished, as this might lead the right not to fall for star or idol or savior candidates once again, and instead focus in on... well, whatever priorities it determines most important, and getting someone who will actually DO them (rather than just have aides identify them and then speak them off). Maybe this can also teach people that it's a full-package thing: a lot of trump court picks pleased conservatives, but his political machine really wasn't great for populists specifically.

Personally I think the most positive impact Trump will have in terms of politics long-term and not specific policies is that he showed that you don't need to be a politician or super experienced to be elected to public office and showed the GOP the target demographic they should be trying to focus on as before Trump came, the GOP was in an even worse state of having constant dick measuring contests over who is the most conservative. Trump was both the best and worst thing to have happened to the GOP.
 
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Personally I think the most positive impact Trump will have in terms of politics long-term and not specific policies is that he showed that you don't need to be a politician or super experienced to be elected to public office and showed the GOP the target demographic they should be trying to focus on as before Trump came, the GOP was in an even worse state of having constant dick measuring contests over who is the most conservative. Trump was both the best and worst thing to have happened to the GOP.
I think almost everything you said here about Trump and the right can be applied to AOC and the left. No political experience, new way of thinking, focuses on the target demographics the Democrats should be focusing on, etc.

Not really relevant, I guess, but it is kinda true.
 
Personally I think the most positive impact Trump will have in terms of politics long-term and not specific policies is that he showed that you don't need to be a politician or super experienced to be elected to public office and showed the GOP the target demographic they should be trying to focus on as before Trump came, the GOP was in an even worse state of having constant dick measuring contests over who is the most conservative. Trump was both the best and worst thing to have happened to the GOP.
Haven't Reagan and Schwarzenegger shown that before?
It's hard to consider the demographic thing. Trump won the primary because the mainstream vote was split as badly as it was; he just had the most steady base while the others cannibalized themselves. but he was also able to convert the vast majority of republicans and brought another blue dog wave with him. Romney's loss to Obama wasn't really that close, and the media did go fairly hard in the paint on the most boring and clean Republican they found to run.

If Trump doesn't start up his own party, I really don't know what to expect. He got a bunch of people that were lifelong GOP and were okay-enough with the party to absolutely, rabidly despise it. If his brand is too bad to start up a party, he'd have to play kingmaker. But there's no-one I know of that could really replicate what he did -- dude's a master hypnotist.
 
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A lot of people don't like Trump and voted against him.
I don’t know why so many find that hard to believe especially considering he lost the popular vote once before. Personally, I think of the presidential election as being kinda like football in that the electoral college votes are like scoring points while getting the popular vote is akin to gaining yards and converting on third downs. Sure, a team can win by having more turnovers, less total yards of offense, and getting less first downs, but statistically they shouldn’t.
Eh I don't think it was Trump's blubbering but McConnel fucking over the 2000 dollar stimulus that cost the Republicans the Senate.

Turns out people don't like being told that giving them aid during a crisis is a socialist plot to ruin America.
Why not both? McConnel being cheap certainly hurt and Trump demanding to find more votes was damaging too.
 
I think almost everything you said here about Trump and the right can be applied to AOC and the left. No political experience, new way of thinking, focuses on the target demographics the Democrats should be focusing on, etc.

Not really relevant, I guess, but it is kinda true.
True this was more on the right but what AOC and such did was a result of Bernie's popularity having an impact despite the man being a grifter who has conned dumb college kids who believe he'll save them.

Haven't Reagan and Schwarzenegger shown that before?
It's hard to consider the demographic thing. Trump won the primary because the mainstream vote was split as badly as it was; he just had the most steady base while the others cannibalized themselves. but he was also able to convert the vast majority of republicans and brought another blue dog wave with him. Romney's loss to Obama wasn't really that close, and the media did go fairly hard in the paint on the most boring and clean Republican they found to run.

If Trump doesn't start up his own party, I really don't know what to expect. He got a bunch of people that were lifelong GOP and were okay-enough with the party to absolutely, rabidly despise it. If his brand is too bad to start up a party, he'd have to play kingmaker. But there's no-one I know of that could really replicate what he did -- dude's a master hypnotist.
That's fair enough, Trump was just a more in your face scale of being someone with no political experience elected to the most powerful position in America. As for what Trump can do, it's hard to tell what he won't do but I don't think he'll start his own party as he would rather not want to get in bigger trouble than he already is in. I think the most likely GOP people who could get the ones who currently dislike it are those who can claim loyalty to Trump or genuinely share some similar positions.

But man I am going to kind of miss this hero-worship attitude cause man this shit is pathetic

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True this was more on the right but what AOC and such did was a result of Bernie's popularity having an impact despite the man being a grifter who has conned dumb college kids who believe he'll save them.


That's fair enough, Trump was just a more in your face scale of being someone with no political experience elected to the most powerful position in America. As for what Trump can do, it's hard to tell what he won't do but I don't think he'll start his own party as he would rather not want to get in bigger trouble than he already is in. I think the most likely GOP people who could get the ones who currently dislike it are those who can claim loyalty to Trump or genuinely share some similar positions.

But man I am going to kind of miss this hero-worship attitude cause man this shit is pathetic

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If Trump is not in prison by the time the next election season comes or some ruling is passed specifically barring him from running again, he will try and run again. He's tasted the ultimate narcissistic high and flew on it for nearly four years, and he'll be chasing it for the rest of his life.
 
Sorry for getting carried away by my politisperging but damn they really think they are badasses now

Stop saying 2022 and 2024. Stop it.

Normally I just lurk. I think this is the second time I have actually logged in but I have watched TheDonald ever since it was formed on reddit. I just think something needs to be said.
I'm no doomer. I've kept hope this entire time, never once doubted POTUS. Watching the message from President Trump tonight certainly made me feel like I just got dumped. And I disagree with just about everything he said for once. There was nothing more patriotic than what I saw in the capitol.
But I still have hope. Not that he's going to do anything, but that patriots across the country will. But it isn't for 2022 or 2024. There is no hope there. Stop laying down and taking it like a bitch. This is why we lost. Because every time we get fucked, people say "We'll get them next time".
No, we won't. Because they don't play fair. Do you really think 2022 or 2024 will matter in the slightest? We will NEVER have another fair election again. With their new power, they will ensure that they have control over every election going forward and the only people to win are the ones THEY CHOOSE. Its now or never. If you want your country back this is the last chance we have.
If this isn't turned around, we will never be free again. They'll open the borders, they'll take the guns, they'll put our children on hormone blockers and the rest they'll touch inappropriately (or try). They'll put people in jail for speech, they'll slowly kill off the ones that become a "problem" for them. You've seen this. You know how the democrats work. They are sick and they are perverts. They are evil people that have a warped view of the world. Every city they touch burns. We are in for hell on earth. My generation is going to suffer if the world goes in this direction.
My point here is simply this. You can't rely on democracy when one side cheats and the other side thinks they are too good to cheat. We aren't going to win any election ever again because they will control the votes. I'm not a doomer, that's just the reality.
This is our last stand. Start coming up with real solutions. What can we legally do, if anything? But stop telling people we can win another election. Its moronic.
Side note: I feel pretty badass having my second post ever get stickied tonight. Wow, thanks! Just felt it needed to be made clear

But this comment chain is just...no comment

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Good lawd TDW is coming off the rails tonight. Blatant racist comments, people openly calling for actual murder. I have similar feelings as the OP and I don't know what the next step is. What I do know is succession to some racist land and murder of the opposition is not it. My preferential outcome is a land that welcomes law abiding, freedom loving individuals of any race, gender, creed and nationality. I feel capital punishment is absolutely necessary in certain circumstances, graft and corruption of public office being one of them, but only after they are judged by an unbiased jury of peers. Keep the racist and murder bullshit talk to yourself.

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Whats so terrible about racism. In animals its called territorialism and is ESSENTIAL to survival. Thats how the world works. Does it hurt your feelings or something?

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I’ll be the first to admit I don’t give a fuck about the plight of black people and other minorities simply because I’m not one. Unlike the liberals though, I don’t try to claim otherwise in order to siphon their votes.
 
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