Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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I've been wondering lately how actually batshit it would be to straight-up move to Florida because of this. I don't like heat and I don't like humidity, so I would never have considered it before, but we're a year into this shit with no end in sight. I've become pretty blackpilled about this ever ending but I almost feel like it has to end sometime and I'd feel pretty retarded if everything opened up a month after I moved my entire life to the swamp ass capital of the world.

Although I guess that economic devastation ain't going away fast, either.
Florida is a great place to live, in all honesty. Consistent temperature and weather, lots of good food, a variety of entertainment locales from nature reserves to theme parks to beaches to music venues to casinos, cities, suburbs, and rural areas within a couple hours drive of each other in more distinct regions than I can count across the state, low taxes, astounding diversity (ethnic, religious, etc.), a culture where everybody kind of does their own thing (so none of that Yankee "it takes a community to shame you into wearing your virus muzzle" bs), attractive people, lots of sun, tons of unique wildlife (some of which can kill you so you can brag about casually living around alligators to people living in less enlightened parts of the country), a not crazy state government (though there's lots of local corruption), a mix of both northerners and southerners (half my neighbourhood growing up was made up of New York Jews who came down in the past 50 years but across from my middle school was a house with a confederate flag, for instance), lots of interesting history (first North American settlement was at St Augustine, fuck Jamestown), etc.

There really isn't any place like it. If I didn't like dryer environments then I would never consider leaving. Plus you can't get good Key Limes anywhere but here, and I'm a sucker for Key Lime pies.
 
People are indeed getting skeptical.
A number have seen this scamdemic as such from the start.

Back when coronapanic began, I had a thought before I heard of the lab shenanigans: "What if this disease is an engineered bioweapon that has the main purpose of creating panic?" - and this was before muzzle mandates set in.
 
This is the poster for the #IoApro (#IOpen) movement. From tomorrow 50,000 Italian restaurants will ignore government decrees & open their businesses again til late.
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I just want the mandates to go away.
Like I mentioned earlier, at a 7-11 I saw a whole section of muzzles. One was a "luxury face mask" with a picture of a "Chad" in a business suit wearing one. They really are conditioning people to accept "face masks" as much as clothing.

I hate seeing everyone wear the stupid things, and I don't think I'll ever get used to it. Like I said, it reminds me of Islam where women are pushed to submit and cover up the their faces in public. Now all kinds of people are being pushed to submit (to government and corporations) and cover their faces in public.

I hope the scamdemic "New Normal" can end.
 
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I'm actually surprised at how few out of state license plates I saw this year. you would think they'd be coming down in droves since we're open
I spent a lot of time around Vilano Beach/St Augustine in the first half of last year and noticed that most of the out of state plates were from GA, SC, and AL. It seems like people weren't making long hauls. The beaches were packed and I wouldn't have known that there was a pandemic happening if the news wasn't blasting fear about it continuously.

On the other side of the coin, the time I spent on Hilton Head, SC was the opposite. People were acting like the sky was falling and there were digital road signs reminding people to wear a mask. All of the locals I spoke to were scared shitless.
 
I got too marks in Biology at school (only high school but still LOL). I swear it doesn't make sense that you can catch the exact same thing twice?

Yeah if there's a large mutation like what happens to Flu... But there isn't rn?

Otherwise it literally shouldn't be possible? Surely? I don't understand this.
What I remember reading was that the way C19 acts it doesn't leave many long lasting antibodies around to be immune with, unlike some viruses which provide long lasting immunity assuming you survive them. I'm grasping for the right terms and don't know them because I'm not someone who studies this shit, but my impression was that it was of a type of virus that typically does this and that's the reason reinfection is possible and likely.

Someone correct me if I've got that wrong on this but between the walls of text drain todger cited some time ago and people I trust to know what they are talking about (at least when it comes to biology) that's the understanding I gleaned.

The irony for the branch covidians is of course that the "reinfection" part of the narrative being convincing to me also convinces me that the vaccine is nothing but a symbol in practice, but that's the issue with large, unwieldy, double-down-y narratives: severe internal contradictions.
 
What I remember reading was that the way C19 acts it doesn't leave many long lasting antibodies around to be immune with, unlike some viruses which provide long lasting immunity assuming you survive them. I'm grasping for the right terms and don't know them because I'm not someone who studies this shit, but my impression was that it was of a type of virus that typically does this and that's the reason reinfection is possible and likely.

Someone correct me if I've got that wrong on this but between the walls of text drain todger cited some time ago and people I trust to know what they are talking about (at least when it comes to biology) that's the understanding I gleaned.
We know this isn't true because there's so few verified reports of reinfections it might as well be statistical noise. If it can happen, then it's extremely rare. I'd have to browse through the mountain of research myself but the reports of reinfections are mostly from early on.

It does seem likely that if you've contracted any other coronavirus (i.e. that was the cause of the cold you had) you have some level of partial immunity (but can still get sick and spread it since those are different viruses).
 
I'm beginning to wonder if the mask mandates are a bigger issue than just inconvenience. They slightly raise the CO2 levels of the air you breathe, apparently. And raised CO2 levels apparently trigger some primal reactions of fear of asphyxiation. Combined with them being a constant reminder that there's some invisible killer out there, this sounds like a nice recipe for instilling a seriously unhealthy baseline level of fear in people. Maybe that's why even normies are more and more acting like troons and commies who are in a constant state of panic to begin with. A year of terror propaganda mixed with a reminder of said terror propaganda plus a very real physiologically induced low level fear? No wonder people are going crazy.
Depends, of course, on the actual CO2 levels caused by masks, but since masks are definitely not great for when you're doing sports or something, I'd imagine that it's probably noticable.
 
I got too marks in Biology at school (only high school but still LOL). I swear it doesn't make sense that you can catch the exact same thing twice?

Yeah if there's a large mutation like what happens to Flu... But there isn't rn?

Otherwise it literally shouldn't be possible? Surely? I don't understand this.
New York Magazine did a pretty extensive report about how COVID 19 could have been made in a lab.

Personal theory is that we have two viruses running around. The natural virus which the bulk of humanity has been exposed to and then the lab grown COVID 19.
I'm beginning to wonder if the mask mandates are a bigger issue than just inconvenience. They slightly raise the CO2 levels of the air you breathe, apparently. And raised CO2 levels apparently trigger some primal reactions of fear of asphyxiation. Combined with them being a constant reminder that there's some invisible killer out there, this sounds like a nice recipe for instilling a seriously unhealthy baseline level of fear in people. Maybe that's why even normies are more and more acting like troons and commies who are in a constant state of panic to begin with. A year of terror propaganda mixed with a reminder of said terror propaganda plus a very real physiologically induced low level fear? No wonder people are going crazy.
Depends, of course, on the actual CO2 levels caused by masks, but since masks are definitely not great for when you're doing sports or something, I'd imagine that it's probably noticable.
I've been thinking about fifth generation information warfare and how we've probably been at war for a while. A pandemic would simply an escalation of it.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if the mask mandates are a bigger issue than just inconvenience. They slightly raise the CO2 levels of the air you breathe, apparently. And raised CO2 levels apparently trigger some primal reactions of fear of asphyxiation. Combined with them being a constant reminder that there's some invisible killer out there, this sounds like a nice recipe for instilling a seriously unhealthy baseline level of fear in people. Maybe that's why even normies are more and more acting like troons and commies who are in a constant state of panic to begin with. A year of terror propaganda mixed with a reminder of said terror propaganda plus a very real physiologically induced low level fear? No wonder people are going crazy.
Depends, of course, on the actual CO2 levels caused by masks, but since masks are definitely not great for when you're doing sports or something, I'd imagine that it's probably noticable.
I'm glad you're pointing out that it's more than "just a piece of cloth." On top of those other things, masks also cut out nonverbal communication almost entirely. Did you see somebody you haven't seen in a while? They can't see that subtle smile of seeing a friend. Did you receive some disappointing news? You can purse your lips and frown, but nobody will notice that anymore. Nonverbal communication is very important to us and is part of being human, but cutting that out pushes people apart.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if the mask mandates are a bigger issue than just inconvenience. They slightly raise the CO2 levels of the air you breathe, apparently. And raised CO2 levels apparently trigger some primal reactions of fear of asphyxiation. Combined with them being a constant reminder that there's some invisible killer out there, this sounds like a nice recipe for instilling a seriously unhealthy baseline level of fear in people. Maybe that's why even normies are more and more acting like troons and commies who are in a constant state of panic to begin with. A year of terror propaganda mixed with a reminder of said terror propaganda plus a very real physiologically induced low level fear? No wonder people are going crazy.
Depends, of course, on the actual CO2 levels caused by masks, but since masks are definitely not great for when you're doing sports or something, I'd imagine that it's probably noticable.
Raising the level of CO2 in your blood causes the smooth muscle of your vascular system to relax, which increases blood flow, and subsequently elevates your heart rate to maintain blood pressure. This is the body trying to expel excess CO2 and draw in more oxygen. The old trick of treating hyperventilation, by breathing into a paper bag, exploits this.

In normal circumstances, excess CO2 isn't directly a problem. As long as there's also enough oxygen in the air you're breathing, you can function normally up to about 4000 parts per million of CO2 (I think. The USN allows up to 3000 ppm in submarines, but they can compensate with a slightly raised oxygen level as well). The problem comes if CO2 is displacing oxygen, which tends to happen in enclosed, poorly ventilated spaces, like cars or modern flats.

What I suspect is the real issue is this: humans also produce carbon monoxide. Not much, but enough to be detectable when you exhale. It seems reasonable to expect that wearing a mask would increase the partial pressure of CO in your lungs, which would in turn reduce the body's ability to expel it. CO preferentially binds to haemoglobin over oxygen, a state that can't be detected by pulse oximeters, which measure the colour of your blood to detect oxygenation. Someone with high CO saturation in their blood, and consequently low O2 saturation, would register as being well-oxygenated even if they were hypoxic. The only way to test for high blood CO is to take a blood sample and do a blood gas test, or to measure the gases in your breath as you exhale.

Signs of low-level CO poisoning can include drowsiness, memory problems, confusion, and impaired executive function. In other words, it turns you into a confused, irritable retard with terrible impulse control.

None of the literature I've found seems to address this (google is useless and keeps redirecting the search to "debunking" articles about masks and CO2), so I can only call it a hypothesis at the moment, but it feels reasonable.
 
I would love an entire thread dedicated to reddit doomerposting and hypochondriacism. I could fill it with examples already. Heres a new one:

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Remember when someone gets mad at you for not following their made up rules, this is who you're speaking to. Found on a thread where OP was looking for advice on how to get rid of a roommate (who works in a hospital no less) because he *gasp* had his girlfriend over. And *sounds of shock and awe* crossed state lines to see friends.

Seriously though, imagine living like this for the last year.

ARPAnet and its' consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
 
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President-elect Joe Biden's COVID plan calls for 100M shots in first 100 days​

President-elect Joe Biden wants Americans to get 100 million COVID-19 vaccine shots during the first 100 days of his administration, a lofty goal to reverse a slow start to the nation's vaccine rollout.

Biden offered few details on how his administration would achieve the ambitious timeline during a Thursday night speech on his proposed $1.9 trillion economic recovery package. He plans to share more details Friday on his vaccine plan.

"This will be one of the most challenging operational efforts we’ve ever undertaken as a nation," Biden said. "We’ll have to move heaven and earth to get more people vaccinated, to create more places for them to get vaccinated, to mobilize more medical teams to get shots in peoples’ arms."
Biden proposes $20 billion for a national vaccination program with states, local government and tribes and will include community vaccination centers and mobile vaccination units to reach remote areas.

– Ken Alltucker

 
That sounds... incredibly useful to them.
The elite want this world to be a prison hive [1] of cyebernetic [2] bugmen they have absolute power over. This scamdemic is a very useful tool to push the world towards that evil goal. I hope they can fall from power someday, but that may never happen, barring some kind of cataclysmic world-ending event. [3]

Cyberpunk dystopia indeed.

[1] Ever notice how veering from The Narrative® gets you labeled an "extremist" or a "conspiracy theorist"?

[2] "Cybernetic" doesn't have to mean "being robot" - the word originally meant the "theory or study of communication and control" - like how many are led by "influencers" and the media via a 24-7 connection with smartphones.

[3] Look at what happened the last time people attempted to overthrow the elite: the Occupy movement. Elite derailed the movement by planting identity politics.
 

I'm sorry, but "slow start" compared to fucking what exactly? Even in terms of vaccinations per 100 people, America blasts past almost everyone else except for Israel, who've done an exceptionally good job, to say nothing of the fact that in absolute numbers America completely dominates EU and Asia (ignoring China which has been force injecting everyone with bat piss for months). Stupid fucking twats.
 
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