Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

So she mostly deals with the over-hyped likely far over Dx'd "ADHD"... imagine that kids spend most days sitting around doing nothing and have too much energy so they're hard to deal with and can't concentrate... and we call it a mental disorder. They're friggen kids- make them PLAY and burn off energy. Stop TV-training them to pay attention 10 mins and no more at a time...

Yeah, not surprised this quack learns from unqualified YT "personalities" instead of her actual qualified teachers. Scary to see she holds a license admitting this.
 
So she mostly deals with the over-hyped likely far over Dx'd "ADHD"... imagine that kids spend most days sitting around doing nothing and have too much energy so they're hard to deal with and can't concentrate... and we call it a mental disorder. They're friggen kids- make them PLAY and burn off energy. Stop TV-training them to pay attention 10 mins and no more at a time...

Yeah, not surprised this quack learns from unqualified YT "personalities" instead of her actual qualified teachers. Scary to see she holds a license admitting this.
If you're going to have an opinion that's okay but you don't have to make shit up. That's not even close to how the disorder works or how its caused.

ADHD is a complex disorder that inhibits a person from prioritizing tasks, learning efficiently in areas that aren't interesting enough to maintain focus and problems maintaining the enthusiasm to see a task through. There are also many social problems linked such as aggression, mood instability and irritability. It's not just over-hyped children, it's something that stunts social and educational development. And the fascinating part is it seems to be genetically inherited and something that appears to be a genetic variation to a person's make up. Also children with ADHD would rather go play and quickly abandon tasks because they shift gears in interest so fast lmfao. So your point holds 0 water.

I agree the woman sounds like a quack but to say it's something so easily fixed is like saying autism can be avoided by not getting vaccinated - which is idiocy.

Genetically-linked psych sperg over.
 
I have some expired Team Piñata milk for you all. These posts are months old but if you’ve been wondering how Nan is, the answer is a resounding ‘unwell’.


Meet Alex Garcia(? Idk if that’s her name, but it was the name on a patreon she linked on one of her posts)

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This girl claims to be very very good friends with Nan and says that Chloe was the one who dumped Nan in order to save her spiraling YouTube career. I linked the videos where she talks about it at the bottom of the post. The clips come from a 19 minute video. I tried to just take the parts where she says revealing things because the other 15 minutes are just her saying “um” and pretending that she’s not in contact with Nan.

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She has had both a Nan factive and a Chloe factive. There’s a 40 minute video where she’s channeling Chloe, but the audio is corrupted so it’s just her sitting at a table moving her mouth. Can’t find her YouTube channel, but if she still has one and doesn’t delete it after seeing this post, you might be able to find and uncorrupted file there.

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Here she is sharing what I’m sure is also the opinion Nan and Chloe have on the Jess/Bo situation
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Video with the hot gossip:




Forgot to include the clip where she says she wishes that in Chloe’s come back video that she had explained the Nan situation and thought it was cold of her not not defend Nan
 
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I have some expired Team Piñata milk for you all. These posts are months old but if you’ve been wondering how Nan is, the answer is a resounding ‘unwell’.


Meet Alex Garcia(? Idk if that’s her name, but it was the name on a patreon she linked on one of her posts)

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This girl claims to be very very good friends with Nan and says that Chloe was the one who dumped Nan in order to save her spiraling YouTube career. I linked the videos where she talks about it at the bottom of the post. The clips come from a 19 minute video. I tried to just take the parts where she says revealing things because the other 15 minutes are just her saying “um” and pretending that she’s not in contact with Nan.

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She has had both a Nan factive and a Chloe factive. There’s a 40 minute video where she’s channeling Chloe, but the audio is corrupted so it’s just her sitting at a table moving her mouth. Can’t find her YouTube channel, but if she still has one and doesn’t delete it after seeing this post, you might be able to find and uncorrupted file there.

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Here she is sharing what I’m sure is also the opinion Nan and have on the Jess/Bo situation
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Video with the hot gossip:
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My one question about this person - how do we know their "good friend Nan" is not the Nan that "lives" in her head, & likewise with Chloe/Nin? If she has "factives" of both, then I would not put it above someone so deranged to share gossip gleaned from the "memories" of those "alters" without providing context to the audience. Do we have a way of confirming this to not be the case, or is there something I've missed that would make it unlikely?

EDIT: I just noticed she claimed to have "direct contact" with TP for months, not just Riven or Nan or whoever the fuck she says lives in her head. She also claims to have no contact with Dissociadid despite having a Nin "factive". So yeah, that does point more toward it being legit. I hope I'm not the only person who wondered.
 
My one question about this person - how do we know their "good friend Nan" is not the Nan that "lives" in her head, & likewise with Chloe/Nin? If she has "factives" of both, then I would not put it above someone so deranged to share gossip gleaned from the "memories" of those "alters" without providing context to the audience. Do we have a way of confirming this to not be the case, or is there something I've missed that would make it unlikely?
You know what? You’re absolutely right. I was looking through her follows and likes to find evidence of Nan, but it seems Nan has truly deleted. The only evidence I can offer is that Chloe followed her using her Dissociadid account right after the child porn came to light. Alex made a post about it and was very excited. Idk what kind of people Chloe was following back then, if some nobody who gets hardly any likes on their posts would be someone she would follow without having some irl knowledge about them (like if they were her beloved’s close friend)
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the posts before this one all have between 0 and 4 likes unless they reference Riven or Nin

ETA: ok I just finished going through her whole Instagram. Her name is indeed Alex Garcia and her tiktok handle is agarcia839. She only started talking about DID and referring to herself as we/us when Trish Paytas made a video. Ever since then she hasn’t shut up about being a system.
Here’s some more great content of hers.
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the video is of her humping the couch and spanking herself, watch at your own risk
 
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So apparently Alex and Nan are dating and Nan is still having frequent trips to inpatient. (Side note: I wonder if some of the stuff Chloe said about inpatient is stuff she heard about from Nan?)

Nan, you sure moved on from Chloe fast. Is this a rebound or were you guys not actually in love?

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girl, we don’t want to doxx yr weird sex pet friends, don’t worry, we just want to point and laugh at you #cyberbullying #anonymoustrollers #kiwifarms #probably #dissociativeidentitydisorder #fuckingpissed
 
So apparently Alex and Nan are dating and Nan is still having frequent trips to inpatient. (Side note: I wonder if some of the stuff Chloe said about inpatient is stuff she heard about from Nan?)

Nan, you sure moved on from Chloe fast. Is this a rebound or were you guys not actually in love?

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girl, we don’t want to doxx yr weird sex pet friends, don’t worry, we just want to point and laugh at you #cyberbullying #anonymoustrollers #kiwifarms #probably #dissociativeidentitydisorder #fuckingpissed
I don't think she's talking about the real Nan. In the 2nd pic she says "fuck any of you who've had the nerve to talk to my girlfriend and host like this." To me that sounds like her girlfriend is her host, which means Nan is her own alter. She hasn't clarified because either she wants clout or she's actually delusional enough to think alter Nan counts as real Nan.
 
I don't think she's talking about the real Nan. In the 2nd pic she says "fuck any of you who've had the nerve to talk to my girlfriend and host like this." To me that sounds like her girlfriend is her host, which means Nan is her own alter. She hasn't clarified because either she wants clout or she's actually delusional enough to think alter Nan counts as real Nan.
Alex, we need you to add some commas when you write. Is it girlfriend and host or girlfriend, and host? I figured the host she was referring to was Alex because I made fun of how cringe she is. She doesn’t often post as Riven, I’ve shown you all of the posts where she’s pretended to be Chloe or Nan besides the 40 minute video that is missing sound.
 
So apparently Alex and Nan are dating and Nan is still having frequent trips to inpatient. (Side note: I wonder if some of the stuff Chloe said about inpatient is stuff she heard about from Nan?)

Nan, you sure moved on from Chloe fast. Is this a rebound or were you guys not actually in love?

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girl, we don’t want to doxx yr weird sex pet friends, don’t worry, we just want to point and laugh at you #cyberbullying #anonymoustrollers #kiwifarms #probably #dissociativeidentitydisorder #fuckingpissed
wait, how the hell did she find out she was mentioned in 1 little post on a fairly inactive KF thread so quickly? she must check the thread autistically, no?

& although, per my previous post and edit, the way she talks is confusing and sometimes seems contradictory.... if I had to put money down, at this point I'd guess she has never met Nan or Nin in her life. pics or it didn't happen 😘
 
This girl is obviously talking about dating the Nan in her head. Nan is a gender special snowflake who goes by they/them pronouns. This person keeps referring to Nan as her girlfriend, which would be correct of course, but Nan doesn't go by that and her fees would probably be hurt. This person never met Nan and its weird and creepy she is copying her and Chloe. I don't know how old this person is but maybe they are kind of young, or just unstable.
 
Let's steer the conversation away from the obvious (albeit irrelevant) attention seeker back to one who's name is actually in the thread title: Chloe has been getting neck deep in her own twisted lies and misinformation as she tries to battle people who (allegedly) actually have qualifications over the prevalence rates of DID.
This refers to the following instagram infographic.
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The fallout (screen captures from r/DissociaDID):
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"Our comments policy is very clear and also fair". Ironic, considering Chloe reveals that she didn't even write her company's TOS, to the surprise of zero people.
Clearly, the prospect of being wrong and the realisation that her empire is slowly crumbling under the defiance of her increasingly disloyal fans is making Chlo-bo a little angry. One of the people who recently posted a critical comment claimed to have been blocked by her, but as soon as screen caps began to circulate, Chloe unblocked and replied to her.


In another reply Chloe suggests the rate may be as high as 12% of the entire world population (Screen capture from r/DissociaDID).
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However, the prevalence of just having any mental illness at all is less than 12%, and it's likely that the number she's referring to actually is the percentage of a very selective sample of psychiatric patients, not people in general. It's also likely that it's the prevalence of dissociative disorders, which may include derealisation/depersonalisation and variations of PTSD -- not just DID. However, if 12% is an accurate number, it can be safely assumed that several of we Kiwi speds are 'systems', and thus our opinions on Chloe hold more water, right? The trauma of being called an internet troll is splitting off another alter as I -- erm, I mean "we" -- speak.


After fighting tooth and nail that she's right and everyone else is wrong, clearly incensed by the fact that others can be more educated than she is, she adds the following edit to her OP. Incidentally, not one of the redditors, nor I, could find a source for the ISSTD's claim that 1.5% of the population have DID, aligning well with its already sketchy reputation.
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EDIT - Forgot this one!: Chloe also mistakenly claims that MPD was reconceptualised as DID in the DSM-V, while it was actually the DSM-IV. Aside from the obvious question of why she keeps referring to the DSM despite the fact that the International classification of diseases (ICD) 10 is the standard in pretty much every country besides the US., if she had just put the effort required for a google search, she would have found the correct information. She has such arrogance that she believes the distorted facts that she pulls out of her ass are correct, claiming a source for information that never existed in the first place.
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Not the armpits god
Another keen-eyed reddit-goer spotted the fact that the body hair in that filtered photo of "Kyle" is actually photoshopped on.
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I don't know how anyone would think this looks like actual hair. It looks like her armpit is caked in dirt, and exactly like one of the pre-set acrylic brush tools on GIMP or Photoshop. Anything to satiate her teen audience as they salivate for more 'Kyle' content. For all her desire to be an 'educator', it is pretty hilarious that she clearly wants to invoke a parasocial relationship between her fans and one of her characters.
 
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Another keen-eyed reddit-goer spotted the fact that the body hair in that filtered photo of "Kyle" is actually photoshopped on.
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I don't know how anyone would think this looks like actual hair. It looks like her armpit is caked in dirt, and exactly like one of the pre-set acrylic brush tools on GIMP or Photoshop. Anything to satiate her teen audience as they salivate for more 'Kyle' content. For all her desire to be an 'educator', it is pretty hilarious that she clearly wants to invoke a parasocial relationship between her fans and one of her characters.
She is just trying to score points with those armpit hair fetishists feminists.


The way she is talking sounds more and more like those motivational speakers who always come up with empty clichés.
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The Entropy System doesn't want to be in the same street with her.
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Does anybody have idea what does it mean?
I mean , "We're currently studying to become a counselor" ???
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She's definitely learning from some shady place. If she was back in uni she'd just say because then she'd get free excuses and pitty points when she does something wrong or gets called out for spreading false information.
You don’t have to go to uni to become a counsellor but there is a course you need to do that takes several years. I actually know two people who were doing one (in the U.K.) and it’s been totally postponed because of the pandemic. You need a certain amount of hours experience (free) counselling before you can qualify and that’s impossible during a national lockdown. However I think anyone can call themselves a counsellor, just like you can be a spirit guide or whatever lol, they just won’t be recognised by the national regulatory body for therapists.
 
That ‘professional’ who claimed to recognize a system based on the person having conversations in their head immediately gives me red flags. If you look at many cases of iatrogenic DID, it starts with a patient just saying ‘oh sometimes I act out scenes in my head’ or ‘I talk out loud to myself’ or ‘I feel like I’m on autopilot sometimes’ and the clinician goes ‘that sounds like MPD!’. A lot of these clinicians had recently attended MPD/SRA conferences or expressed previous interest in the topic. Of course they’re looking for MPD. The aforementioned symptoms are usually just regular, everyday functions. The brain processing information through inner dialogue is normal. Speaking aloud to yourself is normal. Feeling on autopilot is (usually) normal. I fear for her patients.

I don’t know if Chloe’s in any official course. It sounds like something she’d do (and by something I mean watch a few online DID/counseling lectures on YT and call herself ready). She could just be referring to her future plans and whatnot, but regardless, I doubt she’ll actually stick this out. People like her rarely have the drive to pursue something once their interest fades. Once her audience really dwindles, she’ll move on to greener pastures. Becoming a counselor for Dissociative Disorders is very difficult, mostly because any accrediting body worth a damn avoids many of quacks who tout DID experience. Finding good places to get experience is hard, even harder right now because of Covid. Most inpatient wards, where we see more cases of this than in outpatient, aren’t accepting interns or students at this time. Outpatient facilities are busting at the seams. Finding placements for practicums or experience is very difficult right now. Her ‘graduation’ is years away, she won’t stick it out.

Ever notice how munchies aren’t really good at anything? They’re mediocre at best. Chloe’s shitty art, makeup, research... She claims to be passionate but it’s easy to see she probably rarely picks it up unless she can get attention out of it.

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