Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

You'd almost think that they WANT Biden to be a dictator.
They do. Have you read the fiction this set produces? Not just Tom Clancy, but all the middle-of-the-pack milifics, sci-fi milifics, and alt-history milifics. One of the most popular plots is the "revolutionary fantasy". In this story, the United States government (or analogue) is either overthrown or subverted, either by fundamentalist Muslims (or analogue), radical Leftists (or analogue), or China/Russia/North Korea/The United Nations (or analogues). These powers instantly seize control of massive sections of the country and institute a dystopian system born from the fever dreams of A&N's dedicated posters, leaving only a small group of "true patriots" to fight back against the government, often adopting the tactics of terrorist groups to do so, up to and including terror bombings and the like. Any civilian deaths are portrayed as either a tragic sacrifice in the name of a greater good (in more sane and nuanced works), or a heroic involuntary sacrifice for the cause by the victims worth celebrating (in the most unhinged). While there are plenty of novels where captured enemies are treated well to prove the moral high-ground of the revolutionaries, there are just as many where said revolutionaries have a take-no-prisoners policy or enact clear political revenge fantasies of the author on their captives. Should the revolutionaries seize control of part or all of America again, they will often install a militaristic stratocracy instead of a "pure" democracy, and usually will castigate leftist ideologies the author dislikes, if not enact prior political revenge fantasies en masse. Generally, they endorse the "hard times, strong men, good times, weak men" cyclical theory of history and flirt with many of the hard-right's favorite criticisms of democracy.

These people consume these sorts of novels when they deign to read, often, and thus have the revolutionary fantasy (which you can see in film, as well: Red Dawn is an archetypal example of this, although softened) firmly entrenched in their minds. This narrative, which frames them as underdogs with the moral right to victory, but more importantly the moral right to use whatever force they desire to punish those responsible for "destroying" the country, runs through the entirety of the Stop the Steal conspiracy theory.

TL;DR these people do want Biden to be a dictator because it will validate themselves as the "good guys" and give moral sanction to their own violence and fantasies of retribution.
 
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They do. Have you read the fiction this set produces? Not just Tom Clancy, but all the middle-of-the-pack milifics, sci-fi milifics, and alt-history milifics. One of the most popular plots is the "revolutionary fantasy". In this story, the United States government (or analogue) is either overthrown or subverted, either by fundamentalist Muslims (or analogue), radical Leftists (or analogue), or China/Russia/North Korea/The United Nations (or analogues). These powers instantly seize control of massive sections of the country and institute a dystopian system born from the fever dreams of A&N's dedicated posters, leaving only a small group of "true patriots" to fight back against the government, often adopting the tactics of terrorist groups to do so, up to and including terror bombings and the like. Any civilian deaths are portrayed as either a tragic sacrifice in the name of a greater good (in more sane and nuanced works), or a heroic involuntary sacrifice for the cause by the victims worth celebrating (in the most unhinged). While there are plenty of novels where captured enemies are treated well to prove the moral high-ground of the revolutionaries, there are just as many where said revolutionaries have a take-no-prisoners policy or enact clear political revenge fantasies of the author on their captives. Should the revolutionaries seize control of part or all of America again, they will often install a militaristic stratocracy instead of a "pure" democracy, and usually will castigate leftist ideologies the author dislikes, if not enact prior political revenge fantasies en masse. Generally, they endorse the "hard times, strong men, good times, weak men" cyclical theory of history and flirt with many of the hard-right's favorite criticisms of democracy.

These people consume these sorts of novels when they deign to read, often, and thus have the revolutionary fantasy (which you can see in film, as well: Red Dawn is an archetypal example of this, although softened) firmly entrenched in their minds. This narrative, which frames them as underdogs with the moral right to victory, but more importantly the moral right to use whatever force they desire to punish those responsible for "destroying" the country, runs through the entirety of the Stop the Steal conspiracy theory.

TL;DR these people do want Biden to be a dictator because it will validate themselves as the "good guys" and give moral sanction to their own violence and fantasies of retribution.


I think part of it is regret they couldnt be there for the big events like the War or independance, the wild west or WW2. It's romaniticism taken to its extreme.
 
The funny thing about Red Dawn the 84 version is that its actually reasonably nuanced. The good guys do stuff they regret the bad guys are not one note villains. Probably the funniest thing is that the entire war is rationalised as having been inevitable. Most Red Dawn style stories including the remake dump any nuance.Sort of like how Clancy understood the Cold war but once it ended Clancy got increasingly outlandish.To the point it no longer made any sense.
 
I think the greatest sin that the Trump zeitgeist will have committed will be to have given complete pass for a lot of corporate shady shit. Glen Greenwald has been going ham about the business power that Amazon, Google, and Apple have to un-person a person, and the ability of banks to choose who and what is allowed to exist in society is an obviously fucking heinous thing (as dear leader knows well). It cannot escape attention that, so close to bills ostensibly made to regulate them, big tech and the banks have taken rather dramatic and heinous steps to endear themselves to the incoming administration.

And, given who the Trumpers are, there's not many people that are going to want to push up against that shit. "I know that they're all posting about how they want to have civil war, cause untold deaths and suffering, and seem to gleefully believe that they'll get to shoot fellow citizens that they don't like, but we need to look past that to see that in principle the ability of business and capital to run the country should not be allowed when we have both political and legal processes to deal with these people already. We also shouldn't overlook the fact that sometimes monopolies do things we might actually like, but that's not enough reason to let them skirt all consequence."

Of course, you've now got "progressives" unironically taking the old libertarian "a business can do whatever it wants" talking point, which none of them spouted during the whole cake debacle. Turns out that scoring political dunks on people you don't like is way more important than standing up for what you believe in or having a coherent ideology.
I love that to these retards getting deplatformed from the internet for being violent psychos means we're in 1984.
In fairness, if it's a day ending in y, we're in 1984. And if it's a year ending in an integer, they still haven't read 1984.
 
They do. Have you read the fiction this set produces? Not just Tom Clancy, but all the middle-of-the-pack milifics, sci-fi milifics, and alt-history milifics. One of the most popular plots is the "revolutionary fantasy". In this story, the United States government (or analogue) is either overthrown or subverted, either by fundamentalist Muslims (or analogue), radical Leftists (or analogue), or China/Russia/North Korea/The United Nations (or analogues). These powers instantly seize control of massive sections of the country and institute a dystopian system born from the fever dreams of A&N's dedicated posters, leaving only a small group of "true patriots" to fight back against the government, often adopting the tactics of terrorist groups to do so, up to and including terror bombings and the like. Any civilian deaths are portrayed as either a tragic sacrifice in the name of a greater good (in more sane and nuanced works), or a heroic involuntary sacrifice for the cause by the victims worth celebrating (in the most unhinged). While there are plenty of novels where captured enemies are treated well to prove the moral high-ground of the revolutionaries, there are just as many where said revolutionaries have a take-no-prisoners policy or enact clear political revenge fantasies of the author on their captives. Should the revolutionaries seize control of part or all of America again, they will often install a militaristic stratocracy instead of a "pure" democracy, and usually will castigate leftist ideologies the author dislikes, if not enact prior political revenge fantasies en masse. Generally, they endorse the "hard times, strong men, good times, weak men" cyclical theory of history and flirt with many of the hard-right's favorite criticisms of democracy.

These people consume these sorts of novels when they deign to read, often, and thus have the revolutionary fantasy (which you can see in film, as well: Red Dawn is an archetypal example of this, although softened) firmly entrenched in their minds. This narrative, which frames them as underdogs with the moral right to victory, but more importantly the moral right to use whatever force they desire to punish those responsible for "destroying" the country, runs through the entirety of the Stop the Steal conspiracy theory.

TL;DR these people do want Biden to be a dictator because it will validate themselves as the "good guys" and give moral sanction to their own violence and fantasies of retribution.
Specifically, these people seem to want their own Turner Diaries. Entirely too many of them are people who could become the next Timothy McVeigh.

(I also wouldn't refer to these people as "revolutionaries." They are, at heart, counter-revolutionaries who want to destroy everything the Revolution gave us.)
 
No truer words have been posted. I hate how a site meant to be used to laugh at, discuss, and eternally document any weirdo regardless of race, creed, nationality, religion, sexuality or whatever freely got crammed in the same category as morons who want to sperg about how evil lefties are while typing up lengthy fantasies about Minecraft IRL.
Making fun of trannies and furfags doesn't mean that the site should be KiA 2.0


There legitimately used to be something like that years back. Around 2016/2017 you had to watch the full length video of Chris in a bra fucking his PS3 and then type out his full name to even join the site.
That should return, but even more hardcore. Like you need to draw an outline of Chris's bent duck with only a mouse and have moderators verify said drawing's accuracy in order to join the website. The slowness of that very process will be enough to ensure that only the creme of the crop join the site, only the most dedicated of freaks can laugh at other freaks.

>scream at the sky
those people really do love that little video clip, don't they
shit's like a high to them, they keep desperately wanting to claw their way back on top and be le ebin "fuck your feelings" shitposters even though that moment's passed them since at least November.

Cutting all ties with Trump is basically just covering ass and futureproofing one's career. Hawley and Cruz seem to want to sink with the ship, and all power to them.
I seriously do hope Trump is still a factor in 2022 and 2024, even in jail. I hope his cult still has a strong enough pull on the Republican party and splits their vote for years to come, kinda like how the Bernie bros sapped away some votes from the Democratic party with their write-ins IIRC.
I joined up relatively recently but I’ve been reading about Chris since, jesus, 2008 I think? I’m sorry I missed the test portion of this site.
I think the greatest sin that the Trump zeitgeist will have committed will be to have given complete pass for a lot of corporate shady shit. Glen Greenwald has been going ham about the business power that Amazon, Google, and Apple have to un-person a person, and the ability of banks to choose who and what is allowed to exist in society is an obviously fucking heinous thing (as dear leader knows well). It cannot escape attention that, so close to bills ostensibly made to regulate them, big tech and the banks have taken rather dramatic and heinous steps to endear themselves to the incoming administration.

And, given who the Trumpers are, there's not many people that are going to want to push up against that shit. "I know that they're all posting about how they want to have civil war, cause untold deaths and suffering, and seem to gleefully believe that they'll get to shoot fellow citizens that they don't like, but we need to look past that to see that in principle the ability of business and capital to run the country should not be allowed when we have both political and legal processes to deal with these people already. We also shouldn't overlook the fact that sometimes monopolies do things we might actually like, but that's not enough reason to let them skirt all consequence."

Of course, you've now got "progressives" unironically taking the old libertarian "a business can do whatever it wants" talking point, which none of them spouted during the whole cake debacle. Turns out that scoring political dunks on people you don't like is way more important than standing up for what you believe in or having a coherent ideology.

In fairness, if it's a day ending in y, we're in 1984. And if it's a year ending in an integer, they still haven't read 1984.
It’s not that I agree businesses should run unfettered and have insane amounts of power, it’s that they do, and largely because of conservative lawmaking. Yeah, I’d much rather overturn citizens United and clamp down on lobbying and break up monopolies, but conservatives like that shit and Dems don’t mind it either. Just because a bunch of liberals are pointing out the truth doesn’t mean they agree with it. It’s just the truth!
 
It’s not that I agree businesses should run unfettered and have insane amounts of power, it’s that they do, and largely because of conservative lawmaking. Yeah, I’d much rather overturn citizens United and clamp down on lobbying and break up monopolies, but conservatives like that shit and Dems don’t mind it either. Just because a bunch of liberals are pointing out the truth doesn’t mean they agree with it. It’s just the truth!
China's working on an alternative banking system. They're realistically the only ones with the power to do so.

Which is likely going to lead to a hilarious future where you have to recite Xi Jinping Thought to register on your little alt-right social media platform.
 
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China's working on an alternative banking system. They're realistically the only ones with the power to do so.
Lmao who cares? Nobody is going to trust chinks with any kind of currency unless they're morons, and if they do, they deserve what you get any time you deal with chinks, which is ripped off.
 
Specifically, these people seem to want their own Turner Diaries. Entirely too many of them are people who could become the next Timothy McVeigh.

(I also wouldn't refer to these people as "revolutionaries." They are, at heart, counter-revolutionaries who want to destroy everything the Revolution gave us.)
I'm not interested in injecting my own political opinions into my analysis, as that would interfere with accuracy. I'm just trying to describe how these people see themselves and the stories they tell without bias or passion.
 
"Deep State" is another QBoomer phrase I wish would go away. People who don't want to hear your fan fic about politicians aren't part of some illuminati-esque cabal trying to do...whatever they're trying to do.
All this shit about Biden being a dictator and camps for conservatives is sheer projection. It's literally what they wish Trump could have done.
All they have to do to alleviate their fears is think about the logistical nightmare of setting up "death camps" and our federal government, nevermind the DNC portion of it, trying to get that done within, oh, 50 years.
 
"Deep State" is another QBoomer phrase I wish would go away. People who don't want to hear your fan fic about politicians aren't part of some illuminati-esque cabal trying to do...whatever they're trying to do.

All they have to do to alleviate their fears is think about the logistical nightmare of setting up "death camps" and our federal government, nevermind the DNC portion of it, trying to get that done within, oh, 50 years.
Deep state originated in Turkey and is a generic term for the various power broker groups that often undermined normal constitutional process.Basically the military officers although not exclusively.It was 'borrowed' in the US because it sounds kind of cool.Its a lot more ominous than saying 'elite' or whatever.Former NSA and CIA spooks were genuinely surprised to hear the tem used in the US.
 
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Nothing says Jesus like being a career conman who cheats on his wife by paying a porn star for sex
Trumpers trully live in their own reality. I had a moment with my mother recently where she said she could never respect Arnold Schwarzenegger, because he cheated on his wife. It was in response to his statement on the insurrection. She legit does not believe Trump ever was unfaithful to his wives.
 
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