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Was this a terrorist incident?

  • Yes

    Votes: 514 24.4%
  • No

    Votes: 543 25.8%
  • There were bad people(terrorists) involved, but that shouldn't reflect on everybody else

    Votes: 260 12.4%
  • It was the state who created terror

    Votes: 788 37.4%

  • Total voters
    2,105
Yeah, but they aren't orange.
Twitter censored the ayatollah though.
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Any history nerds here?

Hopefully this doesn't sound stupid and makes sense but what are some points in time where the merchant class held alot more power then the government authority and how did the country fare under it?
That happened with the East India Company but the British Empire took control of the EIC's acquisitions (aka India) and administrated it under direct British rule.
 
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The Roman Republic would be the obvious example. I think you know how that turned out.
The late Res Publica, specifically Milo and Clodius, comes to mind; a time where the men in power preached against mobs and gangs while the men in power directed mobs and gangs brazenly, defended in their actions either by the Populares or the Optimates.
Also of importance is that the republic had a death warrant after the reforms of Marius -- soldiers no longer owed themselves to Rome, but rather their commander, who gave them wages and promises of future rewards for continued loyalty. If they followed him, they got land and grain, he would fight for them in the senate, call in favors for them.
And if they lost? Their enemies in Rome would grant no such things. Worst case scenario they got killed.

See any comparison with Antifa, Proud Boys, BLM, etc? Maybe even Weimar Republic Germany where gangs brazenly roamed supreme? Most important to note is that the populace of Rome fucking hated the gangs destroying and looting the city... This partially led to the rise of Caesar, not insomuch his Imperium as his popularity. Though later he was legitimized in his Imperium via popularity and stability.

That these Epic-Based-QBoomers could do this, and be welcomed by some police, tell you all you need to know about where we're going.
That BLM could do what they did and face as little repercussions as they did tells you we have a conflict with power belonging to both gangs.
That a historically unpopular president is coming into office should tell you how well we can handle this.


I hate fortune tellers but our future does not look good... If the powers that be keep their selfish push to gain more and more they'll soon have to realize they were betting, and may come up with a bad hand.
 
Be very afraid, boys.

We're in the endgame now.
I'm not even trying to worry about shit, I just wanna stay out of politics altogether. Keep that shit off my mind, even when it comes to laughing about how dumb it all is. I just wanna be left alone and ride out the rest of my time without it. Absolutely nothing about politics matters imo.
 
Better cut me a fucking check.
> accepting a check from Donald Trump
You might want to demand cash.

Here we go, we just might get two isolated bubbles of information!
Who doesn't already have to sift through dozens of information sources in attempt to divine what might kind of halfway resemble reality?
 
>accidentally say "tranny" within earshot of neighbour's Google Home wiretap
>whole street gets droned by Raytheon
>livestreamed on YouTube to ensure others are aware of the consequences of doubleplusbad wrongspeak


Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose.
>You actually where talking about training for a sports match and the wiretapper simply misheard
>They know, but hey have an "extremist arrest" quota to fulfill and theyre behind this month

Sorry buddy! should had watched your pronunciation
 

A Coup? A Revolution? A Prelude to a Civil War?​

by Keith PrestonCulture Wars/Current Controversies • Tags: Trump January 6 coup
My tentative inclination is to think the significance of January 6 is being overestimated by many folks. It seems that what really happened is that an incumbent President and his supporters were simply using a parliamentary maneuver, however cynically, to overturn the results of an election which they may or may not have seriously believed was stolen. Trump and the fringiest Republicans probably really believed this. Guys like Cruz and Hawley, probably not. While such maneuvers are unusual in US politics, they’re not by themselves illegal.
As for the invasion of Capitol Hill, what seems to have happened is a riot where protestors overpowered the police, who were only doing their jobs half-heartedly (which often happens in civil unrest, as incidents ranging from LA 1992 to Charlottesville 2017 indicate), and subsequently engaged in petty theft, vandalism, and ridiculous photo-ops.

I saw comparable violence at rock concerts and sports events in the 70s and 80s. The band is two hours late, the fans get pissed, the folding metal chairs start flying, fans climb onto the stage. Or two teams get into a fight, the ref calls the game, and the fans invade the field. Yes, someone was killed, but that’s what happens when a mob of people rushes the cops.
Can the use of a dubious parliamentary tactic by politicians combined with a riot by their supporters really be considered a coup attempt? Coups typically involve an in-house maneuver by high ranking or relatively high ranking government, intelligence, or military officials to depose the existing head of state and his immediate circle. By this standard, efforts by Pence, the Cabinet, or Congressional leaders (and those who pull the strings of these) to invoke the 25th amendment against Trump would come closer to meeting the definition of an actual coup. Although invoking the 25th wouldn’t really be a coup either, as it is a perfectly constitutional though rare maneuver.
Coups can take place when a head of state seizes extra-constitutional power for the purpose of shutting down the opposition. The strongest argument for a “Trump as coup instigator” position would be Trump’s incendiary rhetoric and inciting of the protestors to mob action. Such claims were used by the Nixon administration to prosecute the Chicago 8 in 1969 (notably, the Chicago 8 convictions were all vacated on appeal, although on the basis of judicial and prosecutorial misconduct, not “innocence” per se). Such a “shouting fire in a crowded theater” charge would probably be dubious from a First Amendment legal perspective. And there is no immediately apparent evidence that Trump was seriously trying to dissolve Congress, the courts, opposition parties, the opposition press, and other constitutional entities in order to seize absolute or near-absolute power, or otherwise create an extra-constitutional government. The only President in US history that came close to achieving such was Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War. In fact, Trump was rewarded for his “coup” attempt by being locked out of his social media accounts. Not exactly comparable to Hitler or Allende in their final moments.
Perhaps it could be argued that what happened was not a coup attempt but an attempted putsch. I’m not sure precisely where exactly the line would be drawn between a putsch and an ordinary riot, if there is such a line. A putsch is ordinarily defined as an attempt to violently overthrow the government. Maybe that was the intention of at least some of the rioters, but it seems for a riot to escalate into a putsch, the would-be insurrectionists would have to have at least some possibility of success, which was clearly not the case on January 6. A far worse incident occurred on March 1, 1954, when Puerto Rican nationalists opened fire on Congress, killing one Congressman and wounding four others. But this incident is considered to have been an ordinary act of terrorism, not a putsch. At no point on January 6 was the actual security of the state threatened, not by the wildest stretch of the imagination.
If January 6 was neither a serious coup attempt nor an attempted revolution, perhaps it could be considered a prelude to a civil war, which is more plausible because, if for no other reason, no one knows the future. But the riot at the capitol on January 6 was no more extreme than many of the riots that have occurred over the past six months, and not as extreme as some. It may seem more dramatic only because Congress rather than a Gamestop store or a local police precinct was the target. Civil disturbances related to electoral disputes are not abnormal by world standards. Violence is typically associated with about 20% of elections worldwide. January 6 seems to have been just another incident in the “Third Worldization” (normalization) of US society as the roughly three-quarters of a century that the US has been an unusually genteel, middle-class society passes.

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Lmao they definitely did trash schools and libraries. I watched them do it in Minneapolis on livestream
Don't forget that they trashed David Dorn's friend's pawn shop after murdering David Dorn. They burned down Hugo's book store, owned by one guy who is/was part of the Minneapolis community. Nobody should be making excuses for the BLM thugs.
I wonder if he knows he's next?
Probably, but might as well do this while he can.
You mean the same law schools who will reject applications solely because a student is white? And who over the last decade have gone above and beyond to cater to woke nonsense?
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She knows they're antiwhite, but these types will keep complaining the more universities kowtow.
HOLY SHIT WHY IS NANCY PELOSI SHITTING HERSELF SO HARD
Calm your ass down bitch, he's going to be out in 12 days.
His supporters made her run away shidding and farding. She's embarrassed.
 
Dude it's not just the militia types, it's the preppers, these people have turned their houses into bunker fortresses.
The majority of the big militias went bye-bye after the Congressional inquiries and a decade of mocking from CNN and the like. Recruitment stalled, then failed, until the militias are basically 12 guys, 10 of which are undercover feds from different agencies, one guy who thinks it's a camping club, and some dude who uses it as a place to score meth.

Preppers got the same treatment after Y2K (and to some extent, during the 1990's after the Cold War ended) and were mocked even leading up to the Wu-Flu, and are back to being mocked for keeping their supplies up.

Vet groups are largely polarized and don't really get together any more that often. The VFW and AFL are mainly drinking clubs and bingo halls.

The majority of the "Molon Labe" guys are fucking Lolcows who spill their shit all over social media, the snake eaters do the same.

Sure, some people's houses are fucking fortresses, but they won't dick with those guys like they're raiding a crack house, they'll wait for them to go to the mail or go on a store run and pick them up in the parking lot or they'll be a "regretable incident" on the highway.

We'll probably see a lot of Ruby Ridge shit happen and get swept under the rug.

The watch-lists will be filled to bursting with anyone who ever so much as touched and American flag (A lot of vets and former cops are on watch-lists anyway) and the Bug Man will be the only "proper" American within ten years.
 
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