March for Trump (1/6) - (1/5-1/6), 18 NAKED PROUD BOYS IN THE SHOWER AT RAM RANCH

Was this a terrorist incident?

  • Yes

    Votes: 514 24.4%
  • No

    Votes: 543 25.8%
  • There were bad people(terrorists) involved, but that shouldn't reflect on everybody else

    Votes: 260 12.4%
  • It was the state who created terror

    Votes: 788 37.4%

  • Total voters
    2,105
What do you think made us more of a national disgrace:

Abunch of people breaking intoa government building

OR

Citizens torching more cities than Sherman punishing the Confederacy?

FYI, foreign countries think it's a disgrace that we still let our citizens be armed and more importantly, I don't give a fuck.
A bunch of people breaking into the capitol of the country with barely any resistance is the bigger disgrace, yes.

How did the BLM riots damage our soft power? How does the snideness about our guns damage our soft power? Not at all.
How did this? Oh, a fuckton. Our sharp power's taken a hit, too. Hard power's still fine, we can still bomb people we don't like.

The rioting and destruction that came out of that can be shit and in need of even more prosecution than has already gone underneath it, and you retards can also have fucked yourselves raw in the ass and left the rest of us to pay the bill with a severe crackdown.
Plenty of countries will let you get off with property destruction and rioting in cities without putting forth the proper response, but you are a retard if you think they'll let you start smashing the capitol and go gloves-off. BLM would get just as fucked if they had bumrushed into the capitol and twerked on some desks.
 
Note the continuing argument that it is somehow different because it is the Capitol continues to be made, despite it being completely destroyed the moment one realizes these people will probably not get pardons, board positions, and professorships, like certain other individuals who attacked or wanted to attack the Capitol or Congresscritters with far more lethal means.
 
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Good to see Congress is back to being a clown show. Was worried that they'd been scared straight.
 
... that's literally the current argument against Trump right now. Or did you forget that one? He didn't get a secret message, he listen and read what Bernie said. Stop obfuscating the point.

What the hell is this comparison. He didn't say he did it because Bernie told him to. He didn't say anything. He simply was a Bernie supporter, among other things, and he posted a political cartoon of his target Scalise giving a speech to the KKK... which was something that did happen (but doesn't mean he shared those views).

Trump here:
- didn't have the DC National Guard out and ready to meet the protesters and keep things from getting out of control... yet he did have the full National Guard entirely mobilized back in June for BLM's protests in DC

- met with the protesters and incited the riot, telling them, "Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back", urging them to fight without being held back by wanting to be "nice" and "respectful" of "bad people"

- and told them, "we’re going to have to fight much harder"

- and told them, "you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength"

- and told them, "When you catch somebody in a fraud, you are allowed to go by very different rules"

-
and told them, "We will not take it anymore, and that is what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal", encouraging them to stop the count and stop the certification

- and told them, "“We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore."

- and told them, "we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. We are going to the Capitol"

- and told them, "we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country."

- we've had a Republican senator report to conservative media that senior white house officials observed Trump being delighted watching his supporters riot and clash with police at the Capitol and confused why aides weren't as excited

- Trump was an impediment to calling in the National Guard, with reports of a scramble of officials not knowing if they even had the authority to call them without the President, eventually coming - far too late- through unusual channels, and through Pence. Maryland and Virginia had to send in their National Guard and state troopers to help contain it because of the lack of leadership and control over the situation

- Throughout the riot, Trump was urged to condemn the violence and he didn't

- Trump told the rioters who had attacked police, chanted anti-police slogans, invaded the Capitol, forced senators and congressmembers to evacuate, after pipe bombs had been found, and people had been shot and seriously injured: "we love you, you're very special".

- Again refusing to disavow and condemn, Trump tweeted: "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!” Characterizing the rioters as patriotic victims, vindicating them, and trying to paint the insurrection as if it were a good day for the USA

And of course, it was his persistent fraudulent claims of a stolen election that also incited this mob to begin with. All his fake news and conspiracy theories misleading people and demonizing anyone who doesn't support him.

You make an absolutely ludicrous comparison. Regardless of whether you agree he is legally responsible for inciting a riot, it's a far cry from Bernie Sanders' involvement in Scalise's shooting, which was zero. Zero involvement. There exists no comparison. And right here in this thread, we have the police officer who shot the terrorist in 2017, defending Scalise's life, being painted as a murderer and traitor for allegedly shooting Babbitt (the identification grounds are shaky). And you want to talk double standards?
 
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Notice how they continue to try to pretend to be fair knowing that it would never happen and that one side would be the only one punished, as a method of virtue signaling.

They do this knowing that true fairness would be to advocate that neither side would be punished in such a situation, until both are.
Notice the lack of balls to directly tag or quote the people he's answering too.
Or is this you doing an Attenborough impression?

Anyway, top notch mature approach to politics "If they aren't bleating my buzzwords, they are the enemy". Not a particularly rare attitude in this thread, I must add.
 
I maybe a little out of it, but I don't think a couple hundred people can overthrow a government especially since they were protesting for hours before. Kinda takes away the element of surprise.
A hundred Boomers could not, but a well trained cell of people with a specific ideological goal and objectives?

There is a reason vanguardist movements became very common in the early 20th century, and there is also a reason these politicians just summoned 15k troops to garrison DC; Because what is going through their is head is, "what if someone tries the same thing the boomers did but were actually competent and had objectives? If the boomers could just walk in what stops them from doing the same?".

tl;dr: Yes, a well trained group could do that, which is one of the reasons they are cracking down so hard.
 
A bunch of people breaking into the capitol of the country with barely any resistance is the bigger disgrace, yes.

How did the BLM riots damage our soft power? How does the snideness about our guns damage our soft power? Not at all.
How did this? Oh, a fuckton. Our sharp power's taken a hit, too. Hard power's still fine, we can still bomb people we don't like.

The rioting and destruction that came out of that can be shit and in need of even more prosecution than has already gone underneath it, and you retards can also have fucked yourselves raw in the ass and left the rest of us to pay the bill with a severe crackdown.
Plenty of countries will let you get off with property destruction and rioting in cities without putting forth the proper response, but you are a retard if you think they'll let you start smashing the capitol and go gloves-off. BLM would get just as fucked if they had bumrushed into the capitol and twerked on some desks.
The BLM riots were far worse than the Capitol riots because the BLM riots ruined the lives of innocent working-class families. The oligarchs in Capitol Hill deserve to be frightened. They treat Americans like scum.
 
What the hell is this comparison. He didn't say he did it because Bernie told him to. He didn't say anything. He simply was a Bernie supporter, among other things, and he posted a political cartoon of his target Scalise giving a speech to the KKK... which was something that did happen (but doesn't mean he shared those views).

Trump here:
- didn't have the DC National Guard out and ready to meet the protesters and keep things from getting out of control... yet he did have the full National Guard entirely mobilized back in June for BLM's protests in DC

- met with the protesters and incited the riot, telling them, "Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back", urging them to fight without being held back by wanting to be "nice" and "respectful" of "bad people"

- and told them, "we’re going to have to fight much harder"

- and told them, "you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength"

- and told them, "When you catch somebody in a fraud, you are allowed to go by very different rules"

-
and told them, "We will not take it anymore, and that is what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal", encouraging them to stop the count and stop the certification

- and told them, "“We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore."

- and told them, "we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. We are going to the Capitol"

- and told them, "we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country."

- we've had a Republican senator report to conservative media that senior white house officials observed Trump being delighted watching his supporters riot and clash with police at the Capitol and confused why aides weren't as excited

- Trump was an impediment to calling in the National Guard, with reports of a scramble of officials not knowing if they even had the authority to call them without the President, eventually coming - far too late- through unusual channels, and through Pence. Maryland and Virginia had to send in their National Guard and state troopers to help contain it because of the lack of leadership and control over the situation

- Throughout the riot, Trump was urged to condemn the violence and he didn't

- Trump told the rioters who had attacked police, chanted anti-police slogans, invaded the Capitol, forced senators and congressmembers to evacuate, after pipe bombs had been found, and people had been shot and seriously injured: "we love you, you're very special".

- Again refusing to disavow and condemn, Trump tweeted: "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!” Characterizing the rioters as patriotic victims, vindicating them, and trying to paint the insurrection as if it were a good day for the USA

And of course, it was his persistent fraudulent claims of a stolen election that also incited this mob to begin with. All his fake news and conspiracy theories misleading people and demonizing anyone who doesn't support him.

You make an absolutely ludicrous comparison. And right here in this thread, we have the police officer who shot the terrorist in 2017, defending Scalise's life, being painted as a murderer and traitor for allegedly shooting Babbitt (the identification grounds are shaky). And you want to talk double standards?
Damn. :semperfi:
Also: Protesters chanting to hang the vice president while they force their way into the Capitol where he currently is holed up is peak peaceful protest.

From believing that capitulating to the Chinese is a good idea to insisting that Q is a benevolent prognosticator, I'm convinced the country would be a hell of a lot better off if we threw half the population into an insane asylum.
I think this applies to most western nations at this point. Maybe it would be fair taking turns in the asylums for an equal time share.

A hundred Boomers could not, but a well trained cell of people with a specific ideological goal and objectives?

There is a reason vanguardist movements became very common in the early 20th century, and there is also a reason these politicians just summoned 15k troops to garrison DC; Because what is going through their is head is, "what if someone tries the same thing the boomers did but were actually competent and had objectives? If the boomers could just walk in what stops them from doing the same?".

tl;dr: Yes, a well trained group could do that, which is one of the reasons they are cracking down so hard.
Frankly, if there had been like a dozen or so guys with guns in the crowd a week ago, intending to shoot up some politicians, shit would have gone downhill pretty swiftly. Thank fuck it genuinely was just a bunch of boomers without a goal. Anything else would have ended in desaster.
 
What is it with people carrying water for the Democrats and begging for attention pings via quotes and stickers? It keeps happening.
Blacklash from Trump/ Want things to return to normal already and are getting pissed at the Qoomerwaffen division for interrupting that.

Oh, and dopamine hits from people constantly taking the bait and getting incredibly mad at their hottakes; Like people who could not stop a-logging HHH for example.
 
Notice the lack of balls to directly tag or quote the people he's answering too.
Or is this you doing an Attenborough impression?

Anyway, top notch mature approach to politics "If they aren't bleating my buzzwords, they are the enemy". Not a particularly rare attitude in this thread, I must add.
He will sometimes tag people he tries to rag on, which either suggests an autistic list of "I will never interact with this person ever never," or that he has people on ignore, sees their posts when they're quoted, and cannot directly quote or interact with them UNTIL someone quotes the post.
He was fairly active in the politisperg hugbox, so who knows - maybe some gay furry on discord passes along that someone made fun of him.
He's a little sensitive, hence the box.
The BLM riots were far worse than the Capitol riots because the BLM riots ruined the lives of innocent working-class families. The oligarchs in Capitol Hill deserve to be frightened. They treat Americans like scum.
Far worse to you, maybe. How much capitol do you control? How much do you influence US power? Look, if the boomerwaffen had stormed the state capitols of governors that were refusing to deploy the national guard, or had harangued police commissioners that were clearly giving stand-down orders, that'd be one thing. Instead you tried to disrupt an election you failed to prove fraudulent despite many, many attempts... for a guy who threw you immediately to the wolves to save his own skin. The idiots that charged on in deserve what they're getting, even if Tryone didn't get what he deserved (assuming we ignore all those arrests anyways).
 
Blacklash from Trump/ Want things to return to normal already and are getting pissed at the Qoomerwaffen division for interrupting that.

Oh, and dopamine hits from people constantly taking the bait and getting incredibly mad at their hottakes; Like people who could not stop a-logging HHH for example.
It's just kind of sad. This has been going on for, what, a year now, exposed by the AnH State of the Board thread? Nothing has changed.
 
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What the hell is this comparison. He didn't say he did it because Bernie told him to. He didn't say anything. He simply was a Bernie supporter, among other things, and he posted a political cartoon of his target Scalise giving a speech to the KKK... which was something that did happen (but doesn't mean he shared those views).

Trump here:
- didn't have the DC National Guard out and ready to meet the protesters and keep things from getting out of control... yet he did have the full National Guard entirely mobilized back in June for BLM's protests in DC

- met with the protesters and incited the riot, telling them, "Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back", urging them to fight without being held back by wanting to be "nice" and "respectful" of "bad people"

- and told them, "we’re going to have to fight much harder"

- and told them, "you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength"

- and told them, "When you catch somebody in a fraud, you are allowed to go by very different rules"

-
and told them, "We will not take it anymore, and that is what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal", encouraging them to stop the count and stop the certification

- and told them, "“We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore."

- and told them, "we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. We are going to the Capitol"

- and told them, "we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country."

- we've had a Republican senator report to conservative media that senior white house officials observed Trump being delighted watching his supporters riot and clash with police at the Capitol and confused why aides weren't as excited

- Trump was an impediment to calling in the National Guard, with reports of a scramble of officials not knowing if they even had the authority to call them without the President, eventually coming - far too late- through unusual channels, and through Pence. Maryland and Virginia had to send in their National Guard and state troopers to help contain it because of the lack of leadership and control over the situation

- Throughout the riot, Trump was urged to condemn the violence and he didn't

- Trump told the rioters who had attacked police, chanted anti-police slogans, invaded the Capitol, forced senators and congressmembers to evacuate, after pipe bombs had been found, and people had been shot and seriously injured: "we love you, you're very special".

- Again refusing to disavow and condemn, Trump tweeted: "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!” Characterizing the rioters as patriotic victims, vindicating them, and trying to paint the insurrection as if it were a good day for the USA

And of course, it was his persistent fraudulent claims of a stolen election that also incited this mob to begin with. All his fake news and conspiracy theories misleading people and demonizing anyone who doesn't support him.

You make an absolutely ludicrous comparison. Regardless of whether you agree he is legally responsible for inciting a riot, it's a far cry from Bernie Sanders' involvement in Scalise's shooting, which was zero. Zero involvement. There exists no comparison. And right here in this thread, we have the police officer who shot the terrorist in 2017, defending Scalise's life, being painted as a murderer and traitor for allegedly shooting Babbitt (the identification grounds are shaky). And you want to talk double standards?
If it leads to the Congress having felt fear to the American people I have absolute apathy towards Trump doing all of this, in fact he didn't go far enough. Fuck legality, fuck the feds, fuck the glowies they should feel fear of us, playing nice with the people who would rather shill to foreign aid, corporations and line their own pockets don't deserve apologies or condemnation of violence towards them.

But if you wanna still to pearl clutching for the poor people of Congress who would not care if you could not provide for your family worth a damn, that's your boot to lick.
 
I really don't understand how people haven't figured out the Ignore function yet.

Shitting up the thread with in-fighting just makes it harder to keep track of the stream of information.
Hooray, someone I can go back and forth with on the utility and bitchmade-ness of using the Ignore function with again!

...maybe?

Here's hoping! Unog was really good for that.
 
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